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- This is my Review of the SMG4 Lawsuit Arc. Let's talk about how this arc is a signal of change for the series.
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The Lawsuit arc just concluded with War of the Fat Italians 2022 on SMG4 and with it Lawyer Kong has been defeated and Meggy has reached new goals. Not to mention the redesigns for SMG4 and SMG3 and Bob and Boopkins. We'll be talking about all of them in this video. For what is my review of this arc and Wotfi 2022.
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0:00 Intro
0:18 The arc's good sides
1:36 The Filler
2:13 The Redesigns
5:28 Meggy
6:31 Contradictions
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SMG4 is an animation series based on Super Mario 64 bloopers AKA SM64 Machinma and GMOD AKA Garry's Mod. It has had a variety of arcs over the years such as the Waluigi arc the Rapper Bob arc the Anime arc the TH-cam arc the Genesis arc the Revelations arc and the Lawsuit arc. The Lawsuit arc just ended with Wotfi 2022 rap with Lawyer Kong and Meggy and this video will talk about it along with redesigns with Bob and Boopkins. The arc included episodes like SMG4: Goodbye SMG4 and SMG4: [NINTENDO HAS CLAIMED THIS VIDEO] and SMG4: Breaking Luigi and SMG4: Mario Can't Play with you anymore. This isn't an SMG4 Theory or theories like Niles or my SMG4 Reaction or me reacting to SMG4 this is a review under overanalyzing SMG4. SMG4 is under Glitch Productions which have made series such as Meta Runner Season 1 Meta Runner Season 2 Sunset Paradise and Murder Drones Season 1 with Meta Runner Season 3 finished. Sunset Paradise is a spinoff of SMG4 following Meggy. But this is the Lawsuit arc and Lawyer Kong.
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I don't know about you, but I always thought that the SMG4 series wasn't supposed to make sense. I love this series to death as a whole (especially the story arcs), but I understand what you're saying here. Hell, I feel the same way about this series sometimes.
Why did you not talk about Axol's redesign?
kaizo
@@jakubklemenski7380 Axol didn't get a redesign. Plus, he's dead.
@@mikekanike8765
1. He did
2. And so what?
My problem with the Lawsuit Arc is that it barely involves any law. I kinda wished the courtroom would be one of the few places in the SMG4 universe that would be taken seriously, since it's literally something that can threaten their entire existence. And seeing Lawyer Kong just smack Meggy during court infront of the judge felt like it was building up to a lawsuit against him. I really hoped that his defeat wouldn't be a rap-battle, but a kind of counter-trial.
The one arc that should’ve had a rap battle that didn’t was the rapper Bob arc, such a missed opportunity
@stoptheohiohate3728still tho. It was lame and cringe
It's smg4 lmao
@@emmanuelmorenodelarosa4691 Having an odd name does not make him immune to criticism.
This arc had potential, but it suffered from pacing and bad writing just like the youtube arc
I would honestly describe this arc as messy, yet fun. I loved things of this arc like how they reestablished that brother and sister bond Mario and Meggy have, but it definitely felt rushed multiple times. Though you can't deny that the animation in the rap battle was fire! Also, I loved how they referenced past villains and the rap battle felt like a recap of what the characters went through. Overall, not the best arc, but definitely enjoyable.
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 He didn't say it was bad. He just said that it was messy but fun. You on the other hand are messy and annoying.
I suggest you watch wotfi rap ai rewritten. It's much funnier than the original.
I can't believe people actually review smg4 videos so thoroughly like this. I know they have a bit of arcs and lore to his videos and content but to me Smg4 has always been just an awesome guy who makes funny and cool meme videos. Also I hope you guys don't think I'm hating on people for doing this it's more of just surprising
Yeah most of the time the people hating on SMG4’s newer content all say the same thing about it every time that it’s not like his older videos.
I am sorry but I gave the 100th like to your comment
@@e1iteyoshi998 OG fan here, came back to SMG4 after hearing about his redesign
was admittedly on the bandwagon before of "it's gotten pretty sucky" before, but i put my biases aside and took a look at it fairly and i honestly had a pretty fun time with his content
there's some things i don't like, honestly, but if i'm being fair there's still a lot of enjoyment to be had like Mario stuck in the door or when he was exterminating Minions, and there's even some changes that i like like Mario being more compassionate towards everyone
i think it does go to show nostalgia really can cloud judgement, and even if i still do prefer a lot more of the older videos i think saying that the content is awful now compared to before is a flat out wrong statement
Bro this is so true 😭 also the wotfi rap this year was sick idgaf what these people say about it
@@alexandergazmen3126 the only thing I dislike about smg4's content these days is that he can't use a lot of stuff without other people going crazy for copyright reasons but it's not even his own fault it's just people can't stop being greedy
I hope that this Wotfi would be like ace-attorney style: calling witnesses, cross-examination, and using Wotfi chalanges as proves, not just as random jokes.
Yeah that would’ve honestly been better than the Judge just deciding “Yep let’s do that”
That would have been cool indeed.
Watch Super Mario attorney
It already came out
Isn’t that what happens in ace attorney because I never played it.
This was the first arc that felt like an actual continuous story since the anime arc. Although it did feel not like a real adventure….
Lawyer Kong was a good character. I liked when he was on screen, and it felt refreshing having a Mario character as an antagonist again (still hoping for a Bowser arc), but he wasn't a good villain when compared to Zero, SMG3, and even Francis and Waluigi. I feel like this was supposed to be a more laid-back arc after having 2 arcs focusing on Zero in a row, kinda like the Rapper Bob arc since Bob wasn't a particularly good antagonist either
I feel like this arc may be meant as a breather for anyone who only really cares about the arcs, and doesn't watch every upload.
Bob is just that mild annoyance
no he isn’t shut up boopkins stares at you with disappointment in his eyes!
Now that you mentioned it, I do wish Bob and Boopkins did play a big role in the arc. Bob's redesign does look pretty good, tho. Also, I just think it's nice they brought back Lawyer Meggy either way.
i mean, bob's new design looks good. I honestly wished they didn't redesign boopkins tho, the new design is so bootleg that it doesn't work at all
Even I think Boopkins' redesign is weird. But I'm sure I'll get used to it. He does look like a Sunset Paradise character. I do think SMG4 and SMG3's redesigns are kinda cute.
@@julianmoe928 nah. Boopkins looking like a roblox character.
@@simarpreetsingh3270 that's an insult to Roblox characters
@@nicolewhite3157 imagine boopkins new model is playable in roblox morph
Honesty I feel like one of if not the biggest problems this Arc has is how there's a lot of good ideas but they're normally very rushed. When Meggy becamw an Inkling again it was such a big moment that it looked like it would last until the end of the Arc but instead she changes in the very next episode. Same thing with Mario becoming normal it could've lasted for much longer but he's turned back in the next episode by memes of all things. Plus there's also the Breaking Luigi episode which I think could've lasted for longer as the idea was great especially with Bob and Boopkins working for Luigi but it just ends up not being important by the end of the Arc. This Arc is just wasted potential to me and should've been better then what the end product we ended up getting.
Maybe instead of SMG4 (the character) being connected to Luke which is why he died, maybe hes connected to the SMG4 channel and so died when it was deleted? but yeah that one line in wotfi suggests otherwise, the writing was a let-down in this arc. Though i did like lawyer kong a lot as a villain, and personally didn't find the voice annoying, but i can see why you did. By the way, what are your thoughts on the redesigns?
I was just about to comment that!
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002
There’s a difference between an enjoyer and a boot-licker.
You qualify as the latter.
Real enjoyers would just enjoy it, end of story. Boot-lickers defend it at all cost, cause if somebody even has a single problem with a new episode, they’re considered haters because SMG4 “can do no wrong”
I think when smg4 said I was just a stupid little child, I think they were just referring to the first episode that had smg4 in it or the first video of of the smg4 channel entirely. The evidence of it is in the 10-year anniversary special trailer where they explicitly mention the first ever video. That's not only a nice reference for the movie, but is also possible confirmation that my theory is right.
At this point Meggy is basically a swiss army knife. She can do it all, lawyer sports coach, fire fighter, cop. She is the jack of all trades.
I'll give this a 9 out of 10, but honestly I'm just happy that Inkling Meggy came back because of Splatoon 3.
Funny, I don't remember seeing any scene of Inkling Meggy when I watched the WOTFI 2022.
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 its somewhere in the lawsuit arc
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 episode skipper detected
@@Mat-Lat Uh whoops? 😅
Well, in my opinion, Luke has tried to do more of a comedic arc than a serious arc that is too dependent on the previous stories. Overall, it was interesting for me. The silly stuff and the fun battles with the Nintendo ninjas was a nice way to take a break from the anime stuff or the previous stories. And as for Lawyer Kong or Funky Kong, he plays Nintendo's lawyer in this arc, so he's legally bound to stop Nintendo-related crimes, but many say he doesn't have a particular motivation as a villain, which I think it is wrong. A lawyer has to do the necessary work for his company, but after realizing that Nintendo doesn't value his words, he reverts to his old self. Considering the story that happened and not comparing him to other villains, Lawyer Kong played his part as a good and fun villain in this arc. The problem is that from now on, arcs are always going to be compared to Genesis arc and Revelations, which I don't think is right, anyway, one of the points of this channel is the random adventures of Mario and his friends.
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 yeah, that's so true 👍
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 your opinion doesn't make everyone's opinions.
Had me in the beginning and then at the end pulled me out. Ofc thats the point of the channel. Thanks... for telling us that? But really, this felt like a ginormous filler arc. Which I guess is SMG4 every episode, but the difference was there was little consequences and it was overall dumb in a good way. This aint it chief. This shouldve really had about as much relevance as that of the Waluigi arc, and yet it falls more flat than the Rapper Bob arc. Sure, he served his purpose, but at what cost? A predictable arc that had a pretty kindergarten level understandable ending? Nah chief.
More mid than the Pittsburgh Steelers.
And the redesigns, aside from Bob suck, Fishy Boopkins out here looking like baby's first blender project and Luke looks more generic than the average NYC street. SMG3 out here looking like a dollar store "chad". Overall, couldve really been much better imo.
@@so12productions They didn't state that? they just said they're tired of hearing that in their opinion.
@@RaphielShiraha64 they pretty much implied it, at least how they say their opinion. I mean we get that they like the comedy and silliness equally but what about the people who like one or the other?
I think we need another dive at the smg4 iceberg because holy hell with how much time has progressed from the last one that was reviewed it’s safe to say it might be even more confusing and frustrating to go through now with the contradictions from this arc and the ones before it
@Jako yeah I agree there must be like almost a thousand of entries from then to now but yeah hopefully Luke will someday just take the time to look at his lore and establish what is canon and not and continue from there but yeah hope to see another smg4 iceberg review in the future
I feel like smg4 is going to go to bad and that’s sad
@@txjoker72 I can kinda tell ngl
I find it weird Funky just become a lawyer because he hated Smg4 so he can get rid of him. Now he’s just selling guns
He didn't he was just a laywer the whole timd.
Did you watch all of wotfi 2022
Yes, I didn't mean that, I was saying that the reason wasn't smg4 it was because of his job.
I honestly felt the same way through this arc , but I was happy they did Give meggy more attention and the main focus of the rap. I feel as though Luke and Smg4 were always connected and Due to the Mario in real life video. However it does fell weird that they contradicted Smg4s orgin cause he came from a flashdrive as an avatar. Unless they’re not telling us something. If case what? That Luke and Smg4 are connected? Then if that’s the case there should be an arc around that. And linking the characters back to the real world with them trying to get back to the main world. Like in Mario but in real life. This arc honestly felt like a 7/ 10 at the best for me. I love this series too.
Personally, I hated how much Meggy was used here. Since 2019 Meggy has been used so much by Glitch Productions and given different stories that I just can't enjoy her showing up anymore.
@@mailpaper7754 Or better yet, just don't watch SMG4 anymore like how everyone else's doing.
Ok, I'm not gonna lie, but you kinda make a good point. But I believe that Meggy being a lawyer in the Lawsuit Arc is only for the arc, I think they're probably gonna go back to the sports teacher job in 2 or 3 weeks. Glad to see her Lawyer Brain go to rest now. Also, I love the Meggy Lawyer Outfit very much, I can't get enough of it.
I was half-expecting someone to die in this arc, because SMG4's been a little bloodthirsty with his arcs lately.
Lmao SAME I was waiting for a death to happen while watching the arc
I think the best part of wotfi 2022 was the rap battle
Yessssssss
Yep
The rap battles are always dope.
Yeah, could use alittle more Daft Punk tho.
Yup!
Meggy really has been through a lot.
Witnessing Desti dying before her
Full body change
Winning splatfest
New voice
Going on vacation
Saving Port Aurora on vacation
Her house is a hotel
She’s learns a lawyer
And then saves the case by talking about Mario’s IP
im gonna be honest, the anime arc probably was the best plotted one since it was unpredictable, not saying it was the best story since they were just going after a dweeb with a pencil
edit: the wotfi arcs i enjoyed overall were the waluigi one, because it actually made sense, he forces people into a challenge because hes a tyrant, and the youtube arc as well since, seeing smg3 fail was amazing
Pfft, I don't think the Anime arc was predictable, I think the ENTIRE SMG4 Hatedom is predictale, and retarded too.
Gonna have to disagree on that one, while anime arc was and still is unpredictable, that doesn't automatically mean it's a good thing, it just feels like it's two arcs separately without rhyme or reason, meggy's kidnapping was sudden and out of nowhere with literally zero buildup
@@leonardodaniel8876 yeah, parts 1 and 2 feel compleatly different.
Only thing I hated about that arc was Desti's death, which just made no sense with everything that wss established up to that point. Up to then, dying was just a minor inconvenience they could bounce back from next scene. And Desti actually dying just... didnt make sense. At all. Sure some people justify it as not being close to Mario as the others but like... that doesnt matter, this breaks the conventional rule of SMG4: Dying is but a mere inconvenience that should not hinder your progression into the next scene.
This was a major juxtaposition of that rule. And honestly kinda marked the beginning of the end of the mostly fun and interesting episodes. In a way, SMG4 kinda died with Desti. The numbers wont say it but it definately did tbh. I miss the old stuff man.
@@kyperactive yeah desti's death spawned probably the worst trend in smg4 arcs about having to kill characters to do an impact, even tho most of the time that impact falss incredibly short (atleast imo, a lot of the fandom is really sensible to deaths as i've seen people get REALLY affected by it).
ALSO another really big flaw about desti's death is just how much it affected meggy, like it really came out of nowhere, desti was a pain in the back for meggy's team, not only wanting to steal mario off her team and straight up cheating by stealing their weapons, literally 2 videos before her death they were enemies to death and just suddenly meggy cares so much about her death to have 7 breakdowns in the span of a week
I appreciate how in depth this discussion is. Awareness and constructive criticism (done responsibly.) are pretty much the best existing tools used for changing things for the better.
I also agree with you about Wotfi. the repetition and predictability we saw this year took away from the celebratory nature of Wotfi. when we got to the song battle, (doesn't really feel much like a rap anymore, but I get why.) Last year, they killed off Axol. that was a huge* surprise given the fact that Axol was a major character, and not a supporting role. in addition, they let Melony grow as a character in Wotfi 2021's aftermath. this year, they threatened to remove all Nintendo characters, and kill off everyone else. What reason did we have to believe that they would go through with that?
(*): Forgot to mention, it was an outcome you could potentially foresee, but it was surprising that they went through with it anyway.
I feel like this arc wasn’t for story but for comedy, because the ultimate episode where Mario is fighting lawyer Kong is hilarious on purpose. This also explains why the villain is so goofy and why the lore isn’t effected that much, because this arc was probably made because smg4 had a bunch of Nintendo related jokes and so made a Nintendo related arc me thinks
True 👍
If they wanted to do a comedic arc, they shouldn't have forced a dramatic moment where everyone dies. Nor tie it back to the Genesis arc (your most serious arc).
If it was for pure comedy, then the outcome wouldn't have been that major, even though the redesigns were useless to me.
Amazing review!!!
How many times has this man played the “SMG3: AH! IM ASIAN!” clip?
Quite the excellent analysis
Shockhat? Like the SSGV5 one? Wasn’t expecting you to be in this comment section, but that’s pretty cool
Another cool thing about this arc is the breaking bad luigi I feel like it could have potential in the future well at least they were hinting it with luigi in his Walter white persona at the end of wotfi 2022
He literally continues making memes after the rap battle, he's probably here to stay
Honestly to me this wotfi feels it was made as a break to the more recent serious arcs along with the change in character designs and dam the ending rap is so good
The song is good, but it doesnt feel like a wotfi rap, not even a rap.
I felt like it was just short, and the "Clown Fever" video should of been a start of a arc, because like the clown has more backstory like how his girl thought he was not the biggest clown and how he was a failiure, it's like the waluigi arc, how
he had been rejected from the smash game.
just finished the video and gonna go a little off topic
I LOVE THE REDESIGNS ALL OF THEM ARE AWESOME IDC
Agreed lol.
I just started watching this channel, and I really like it, I think this is a good channel and I'll probably start watching more videos 📹 😀
i don't think Meggy tried to pursue being a lawyer. she had to be a lawyer to save her friends
smg4 desing looks like a fast food mascot
i love it when the WOTFI ends with an arc, it makes them better when it comes to the end, props for studying the show but yeah, everyone to their own
I think we should have more one-off videos. They were much more silly and just... fun.
I’m surprised SMG4 hasn’t gotten sued where SML has… both SMG4 and SML’s content has risky jokes and content… and a lot of what meggy sings about in WOTFI can be applied to SML too…
Deference between the 2 is sml uses marketable plushie and set into real life. Also you can mistake it for being apart of nintendo from how it appears.
Sml is alot more edgy and encourage bad behavour while amg4 is alot more light hearted and don't rely on edgy humor
@@TCBlueFire you sound like the kids on good morning america… sure SML used Nintendo plushies but it is super obvious SML is not affiliated with Nintendo (same with SMG4) SML got scared into submission and didn’t realize there was nothing Nintendo could do because to quote Meggy “fair use states parody of a style can’t hold water in a courtroom trial” SML just like SMG4 would be fine…
@@spsaofficalchannel sorry i've never seen this message but regardless.
That doesn't change the fact on how obvious it is or isn't people are drawn to the characters of Nintendo ip. And people got hurt watching sml now I'm not gonna blame everything on sml because parent should keep an eye on their kid but sml needs responsibility. Now I'm not going to pretend i know what I'm talking about laws but it's also based off location and sml is more accessible to getting suit. Even atill Nintendo is a billion dollar company with a bad reputation he was going to lose the case even if he was not in the wrong.
Smg4 just plain and simple did it for marketing. Nintendo had no interest in them because these things are a lot more light hearted and doesn't have a bad background.
I'm not saying this because i hate sml and love smg4. I watch both of them now and see some funny episodes but i just see why it was just plain and simple
5:28 - 6:31 that all is explained in the recent episode "Mario's Tunnel of Doom" they even acknowledged that people probably didn't remember. seems like they may watch your videos and take that into consideration
I was expecting something super nitpicky and ridiculous, but you've actually got a lot of fair and logical criticisms. Some things I agree with, some things I don't, but there's definitely some things SMG4 could use from this review going forward
It's funny how smg4s alternative nintendo ip to pass the border is litterly now his new design
Great review! I completely understand why you didn't care for this arc, personally I like it! Is it predictable? Yes. Is it a simplistic story vs the Genesis or Revelations arcs? Yes. I'm just glad nobody died at the end! Also, around May when I started binging SMG4 episodes that I missed out on, I was concerned if SMG4 would actually get sued, and that made me realize "Hay, they could make a story about it", and sure enough, here we are!
This was one of the best arcs ever but could use improvement on the design of boopkins
Yeah he looks like rectangle if he was more egg shaped or circle shape i would like it
Yea he is a green ball with arms and legs
@@Sans-et1vj hes a sphere rectangle😂😂
Personally once you think about it, boopkins design is fine. After all, compared to everyone else in the main group, who is an adult or teenager, boopkins is still just a kid, he's still growing
What the fuck is that design?!
Amazing 👏
Anyone else feel that because of the origin in smg4 revelations where it's revealed Smg4 is the reason everyone acts so dangerously stupid kinda makes it hard to root for him, like at that point he's practically the Villian.
It was at this moment that anything related to classic SMG4 was gone.
1:44 is such a passive aggressive roast and it’s so funny lol
I agree with everything and the redesigns feel wierd looking at them
I know a simple way to fix all the flaws in SMG4 you need to be recruited man because you pay more attention to details you’re pointing out things that weren’t executed right. You find alternative ways to make it these episodes better possibly funnier and that’s why I like watching your videos because you point out these things you find alternatives to make them better
I think they should hire a real fat Italian to have a opinion on it,
Idk it seems like a SMG4 thing to do
"A company needs to hire a critic to make a arc his way instead of letting the creators do their job and let a inexperienced person do the story arcs."
We forget this is a TH-cam series,
We also never really got to see how Lawyer Kong killing everyone affected Luigi, Bob and Boopkins. They sorta disappeared when they could be involved in Mario’s siege at Nintendo.
Totally agree with this review but you didn't talk about the fact that the animation in this arc is so much better than before like just take the rap battle, we can clearly see that their mouth are animated wich was not the case before and overall the animation is just way smoother :D
PS : sorry for bad english ;-;
Agreed, the animation in the rap battle was epic.
Also, this is actually pretty good English.
I agree, it is smooth. Though the way they move their mouth look like animatronics.
I love smg4 no matter what! i’m happy to hear opinions!
The idea of luigi becoming Walter white in a episode is……Something I didn’t know would happen
Here's my honest opinion on the lawsuit arc.
Yes, it's just repeating the TH-cam arc so it was impossible to feel sad because we knew what was gonna happen. The beginning was perfect as you said but the way they executed the story was rushed. I get lawyer Kong was made as a joke but that is why he's not a threatful villain.
Too many SMG4 fans actually thought Nintendo signed a DMCA at SMG4 and if that was the case they would've already done it so Nintendo clearly doesn't care yet.
If Mario was in splatoon 3 didn't give me any connections to splatoon 3 because the game just came out and there's no Gmod models that they could work with. (But you gotta admit putting TF2 eyes on a manta ray for Big man was funny) but I don't see how that whole video was supposed to be splatoon 3.
Breaking Luigi was just SMG4 turning Luigi into Walter White. I laughed at the video but knowing it was just to keep the Lawsuit arc going just killed it.
Then after that was just the TH-cam arc being repeated with all characters dying and coming back to life with a WOTFI for which I was kinda wishing for a normal WOTFI this year.
And yes. You did point out SMG4 broke so much lore of what was said in the past. I don't want to see this story take a huge downfall but unfortunately it's going down that path.
Last of all: The redesigns just felt pointless because all the characters that did nothing this arc got it. All the long time fans are just going to hate SMG4 for doing that. The time was right for Meggy when that whole thing happened to her in the Anime arc as you stated but ya.
Honest opinion
4/10
Had potential but the was it was executed was bad.
I don't wanna hate on SMG4 because it's his channel and his characters but he's not doing a good job keeping his lore straight
About the Meggy’s collage arc being incomplete, smg4 actually listened to his audience about how they were angry about how the Meggy collage arc didn’t continue, so he made Mario’s Tunnel of Doom. This is not the only example, as in the episode announcement, he listened to criticism and redesigned smg4, smg3, bob and boopkins to look better
Wonder why people say smg4 doesn’t listen to critism
Maybe because despite the backlash, we've had 3 arc WOTFIs in a row? Sure, this year was different, but it still wasn't the WOTFI we want and was just lame.
I actually really enjoyed the lawsuit arc. As someone who didn’t enjoy the dark themes of revelations and genesis this was a breath of fresh air and I personally think that the whole point of the middle episodes like breaking Luigi was to restore the order that lawyer kong destroyed (or re-destroy the order lawyer kong brought back depending how you look at it). I think that the arc was meant to be a light hearted romp to address the fact that Nintendo is the owner of a large part of the cast and give some redesigns to make sure we don’t lose some of the more iconic characters.
i agree with you that bob and boopkins should have been in the arc but smg3 would be hard to fit in due to then having to drag him out of the internet graveyard every time they want to use him not to mention he has been involved in the last 3 arcs before the lawsuit arc
I thought I cared about SMG4 lore, but before you I never knew how deep this rabbit hole could go.
this a huge W i agree with everything in the video
Same it I’m upset about it I wanted it to be good so badly
i for myself didn't expect the new designs too
I think it would have been more interesthing if they explore how would the original Nintendo charathers react to what they have done in their memy state, and the idea of Smg4 forcing them unwilling, that would have made a more interesthing arc.
That's the problem I have. It is so focused on SMG4, Mario, Meggy and Luigi. We don't see the side characters react to their old lives being a lie and changing in front of them. Both the Nintendos and the third parties.
The reason they redesigned the Charakter is so they can turn them into *marketeble figurines*
You deserve more subscribers
I get your point, I never realized that lawsuit arc was kind repetitive of TH-cam/Genesis Arc quite being Similar for Smg4 characters dying and Returning at the same time after begin with I don't understand why Smg4 can't make something to different story better than TH-cam Arc, it's not because it's a good thing, it's because somehow to repetitive but dying and returning doesn't work. I'll be honest this Arc was absolutely phenomenal but wasn't to be perfect by the story in my opinion
Funky Kong also has probably one of the worst motives in comparison to others: Waluigi wanted to make everyone suffer because of being rejected, SMG3 wanted SMG4's channel, Francis wanted an anime island, and Zero his own universe back. Sure, most of those aren't serious at all, but it was a goal in mind that pushed them forward since the start.
Lawyer Kong was just... Mario doesn't want to work with Nintendo, so he gets mad and wants to get rid of everyone. That's it. It didn't even feel like he was being backed up by Nintendo most of the time, just that he was throwing a tantrum out of spite even though Miyamoto was fine with things at first. With Waluigi at least he was doing things for himself, but with Lawyer Kong he was doing something for someone who didn't even have an issue at the start
a great motivation for him would be him wanting to get rid of the memes that "infected" the world, it would be understandable, and would make us question the impact the memes had in the SMG4 world, he could have a backstory where the memes somehow affected his life in a bad way, making him determined to end SMG4 and the memes that came with him, that would be the PERFECT reason, but they unfortunatly missed this great opportunity
@@redparrotgaming8060 To be fair, getting rid of all SMG4 ocs kinda included the meme stuff too, but yeah a small backstory just showing why he was so obsessed with getting rid of them other than just "They didn't listen once and I got mad" would've worked better
Hell, him just being like "Having to control this much chaos made my job more stressful for so many years" would've been enough
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 How is the criticism of "having a villain with a good motivation" is a weak criticism? also no offense but i saw another reply of you where it seems you dislike people just for giving criticism to smg4 stuff??? you do know people can give criticism and still enjoy something right? nobody is saying this arc is completely trash just that some parts of it could be better.
would of been 2 seperate people but yet end up get us believe it's the same person in both universes.
My ONLY issue with this arc was that bob and boopkins didn’t play nearly as much of a role as they should have.
can we explain why in a episode during the lawsuit arc , luke deleted the channel but didn't impact the lore.
And it randomly came back? Or youtube was like having a fail safe like a video game if you have regret doing something?
@@natashakatgaming6987 idk
Im gonna make this comment as I go through the video. I wanna make it clear I have been a fan of smg4 since late 2013 and still continue to love this series. I personally love his new arc formats and adding lore, character development, emotions, etc. to his unique world.
With that out of the way lets go into it. So far im 2 minutes in and im glad you highlight some of the good stuff it did. I think in terms of concept this arc was the best, because it takes a scenario that could happen to Smg4. Now you mention how more videos in between the previous 2 arc and to that I do agree, I wish smg4 did a better job at making these arcs stand out. He did it well once when we did the anime arc and than the youtube arc but ever since then its been fine to meh.
Now in terms of missed potential, I cant say I agree. What missed potential is there? You never give any example of what could have made the story flow better.
A 4 episode arc? God no, why? I think the problem for me is when the episodes arent long enough. If the arcs were consistently 17 - 26 minutes long with 5 - 8 episodes each I see that as an amazing amount. Every show has filler, you kinda need filler to make the major plots stand out more. I completely agree the start of the Arc could have been better, but the entire execution of this arc I think was very well done. You than mention how nothing changes really from start to end of the arc. Um, what? Did a lot change no, but what was gonna change to make it seem like a lot? Because the way I see it having all nintendo characters revert back to "normal", non nintendo IP characters getting deleted, Smg4s channel being temporarily deleted, the redesigns of Smg4 smg3 bob and boopkins, and an arc where Violence isnt the solution at all? I think those are some pretty big changes personally. I will say that those changes should have lasted longer to hold more of an impact. For example they completely rushed mario reverting to his nintendo self and then back to normal.
Ill have to check out your wotfi video so I wont talk about that. However what I will say is I dont mind the wotfis being in the arcs, I remember back in 2019 I believe when they went back to the OG wotfis and it just wasnt good, it was bland and boring to me. Besides its War Of The Fat Italians, sure it started off as smg4 vs mario but them being on the same team makes the title still work.
As for what you say for the redesigns, I do agree that the process should have been longer but doesnt that contradict what you said about the arc should only be 4 episodes? I understand you said because of filler it could have been that short if you took it out but again all shows have and need filler. I dont think the arc was to just change the designs, I think its smg4 wanting his characters to hold their own and be unique aside from the MAJOR ones like Mario, Peach, Bowser, etc. I see nothing wrong with them at all. I can understand if someone wouldnt like the bob and boopkins ones but the smg4 and smg3 ones makes perfect sense to me. I do completely agree however how they should have implemented the characters that got redesigns way more into this arc, but at the same time it makes sense that it would focus on Mario, Smg4, and Luigi just as much as the others. Listen I adore meggy but she definitely didnt need as much screen time aside from her being the lawyer so Ill give you her at least.
I really dont understand this rant on Meggy though. People change, a lot. And in smg4s world where anything can happen I dont see why this is such a big deal. Can it be viewed as a flaw in her character? Sure, but why is that a bad thing? It shows that shes not perfect and is still finding her way through life and what she is passionate about.
I dont see why you say smg4 and luke are not connected when in genesis arc its luke plugging in the usb seemingly to his computer to create the world of smg4. Smg4 the character doesnt know his origins aside from that so when you mention the point of him saying a childhood I agree that, that is a clear contradictory. But im gonna be deadass with you, who cares. At the end of the day theres a lot of contradictory throughout the entire universe of smg4 and smg4 is supposed to be luke inside the world of nintendo/mario/internet, etc. I just dont see it as that major of an issue personally. And then your comparison of the youtube arc and lawyer arc is wrong. The characters didnt die in the youtube arc, they were all just sent to the internet graveyard. Where as in the lawyer arc they quite literally died.
And wow that to me is a surprising take on Lawyer Kong, I thought so far he was the best antagonist so far in the series. He is smart with what hes doing, he is actually threatening in a different way than the genesis arc, he is a competent villain. In my eyes that was the problem with antagonists such as waluigi and smg3 where it was all just power that seemingly fell into their hands instead of being competent at all. They were never scary to me for the series. I will agree though that the entire kaiso and lawyer arc should have not been rushed in anyway. I dont know why they would feel the need to rush anything in the first place honestly.
Im glad youre here giving actually competent criticism for the most part because not a lot of fans do that for smg4s universe, but at the same time when giving constructive criticism you have to provide your own examples on how it could have been improved. I could name a lot of things I would do differently whether based on my own taste of what I love about the show or based on something I didnt like as much. I personally loved the arc still and I view it as the 3rd best arc weve had behind the waluigi arc and Genesis/revelations
Im so sorry this comment is so long
You deserve more likes than this video has.
@@fransiscayulianita68 lmao thank you
@Mr. Sinister
I see you put a lot of thought, but I like to respond. I will have a second part later.
>Every show has filler, you kinda need filler to make the major plots stand out more.
Yes SMG4 has filler, but that is the rest of the 50 videos they make a year. Thus the arcs standout for an attempt to have longer narratives. So arcs feeling slowpaced or an arc episode that has very little meat to offer is what bothers us. You can't just tune in without a little context, but you only come out with little to gain.
>Um, what? Did a lot change no, but what was gonna change to make it seem like a lot? Because the way I see it having all nintendo characters revert back to "normal", non nintendo IP characters getting deleted, Smg4s channel being temporarily deleted, the redesigns of Smg4 smg3 bob and boopkins, and an arc where Violence isnt the solution at all?
Rapper Bob did the last thing already. The deleted stuff were reversed so everything is going back to normal like the TH-cam arc or Zero's damage. The status quo. I think a lasting effect is what he is talking about.
You don't have to like WOFI 2019, but a lot would prefer these arcs to end naturally and not predictably, especially when higher stakes are involved. More of an adventure like the movies and Final Hours and less 15 minute filler collabs+rap battles.
Holding their own huh? If SMG4 wanted his characters to hold their own, then he failed with how 4 is the only redesigned/original character to do something of value. There had to be some balance with how this arc involved multiple factions, but the character scope was just small with only the Main 4 who didn't need this much focus aagain. A few problems I have with this arc is just all the side characters don't have much say in the events until the end for challenge filler. Like with SMG4 being why the universe and its residents are messed up, it would effectively mean their memories are effectively a lie? Does anyone react? No. Does anyone actually want to resist or accept Lawyer Kong's rule? Does anyone care that their lives may permanently change forever? No. Considering that the OCs who would get mass killed off are the ones that have little say in the arc, the serious aspect of this arc falls flat.
In regards to Meggy. Yes, real people take time to find their calling. It is a bad thing narratively in relation to Meggy having a lot of screentime for an ongoing story that doesn't need to be padded this far, while some characters like Tari haven't got major development in years. Also how circular things have gotten. She wants to fight crime? No. She is depressed and gets Sunset Paradise dedicated to herself. After fighting an inner demon, she wants to become a sports teacher and gets College partially about herself. She doesn't want to become a sports teacher and instead fight crime. Like is Sunset Paradise/College just pointless now? I end up thinking Meggy is going to be in multiple serious stories without actual lasting development, at the expense of other characters never getting anything. Padding and false leads will just come off as the writers are desperate to not have Meggy become irrelevant and centre of the verse.
@@sirkillalot9892 I'll respond sometime, I just dont care for having huge discussions in a youtube comment section, if you want to move it else where I would be fine with that
I believe that the arc was a bit weird not because of the rush but because of the previous arc . The cosmology lore was a perfect arc and made the channel deeper and gave us information about the past etc. I believe that there should be more arcs like that ( I really wish that axol would return but it's OK even if it doesn't ) and the channel is capable of doing so
Blame COPPA for forcing SMG4 to be "kid-friendly"
It's not my fault that I'm getting use to SMG4's New content and characters.
I think they just wanted a arc to be more relaxed and silly after the rapid fire story arcs.
@@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002 Okay, you're comment here is probably the most respectful and calmest one.
Hey, you didn't remember that she said that she is gonna probably have to get her lawyer brain out. Means kinda become a lawyer kind of. So, Meggy doesn't want to actually become a lawyer. She had to, its not her job, and more.
Well yea but Luke(SMG4) did say at the end of Wotfi the changed the designs just in case Nintendo comes for them
Society: if Nintendo was never strict about ip but balanced at the same time
I like this arc, but I would've personally changed it so that it ties in with the aftermath of "If Mario was the last man on earth."
Remember how his friends just abandoned him just for some stupid pizza competition? Then when he ruined it, WHICH WAS JUSTIFIED, they all beat him up? That doesn't sound like something friends would do to one of their own! Then I remembered, this wasn't the first time Mario's "friends" have treated him like shit (cause trust me, there were other times). So I really wanted this new arc to finally be Mario's breaking point. In fact, here's a little summary of what I had in mind.
So things would start off after the pizza incident. Everyone realizes they may have been a bit too harsh on Mario, so they each try to apologize individually, but Mario avoids them, saying that's all in the past and he's perfectly fine. Though deep down, he's in a state of grief, negative thoughts and emotions flowing through his head. The embodiment of his emotions takes the form of a evil version of himself, we'll call him Mr. M. Now Mr. M is constantly urging Mario to stop being a weakling and leave everything behind. Eventually, Mario gives in, and this leads to a huge emotional argument scene, where Mario decides he's had enough of his friends and declares that he's leaving.
Some time after he leaves the Mushroom Kingdom behind, Smg4 and the gang finally come to grips with the fact that they've been horrible friends, so they decide to go out and find him. While that's going on, Mario becomes a depressed hobo, until he meets a new group of friends who actually respect who he is, his attitude also changes and by the time the gang finds him, he is a completely different person. More drama occurs and Mario dissapears again, and we have this scene with Mr. M finally getting into Mario's head, and he turns to the dark side (kinda like Waluigi in his story arc). Mario decides to use his Avatar powers to create a new universe, one free of Smg4, Meggy, and everyone else that wasn't in his life before. Essentially, he wants to create a world before Smg4 came along. Back when things made sense.
I'm not really sure what happens next, other than Mario facing off against his friends. During the fight, Mario comes to his senses, but Mr. M fights for control. Eventually, the two split from each other, which leads to another epic battle between Mario and Mr. M. Of course things go well, and everything is resolved. The end
The first plothole I remember with this was the Waluigi Taco stand joke. I was baffled because isn't Taco stand a fan game, not canon and out of character for normal waluigi, who is inside the border? I remember posting this plothole and a lot of people said that I was nitpicking and then giving me their Headcanon. But then each new video contracticted previous and the same arc, damn why Funky Kong died if he's technically an OC, since SMG4 and 3 died having in mind they're mario with other color while he is Funky Kong with another suit?
I liked the arc and also it was a breath of fresh air from the last darker arcs. Now I do prefer the darker arcs because I love that kind of lore (but i dont like it when a characters dies), but they did need a little break. Also I think SMG4 and Luke's channel are half connected in some way and they should honestly make an arc on SMG4 and Luke. Also the rap battle was easily the best of the arc, as most are and I dont mind arc wotfis because they usually have the better rap battles.
Brooo like- they were doing something with Luigi too. Like, some episodes have him using these powers and I honestly thought the next arc was gonna be about him being corrupted with the powers he has or something like that.
But then they just… didn’t do anything? With him??? And that made me so upset cause I would have loved a Luigi arc.
Maybe they’re thinking of doing something for him in the future but I’m just so confused with them showing that Luigi has these cool powers, yet it leads to no where for the current arc in the end.
They did the redesigns so they can sell merch without copyright problems
I feel like smg4/3 being redesigned in genesis would work since it could be some sort of universal break that changes their appearance or something
Smg4 and Luke being the same,.. just doesnt make any sense. At least to me.
Smg4 Design Looks more like Kevin To me.
@@nooboman8nooboman883 im not talking about the redesign, but about the character itself.
One thing I REALLY dont understand is that at the end of the WOTFI when SMG4 and 3 change design, doesnt that go against a MAJOR plot point established in the genesis arc, that SMG4 and 3 are guardians, and they are designed based off of the avatar BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE TO PROTECT, if they change the design then what happens to that bit of lore???
think time stretch, think. if they redesigned smg4 n' 3 and of course they are based on their avatar so they have to look similar, it can only mean one thing
mario redesign incoming
jk, tho i really hope this won't happen
@@get_a_gun. It won't happen never
@@minipz9thebastfiiter509 are yo sure bout that?
@@get_a_gun. yes
Finally someone who get that point !
I liked The Lawsuit Arc, but even I'll admit it felt rushed. In fact, I feel like a lot of season 12 has been rushed. The Kaizo story was so short, both arcs have only been the minimum amount of episodes allowed for an arc, Clown Fever had a lame ending, a lot of episodes are less than 10 minutes, and it seems like they just completely forgot about the Games Be Like... series. However, I will say the WOTFI rap was awesome in my opinion and it's impressive how they managed to make Lawyer Kong sound good in it.
There are also the Mario Does Things videos which they keep reusing the same ideas for. Mario Tries Life Hacks 2, Mario Reacts To Funny Tik Toks 2, Mario Reacts To Nintendo Memes 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11! Why can't Mario do stuff like speedrun Super Mario 64 or react to weird Nintendo commercials anymore?
Wait,whats season 12?
@@BirdDuck
Season 12 is the season of SMG4 we're in right now, it began with Mario Waits For The Bus.
tbh i wonder if after the first couple kaizo arc episodes they got reminded that nintendo exists and could easily destroy them at any moment, and were like "AH! we need to deal with that!", thus leading to the lawsuit arc, and kaizo's arc getting rushed as collateral damage of a complete 180. But because some of the resources normally used for making one arc had already been used on the kaizo arc, that caused the lawsuit arc to become lower quality as a result. and tbh, the lawsuit arc would have worked better if it was allowed more time to progress in a more intricate manner, and then ended not in a wotfi but in a court-themed smg4 movie type gig. heck, they could have decided to experiment with doing the kaizo arc as a simultaneous but seperate arc that could have then also interacted with the lawsuit arc as well in some way. i'm not sure how wotfi 2022 would fit in with all this, but maybe that would simply have been a standalone gig started by mario calling one of smg4's memes cringe or something idk lol
i personally like the Lawsuit Arc. but i understand why you don't think the same. i also like the re-redesigns around the time of "It's Gotta Be Perfect" also, WOTFI 2021 and 2022 Rap Battles are my favorites
One good thing about wotfis is if meggys voice actress is in it then it'll definitely have awesome vocals and music
It would have made more sense of their redesigns if they give Bob, Boopkins and smg3 a big role in this arc as they weren’t used a lot in this arc.
Imo, they should have made more episodes in this arc
Woifi was legit just 22 mins of minigames and a rap battle
They’ve already fought fricking gods so I don’t understand why that can’t have a laid back arc
Nobody said that? they're saying that the arc felt rushed and some elements of it could have been better, like making others characters like bob and boopkins be more relevant to the arc to justify their redesigns a bit more, this is meant to be a criticism video not a hating video.
NGL you are a god telling the future since you said the future of the clown theory and now your correct
I think the reason why the arcs have been so discombobulated and rushed is probably them working on other shows on Glitch. After the Lawsuit arc was finished, they announced Murder Drones was getting a full season. Meta Runner Season 3 was also in the works during Revelations. It’s just a theory though.
I mean the arcs previously were mainly written be Kevin and not Luke so it would make sense why it’s not as good as the ones before hand.
3:26 it’s actually merch
I can understand your opinion, lemme tell you my opinion:
I think this arc was pretty good, I give it a 8/10.
It was pretty fun and I liked how they parodied the Nintendo's Strict Copyright Laws, also they made good chapters like the Splatoon 3 one or Breaking Luigi, these were so fun.
I can agree the weakest points by far are the waste of other characters like Bob or Boopkins, they used more Meggy, Mario, Luigi and SMG4 than the others, i'm sad Tari didn't had highlight. The redesigns are good but I feel they could been better after Revelations or Genesis Arcs, Boopkins redesign is godawful, Bob one is p cool.
But in the good points, comedy was so fun, I laughed a lot with the Nintendo jokes, Lawyer Kong was a funny villain, not the best one from SMG4, in my opinion Waluigi and SMG3 were better, but the lawyer was fun anyways, and Meggy being lawyer stole the show.
I love Meggy, both Inkling and Human form, and seeing her as a lawyer helping Mario and SMG4 in their fight to defend SMG4 property was awesome for me.
With the good points and the bad ones, I can say this is a good arc, I want to see what Luke and Kevin going to surprise us next time.
Okay I guess I'll go over the redesigns because yes
Smg4: looks fine but he doesn't fit with the rest of the characters in the show he looks more like a character from meta runner or sunset Paradise
Smg3: yeah basically the same thing although I do like it a little bit more but that could just come down to me liking smg3 as a character more than smg4
Bob: without a doubt the best the issue is I don't know if he's going to be expressive anymore and that's one thing I kind of liked about Bob's model
Fishy boopkins:
*GET THIS ABOMINATION OUT OF HERE WHO DESIGNED THIS AND THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THIS THING DESERVES TO BE BURNED WITH FIRE*
(sorry for being 2 weeks late youtube never recommended you to me until now)
I feel like some of the Wofti's could have been massively different, and there are easily ways to make this very interesting. An idea is something like this. Some kind of Monster comes into the smg4 world like a virus (Could be someone like Fatal error sonic to since the SMG's are in fact coded like entities which make someone like him dangerous.) and just casually consume everything, but not all at once. It would start as a the thing Befriending the cast as like a lost and broken entity until multiple people start disappearing, And it would actually be the Major Characters (SMG's 1st, then someone like Luigi, peach, toad, then last mario until most of the side characters) And the problem is that the entity keeps the upcoming victims attention off of it the dissapearing characters by doing activities. Then once it gets down to it, it could be 3 side characters (most likely Tarri, Saiko, and Melony since they are suppose to be important but get no attention anymore especially Tarri ever since Meta runner got canceled) to figure out the plan, which could in fact lead into an actual conflict when they try to find out what is going on, after all of this, someone like Melony would find what has happened to everyone and they would be corrupted. This is where their reality begins to fall apart slowly but not to the point where its easily noticeable, it would take a fairly smart to notice reality being corrupted. And this would be an amazing thing to add. A Choice, Like Markiplier's video. They can have a decision that would lead up in the story. And This could lead to the next episode by how many people chose it. The Bad ending actually makes the arc longer then it could/would be intended. This would in fact be a great idea since with a decision like that, we would not know what has happened. But This whole Arc would revolve around the villian winning or in fact getting close to winning. This would give a whole new idea of the channel being ran by the corrupted entity until WOFTI. But this would show a new concept/idea. War for the fat italians, This would make more sense since they are now saving mario and even SMG4. This could end with the villian winning if choice is wrong which could be an exciting plot building method in my opinion. (We all know that the options for melony would be Fight or Join so you really don't need to question it) Yes this seems pretty and i mean pretty stupid i know but some features would make it a bit more interesting
Bob looks dripy tho
Going to be honest this arc could have be better in the future because like the TH-cam arc it help give important elements to the Gensis arc so then for the next arc it could the Lawsuit arc could help the next arc for its foundation.
There could be a court trial then a challenge and slapping 4 resigns in 1 episode didnt work well
I love this arc and it’s easily my favorite.
Question, have you seen the other arcs?
@@mrjuicejunior yes
@@WesTheMes84 another question, why is it your favorite?
6 months later:
New skico looks like play doh. And new boobkins looks like a rubber grab.
"I developed this channel from absolute zero." While a bunch of SMG0 videos are shown.
Very clever
I pretty much look forward to the wotfis because of the songs
I have another sort of part 2/ New arc idea that smg4 could do. An Imposters arc based on the redesigns with them constantly advertising merch and crap on the smg4 website. But with the real Fishy boopkins, smg4, smg3, chained up in a prison somewhere (possibly run by the clown or a parody of a kids TH-camr) but then bob with some of the old characters release something’s off with Smg4 (possibly steve, Rob, swag and his brother or Toad) and now need to figure out how to get the info out without becoming trapped in the prison themselves.
Pros: More character development, something to deal with the crappy redesigns, something to do with bob. Cons: will probably just be another woti situation, seems fan fiction esc and something that an Impressionable kid would make after copying the users opinion (no offense) rather then a well thought out arc. Anyways it’s just my dumb idea put on internet but I do still think it would be a good concept.