Old vs Old: Which of These Two Trucks Is The Bigger Turd? Hummer or Disco?
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How does this old Land Rover Disco compare to the new Discovery? Find out here: th-cam.com/video/hYDZIDk-X1s/w-d-xo.html
the new discovery is kind of ugly
i had a disco 1 , great vehicle. tough. please dont play music while talking. its really irritating. Its a car show, want to hear those engines, but cant the sound nerd ruins it.
The Fast Lane Truck ill buy a Lexus LX470'S.... but i wonder how good the x35 infinity are?
Toyota Owner seems intimidated by the Hummer. Wise cracks that dont make sense all video🤔
Disco is crap.
I always loved the discoveries, but I bought an H2. No regrets. Its a comfortable, reliable monster.
Land Rovers are definitely cars that make you fall in love with them. Despite the problems that they have. Yes repairs ain't cheap, but they make you smile. They got character, they are comfortable, good on and offroad in stock. They have lots of room for your family of gear.
Having owned a Discovery, I'm surprised anytime one just starts.
So you havent owned one?
@@4wdsome444 Yes I have. like I said. Any time it started was a surprise. Absolutely worst vehicle I've ever owned.
Probably because it wasn't taken care of properly maintenance wise.
@@craigmackintosh1604 Bough brand new. Trouble from the start. Returned under lemon law. Land Rover has a long and verifiable history of building beautiful garbage.
@Nuclear Grizzly, I'll grant you that but being a Brit who grew up relying on these vehicles for simple survival in Africa I am impartial to them to this day. I love my 2003 D2 but must admit she is heavily modified as an off-road only toy, I have my moments of exasperation but usually short lived due to my love of working and improving upon her.
A quick story. A few years ago I decided I needed a daily driver that had more room and was better on the road than my Jeep Rubicon. I wanted a tough 4wd body on frame suv. It needed to be reliable, good off road, good on road, preferably a solid axle and have more room than the Jeep. I hear about these "80 series Land Cruiser things" that are legendary. It came down to a Land Rover Discovery which I had always wanted and the Land Cruiser.
So I'm talking to my local "Land Rover Guy" and he asks me what I'm looking to do with the prospective suv.
I say, "tough, reliable, haul my stuff, take road trips, business trips, go off road. "
He says "so you want it to work all the time?"
I respond, "Yeah..."
He says, "I'd buy an 80 series Toyota Land Cruiser"
I never looked back
Lol exactly ..... Toyota for the win
So your 80 series hasn't had a single part replaced since you bought it? No swivel hub problems, no diff issues?
Well, I'm not sure what you mean by swivel hub so no it hasn't had any problems. No diff issues. Nothing done that wasn't a normal maintenance item.
@@johndean4120 Mine did 500000k on lpg and last I saw it it had been around Australia
John Dean The FJ80 is a much better choice then the Discovery, I'm a Toyota guy,that's virtually all I drive but everybody wants too much money for an 80 series now. You mind if I ask how much you paid for it? P.s. I own an 04 discovery and it's a love hate relationship🤣
Got an 03 Disco2 with some upgrades, drove it 3 times from Maryland to Utah, crossed Rockies on unpaved roads, did some deep creek crossing with it, some medium trails in Moab, so far so good. Always got me back home. Besides gas millage i love it.
this is why i love your disco videos, yes they can be a bit unreliable, but parts are plentyful and cheap they will literally go anywhere known to man and they are just awesome 4x4 to own
With the price for gas here in Germany, I'd take the Disco (as a Diesel) over the Hummer. Maintenance and repair on the Disco is cheaper than what I'd spend on gas for the Hummer.. Not to mention that I could buy 2 Discos (1 to drive and 1 for spare parts) for the price of one Hummer. Last but not least, the Disco has waaaaay more style than the H2.
Sure 💪🏼😉
FLOB32 you are going to need more than 2 of each part.
good thing u live in dutch expenssive land .
I've always found LR Discos to be beautiful but this video made me respect the H2 so much more than I used to. -Jeep WJ owner.
You guys are living the life. I am jealous! Just pulled into work.
My cousins 06 h2 has 320k miles on it....granted he replaced the transmission. But its still a beast!!!
Johnathon Castro the 6.0L engines they have are damn near bullet proof along with rest of the 3/4 ton drive train. They just get a bad rap for being big and having less than great fuel mileage. I had a 2000 Silverado 2500 with the same 6.0L engine, 4L80e transmission, 9.5in 14 bolt rear axle and 9.25in front diff and it was an awesome truck. Even with a supercharger and 37in tires it was extremely reliable for how much I beat on it. Lady ran a stop sign and totaled it for me with 215K miles on it.
Drew w
How did she total a tank?
Agent. K. Cost to fix is what totaled it, mostly body damage but broke a front ball joint and tie rod, front wheel, then broke a rear axle U bolt and put the rear tire in the bed side. Rocker panel was crunched from sliding over her hood. Truck did a 180* spin after she hit me. But kept the truck for -$625 out of my totaled payment that I rolled into a new truck down payment. So I still have the truck. Probably could get it driving again for around $1000 if I don’t mess with the body work. but I just haven’t gotten around to fixing it.
currently driving A 201k mile 3/4 ton suburban on 33s , bone stock drivetrain 6.0 with 4l80e , haven't even done the trans yet , in the last month i have done a couple hundred miles on rough off road trails (hunting season). i have a clunking noise coming from the front end but i definitely was beating the snot out of it driving way to fast down some very rocky terrain so thats more of an abuse issue over reliability. also im a die hard GM guy i have probably had 5 suburbans and 3 trucks all GM , expect the transmissions to go out anywhere between 200k and 250k miles. they are ticking time bombs after 200k. but that's pretty much the only thing that will fail you despite how well you take care of the vehicle. prepare to spend $2k for a rebuild. Which is relatively nothing when you consider it will last you another 200k miles.
do yourself a favor , have the trans rebuilt after 200k regardless of how it drives , if you do it on your own schedule it could prevent failure when you least expect it and save you on a huge towing bill. i plan on doing mine soon in my 3/4 ton. would hate for it to go out on a long road trip while towing far away from home.
Let's revisit this video after each vehicle has another 10,000 miles on them (IF both make it that long...), and total up the repair (or replacement) costs! :D
It was great watching 2 real off-roaders just blow through this trail without even a minor slip of the tire. Well done!
jedironin380 the Hummer won’t have a problem making it another 10k miles with nothing more than oil changes. Plus most repair costs on the Hummer are dirt cheap since they share a ton of parts with the popular 3/4 ton GM trucks. (Engine, transmission, transfer case, axles, front suspension,)
@@chevyon37s The parts for the D2 are equally as abundant and cheap
@@chevyon37s that was his point
Great video guys!
I own a 07 h2 (22" BF Goodrich KO's), and it's wonderful, bulletproof so far just replace brake pads, shocks, and maintenance (3years with me), even if something breaks is cheap, definitely a keeper, saving money to supercharger for years to come to not stay behind from newer Vehicles.
Jorge Luis Burgoa Cosio make sure to have your transmission built before supercharging. And watch for the oil consumption on that 6.0.
I like how happy these lucky guys are especially at the end of the video. Talk about one of the best days "in the office".
Again, great video. I'm not an off-road type person, but these videos are informal yet entertaining. Keep it up!
Their vids are good but ... as a person who gets offroad at least once per week their test trails are just bumpy dirt roads mainly .... no true mud just rock bottom water puddles and hills without steps nor true obstacles
Only thing they really test is soccer mom off camber style ascents on gold mine .... what happened to that Rocky steep trail ? It was the best offroad test they showed
I see. Still, their vids are informal. Question, what vehicle do you off road in?
@@drewhiz7334 88 Toyota dlx 4x4 d145k on frame 5k on engine new bushings and tie rods and brakes and everything else underneath ... love my truck and 5 speed
Owned an 88 yj a 74 f100 and a 85 Broncos 2 and several 90's f150's 250s and explorers up to mid 2ks
MOAR H2 VIDEOS!!!
This was an awesome video. Keep it up!
just got a 2003 Hummer sitting on 36" Toyo tires and it looks new, runs great but did have to replace the fuel pump last week. I love driving that thing as much as driving my Corvette.
I always love seeing this hummer in action!
I am shopping for a H2 now, thanks🤦♂️
I would take the hummer because of the reliability.
Yeah, h2 hummers are actually fairly reliable. They have the same 6.0 as the silverado HD.
Sitting in it is like a leather lazy boy
Sweet truck
As always, great and fun video, jaja
Love the channel. I would put hood louvers on the land rover to help out the engine to shed heat at low speed. Helped my F350 a bunch.
Love the snow wheeling!
Now a full TFL overland trip should happen.
Had my 05 h2 for 4 years now never let's me down
I like the Hummer but the Disco is better off road when to going gets tough and has better clearance, The down side to the Disco is they cost a heap to keep on the road and like jeep there are millions of off road accessories made for them, Absolutely Millions of new toys to plug in or bolt on, Great video guys thanks for posting.
I’d take the disco any day!!! I owned a 2000 disco series 2 with all the same off-road bits plus a snorkel and I could drive it on any trail in the great Smokey mountains, plus I was able to drive through 4ft deep rivers
I just love the way the Discovery looks. Mine was always blowing oil seals though. And a lot of electrical problems. And.....And....And....
I hope next will be the cliffhander 2.0. this was too easy for the trucks.
Diego in japan agreed that looked fairly easy
great show, love the old trucks
Awesome videos.
Well i bought my h2 because if the videos you guys made and i love it
Interesting thing, one of the Disco's biggest gremlins is the three amigos, caused by shuttle valve failures in the ABS modulator. The latter is manufactured by Wabco and it is the same unit you'll find in a Hummer. I had 2 disco 2's both td5's and they were the best vehicles I ever had.
Had a Disco , was okay owed for 6yrs did alot of repairs on it . got an H3 only minor problem replaced HVAC servos that's it , both fun.
Discovery 1 or 2 forever 💪🏼😉🕺🏻
Fun video to watch , can you talk Honda into providing a newer Ridgeline for the Goldmine hill test? Would love to see that, thanks in advance
Great fun video guys, they both have their charm for different reasons.
The old school trucks made some of the new stuff look pretty lame.
I bought my disco 2 for 1600$ and she's running awesomely! Haha if I want parts I just go on Craiglist or what not and find someone selling a whole disco that's not running for 700$ or so hahahaha
Hilarious
You know very well what's to have a discovery 🕺🏻😁
Honestly I think a better comparison would be the disco 2 vs the Hummer H3 alpha V8. More narrow, more leather, etc. Most of the H2 accessories are for appearance sake and have little more than looks in common with all those sexy ARB goodies.
Crossovers are the biggest turds. Square old suvs are perfect!
hummers are great. i have a H# alpha (offroad) and the unicorn 2010 H3T alpha offroad. love them
I just bought one down here in Mexico and my h3t alpha has been my favorite vehicle I ever owned
Just laughed my ass off during your descriptions in first 2 minutes! Thx boys needed that here in DC today!!!
It all depends on the owners my LR D2 almost has 200k only thing I replaced are alternator
It's not a car It's not a truck it's not just another 4x4 HUMMER Like nothing else... FOREVER IN MY HEART.
Both great fun. Just personal preference. I'd have the disco in the UK as parts are everywhere and cheap, but I wouldn't turn down a hummer either!
Having owned a succession of Discos and Range Rovers over the last 20 years I am now driving an H3, something I should have done years ago. I never, ever, started a journey without a sphincter factor, because I never knew if I was going to get there, never mind back. Now I just get into the H3 and drive. Its less refined but solid and well built, its an honest vehicle, no pretensions.
Both of these trucks reaffirm my love of land cruisers.
Here we go. You know the first Land Cruiser was called a BJ - right?
Yeah and we still love them
The Disco! We have three and love them.
I own an H2 ! I love it!
Fun video! 😂 Sometimes it’s great to get away from the serious stuff and just go scuff up some old rigs while having fun.
Coin toss on which is a bigger pile... different reasons. The Disco is “cooler”, but it’s also an incredibly unreliable heap, that I would have a hard time trusting more than a few miles from home (note for Roman: in truly wild places they have a saying, “if you want to go into the Outback, take a Land Rover... if you want to come back, take a Land Cruiser”... the Toyota is actually the more bulletproof globe trekker). The H2 is a codpiece, always was... but GM legit built it on basically 3/4-ton truck parts, jacked up and set up for off-roading. If it didn’t have such an image problem, the mechanicals are actually quite good.
So which would I own? Probably put a bag over my head to keep from being ID’d, but the H2 gets the nod for bushwhacking functionality and reliability. 6-liter Vortec and powertrain parts I can get anywhere. Now what kind of bodywork camo can I put on it so nobody realizes it’s an H2... 🤔 I might have to drop 5 G’s on a Disco to drive into Hood River just so my coworkers don’t know about the guilty pleasure rig! 😜
Or... you can burn the checkbook and do a GM powertrain swap into the Disco. Have a rig there’s no shame in, AND have it start up without mechanical intervention.
they are both amazing...old is gold
Except for old smart phones
I take that back,old iphones were indectrucable
Pretty cool! We don't really get Hummers over in Ireland!
Pretty sure my 99 Ranger could make it up in 2WD with the rebuilt factory Trac-Lok limited slip. I do love my M50D-R1 that's in it.
Up here in Alaska,there's a 6x6 that sunk into the ground on a popular trail..and no one has a pickup big enough to recover it.
I have had my H2 for 17 years, I still like it.
I’ll take the Disco any day. Plus, this particular Rover is both beautiful AND in good shape.
Awesome job guys, these reviews are a lot of fun, and give onsite to those watching them considering their own overland vehicle purchase. Keep up the good work.
A great video would be to see these two vehicles pushed to their limits. Maybe with a lot of snow on this same trail. Don't go to extremes. Just see which one can go the farthest up the hill. I like these comparison videos of older vehicles.
Bro! Get rid of the 3-way thermostat before you cook the head gaskets! That’s the most important up-grade on any discovery 2. Check your electric fan, it should kick in at 212F and bring temp down 204F.. your engine after the upgrade you can choose any thermostat, I find the 180f thermostats the best for any disco 2!
This.
Hey I'm looking to buy a disco with blown head gasket in a couple hours...so this may have prevented this from happening? I will look at this 3 way stat when I go. I love the design of these old Discos
I'd love to see a Jeep Commander Project - That's another large SUV from the mid-00s that was a victim of bad timing in the market. Also has a love it / hate it reputation from Jeep fans and offroaders.
Edward Green, Jr My old boss had a Commander that I drove a few times. I’d always thought they were cool, but a bit silly and unnecessary. It was neat, but MAN, vision out of it is TERRIBLE. I could never tell where the corners of it were. Ha! It felt way bigger than the GMC Savanna that I did deliveries in for him.
I agree. One of the most understated SUV's out there.
The more I actually looked into Commanders the more intrigued I am - It's basically a re-bodied Grand Cherokee of similar years. Share most of the underpinnings just like the relationship between the Honda CRV and Element. You gain a 3rd row and have a better style for the year IMO. Reminds me of the great old XJs.
Dobrý kluci, jen tak dal ! :)
They are lined up under the drivers seat (uk car) for best visibility for missing them.
I'd rather have the 2004 Discovery. In fact, I'd like to have the exact one depicted in this video.
Roman will sell it... but 10Gs...
Mr. Mica might try to sell it for ten grand, but judging by all of the "Land Rovers are unreliable crap" comments that follow every video of this vehicle, it might well be a "buyer's market" if he does. I'm not holding my breath waiting, though. I suspect that Mr. Mica appreciates this vehicle for many of the same reasons I would. If it were mine, I would be inclined to keep it as long as I could get the parts needed to keep it running. I suspect he might feel the same way about it. The people I know who have Land Rovers use them off-pavement and aren't put off by the upkeep involved. One of my fly fishing buddies explains it thus: "Land Rover isn't just a vehicle. It is an all-consuming lifestyle. It consumes your time. It consumes your money. Sometimes, it consumes your patience......."
I'd like to see LR3/4 tests and comparison videos (-:
+Jerrold Shelton thank you jerrold for sharing your friend's point of sight on land rovers, being the owner of a 1994 disco1 i see myself and my disco too in his words. Found it heartwarming!
There's no halfway with lr's, you love 'em or you hate 'em. i really love mine.
@@belverdemotorsports2410 I suspect you really love your Land Rover because you actually use it in "Locked Low". That's what the common thread is for my friends that love theirs so much -they use low range, pretty much every weekend, to access quail hunting, fly fishing, or just cool camping spots. They shine bright enough off-road that the "price of admission" that goes along with keeping one running is worthwhile. None of my friends use them as daily drivers and in some cases they didn't even from new.
The Disco looks so much better, both on the outside and on the inside!
If I didnt know any better I'd think Roman was describing the Jeep at the beginning while praising the LR
In Australia we have a saying about land rovers
If you want to go to the outback- take a land rover
If you want to come back- take a land cruiser
Very scary ice situation there. Like August in North Dakota.
I just saw a fully camouflaged heavy duty Ram just out of Fairbanks Alaska with a Jeep Grand Cherokee right on its rear bumper.
Really a nice video, I think I would stick to my Land Cruiser and watch more of your videos for fun, .
Land Rover DISCOVERY 2 is actually quiet a good tow rig with 7700 lbs capacity, it’s also very comfortable on & off road. I haven’t had any major issues with mine. It’s a gem, gonna keep this one for a while.
7700 pounds? That's too high for an old 4x4 SUV man.
Hey guys, I just bought my first hummer h2... and Im in colorado. Lets get together some time. I could use your HUMMER wisdom
Pretty good both
Andrey’s H2 kicked literal Ass
H2's are so underrated, they're real beasts in any situation you encounter offroad. Worth getting if you can find one pre owned ! !
So did land rover defenders...
I have owned a 1998 Discovery and a 2007 H3.
You forgot to mention the Disco has an aluminum body.
I would love to get another Disco someday.
.had toyotas ,jeeps ,range rovers, and now two disco series two , one v8 and one td5 both were average when purchased but after some time and little effort both are great anywhere . the td5 has all bells and whistles and i havnt been able to stop it . a little bit of knowledge helps a lot as no garage touches it .
What color is that Disco? I love it!
I'd take the Disco because I love Land Rovers. Interior looks a lot better too. But the Hummer's still cool. Great video, keep it up guys!
Hummer H2 is my dream car , but here in Poland where prices of gas are twice high or more then in USA . Havin that type of car is something really " stupid ". Please make more videos of H2 , i watch all of them . Really like your channel . Keep up good work :)
Land rover all day every day!!! I own a 2002 disco
Same. I absolutely love mine.
Is there a list of what was upgraded on the front suspension on the H2? I'm planning on buying one. Thanks
I like both rigs. However I do agree with Andre that the Land Cruiser is tippy, not only is the body itself top heavy being so narrow and tall, but the roof wrack that is occupied by weight is causing a lot of potential tip... unsafe as far as I'm concerned. I mean I've got a lifted k5 blazer and I get nervous in that. Cant imagine the nerves you get when you drive that
Could you do a comparison of the big 3 truck makers 3/4 ton , 4x4, bang for your dollar - where do I get the most for my dollars as far as options to trim levels- thanks guys!
What size tires are you guys running on the Disco 2? I have a 2003 model that's about to get the Old Man Emu suspension treatment. Thanks in advance.
Both are good turds .... as long as you have enough $$$ to keep them rolling, you’ll have a blast mocking the naysayers.... cash to fill the Hummer’s tank or cash to keep the Disco’s gremlins in check.
Im getting 18 highway miles per gallon in my H3 I only got between 19-20 in my minivan but all the guys sweat my Hummer they didnt envy my mommy mobile.😉
The Discovery is a gas guzzler too.
@@kittykat632 That's an H3. H2's get 7mpg city, 11 Highway. The Disco II isn't that much better. 11/14. I've had both of these.
My discovery averages 13mpg on premium, so its probably about the same as an H2 in terms of cost.
Kitty Kat but it’s a H3 5 cylinder engine not comparable at all
Land Rover. The Best 4x4 By Far!!! Nuf said.
Yeah idk about that chief
My '03 H2 would pull the frame in half on that land rover! 😂
Yup 👍
I have been super happy with my disco.
Hi loving your channel all the way from Glasgow UK.
I have a 2016 Mercedes GLE SUV. Have you ever done a Video about one?
Abdul Rahman Ahmed what’s the GLE like off-road? Get it down to Drumclog and get a video posted 👍🏻 I’m a D2 owner from Edinburgh and love this channel too 😁
Will do 👍 its actually ok. I previously owned a W164 ML and that was amazing off road.
I've never owned or driven either vehicle. That said, the Discovery looks like a brilliant design for off road use in terms of visibility and seating position. This exact design with Toyota-quality components would be perfect. And yeah, it does sound like I'm talking about a Land Cruiser.
I like this "old vs old". Two old guys reviewing two old trucks/suvs. Thanks for taking it on the chin for us! Gave to give it to the "brick", over the more stylish disco, but the brick is a piss poor imitation of a true beast of a vehicle.
Would keep a disco for off road .best reason solid live axel in front
That Disco will be in trouble when approach and departure Angles come in to play. That is on of the Hummers strengths. Once you upgrade the front suspension and add a few extra ponies, the H2 is an awesome vehicle. My H2 has a kryptonite front suspension (biggest tie rods ever), predator ECM, magnaflow, exhaust, air raid intake, 37" Cooper stt's, and aluminum race radiator for those Arizona summers. Andrei, please remove the steps!
andrei lopez those steps are a horribly low hang up point! Lol
I forgot the mud flaps too, take those off as well!
Whats your fuel MPG, sorry let me correct, your GPM? I'm constantly amazed at how little HP can be produced by these 6L engines.
Way to go Andre. Roll over Romin.
You’ll see LR all over the world as particular vehicles.
You’ll see the Hummer all over the world as military backed up with a 30,000 gallon tanker truck to support, but non at all an off road hummer.
I use to build the H2. They have a lot of cheap plastic interior parts, but they are the second most capable off road vehicle of all time. The chassis is solid (for a GM chassis) and the engine is pretty reliable. However, it only get 1 miles to the gallon on a good day, so not good for a daily driver.
I rather have the Hummer every day of the week...compared to Disco, better reliability and cheap to maintain.
As much as I like the Disco, I like not being stuck on a mountain more. Gotta pick the H2 as the "better" turd
I’ve towed a 2ton truck out of sand in Africa in a landrover when the hummer couldn’t,I know have owned every model and loved everyone,by the way we towed the hummer out after
I have two H2s and an H3 and I had a 2008 Range rover sport supercharged....as of 2018 the range rover sport left us back in 2010 and I don't regret it. it was at the dealer (while under warranty every month) so glad it's gone. also when I sold it in 2010 I found out the 2010 model had a new 5.0 engine. so ya i m glad i dodged a huge bullet. Hummers for the win here. my 2004 however did need new interior panels.
Another cool Ass video, thanks Guys.............
I’ll take the H2 in a heartbeat . Mine has 200k miles in it and runs like when it was out of the dealer in 2004 .