WHAT MADE THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN SO AMAZING
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- The Amazing Spider-Man movies are known for being a mess behind the scenes and not living up to the legacy of the Sam Raimi / Tobey Maguire Spider-Man series.
While it may be a series with it's fair share of problems, it's also a series that had a bunch of -- for lack of a better word -- amazing moments.
So in preparing for the upcoming Spider-Man : No Way Home , we're going to go into the Spiderverse and check out Marc Webb 's 2 Spiderman films.
Let's find out what made The Amazing Spider Man SO Amazing.
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There's an interesting thing I've seen someone point out how Garfield's Peter is actualy a lot closer to the comics in terms of characterisation than the other two versions. The Reimi and MCU films both turn Peter into an aww shucks loveable doofas. As oppose to the Peter of the comics who was a snarky jerk with a bit of a temper. Which is an aspect of the character The Amazing films got down.
Also I remember reading that Stan Lee imagined Peter as a good looking nerd. He was a nerd, but he looked alright. Not necessarily punchable, but what made him the butt of his classmates’ jokes was his behaviour more than his looks. I think Andrew nailed both Peter and Spidey. He was/is really living his dream.
I think maybe the ultimate universe but the Main 616 universe mcu and raimi are closer
Andrew is thin and average, but still handsome (he's not some modelesque guy). It's essentially how Peter was drawn in the Ditko era. And you're right! He was a loner who was snarky and antisocial from the earliest page, it's why Flash and he didn't get along because Peter would snark at him even when Flash and his friends were asking him if he wanted to hang out with him. I love the Raimi movies, but the Raimi Peter WAS definitely given the personality of a lovable goofball, which wasn't exactly how he was in the comics (I give it a pass cause the movies were more lighthearted and him being so pure worked because it balanced it so well with having him also be a man whose responsibilities were weighing on him). And the MCU version is basically distilling his personality into "little cutie-pie" cause literally every line he says is meant to make you think of him as the wide-eyed innocent. That's literally what they want you to see him as and it doesn't exactly read MAN to me, it reads CHILD.
Agreed
@@alexbenitez7399 No they're not, as someone who's read both early versions of the character, Andrew is definitely the closest to the original 616 Peter, the MCU isn't fair behind though IMO.
I hope No Way Home has a nice sendoff for Andrew's Spidey. I know his films weren't the best. But I always liked him. I feel like he needed his final film atleast.
TASM1 was actually good
@@hoodiek6802 my favorite spidey movie
I would take these Spidey films than what we're getting now with IronBoy jr.
This version of Spider-Man becoming Spider-Man out of revenge isn't that bad because it gives him character development. He goes from being a vigilante on the search for revenge to being a hero trying to honor his uncle's memory and I like it.
And Tobey did the same thing
And it's further expanded nicely in no way home
They really did Garfield dirty by not letting him finish his story arc/trilogy.
Yeah, 2 was sloppy but so are a LOT of second movies in trilogies.
I would have loved to see how he coped with Gwen's loss and grew past it for part 3.
He did himself dirty. When sony wants to meet their spiderman you say what time?. He blew them off and we all got punished for his discretions
@@Dominocross44 he was sick and called in sick not his fault that he got sick
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 I think he also wasn't too pleased with how the 2nd film turned out and maybe wasn't thrilled about doing a 3rd.
See the reason I like the idea of this “Spider-Man out for revenge” is because in the context of this version of Spider-Man, he never really got that “with great power comes great responsibility” speech in the same way Toby did. When Ben spoke to Peter, Peter was angry, he wasn’t listening and never really had the chance to process Ben’s words, so when Ben died and his killer was never found he pointed his anger in finding Ben’s killer. Its not until the bridge scene that he realizes that his powers can be used for a greater purpose rather than benefiting himself and it’s a logical leap in the context of this universe, that isn’t too far off from what happened in the Raimi movies or the comics, the arc is just changed from happening in the course of one night into spanning weeks, either way, both arcs show us that this is when, where and why he really chooses to become Spider-Man.
I mean in away tobeys spiderman also went for revenge twice, inadvertently kill the guy in the first movie and went for revenge on flint Marco in the third
But having him just forget about it like it never happened is the dumbest thing, that’s poor writing
How come people hate Andrew spidey for chasing revenge then give Tobey a pass when he just killed the guy who killed uncle ben that's far more brutal than what Andrew ever did.
@@ninjanibba4259 He didn't forget about it, Peter was simply focusing on actually being a hero as Spider-Man, it's like you weren't paying attention.
So, the villain plotline in TASM1 essentially boils down to...
*"But Doctor Connors! With this technology we can cure cancer!"*
*"I don't want to cure cancer! I want to turn people into DINOSAURS!"*
*I like to look at this series as taking part in the “Ultimate Spider-Man” universe*
Same thing I said
Pretty much should been called The Ultimate Spider-Man
It is from the way Peter is in these films to the way uncle Ben spoke to him before his death the school fight with the lizard (even though it was green goblin in the comics) ect
Oh and also the way he broke things by accident when he gets his powers
@@markmagician2471 not really tbh. There are a fuck ton of differences. This is better as it's own thing
Something about Andrews performance as Peter Parker that I have to say is that it was definitely based off of the Ultimate Comics (as well as the overall story in general). That comic run worked to modernize the story of Spider-man to the modern day, and many aspects of those comics were adapted to these movies. Peter in this TASM couldn't be bullied for being a nerd because that hasn't been where most bullying comes from for a while by the time this movie came out. Having good grades no longer ostracized someone, so they needed to find a way to isolate Peter from others. So in this case, Peter is an outsider to others because he has some poor social skills, as well as having abandonment issues due to his parents leaving. No matter how good looking he is, no matter if his hair is styled and looks cool, no matter how popular you expect him to be just by appearance, he's still going to have those issues that isolates him from others.
On another topic regarding his skateboard, it does make some sense when you think about it. It's a cheap mode of transportation that's light and can be kept on him at all times (in case someone tries to steal it while he isn't looking). In the Coldplay scene, it makes some sense that he would start testing out his powers in different ways, including his skateboard. He could probably never do an Ollie or any tricks in general before the spider bite, so he experiments with his newfound abilities with familiar things.
In regards to the initial quest for vengeance, personally, I think it does check out as a Spider-man arc, because he isn't actually Spider-man yet. He has the costume, but in the same sense that he has the powers, he has everything there that can make him Spider-man, he's just missing that one piece that finishes the puzzle. In the typical origin, it's realizing his inaction against the thief was what got Uncle Ben killed, in TASM, it's that with just a hint of selfless values for helping others. After Ben is killed, it makes sense that selfless heroism isn't the first thing that comes to mind, all he's got going in his head is guilt and anger. And he genuinely believes hunting down this specific criminal counts as heroism, that it fulfills his dad's philosophy. But it isn't until he gets a reality check from Captain Stacy that he begins to think about what it is he's actually doing. And when he saves Jack he fully realizes just what he can become, what he can choose to be. At that moment, he truly *becomes* Spider-man.
Bro i love this comment i agree with you in everything 🔥
You typed this out really good bro, I fully agree
I knew I was gonna find someone who gets it..very well worded
P.S. Can you help me write my mid-term? 😆 jk
Fully agree! And on the topic of skateboarding, I love that was the way he tested his powers! It was such a clever idea!
I agree
I think this perception of Peter Parker is still clouded by Rami's version. Web's adaptation of the character feels a lot closer to how Stan wrote him. He's a flirty, witty, angry, decently attractive guy, and Andrew plays that really well.
Yep Andrew perfectly protrayed how every writer from Stan lee to Dan Slott. Though unlike in slotts run There's real heart in Andrews performance
1. Why would Raimi's version factor into what is essentially the character? To made it simple for you, find a video of Stan Lee talking to John Romita Sr. about SM, listen to how he describes the character, and walk off in shame. 2. No, it really doesn't, since I don't remember any skateboards in the comics Stan Lee wrote. I do remember Peter Parker working as a photographer for Daily Bugle trying to make some money to take care of himself and his aunt. Which doesn't really apply to Monsuier "I've never made a movie half as good as Evil Dead; I only make snotty dramedies" Webb. 3. Peter Parker wasn't "flirty" till he went into college. And flirty he was with his girlfriends, not random chicks. Witty? Tobey's Parker got the best joke in any capeshit, "Did your husband gave this to you?" Bodybag for Webb's PC Spidey right there. Angry? I suppose "Then stop pretending to be", or him almost killing the guy who murdered Uncle Ben, or him going after Goblin at the end, wasn't "angry". He should've had skateboard for that to be angry enough, I guess. Decently attractive? Are you saying Tobey Maguire isn't attractive? Then again, I'm a straight guy, so I don't really pay attention to how "decently attractive" my capeshit actors are, but I think a lot of women wouldn't mind letting him smash.
So, all in all, bad faith arguments all around.
@@antona.1327 You just don't know what you are talking about.
Peter did drive a motorcycle at one point, it's hardly any problem with Peter using a skateboard poorly before spider bite.
Andrew Garfield was much closer to the comics version of Spiderman and that's a fact.
i don't care what anyone says, over the years i realized that TASM movies portrays the heart and soul of Spider-Man, Tobey is the best Peter for sure but for me Andrew will forever be "The Spider-Man"
Peter Parker was never ugly, girls call him dreamy all the time, college girls swoon over him all time. Liz Allen, Betty Brant, Gwen Stacy all admit that Peter is good looking, even Johnny Storm's girlfriend wants to take a ride on his web shooter. Peter Parker is a shy, awkward kid for sure, but he is not ugly, he is an out cast because of his interests, not his appearance
I'm tired of people saying Andrew is the perfect Spidey and Tobey is the perfect peter and Tom is the best of both, Andrew is literally perfect as both , he nailed everything and I can't wait to see him in no way home, he will steal the show in my opinion
@@Krishna-kg2cl and he was right , andrew stole the whole show
Just my opinion. In some ways Andrew was more of a nerd than Tobey since Tobey's best friend was rich and Andrew... had no friends, he was a social outcast.
Being a social outcast isn’t like being a nerd at all, outcasts actually know the differences
Honestly I think all of the cool inventing he does helps to this too
By that token, CB Peter Parker is less nerdy, since, newsflash, him having a rich friend came from the comics.
@@antona.1327 Let's face it, whose going to get bullied when there best friend is that rich. It's like trying to bully Elon musk's son. So basically nothing makes sense.
@@antona.1327Later on in the story where he outgrew being a nerd
Aunt May from this series was awesome. She had a bit of hard tough mama bear in her that made her a bit more interesting than Toby Maguire’s Aunt May. And she too was a great Aunt May portrayal, she had that grandmotherly way of the character that we knew from the comics and animated series.
I definitely like her she felt like an actual Aunt
Name me one scene with her that's half as good as the scenes of Aunt May talking to Peter after the graduation. Funnily, there's a scene with TASM's Aunt May talking to Peter after the graduation in TASM2, and it's a joke.
The posters for this movie are literally s tier. Like remmeber the one where his shadow forms a huge spider logo ?? ICONIC, nowadays we get shitty Photoshop that looks worse than most fanmade posters
What's weird about Gwen versus MJ is that almost noone recognizes GWEN was the love of his life.
Mj in the sam raimi films was kinda 😬
I agree, I really like Mary-Jane as a character, but between the two main love interests that Peter Parker had, I am always going to go with Gwen as my favorite love interest for him. Even when he is with Mary-Jane, you can tell he still loves Gwen with all of his heart and if she had never died he would have married her. In fact in The House of M where Wanda gave people the life they wanted, Gwen never died, Peter married her, and they have a child together. Peter also has a tough time with wanting things to go back to normal because it would mean going back to a world where Gwen is dead.
@@morganyoung3557 Exactly!! The House Of M Story Speaks Volumes. Because Gwen Was Who Peter Wanted To Marry, But Mary Jane Is Who He Ended Up With.
I don't think the 616 comics ever made the romance work after Gwen's death. He and Gwen weren't written perfectly but I liked that she loved him for who he was as Peter and had things in common with him and the chemistry they had was cute. Had the writers allowed her to branch out of the "Kept in the dark love interest" role, it would have been a bold move rather than just killing her since she didn't get an opportunity to evolve past the role. After she died they thrust MJ into Gwen's role and the awkwardness never truly left. Frankly, the fact that Peter didn't chose MJ before Gwen died and they only got together through mutually grieving Gwen's death is just not very romantic. It's always going to put a damper on the relationship and it makes it SO bizarre when writers try to have Peter say, "You know MJ's my truest love," cause this is always going to exist in a world where he caused Gwen's death and feels like the writer forgetting that he has complex feelings for Gwen, a girl he lost at the height of his love for her and whose death wouldn't have happened had she not known him.
The writers also had to kind of overhaul MJ's traits since she was intentionally characterized as the shallow, thoughtless Veronica Lodge type for her early years (she was INTENTIONALLY written to be callous to Gwen and Harry in the early years) to make MJ the Betty Cooper-esque good girl Gwen Stacy embodied. THEN later they have her say she knew Peter was Spidey all along and that retcon just further made the idea of the relationship as a "romance" feel weird since she kept it from him. Her entire relationship with him feels like a hodgepodge of too many cooks.
It's why I prefer other interpretations which have the fortune of being written with prior works to take inspiration from. For all it's stumbles, I think the Raimi MJ comes off as fully realized from the start by Raimi and Kirsten. She's a girl who is from an abusive household who tries her best to be happy and not show her vulnerability. Peter loves her early on and sees that she's a sweet person. She's flawed and the relationship isn't perfect but it still feels like one I can say I root for and see the romance in more so than the comics.
@@jonrobinson5180 that's because Bendis doesn't understand Spider-Man. While I enjoyed Ultimate Spider-Man, it had none of the heart of 616 Peter.
I actually think that Andrew was the perfect Peter Parker he felt like a real teenage boy you can tell that he is socially awkward and unsure of himself which is how a teenager should be
Yep out of the three he's the one I relate to the most
I really wish people would stop saying "Andrew was too good looking to be Peter Parker". It's so old and tired, and I thought we'd all collectively realized in hindsight how wrong this is. Peter Parker was always good looking, or at the least not particularly unattractive. But he was a nerd and a social outcast, and a jerk at that. That's why when he actually tries he ends up with women like Gwen and MJ, and all the others. We only think Peter Parker shouldn't be super good looking because of Tobey Maguire. Just one of many things that came from the Raimi trilogy that people wrongly associate with the long history of the character.
Exactly taking off your glasses doesn't change your face just your appearance. Andrew Was an outcast and A need and a jerl everything comic accurate Peter was
Peter in the comics dated Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, Felicia Hardy, Bobbi Morse, Cindy Moon, Carlie Cooper, Carol danvers and Susan Storm. He also had a thing with black widow for a while.
Spiderman out for revenge literally was the 95 cartoon after uncle Ben was shot. And he realized he didn't help when he could've and caused the death that changed him as a hero
The Amazing Spider-Man was a solid film, but the sequel was rather lousy. The saddest part of it is there were all the elements to make the sequel a fantastic movies, but to many elements did not come together. I agree for the most part all the actors did a very fine job with the material that they were given.
Tobey donned his “Human Spider” mask to hunt down Uncle Ben’s killer out of revenge in the first Raimi film. And he didn’t seem too remorseful after he saw how that dude ended up.
Sony and Marvel should finish Andrew Garfield's triology with The Amazing Spider-Man 3. Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin is insane!!
What I find ironic about the first Amazing Spider-man movie is that even though it was portrayed as more "grounded and realistic", it chose the Lizard as its main villian. Like for consistency imagine if they had the Vulture (played by Ed Harris perhaps) who wants to take it to Norman Osborn like spectacular Spider-man in terms of reasoning but also for revenge for the murder of his best friend Richard Parker. He would then take Peter and use him as a weapon, almost like a dark father figure. With that change alone you could have made it more "personal and grounded".
Agreed. All of the villains we got in these films are terrible looking, poorly written and completely go against the supposedly grounded feel of the films.
@@theserpent8667 That's your opinion on it.
PS, the villains were generally accurate to the comics(electro was based on Ultimate)
@@prufan But with shit looking designs and most of the scenes to flesh out their motivations removed?
I LOVE the arc in the first film. The fact that he starts off wanting revenge is COMPLETELY ACCURATE TO HIS FIRST APPEARANCE! Let’s not forget that in his debut, Peter Parker was an asshole with a giant chip on his shoulder. He also became Spider-Man for very selfish means. Him finally becoming a hero on the bridge scene is 100% in keeping with his character. And anyone that says it doesn’t seem like Spider-Man is just wrong. Because that is exactly what Spider-Man was in his comic origin. He wanted vengeance. And learned later on that being a hero is what Ben would have wanted. I think people who say his arc is unfaithful in this movie really aren’t the true fans they claim to be.
It also makes me wonder if people forget in Tobey's trilogy he wanted revenge as well even caused the guys death
@@elishawilson5342 people think that just because Tobey didn’t have the classic suit whereas Andrew did when hunting for the killer that means he didn’t become spider man for revenge. In tasm Peter never calls himself Spider-Man until he actually starts acting like Spider-Man which was when he saves the boy on the bridge that is when he became Spider-Man, just because he made the classic suit doesn’t mean he was ready yet
@@impulse5674 what does that have anything to do with my comment
@@elishawilson5342 exactly he literally went after the guy he thought killed Uncle ben then went after Flint marco
@@hoodiek6802 Ikr yet people wanna hate on Andrew for it when that is Spiderman's origin to begin with they're just biased
I'm so happy people are finally coming around to these movies. I've loved them since they came out. I think andrew is the perfect Spidey, and tobey is the perfect peter
they suck so bad.
Ive loved em as well
Garfield says specifically in interviews that the people making the film were in no way interested in having a good plot or character development and that it was heartbreaking for him to be in those movies. If you think these movies are good then not even spiderman himself agrees with you.
@@aroccoification Garfield is a good actor. He proved this more than once. He deserves better than those crappy spider man movies. And all people saying that writing in the Marvel one is awful and then defending this shit is beyond ridiculous.
TBH Toby really wasn't all that great a Peter, atleast when it comes down to being a representation of the comics. Toby was just to much of a doof to be comic Peter.
Still to this day my favorite Spidey film is ASM 1. Garfield was made for the role. His sarcasm was perfect. His athleticism really made him seem like he had the agility of the comics and behaving like an actual spider was just great. Him using the webs to "sense his prey" and crawling all over Lizard as he webs him is just so incredibly cool and spidery. I have watched many, many classic and modern romance movies and Garfield and Stone's relationship on screen here is arguably in the talks for the greatest on screen couple ever.
All these things aside though, the scene where Spidey saves the child in the hanging SUV is the most perfect encapsulation of Spider-Man's character ever put to film. Every single time i watch it, it moves me.
Keep up the awesome work! You can see the effort and work put into each episode.
Underrated film tbh. Amazing Spider-Man 2 did have a couple good things but not as a whole
disagree
The deleted scenes make the movies whole
I hate how this channel doesn’t have as many subscribers as it should have. It’s amazing and gets me through my day of stress.
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MARC WEBB is amazing, and people should NOT blame him for the failure of this franchise
They should blame AVI ARAD
Garfield was and still is criminally underrated; give me shit all you want but he's loads better than Holland. Maybe that's an unfair assessment since it's not Holland himself, but more on the shit take the MCU has on the character, as well as its writing.
Side note: The suit in TASM 1 was so awesome: it looked... realistic? Gritty? Something about it... I hated how they changed it in TASM 2, it looked so cartoonish in comparison.
Really? I actually hated the first movie's suit because of how smooth it looked. No Spider-Man suit should ever look this smooth in my opinion.
Tobey is my fav but i’ll take Garfield over Holland any day of the week.
Gotta say, I wish they'd gone through with their original plan to put this Spider-Man in the MCU. He has so much more story to tell. I like Tom Holland but Andrew Garfield plays the Spider-Man I grew up with.
Exactly
Mcu wanted him but Sony wanted him fired instead
I always liked Spider-Man growing up but the first Amazing Spider-Man movie is what made me a true fan. I always felt they were using the later comics when Peter was in college as a basis for the character even when he was in HS so I can get why some classic comic fans wouldn't enjoy that but for a nerdy kid in HS when that movie came out Garfield's Peter/Spider-Man was an aspirational character
Beautiful, beautiful, what an outstanding video.
I personally LOVED THESE MOVIES (imperfect but still great and deserved a conclusion). Andrew is my favorite Spider-Man of the 3. These movie seemed like they had stakes, great casting & most realistic approach. Andrew's Spider-Man is the closest comic wise with his wit and charisma. His Peter was also good IMO.
😂 I agree with you Vee
Facts
@@hoodiek6802 yessir
Realistic and comic accurate seems like an oxymoron when we speak of Spider-Man, lad. Especially when we factor in what the second movie was.
Vee, as a Spider-Man and Batman fan for nearly 30 years, I GENUINELY enjoy yours, Alex of HiTop Films', and Patrick Willems', video essays about said characters.
I would absolutely love to see you three work together to create a series of approximately 60 minute long videos about all the good things and all the bad things about the four Burton-Schumacher Batman movies and the five Raimi and Webb Spider-Man movies. Formated like you three were trying to make a college-PHD thesis about how they are misunderstood
Alex likes WW84 and Willems thinks plot holes don't matter. I think you need new heroes in your life, man
@@Jordie_42 TASM has plot holes and morally bad decisions made by the titular hero. I think you need better Spider-Man movies, man. May I suggest Spider-Man by Sam Raimi? The hero is actually a decent human being who doesn't betray trust of dead people and doesn't try to win over chicks by telling them his cool secret that might get them in danger.
The first Amazing Spider-Man is still my favorite Spidey movie. I also really liked Garfield. He reminded me a lot of the Peter Parker from the 90's cartoon, a little awkward but also had more game then her realized.
Thank you
Tasm 1 or Rami 2.
I personally want Marc webb to release his cut of the TASM films and make TASM3
I like the two Amazing Spider Man movies better than the three that came before them.
Mannn I wish they did an amazing Spiderman 3 this series is the best ever top 5 all time
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Love amazing Spider-Man. The second film though was a mess due to them trying to setup several other films. But your right Andrew Garfield was really good as Spidey. Think he acted bit too confident as Peter though. Emma stone was awesome too. The web swinging is awesome in this best of any of the series of films especially at beginning of amazing Spider-Man 2
Every Peter is different
Another thing from the Raimi trilogy people wrongly attribute to being at the heart of the character, Peter Parker was not always the sweet hearted dork who does good right away. Before the bite he was a jerk, and even after, he had plenty of developing to do as a person. He's not a saint before the powers, and he's not a hero as soon as he gets them, either.
I liked the Harry Osborn in ASM2 as a believable character. At least up until he becomes the Goblin. They went way too over the top with it, and I don't know if we should blame him or the writing. Outside of that, I liked and believed it.
You liked the "You're a fraud, Spider-Man!" scene? I didn't. Harry's intelligence is so inconsistent in the film. One moment he magically forgets that he has billions and a team of world class geneticists who could process the blood into a cure, and the next, he's instantly able to master the armour, yet we don't know (without the deleted scene) why he actually wants it. And then the Green Goblin was a f*cking disaster. I say that they should have gone all the way and made him a hulking goblin beast, not that disgusting halfway excuse for a design we got. And have him look through the records to find out that the spiders were bonded to Richard Parker's DNA, and that's how he discovers Peter's secret identity.
You made a pretty damn good case for all of the good elements of The Amazing Spider Man movies
Love that Vee talks about the good of these movies. Also: The Not So Amazing Spider-Man.
The Amazing spiderman
That's what I liked with these movies. They made all of the characters very believable. And I loved that.
Gwen’s death still hit hard I remember tearing up between these movies and spectacular I really love the Gwen character and I want at least a side story were she lives
I know it doesn't exist, but if there was a cut of TASM 2 where Peter finally saved Gwen from falling to her death it would've been incredibly cathartic and beautiful cause the scene of him attempting to save her was gorgeously executed. I think the reason they never made a 3rd TASM movie was because the 2nd movie ended in tragedy. Good as the movie was, the audience is not going to feel satisfied leaving the theater feeling upset. The audiences loved the chemistry and the movie's take on Gwen. The fact that the audience had only a brief montage to get over the heartbreak was jarring. If the death scene happened in the middle of a 3rd movie where the Green Goblin gets full focus MAYBE but at the tail end of a 2nd movie in a franchise where Electro is the primary threat was pushing it. Personally, I don't think Gwen has to die in versions of Spider-man anymore cause it leaves Gwen to be less explored when she's a character who can work well without being set up to die.
I wish Andrew’s hair in the movie was a more dorky bowl cut like in the original screen test
No
Great video Vee. Seriously, well written and thought out. All the while you keep it honest.
You even snuck in a wrestling reference 😃 calling Spidey a WCW "jobber". I see what you did there.
34:48 Couldn't agree more! Great point.
Looking forward to your next video 👍
When Gwen falls, the clock stops at 1:21....the same issue of the Amazing Spider-Man comic she dies in.
I still think these are the best live-action Spider-Man movies
Yet again you Vee you killed it hit it on the nose really underrated spidey lol funny bad in 2015 I thought he was gonna be the mcu spidey and was so disappointed when he got fired but with crazy how things come full circle with the new one coming out... BtW The "Not So" Amazing Spiderman
Great Video. Glad Someone Finally Gets TASM & Andrew Garfield's Performance. He Gave A Different Take On Peter Parker, But Gave A Spot On Performance As Spiderman. From His Leaner Build Being More In Line With Ditko's Drawings & Especially With The Quips Andrew Was The BEST Live Action Spider-Man!!!
Gwen's death was so well made. We all loved her, and we got to see such death, unforgettable. Definetly that's what stands out of both movies.
Him donning the suit to go after Uncle Ben's killer is something I totally get why people have an issue with. However, in the original comics, he got the suit as his uniform when he started taking on wrestling to make money. So, in both instances, he suited up for selfish reasons. Also, in the Tobey movies, he used his makeshift suit to go after his uncle's killer as well. Still understand why people can have issues with it, but to me it's not too far off from the character
I always saw this peter as an Ultimate Spider-Man peter where he isnt a 90's nerd who keeps getting bullied for being so but instead he's just socially awkward, and it's definitely realistic to assume that he's bullied because of it. You don't get popular off of just looking good especially if you can barely form casual conversation
Also on the point of the revenge story, it's a core paert to the character and origin of Spider-man, especially in these movies. Toby did it for about half the movie as well, but especially here, it works. This is peter's lesson learned in a realistic way, someone tried to tell him before but he was angry and ignorant and it isn't until a dinner with Gwen's father and when he is put into a situation where he could either catch the giant lizard or save the kid stuck in a car. And it's no coincidence that these scenes come one after another. Until he eventually realizes who he is and what he wants to do with his power
I don’t always agree with you but you do a good job of articulating your talking points. Another dope video
Great vid bro
The Not So Amazing Spider-Man! I love your take on these, great videos!
Ok I’m glad u agree that the goblin design was sweet. Cuz I rlly like Dane Dahaans goblin as well
Andrew did a great job in No Way Home. He stole every scene he was in. People went crazy at my cinema when he showed up. Welcome back, dude.
While I don't love these movies as much as Raimi's series, I'm still happy to see people talking about them in a positive light :)
Great review!
5:16 nah, Peter Parker IS good looking. Stan Lee even said it himself. That’s why he got girls like MJ, Gwen and Felicia (more so the first two, seeing as Felicia never really saw him without the mask)
Really enjoying your commentary about these Spiderman movies
Great video 🔥🔥❤️
I really like Dane DeHaan as Harry If he would’ve got more scenes with Peter and more scenes with Felisa and more development he could’ve been great
What bugs me about this sudden love of Andrew and the Amazing series, is that it seems like bandwagoning. My wife and my best friend and I all loved the Amazing series from the jump. And to this day, Andrew's Spidey is my absolute favorite. It just seems like people are hyped for NoWayHome and so they are pretending to love a series they shat on for a decade.
I see how you feel tbh, but I feel like this might have just been a long time coming; people were mad at the reboot, and had their perception of the characters changed from the source material thanks to the Raimi trilogy, so this version ended up getting a ton of shit for things it didn't do wrong accuracy-wise, unlike some of the flaws, especially the ones TASM2 had. I've always loved these movies too, and do wish we didn't get a second reboot.
So are people not allowed to changer their minds? Why do you just assume that it is not genuine? You don't know those people or what goes on in their head. Why not just be happy that the Amazing movies are appreciated more now?
I used to not like the prequels but have since come to really enjoy; more than the OT even. The only part the sequels played in that was I went back to watch the old stuff before TLJ came out. I hadn't seen the old movies in years so I decided why not. I found that I enjoyed the prequels more than I previously had.
Andrew Garfield kicked ass as Spiderman definitely my favorite spiderboy
I don’t care what anyone says, that’s my 2nd favorite on screen suit behind Rami’s
Can we all just take a moment and point out that Garfield always looks stoned AF in these movies?
Hearing u go over the amazing Spider-Man 2 made me find sum love for it👌🏾
The 1st Amazing Spider-Man film is probably the most true to the character from the comics out of all others. The 2nd one was pants though.
It's nothing more than a shallow attempt to cash in on then-popular grimdark aesthetic popularized by the superior superhero films made by Nolan, only to be neither good as grimdark reboot or a Spider-Man movie. Rami's Spider-Man is objectively more true to the comics, quit living in LA LA Land. The existence of Daily Bugle and Peter's work as a photographer alone makes it so.
@@antona.8659 The Amazing Spider-Man is faithful tonewise to McFarlane's Spider-Man: Torment which was a darker take and had the Lizard as the villain.
Andrew Garfield Is my favorite live action spiderman the first movie is so good and while the second movie wasn't the best it had its bright spot I was crushed that we never got a third movie
TASM are my favorite! I could go on all day about everything I love about these films! Everyone gives them so much crap for going out for revenge. I think it works perfectly and makes sense for this angsty teenage character. Comeon, he’s not a perfect idealist like Superman or Captain America. He’s a flawed kid, he’s human. I related to Andrew Garfield’s Peter and Spider-Man not only more than any of the Spidermen, but more than any fictional character put to screen!
Spider-Man in the 1990’s show starts for greed and then revenge in the various flashbacks. I have always believed that was a solid and realistic ark for a teenager given such great power. Before the tragedy of losing his uncle Ben, Peter didn’t know to direct that great power toward something unselfish and greater than himself.
This origin completely works for me. Garfield was and is my favorite Spider-Man and still a solid Peter Parker. Garfield was just in an overstuffed movie run by an overzealous production company trying to jumpstart a shared universe.
I remembered Stan Lee said just because Peter was a nerd didn’t mean he was unattractive he just made Peter with the nerdy qualities that made him odd guy out but Peter had a bunch of women he dated only thing he lacked before the spider bite was confidence being spidey helped with that so he started shooting his shot more
But vee Tobey goes out for revenge as well and his killer, or then one he thought killed Ben died!!!
But it wasn't the reason why he became Spider-Man
@@hud56 Andrew becomes spiderman when he saves the kid.
@@hud56 Doesn't matter he went after Sandman when he found out he killed uncle ben as Spiderman
The clock tower thing is even more on the nose considering it lands on 1:21. The issue Gwen dies in.
I really love Peter’s arc in the first movie. The way I see it, and the way I believe the movie did it, is that Peter doesn’t become Spider-Man until after saving the boy in the bridge. Because that is the first time he is called Spider-Man. It feels more natural to me because of how grief often blinds you. And I believe Peter was blinded by the grief to release what Ben would’ve wanted. And didn’t see that until he actually saved a life.
I also like how Peter is. Because I can relate a lot to him. Peter is smart but doesn’t show it to everyone. I wasn’t at the same level in High School but I didn’t show the intelligence I had. Peter is more or less and outsider because he is socially awkward which I can relate to. It was often the same for me. Personally, Peter is made really well with the same idea but a new execution to make it feel fresh
This makes me happy. I think that those two movies are criminally underrated. They have some problems, but also so much good stuff, that they are for me the best live action Spidey-Movies. I hate the Raimi-Trilogy, because I hate this super campy style and I especially hate every dialogue between Peter and MJ. They have some good stuff like Dafoe and Doc Ock, but overall I never really liked the Raimi movies. The stuff that I don't like in this movie are just bigger than the little flaws the ASM movies have. The MCU movies are alright, but there I really don't like that the movies feel like Iron Boy and less like Spider-Man movies. But the best Spider-Man movie by far is the Into The Spider-Verse. That movie is an almost perfect superhero movie.
The more time passes the more you realize just how corny Raimi was with Spider-Man
I think Garfield does a really good job as Peter there's a lot of like a understated anger and frustration to his presentation and a lot of that is straight from the early comics
I feel like it's worth mentioning that Peter in his high school years under the pen of Steve Ditko WAS a lot like Andrew's portrayal. He wasn't ever an ugly guy, he was plain and on the skinny side but still handsome. Andrew's a very average looking guy and his take on Peter was shown to be a loner who doesn't socialize, but has a smart-mouth. His snark is why Flash and he clashed. It suits the movie version of him. Giving him a "stands up to bullies" side before being bit by the spider is also nice cause it shows that before he becomes strong he hates to see the strong attack the vulnerable. He works well as Peter Parker AND Spider-man, people just want to say he wasn't to play it off like the MCU version does something better than either of the versions that came before it when in reality the MCU version is the least like the comics in every single way. The Raimi version is more Romita era than Ditko but it was also very comic accurate with the money issues and college era love triangle and the Green Goblin narrative. What does the MCU version have that has anything in common with the comics by comparison?
And while I'm on a tangent, the Raimi MJ was pretty comic accurate to MJ too. The abusive home life, the fact that she acts like she's a happy girl to the world but is secretly very insecure and a hopeless romantic. I guess people whine that the left out the way the comicbook version showed up acting like a haughty little number yelling, "Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot!" but being real here: Would anyone want THAT to be the woman a hero ends up with? A lady who announces that she's out of his league and thinks of herself as a total hottie? Raimi distilled the best aspects of MJ's backstory and made her relatable. She made mistakes but she does love Peter and I feel like it goes unappreciated.
No, Rami set out to assassinate the character of MJ. He hit all the same story beats, but he missed the heart of the character as without her knowing from the very beginning that Peter is Spider-Man without him knowing is a key aspect of her character as it explains why she was okay with him always ditching her she was able to play it off like she just didn't really care she was just dating casually but deep down she knew it was because Peter had to go be a hero. Well I love that line it doesn't really work without doing the whole oh Peter doesn't want to meet her bit
@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 Honestly, I appreciate what they tried to do with the "I've ALWAYS known" retcon because it is a compelling idea had it been planned all along, but to me it really felt like the comics had it as such a late-in-the-game retcon that asks you to bear with a lot of inconsistent things going on with the logic of her keeping it from him and I think people ended up doing that cause it ultimately fast-tracks things. I personally like the idea but not the execution, but it's not really something that could be pulled off when that many writers didn't have that intent all along.
Sam Raimi's MJ not knowing the secret identity is the primary difference and it is an interesting one to speculate on why they decided to omit it. Personally, I wonder if it's cause the retcon was in a comic after the run that Raimi had the most fond memories of reading as a boy. Plus it makes the big reveal when he does tell her feel like it matters cause HE lets her in on his secret with a big coming out moment. When you think about it logically it should really be epic when a hero finally lets their true love see them for who they truly are.
That's why I think Tom Holland does such a great job, he plays both the Peter and Spider-Man side so well
Tobey literally went after the guy he thought killed Uncle ben and he literally scared him to his death.And when he found out flint Marco killed uncle ben he went after him so Andrew wasn't far off at all
Also, that bit where Denis Leary unmasks Peter is odd because over and over it's been established that Pete can stick the mask to his face just like he sticks to walls.. but I'm just being dorky now.
I didn't know he could do that
Oh man I see so many things wrong with that lol, like if his spiderweb are synthetic, does he use it on his face like super glue....if a bad guy ripped his mask too damn fast 😳 😂
@@sevenapollo6882 yeah I have never seen that happen in a comic or cartoon oh, so it's news to me
I love The amazing Spider-Man movies, they are my favorite. Tom holland is second. Peter is amazing and so is Spider-Man, I just love… everything about them, OTHER THAN CRACKHEAD GOBLIN!
Hold on? Who says Peter Parker is ugly/unattractive?
Sure, geeky before he gets bitten. Glasses, socially awkward and unsure of himself but I don't think being 'unattractive' is a prerequisite of a Peter Parker. Even ditko didn't draw him as ugly. His Peter was just a bit of a straight laced square with John Lennon glasess
Also I wonder how Tom Holland falls into that theory.....
The Amazing Vee Infuso should make a video about the not so Amazing Spider-Man.
You know it sucks that they wouldn't let him do the third Spider-Man, knowing how passionate he was playing Spider-Man. I know he was sick the day they wanted to announce it, but sickness is common when you do travel. I really wish they would have understood and still let him do the third movie. I would have done a bigger series with Andrew. I'm proud of him for doing the two he did.
Man you've got to go back and read the '60s Spider-Man comics, that out for revenge and selfish intentions stuff is all over his original origin, he learns to be more selfless and he's shaped into the Spider-Man we know now.
The Amazing Spider-Man is a depressing movie but still really enjoyable to see with friends
Man I love these movies
I never had a problem with the clock ticking to Gwen's death, I had a problem with Peters web reaching out towards her like it's an outstretched hand.
There’s a handful of comics where Peter wasn’t nerdy and he was good looking
The problem I have with Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man is yeah he does make really funny jokes but he's doing it when people are dying that rhino scene in the beginning so many people are dying and he's just cracking jokes that's just not Spider-Man to me
This so much. It turns into a stand up comedy bit at some points and it also just brings the movies to a screeching halt
Personally, I love these movies, and despite their flaws, they capture the character the most accurately IMO. I'm going to copy and paste other comments that explain why I love these movies really well lol:
- There's an interesting thing I've seen someone point out how Garfield's Peter is actually a lot closer to the comics in terms of characterization than the other two versions. The Raimi and MCU films both turn Peter into an 'aww shucks lovable doofas' (Raimi does this to a really severe, annoying extent IMO). As opposed to the Peter of the comics who was a snarky jerk with a bit of a temper. Which is an aspect of the character The Amazing films got down. Another thing from the Raimi trilogy people wrongly attribute to being at the heart of the character, Peter Parker was not always the sweet hearted dork who does good right away. Before the bite he was a jerk, and even after, he had plenty of developing to do as a person. He's not a saint before the powers, and he's not a hero as soon as he gets them, either.
- I LOVE the arc in the first film. The fact that he starts off wanting revenge is COMPLETELY ACCURATE TO HIS FIRST APPEARANCE! Let’s not forget that in his debut, Peter Parker was an asshole with a giant chip on his shoulder. He also became Spider-Man for very selfish means. Him finally becoming a hero on the bridge scene is 100% in keeping with his character. And anyone that says it doesn’t seem like Spider-Man is just wrong. Because that is exactly what Spider-Man was in his comic origin. He wanted vengeance. And learned later on that being a hero is what Ben would have wanted. I think people who say his arc is unfaithful in this movie really aren’t the true fans they claim to be.
- In regards to the initial quest for vengeance, personally, I think it does check out as a Spider-man arc, because he isn't actually Spider-man yet. He has the costume, but in the same sense that he has the powers, he has everything there that can make him Spider-man, he's just missing that one piece that finishes the puzzle. In the typical origin, it's realizing his inaction against the thief was what got Uncle Ben killed, in TASM, it's that with just a hint of selfless values for helping others. After Ben is killed, it makes sense that selfless heroism isn't the first thing that comes to mind, all he's got going in his head is guilt and anger. And he genuinely believes hunting down this specific criminal counts as heroism, that it fulfills his dad's philosophy. But it isn't until he gets a reality check from Captain Stacy that he begins to think about what it is he's actually doing. And when he saves Jack he fully realizes just what he can become, what he can choose to be. At that moment, he truly becomes Spider-man.
- I really wish people would stop saying "Andrew was too good looking to be Peter Parker". It's so old and tired, and I thought we'd all collectively realized in hindsight how wrong this is. Peter Parker was always good looking, or at the least not particularly unattractive. But he was a nerd and a social outcast, and a jerk at that. That's why when he actually tries he ends up with women like Gwen and MJ, and all the others. We only think Peter Parker shouldn't be super good looking because of Tobey Maguire. Just one of many things that came from the Raimi trilogy that people wrongly associate with the long history of the character.
as in his comic origin. He wanted vengeance. And learned later on that being a hero is what Ben would have wanted.
The best thing about TASM films is they show that Spiderman really isn't Superman. Spidey getting shot, the cranes being moved so he can swing, his webbing having limits, not being able to catch Gwen, the fact that he was never able to beat the Lizard (he never did, he was just able to switch out the chemical in the dispenser, not actually beat Lizard in a fight). He has super powers, but they have their limits.
I find it amusing talking about The amazing Spider-Man movies is the tie in amazing Spider-Man video games with the first one continuing plot points from the first film