Mando Muniz Documentary - 'El Hombre' of the 1970s Welterweights

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  • @markriley5863
    @markriley5863 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What a nice and decent man. I didn't know anything about him before this but I am now full of admiration for him. Thanks Rich, you are a true historian.

  • @l.w.8470
    @l.w.8470 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It's a testament to Armando Muniz's fame and greatness that he is better remembered than many of the men proclaimed champion in the era of three men being called a world champion.

  • @gordonluis2039
    @gordonluis2039 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Of all the extraordinary documentaries done by Rich, this might be his best production. Armando Muniz was a class act who never quite reached the pinnacle of his chosen profession. In the final analysis However,Armando is a champion of champions who took a backseat to no one who laced up a pair of boxing gloves.

  • @bennylevine387
    @bennylevine387 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That's great to bring some shine to a bit of a forgotten warrior. What a hard-luck career, getting seemingly screwed against Napoles and falling apart late against Palomino when holding a lead. A decade or so later, he almost assuredly would have snagged a belt when there were more available. I always thought he was just a typical sort of fighter who came up the hard way. I didn't realize he was an Olympian and a college grad. I also didn't know he beat top-rated contenders like Gray and Lewis. Quite a resume.

    • @t9190kp
      @t9190kp ปีที่แล้ว

      One of quite a few fighters from the pre 10 belts in 25 divisions era that had multiple title shots and couldn't secure a strap for different reasons.

    • @richardweiler6931
      @richardweiler6931 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@t9190kpPalomino was just a little better. Muñiz almost caught Napoles at the end of his career, but was jobbed out of the title. In the rematch, a few months later, the aging Napoles trained his rear end off, and won a comfortable decision.

  • @Sindrones
    @Sindrones ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He was my high school Spanish teacher In 2006 . He was a great teacher 👍🏾

    • @therifleman6962
      @therifleman6962 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was mine in 1989!!

  • @nyquil762
    @nyquil762 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rich, all I can say is wow. You always make my day. Thank you sir.

  • @karsu
    @karsu ปีที่แล้ว +16

    He was my late godfather and best friend’s favorite fighter. Along with Danny Little Red Lopez and Pipino Cuevas.
    A whiteboy who was born in the Midwest and raised in California, who loved Mexican warrior fighters.
    Ah! He would always remark “the good ‘ol LA/Inglewood Coliseum days!”.
    He had, essentially his 4th childhood in the last years of his life when we saw a Prime Pac run roughshod thru Cotto, Margacheato, and Clottey.
    Thanks Rich. I’m pretty well versed in boxing and know of all the fighters you showcased in your channel, having done some of my growing up in the ring. I was a regular in the Wild Card Gym for years and was trained by Ruben Solorio (who fought his fellow stablemate Lupe Pintor twice). Picked some tips and tricks from Kevin Morgan, Bird, and several other old timers.
    You do well with this channel man. It’s very much needed. To get the names and memories of these gladiators their proper due and carry their legacy for a new generation of young in boxing heads.
    Much love sir!
    @Rich the fight historian +Rich the fight historian. The GOAT of social media boxing history tube along with The Modern Martial Artist.

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks so much, karasu. The Wildcard Gym has definitely been the hub for many years now...kudos to you for getting your ring education there.

    • @karsu
      @karsu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RichtheFightHistorian your amazing sir. The sheer volume of clips you accumulated over the decades. Also that you’ve had this account since 2006, and became a true established channel and posting content just these last few years. It’s inspirational.

  • @MrT-ev4dq
    @MrT-ev4dq ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really appreciate this Rich. Great to see a warrior again. We say " he's nails ".
    Cheers 🍻

  • @pam-gw6uk
    @pam-gw6uk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What a credit to the sport, this man was.

  • @Gregsmith1
    @Gregsmith1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent!
    Muniz, Palomino, and Lewis exemplified class in that era. I was also a Ranzany fan, who was from NorCal, and later worked at Folsom and tried to run a boxing program there.
    Would love to see a documentary on George "Scrap Iron" Johnson, the first fighter I became aware of as a child.

  • @christopherbellore3511
    @christopherbellore3511 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great one, Rich.
    Thank you.
    Never quit.
    Shift, maybe, but don't quit.
    Today, Fighting the good fight of faith, I've switched from a carnal fighter to a spiritual fighter; that's the shift, the switch. In life, there are always challenges to combat, battles to win.
    But win or lose, never quit.
    There's always another challenge, another battle right around the corner.
    Muniz was, and is a perfect example of a self-sacrificing, charitable soul who lives to do his best, and to serve others.
    We all need this mindset in order to make this life, and the world around us, better.
    ✝🛐🕊⚓🔨📖🗡✝🥊🙏

  • @katherinemuniz7266
    @katherinemuniz7266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Documentary....Thanks Rich... We are so proud of my Dad!

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow, good to hear from you Katherine. Your father is a great man.

  • @andrewjewell3142
    @andrewjewell3142 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glad life worked out well for him

  • @martinlopez4540
    @martinlopez4540 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thats a true warrior

  • @brucemedley635
    @brucemedley635 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great documentary rich mando muniz was one tough hombre!!!!!

  • @staceyskinner666
    @staceyskinner666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video..what an articulate decent human being .

  • @juanrodriguez6707
    @juanrodriguez6707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your boxing documentaries! Keep them coming.. thank you

  • @rory693
    @rory693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Rich.
    Glad it’s turned out well for him. An intelligent guy and good fighter. A really high level of competition.

  • @joeylamuel5828
    @joeylamuel5828 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These get better all the time. Again, thanks.

  • @dalebecause2467
    @dalebecause2467 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, that Muniz-Alvarado fight was wild....

  • @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd
    @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Terrific Rich. Really terrific story of a good fighter and good man. Your videos of fights in the Olympic Auditorium bring me back to my youth in California.
    By the way for younger fans. Mando lost twice to Eddie Perkins in the twilight of Eddie’s career yet Mando got 4 title shots. Eddie a former Jr WW champion got zero WW title shots because no one wanted to fight him. I saw him in Chicago beat undefeated Clyde Gray. Clyde never laid a glove on Eddie. Thankfully a few years before Eddie died the blind mice at the International Boxing Hall of Fame inducted him. It was long overdue.

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, James. I wish I had more film on Perkins, his name is popping up quite a bit in my research.

    • @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd
      @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RichtheFightHistorian there are few films of Eddie. He fought all over the world almost always giving up the home advantage. I saw one film of him on TH-cam 8 or 9 years ago from early in his career. He had not yet developed his hit and not be hit style and he lost a decision. It was from about 1960. He trained at Johnny Coulons Gym on the south side of Chicago. All the greats trained there when they were in town. I still have a pair of 16oz sparing gloves I bought from Johnny. .
      Eddie was a really nice guy. In Chicago parlance Eddie once said about why he was not popular in Chicago, “ the fans want an Ernie Banks and I’m a Nellie Fox. This is in reference to the home run hitter from the Cubs and Nellie Fox a single hitting second baseman from the White Sox. Most of Eddie’s losses came in the other guys back yard. His fight against undefeated Clyde Gray was a work of Art. Eddie was similar to Willie Pep. Very hard to hit even when standing in front of you
      Your videos are truly magnificent. It’s great for young fans to see the guys you present. I’ve been involved in and followed this sport for almost 65 years and love watching your stuff.

    • @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd
      @GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RichtheFightHistorian holy cow
      I have to amend my last comment. I’ve been following this sport since the early 50’s when my second favorite fighter Kid Gavilan was on early TV. Boy it makes me feel as old as I am😉😉

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GilturnerknocksoutphonyFloyd Great share, thanks James. I'll have to look more into Perkins.

  • @daviddavies2945
    @daviddavies2945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Rich for this tremendous video. Muniz was a class act as a boxer, and is one as an eloquent gentleman. A noble exponent of the noble art.

  • @barrybarnes96
    @barrybarnes96 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    A class act sportsman. Compare him to the childish no class braggarts in the sport today.

    • @technomickdocumentalist2495
      @technomickdocumentalist2495 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is why I trawl TH-cam to watch and learn about fighters from bygone years, every now and then I watch a current event fight, but it’s mainly the 70, 80 and 90’s that I enjoy 😉

  • @MrPadz305
    @MrPadz305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great doc rich 👍

  • @johnjuarez8005
    @johnjuarez8005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rich, this was perfect. Man, you keep elevating your game!!

  • @lesteryoung5510
    @lesteryoung5510 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job Rich it was nice to see a happy conclusion he was a real champion

  • @Rockstar-bq5fm
    @Rockstar-bq5fm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a feel good one despite the hard luck career. Good video Rich

  • @alangrace8628
    @alangrace8628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great fighter and even more importantly a class act as a human being...

  • @brianseneca3546
    @brianseneca3546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Armando was a little before my time watching boxing. I knew him mostly as an opponent for Ray Leonard. I knew after becoming an avid boxing fan that he received title shots but I never knew how close he actually was to becoming champion. Watching the first Napolese fight and seeing how he was robbed was really sad. I mean even Billy Freakin Backus got be a champ for a few months. Another great one Rich. Thank you

  • @Temachyotl33
    @Temachyotl33 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you Rich. Great documentary on Mando Muniz. I had always admired Mando because he gave Napoles a beating in their first fight, but never knew much about his life. Enjoyed this very much.

  • @donnellvickers6314
    @donnellvickers6314 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a MAN MUNIZ WAS. GREAT VIDEO RICH 💯

  • @dalebecause2467
    @dalebecause2467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Rich... It's a pleasure to learn a bit more about Muniz. What a class act.

  • @jessearias2863
    @jessearias2863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great job Rich , it's always nice to see good bios of great fighters that don't get all the publicity.

  • @ArturoArmenta-hq4rx
    @ArturoArmenta-hq4rx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow those were real fights no BS like today.

  • @joeygarba4172
    @joeygarba4172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Rich, Thanks.

  • @leeinoregon1326
    @leeinoregon1326 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rich, another great program!

  • @thewisetzar5363
    @thewisetzar5363 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mid 50's - 60's was a truly stacked era for the Welterweights

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the amazing video Rich

  • @danc2426
    @danc2426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Rich.. awesome documentary.. I will remind every Mexican heritage person l know, about this classy and humble man they should be very proud of !

  • @phillandon4127
    @phillandon4127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gritty fighter. Great man. Poor Mando just couldn't get a break in the big fights. He made up for it though being an exemplar for his community.

  • @paulhaig2467
    @paulhaig2467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW , What a man and what a fighter he was .

  • @2383Scorpio
    @2383Scorpio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job Rich on Mando Muniz's career. Muniz fought 7 champions in his career including 4 Hall of Famers in SRL, Griffith, Napoles and Palomino. I wonder what would happen if Muniz had fought Pipino Cuevas and Wilfred Benitez? I believe that Muniz would give them the tough fight. Anyways, keep it up.

    • @richardweiler6931
      @richardweiler6931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Muñiz and Pipino would have been a toe to toe war. Someone would have gone down. Benitez would figure to have been too slick for Muñiz.

    • @2383Scorpio
      @2383Scorpio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardweiler6931 I strongly agreed.

  • @fernandoguerrero333
    @fernandoguerrero333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rich.

  • @fredjonestowns4213
    @fredjonestowns4213 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The way he was robbed against Napoles was almost unreal. Armando won that fight.

    • @christopherbellore3511
      @christopherbellore3511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I thought Haney and Lomanchenko was bad.
      Loma needs to see that.

    • @t9190kp
      @t9190kp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read about it in the mags for yrs but to actually see the outright robbery when TH-cam came along was crazy!!

    • @richardweiler6931
      @richardweiler6931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Napoles was a Cuban. Muñiz was born in Mexico. But in his home country, everyone was against Muñiz that night.

  • @billybudd8085
    @billybudd8085 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to work at Ralphs grocery distribution center with Mando's cousin Oscar Muniz.Another talented fighter.

  • @FatherofMan25
    @FatherofMan25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great man.

  • @simba30
    @simba30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Armando is a true gentleman a class act, one of the worst decisions ever was against Napoles also one of the greatest welterweights. Mandol should have been welterweight champion. A class act

  • @richardweiler6931
    @richardweiler6931 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Too bad they didn't have CompuBox back when Muñiz battled Oscar Albarado back in 1971. They each must have thrown well over 1000 punches each. Unbelievable fight.

  • @dillavedderx5959
    @dillavedderx5959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mando was a great fighter and a better man!!!!! 👏 🫡👊💯🥊🖤🥊

  • @robash5474
    @robash5474 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my earliest boxing heroes. Muniz is another boxer who would have been capable of snagging a belt , or six, nowadays

  • @michaelh.117
    @michaelh.117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He was one of my favorite fighters. It's so weird to think that he was never champ. (But his whole life has been championship level, and in the big scheme of things, boxing was only a small part.)

  • @lymanpauli517
    @lymanpauli517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job rich

  • @reycesarcarino4653
    @reycesarcarino4653 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Brave Contender and A Good Man

  • @robash5474
    @robash5474 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fans nowadays are apt to complain about every close decision that doesn't go their man's way calling them " robbery " and " fixed. The first Napoles vs Muniz fight , now THAT'S a robbery...

  • @meanmeesterjoneszzz8161
    @meanmeesterjoneszzz8161 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad to see (after his boxing career) he didn't end up with dementia, poverty, ward of the state, welfare, homeless, in prison or his family changing his diapers in his 60's.
    Some of these documentaries are so depressing and plain sad😢.

  • @derekv6106
    @derekv6106 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He was my teacher in my high school super nice and funny he had a lot of newspaper clippings of his fights in the classroom and would tell us great stories including some from his acting days. He would always say the quote "Today is the first day of the rest of your lives". I think her name was Alice his daughter was a teacher too during that time my moms was friends with both of them she worked in the school office

  • @brucekielty8180
    @brucekielty8180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    None is better than Rich The Fight Historian.

  • @philipvjones397
    @philipvjones397 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As pretty much always, an interesting story. I sincerely hope the kid who broke his kid at school experienced repeated karma over the years. Bullies really are the lowest form of pond life.

  • @claystevenson1821
    @claystevenson1821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seem like a very nice guy.

  • @Kuwaitisnot_adeployment
    @Kuwaitisnot_adeployment ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tony "the tiger" Lopez just started a TH-cam channel called 12 rounds of adrenaline...worth a look

  • @tentringer4065
    @tentringer4065 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wise words at 20:45.

  • @shawnthaicon2586
    @shawnthaicon2586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grt grt story

  • @trollgoodman7808
    @trollgoodman7808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rich, what's the intro song? it's great 👍

  • @strangerintown3676
    @strangerintown3676 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched the Muniz -- Leonard fight on tv back in 1978, to me something didn't seem right about the fight, the stoppage was odd to say the least. Fast forward 45 years later I watched the entire fight 2 months ago, the ending still doesn't add up.

  • @brucekielty8180
    @brucekielty8180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The LA Times reported in 1989 (google it) that Vic Weiss led a double life that may have led to his murder.

  • @יותםבינג
    @יותםבינג ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wondering, what is the song from the opening?

  • @cj88macleod
    @cj88macleod ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the first fight shown right after jims quote? I immediately thought of rocky an Apollo creed 😂

  • @budwhite2109
    @budwhite2109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know the song that plays at the start?

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Run' by Fireworks Festival

    • @budwhite2109
      @budwhite2109 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@RichtheFightHistorian thanks so much and also great work

  • @t9190kp
    @t9190kp ปีที่แล้ว

    Didnt he have a younger brother that was a contender at bantam or featherweight??

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      He had a brother named Javier that fought at 140. You might be thinking of Oscar 'The Boxer' Muniz but I don't believe they are related.

  • @MichaelScott-cp1ll
    @MichaelScott-cp1ll ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the song ?

  • @shawnthaicon2586
    @shawnthaicon2586 ปีที่แล้ว

    R.i.p Claude Noel Trinidad's 1st champion

  • @t9190kp
    @t9190kp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idk who had worse luck with title shots in the 70's, Muniz or Yaqui Lopez??!! The 1st Napoles fight was a absolute travesty!!

  • @没关系l
    @没关系l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mando would have turned me brains into jamdo

  • @boxing888great5
    @boxing888great5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Len wickwar ❤

  • @gswguy4554
    @gswguy4554 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ranzany got hosed by the ref against Muniz …. Pistol Pete was winning the fight but the ref conveniently didn’t see an obvious head butt. Fight was stopped due to cuts.

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I read that Muniz wanted to give him a rematch but it never came about.

  • @donnellvickers6314
    @donnellvickers6314 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:00 to 16:20 muniz got ROBBED

  • @TrentNonpareil
    @TrentNonpareil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kobozev

  • @dalebecause2467
    @dalebecause2467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm just starting to watch this one Rich, but, once again I want to thank you for these videos. Like I have said, EVERY TIME I see a new one its the next thing I do...is watch that! I was wondering if you ever looked into Tyrone Trice from Milwaukee and if so what did you think about him? He was a guy that I thought got burned in one of his Championship fights...I forget which one it was but he only fought a few of those I believe...

    • @RichtheFightHistorian
      @RichtheFightHistorian  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Dale. I didn't have Trice on the to do list but I'll add him in. Hard hitting welter who went life and death with Simon Brown.

  • @dalebecause2467
    @dalebecause2467 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, how could he be robbed like that in the ist fight against Napoles! I have never heard of anything like that...The ref stopd the fight and just declares the winner?? WTF! Thats a wrong that should be righted to this day....

  • @dalebecause2467
    @dalebecause2467 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to do some research...That Muniz vs Napoles fight was the biggest and most blatant robbery I have ever seen BY FAR in all the years I have been involved with and been a huge fan of Boxing....How does that get overturned?? WTF....I have never seen an instance of an obviously paid-off ref for a fight. Couldn't have been any more blatant. The thing is, where were the people in charge of that fight?? It certainly was not the ref!! SMH....boy does that stink. If Napoles had ANY CLASS OR CHARACTER he would have had that decision overturned himself...what a scumbag.