Where angels fear to tread
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2018
- In this conversation about evil, John Butler treads very carefully, bearing in mind that whatever we attend to will appear to grow. Is evil a real force? Is there a devil? How do we avoid 'the bottomless pit'? How can meditation deliver us from evil?
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“A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.”
-greek proverb
wonderful proverb, but I feel John will benefit from the seeds he sows too
In other words...it’s not all about you.
Anton Zuykov im not so sure about that
@Anton Zuykov yeah, as a former 'socialist', i will take free enterprise anytime. Socialism/self-centeredness is a truly insidious evil. thanks.
Mr. Butler. I don't know how to say this any other way, but thank you. I'm just some college kid from the U.S and I've been currently going through my own battle with evil. The words you spoke has helped to break down the darkness that's been hampering my view of what is truly important. I can only thank God that your video appeared in my recommended feed. I pray that God ensures the words you speak touch the many struggling people across the globe. God bless you and merry Christmas!
And Christmas blessings to you, too, dear friend
I believe conversation with God, God cannot prove himself outside a creature and outside of the fight between Love and Non Love ,it is inevitable, nothing to be afraid here the hot and the cold ,the creation and the destruction Love cannot know himself without non Love
I like John's cardigan it really suits him.
Argyle never had it so good
The Force is strong in this one.
Just love the fact he thinks before he speaks. 99% of people fill those gaps with "uhm".
The mantra ohm. Why not
If you take a shot everytime he says the word "stilness", you will eventually experience the stillness yourself...
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Wisdom!
Lol
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Sunamer Z W
well you won't be experiencing it LOL
More like numbness lol
I have genuine love for this man, his wisdom, and his humor! And I only discovered this channel a couple weeks ago. ♡
@moonflower Same here. My son recommended this channel and it's been a wonderful experience.
(PS. I love Moon flowers too!)
I discovered this maybe 1 weak ago too and is amazing,im watching this evry night
0:09 - I was hoping to hear John saying “Wheeeeeeee!” as he went by. Maybe next time?
That would be very wholesome
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you are a genius, youtube should start paying for comments
Such a powerful attitude towards evil and SO different from so many online people, obsessing over looking for and finding evil! They look for symbols and words and anything to prove spiritual danger. These people spend so much time on posts involving secret evil groups that they SO want to exist, but they never turn to the light. Their obsession and their perceived battle has brought them into darkness. What we obsess about, we magnify. So do not fight when there is a choice, rather, avoid and ignore evil, let it starve.
You cannot fool John either with complicated questions or age-old conundrums like good and evil. He has his measured, wise and intriguingly satisfying answers. What a pleasure to be in his presence - even if it can happen only on TH-cam. God bless!
When your way of answering is completely ignoring the question, yes it's easy to give an answer :P
"old conundrums like good & evil'....? You must be young...
Or vey, very wise
@@spiritualanarchist8162 - I am very nearly 66. Not that young, I suppose ;o) you may have misinterpreted the word "old".I meant : a conundrum that has been with us for ever.
@@lehtokurppa7824 - another way of looking at it is : the framework of your question is too narrow and takes us into circular arguments . Yes -No- But-Yes-No-But etc...etc.... The answer is beyond the paradigm that you introduced with your question. Hope you see what I am pointing at?
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I’m absolutely enamored by and spiritually “in love” with John.✨
I love that cheeky wink at the end! I will go to sleep smiling now x
I love John's answers because he always gives a well thought out and honest answer...I may not understand a lot of what he speaks about but I appreciate his sincerity and kindness all the same. Thank you gentlemen 👍
Thank you! My parents and my grandparents were a mix of the American chapter of Anglicans and Roman Catholics in New England, and yet I was not baptized nor raised with religion. I was not raised atheist either. I am compelled to ponder the deeper questions of spirit and life.
John, I love your words. They are always enlightening and wonderful. And fulfilling as well. It would be a true honor and blessing if you became a spirit teacher/guide for those who choose to travel the path much like you chose, to set yourself from the world and only know what Spirit knows. A peace that passes understanding. Thank you so much 🙏
Thank you, Denise, but the real, unfailing teacher / comforter is Spirit itself - always present, here and now.
I wanted to clarify that earlier i apologize. I didn’t think about it until I had hit the post button 😂. But I understand. I’ve accustomed to the saying ‘none of self; all of Thee’ words to a hymn I love singing. I guess what I meant to speak about was the fact that Spirit does speak and not John himself. I could tell even the respect of presence when Spirit speaks through him; he allows His words first and stays quiet till he’s ready to say those words. When I watched him do that, I realized it’s an incredible amount of respect and true honor towards what is of light. I just felt, well I guess to say to John, thank you for being an Oracle not of his own but of Spirit. There’s always a bigger picture
I came here for the asmr and I stayed for philosophy
We get both :)
All of ya'll are wonderful :) Thank you & love you.
Even after Death, you shall be remembered John. I may not be christian, but I find your words calming, fascinating, enlightening and intertwined with my own spiritual belief. Thank you John for opening my eyes more to the light :)
🙏 Love, light, blessings and stillness to you all John xo
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Thank you very much for the upload. This is such a wonderful conversation . I am learning a lot from John and I wish him good healthy. He's such a blessing to mankind.
I’m so fulfilled when hearing John Butler speak, for these moments everything is still and one and okay 💕
I've always been a highly creative person since I was a child. Ranging from singing, playing piano, making music, drawing and creating 3D model for (peaceful) virtual worlds. I always listen to John's playlists in the background as I'm being creative ^.^
This guy gives me more ASMR tingles then Bob Ross does!
*than ;)
... But I agree! He's amazing. At the same time there's so much to absorb of what he says.
And they both beat the devil out.
He should do a painting video.
T K YES!!!!!!!
13:00 Anyone else thought their screen froze??
My Sunday is complete. Blessings and love. ❤️
John just put absolutely meaning into "resist not evil". I've been practicing, thinking, and teaching letting go. Now, I really do understand when he said let it flow through without attention. Attention to it really does magnify it and gravitate us their. This lecture made me want to practice more diligently with greater depth of meaning behind behind why. Thank you!
such a sweet old man, i'm sure god loves him.
This channel is a true blessig! Its basically exactly saying wht ive been thinking lately. Its almost mindblowing to hear someone say the exact things i feel inside. Thinking like this helped me during really tough situations in my life. It just feels right, from within.
wonderful surprise seeing the notification that there is a new video always makes me happy :)
Love you John. What a beautiful soul you are x
Thank you
God bless you all
Love to hear the wise old men speak. Reminds me to get up and enjoy life and work for the soul.
I find great comfort in Johns videos im advocating for mental health and for anyone who does feel isolated i would sign post them to these videos.
Thanks William - that’s a kind thing to say thank you. Phil
In the mirror, I may see the Devil, but I also see the ability to let him go. Blessings and Merry Christmas to you both.
John and Phil very many thanks for another lovely and thoughtful listen.
Yes, you convey the stillness John. I love your voice and what you say.
This is my understanding. God being Love can have no opposite. The opposite of love is fear which is merely the absence of love. It doesn’t have existence as love does. Though we experience it and all it’s evil effects in the world, it’s only a belief in our mind that gives it the appearance of reality.
These videos have helped me so much. Thank you 🙏🏻💖
Thank you John My heart blossoms by your words. To me you truly embody christianity
It's taoism too dude. And it's Buddhism. He's just speaking the spiritual truth ❤️🕊️
Sincere thanks for all of your videos. This one in particular seemed most heartfelt, John has much to teach us.
Yes, putting our feet on the ground is very important. Simple. Solves a lot of problems.
If one is able to laugh about his death like that, one can be sure he lived a wholesome and rich life
Thank you. Always a pleasure.
"The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their past deeds. Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try how hard you may. Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to stop it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is to remain silent" - Ramana Maharshi
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! They give new perspectives.
PS. Thank you so much for your guidance 🙏
I appreciate john going for this topic the way he did. Tasteful man. Used to call him a sophist at the beginning of my spiritual journey. 'If you want to see the devil, look in the mirror' well, how very true that is. How true it rings in my mind today especially.
It's always good to hear your thoughts John and in them I find a lot in common with Carl Jung's findings to do with wickedness. But I do hope we can soon move on to constructive advice on how we can embrace the goodness we can all find inside of us. And I do hope you wont be rushing of anywhere, you are much needed and loved here :)
Christmas came early this year, thanks John!
i wish this year they would replace santa with john in some malls and he could talk to children to teach them about these things.
Idk if children should be taught to be mature it should be developed
Now kids, be still..just enjoy the stillness for a moment now!😁
Thank you Jon. You've helped me understand a lot of things I didn't understand before.
You have just made our weekend, thanks.
Thank you John for your every word. I come from a different religion to yours, one which I have developed for myself over the few years I've been on this earth. I am a spiritual Satanist, or a theistic Satanist. I have been in league with the devil as I understand him for sixteen years. He has given me much power to withstand the storms in this world. I also follow Lucifer, the lightbringer. I feel that Lucifer has guided me to your channel, for he is the angel of light to me. And you are a messenger of light to me also. You talk of peace which I have been fortunate enough to witness a handful of times during my prayers to the deities I call demons I choose to venerate. This video has given me a much needed perspective on the Fallen One, the first to turn from the light. This perspective has grown my understanding of God and Satan, of Light and Dark. Thank you for enlightening me. I am still in this world, but I have also grown to understand what it means to be an immortal soul.
You are an inspiration anyone can appreciate, even someone like me who seems to be at the opposite pole in this existence we all share. Peace be with you.
Thank you. This is a true privilege.
Brilliant , draws together a lot for me . I will use this insight thanks 👍
Always great to hear the master I’m a just a pupil but with your wisdom I know we can find the solution 👌👌
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I have to re watch as I fell fast asleep! I believe I got the main point which is to practice often or fall into the bottomless pit wherein lies the evil one.
🙏 Bless you both ! Wonderful wisdom from John as always ! 💗 I loved John's wink at the end ! 💫 🙏😉🙏
Thank you!!
Please keep this up. This is like therapy for me
OK!
Love you John Butler
"Why do we so often choose darkness to light..." I ask myself the same question... Why is it that negative energy often feels more tempting, makes us feel more powerful than that of light? Light always seems like such a struggle. We fight to be good yet feel as though we're not actually accomplishing anything and we're always knocked back. The evil survive yet the good die. Darkness gives us a feeling of control and maybe that's what it is. To surrender to light, to that struggle, is to relinquish that control.
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Works wonders when the "Old Hag" pays a visit!
Very Interesting to learn such wisdom
Thank you for the theodicy series. Not an easy topic. I can't say I'm completely fulfilled by the answers John gives, but maybe the answer is in the seeking...
I like john so much. thanks for the channel.
Thank you jhon
John rides a bicycle better than me and I'm 18.
He had a lot of time to practice
If he’s older then yes he’s generally going to be more skilled than a younger person
You will be there sooner than you think.
Lmao! 😂
Thank you.
I wanna take this man Wii Bowling.
Why?do think you will beat him?whatever makes you feel good.pos
@@chadmichael1916 You are an angry angry man
1st. I always enjoy listening to john.
John's example of looking toward light vs dark is the idea of positive vs negative thinking. We can perceive things positively (in the light) or negatively (in darkness). The devil that we see in the mirror, the devil inside of us, is the temptation to choose the easy path of darkness. It's more difficult to resist those temptations and to think positively, but the reward of pure thought and self respect are worth it.
Whether you follow the religious aspect or not, it's a good lesson to be learned, and is essential to finding satisfaction in everyday life. After all, that is what life is; a collection of experiences put back to back. John's saying of "Keep your feet on the ground" pushes you towards mastering your mind by being present.
I had a dream about a week ago that ended with a horrible, scary voice that said "God doesnt love you " . It rocked me and Ive been wondering what and why I heard that
If our job is to wake up whistle we are here, what are we preparing/being tested for? Once awoke are you then chosen to stand with someone or something greater than life as we know it?
I have very personal reasons for these questions as a person that's been unwillingly meditating for 40+years.
How do we know if Mr.Butler even gets to read these? I so wish I could spend 10 mins with this wise man.😔
Tyger tyger burning bright
In the forests of the night;
What IMMORTAL hand or eye
Could frame the fearful symmetry...
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the lamb make thee?
William Blake
Should we assume that in Blake's time, "eye" and "symmetry" rhymed? Always wondered.... There's many places in Shakespeare where this is obviously the case.
Red John
Very interesting
This has sent my head so west
I wish he was my grandpa... 🤗
I mean... It's utter twaddle... But delivered by a thoughtful, amazing human being. Transfixing...
How you know it's twaddle
This dude just repeated what Julius Caesar said like 3000 years ago.
Just cause you can’t see his perspective ( and that’s being nice cause I’d guess most people just can’t grasp it) doesn’t mean it’s twaddle. Try what he suggest for a month and see.
I think in the preface to that very book, "The Screwtape Letters", C.S. Lewis says that there are two errors one can make as regards devils: 1) To ignore their existence, and 2) To acknowledge their existence, but take a rather too enthusiastic interest in them. It seems to me that John here treads the line between these two errors admirably, without falling into either.
In what distant deeps OR skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
What the hammer what the chain
In what furnace was thy Brain?
The Tyger by William Blake
Nardus is the bush that will give the oil. The oil that Jesus had on his feet. It also can be an indication of the cerebral spinal fluid that embalms the pineal gland. This activates everytime you fall asleep or meditate. In other words, you are meditating every night. Jesus said that when the two eyes become one hence the activation of the gland, the body will be full of light.
Having said that, I do believe because of my own personal experiences that God speaks to you, throught your dreams once or twice in your life. Just to give your stay a purpose a mission if you will. It is up to you to follow that path or not, as John states to look at the light or turn away from it.
Thank You John.
I feel the light within you.
May our sins be forgiven and God Bless.
People trying to see patterns in things is really a fascinating art of human psychology. It can also be very dangerous.
@@Valkonnen seeing patterns is very much incorporated in the intelligent design.
@@Valkonnen 😋
bionic505 “Son, I am only going to tell you this once. If you want to keep working here, stay off the drugs.”
I'm going to visit mr butler as soon as I'm able
I have the greatest respect for you, Mr Butler, and have just ordered your book in hopes of growing in understanding. However, and I say this with respect and not to be critical, but you tell us that if we turn back to the light, the darkness fades away, as when we awaken from a nightmare. Basically, that it can only exist if we allow it to.
But that darkness is very real when you think of things like the 9/11 terrorists, or people who go into schools and shoot innocent children. Not thinking about evil doesn’t stop people from committing more evil.
I would very much like to hear your views on what you think we should be doing with regards to the very real darkness that exists in our world. Those who lose loved ones to evil can’t just pretend it didn’t happen, even if they are leaning on Jesus to stay strong. What would you be telling them? I ask this with all sincerity and not to be picking apart your teachings. God bless.
You ask the very difficult and pertinent questions Wendy, the answers are out there, keep an open mind and seek the truth. Namaste.
Robert Adair it’s what I’m doing. I believe that if we look for the truth, we will find it. We just need to keep seeking.
Wendy St.Germain these sad events imo were done by souls that werent ready, and didnt open their true (soul) eyes. What u can do is control ur own universe, to be a better being. If you truly believe in it, this positivity will spread, and change the souls around you. On the long run, this could improve humanity. Coz it seems like this earth is a training ground, or a school if u will. Not every pupil will get the lesson, or get straigh A’s. Some pupils still need to develop and study. And the mistake and bad actions of these individuals, can be a great lesson for good souls that want to to find the correct eternal answer.
For some Wendy, all the answers to your questions are within, the tangled exterior world impossible to unravel without creating more tangle, life has taught them within is the answer.
Turning toward the light isnt ceasing to acknowledge the existence of darkness. This is evident by the presence of shadow.
I swear down john is god he is so wise this is what god whould look like in human form is voice is so soothing and calming
He answers the devil question at 15:35
The irony is that most what John tells about Evil is 'accepted theology' But. Churches don't go there .They keep teling the same simplified versions , thus loosing more & more people.
@Ron nono wow!! You sure missed what John was saying......
th-cam.com/video/uy3LpPVReoY-/w-d-xo.html Just to add in to this huge subject. May be of interest.
Ron nono Those are the actions of lost souls in these “religions”. Same could be said of old christianity, forcing it with violence and death (see how old Spain used to behave and not only them). All religions, if u read the true word, and dont focus on the human aspect of them, talk about the exact same thing.
@Ron nono Exactly, because Christianity has been so gentle and benevolent throughout its history.
Bigoted pinhead.
@Ron nono better' how ? Is an empty church better then a full synagoge ? you don't make any sense,
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee." - Friedrich Nietzsche.
I love these videos...but I can't help but wonder... what the hell is going on in that church?! In every video so far it sounds like it's under construction. Now, mind you I haven't been in a church since I was very young, but I remember it being very quiet and calming.
The Mighty Mutt my guess is that the loud bangs in most of john’s videos that were recorded at the church, are from the big doors opening and closing when people enter and leave. the latches.
The Mighty Mutt also, noise cancelling algorithms are working hard, so the contrast between the quiet ambience and the bangs is more vast than they would be without the filtering.
I watched last episode of "chapelwaite" today, and I think if they had talked to Mr. butler about the idea ,existance of the devil and darkness ,some changes in story could make it much better :)
What would be the reason one would actually want to turn away from the light? Which one is scarier?
Did he answer his question with 2 more questions? And if it's just a dream and you die in your sleep, did you awake to realty of death, or did you die in a relaxed state of being while your body suffered! These are very complex questions aren't they now!
To experience the contrast perhaps.. To peer over the chasm - to provoke what may lurk in the depths.. Like that instinct to taunt bullies at school with the reassurance safety is not far..
Kindred Spirit is foolish. Been there done that. Good way to end up climbing outta hell. And let me tell you it’s a long ass climb.
does John have audio books on audible. i would buy them.
John gets all Twigh light Zone on us.
He knows that most who watch this won't experience the stillness and won't understand it. Alone having a phone proves it. U need to fall into very deep darkness to find the answer. As much as some people, who think they are more intelligent by knowing basic science, hate on this guy.. They don't understand and make fools out of themselfs.
Michael Jiroho yet you conversely are doing the same . You are no better hypocrite.
All the love to Phil but why has he got a poncho on?
Because he is a homosexual man...In other words, a man who instead of seeking the company of ladies, would rather maintain relationships with gentlemen instead.
Project much? Accept yourself, it's OK, no need to feel shame.
@@svonkie I feel no shame that I am a homosexual, like Phil...
Cool in church?
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Did he actually say we should fear the devil? I am a bit bewildered 21:48 in to interview
Hi great video as always know it's a bit late but again great video just wondering what Phil is wearing?
That wink at the end John you cheeky... "devil". One thing and this is more a response to a feeling I had and saw in one our two comments when John was talking about modern day media (for context I'm a 23 year old filmmaker) and the evil represented their-in and I had my initial disagreements but idk it definitely works in context of the conversation. I have a lot more to say but y'all should just read David Lynch's book "Catching the Big Fish", it brooches why and how someone could illustrate the darker sides of human nature and do it from a position 100% empathy without feeding that darkness.