I love how they take the piss out of their backers. A creature named fucking copium, space whales and now milking space cows. Yet, 12 years of alien week sales without a single alien in game. All sand and no fucking worm.
Can't I think he moved the company to the UK to avoid this, in the US he would've been sued for fraud and they do have a couple lawsuits they are trying to hide right now I believe.
Jared Huckaby plays a similar role for Chris Roberts as Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, also known as "Baghdad Bob," did for Saddam Hussein, acting as a spokesperson or representative.
With all the stuff they've made. Where Banu, Xian, Vanduul those bird people? No Mans Sky has NPC and playable alien characters. CiG has no excuse for this!
SC is advertised just like fast food. You see a picture/video of an amazing looking burger 🍔 then your order arrives and it's a soggy bun, 1 pickle, a litre of ketchup and some grey "meat" 🤮
Yeah, I really give a shit about how my character looks when I wear armor and a fucking helmet all game. I'd prefer they focus on game loop-focused helmet HUDs and armour that actually give you benefits when using them. Eg. specialest cargo trader armour that has built-in tractor beam functionality 🤯
Imagine if world of warcraft or no man's sky or guild wars would make a video every time they make a stupid creature on the game! Sc is the big joke on us from the 21 century.
Funny how hello games keeps adding tons of stuffs to no man's sky including a freaking sandworm while cig just started to brag about adding cows 12 years later.
LAME! I will not be waiting for the cows to come home....I have moved on from this bad bad bad, paid beta. Give me a break, Starfeild has created more creatures than you can shake a stick at, and we are suppose to feel sooooooooo privilege to get ONE COW in Star Citizen. Lol sure whatever! A whole podcast that has to be spent on one animal proves how low content this sorry game is.
Anyone remember when they dedicated a whole show on trolleys and literally had a whole patch cycle dedicated to said trolleys only to have it kill people whilst using them ... where are the trolleys now ??? Months and months wasted on something that's so trivial that's not even in the game anymore. They will dedicate months on a cow and probably delay patches for it.... pretty much sums us CIG.
So with all the vastness of the universe and all of the possible permutations of life forms that could've evolved through different timelines, CIG creativity s limited by North American continent animals in the Anthropocene Epoch, only.
Hey GEM, I think you should try a new game that just dropped called Star Trucker, maybe you already know of it. I knew it was coming out but I thought it would just be an ok indie title. I am actually pleasantly suprised by the content, polish, and creativity. Dont think Ive had a single frame drop on max settings. and the game is just beautiful. It has space hauling missions, and even solid engineering gameplay. I think you will like it far better than Star Citizen right now.
I uninstalled SC around 18 months ago, frustrated. Two days ago I reinstalled it to see how much it has improved. I think I will be uninstalling again and pop back in another 18 months.
Stopped playing on 3.17.1, made pause till 7 days ago, installed it, died in hangar due to nothing as my ship just randomly bugged into the station, them experiemced server response times from over 15 seconds, died in the subway of lorville for no reason as the trains started to disappear and de-symced, finally made my way to asop terminals, experiemced no response amd deleted the game as im not interested in any features if the game is literally bricked. Aah amd btw....fps didnt improve as they all said. Pretended to work so epically good in process management but that was just another lie.
Wait till 4.0 and more realistically after 4.0 has fixed its major bugs. I get it but lets be real, every new patch is new and has growing pain since all there tech is new and needs bug fixing. So do what i do and just check in now and then and follow the news. Its still gonna be a long ride till server meshing is fully intergrated sometime after 4.0
The cow shitting a person was an Ace Ventura reference... People wanted progress updates, now they have to devote time to make them. In this case, probably didn't have the time because yknow... huge updates coming. Haters gonna hate
I wish they would make the cities and outpost more alive. More NPCs to talk to. Or stuff to do in the cities, bars, casinos, just more to do. Maybe make it so we can buy apartments in the cities or make our own place out on some planet or moon somewhere.
@@THEMALBINO it's a good show. It's funny. It's not the right time to show off the said topic. Like tell me when the tech is going to be in. Who gives a shit about space cows? I like this as a meme edit. But put this on a weekly show that is supposed to show development progress is just... Why?
Ya that is trash... We just needed some wild life to make the areas believable. But bugged out do nothing creatures is not the answer. Because everything happens at the SERVER side it all runs like crap and they cannot fix that I don't think. You need some load on client side.
I made a comment awhile ago on the forums about how all they do is talk with fluff and promotionals when the actual game is nothing like that, that was years ago. They literally haven't changed, incredible!
Until you fall thru the floor. Or randomly explode. Or get kicked out into space mid-quantum jump. Or get stuck in a chair or bed. Or get disconnected and you reappear back in your hab. Or one of the many many other issues. So even something as simple as walking around the ships doesn't work 12 years in.
They adding garbage so they seem like there busy on the game. Just fix the things we have or did have that they took away. As you say, NMS sky do it great, why can’t they manage it after million’s payed by players.
What I find amazing and to CIG's credit is how they get content creators to work for free. Take a look at how many times the above video is reposted and commented on, mostly favorably. I think the key thing eveyone is missing is SC is basically the financial means for Chris' movie - Squandron 42. The bait has worked for so long why change. The sad thing is those responsible for the above shows are trying to keep things interesting. This is how they are creatively keeping their jobs.
It's painfully obvious CGI has no clue how to ever make this game run smoothly let alone be playable in a finished or polished state. All they can do is hype the bs and hope you buy the next shinny object... I mean "ship" that goes on sale so they can pretend like progress is being made.
At the rate of development now it would take another 30 years to get anywhere near a coherent gaming experience with the many fleshed out careers CIG advertised. And that is assuming they can get SM working to a level where the AI actually function with thousands of players playing together. But CR says 1.0 in 2025? 🤠
they SHIT in the players FACES and tell them "Its chocolate " .. good lord , stop the simping for CIG . you only make CR richer and richer .. u will never get anything.
let us not forget that roberts true talent lies in producing videos and selling a story i am not surprised at all by the state of the game i was original target audience for the dude, veteran of elite (original one) and wing commander, someone that played freelancer with enthusiasm lamenting the "why didn't they let him finish" in a willful attempt to defend him when elite dangerous and star citizen hit the talk and started with early backing, i was in conflict with both myself and my friends (that grew up with me on the same influences). i was the only one that decided to back elite while they all bought expensive early packs for sc i am still playing elite dangerous, they turned on sc maybe a dozen times at this point, whatever frontier development releases as an expansion to elite dangerous, i will buy without a second thought roberts could not get me to buy the cheapest pack even if the game was released in full by tomorrow
nothing works, no npc moves at all but sure, the stupid cows will have a complete lifecycle with pray/hunt simulation like it has never been before... lets get you back to bed grandpa robbers
Days like these im glad I didnt spend very much in this game. They keep adding stuff we dont need instead of fixing the game so basic physics and other game play loops work. No here is a space cow that will do nothing. Here are tatoos and other trash. I got into the game 3 years ago and waited for there to be actual transport missions. Finally it came. I got in and poof it didnt work couldnt get my cargo. Should have uninstalled
Star citizen is a scam!!! Life waster!!!! Cows seriously… you can’t fix basic things…!!! Dude… start citizen is literally laughing at you as you pay to play.
Even arena commander works bad...and they dont need SM for that. Racing check points are not working, desync in all race tracks (even in offline mode) . Do you want to change component? You have to go back to main menu constantly to make it work ...been allways likes this. If they dont even know how to make AC works..shame on them.
Those birds are like fat cooked.... those cows look like half eaten... the designers of these have no good experience making these things. The dogs are like... one artist made the head, and another artist force the body that don't fit the design.
I mean this is just sad. When you look at what No Mans Sky has delivered to their players just this year compared to Star Citizen its like a night and day difference. It gets even worse when you factor in Hello Games is doing it with less people and resources. And the cherry on top is NMS is giving it all away for FREE! Meanwhile this kickstarter from 2012 continues to bleed their backers for every dollar they can. Shameful display.
Was thinking the exact same thing. I'm looking at these animals and while the high quality renders look neat, they're just animals. NMS and other games are full of them. NMS animals are randomly generated, but some attack, they graze and eat, they fly around. I mean what is CIG doing? This stuff should be basic to the game, and not even worth mentioning.
@@Bastiondar in NMS you can give some creatures food and even take them as a pet to follow you or summon them later. Starfield has a bunch of creatures also. They can fight eachother or attack you. You can also have them fight by your side with your powers. With mods you can even have them as pets. Other than nice spaceships you can seamlessly enter and exit SC just doesn't have much else.
@@mercenum5186 oh yeah i know all about NMS. got about 520 hours in it heh. Didn't know about starfield though, but animals is such a basic thing. So weird to see CIG people treating it like a milestone.
@@Bastiondar Nice! I'm just over 300 hours in NMS, it's a great game. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed with all the options you have in all its features LOL and they just added fishing and tons of new fish types and more
@@mercenum5186 I had just finished Liquidators, I may just take my time with Aquarius. I started it, but i'm not gonna rush it like i did LIquidators. Crazy that Light no Fire is going to come out before SC. And I can't wait for it, if it uses all the tech they've gotten great with from NMS.
dude, you NEED a sense of humour because to think how much money was wasted on this "game" you would want to do more than visit citizencon just to KNOCK chris the F O
I thought this was a good episode tbh, overtly heavy on the humor but if we make and know sterotypes for Cig, they do aswell, its part of the marketing and social teams job to connect with fans and this is a pretty funny and decent way to do that. They showed us their intentions with creatures laying ground work for more in the future. And also showed us great new WANTED features for the character creator, i feel like peoples hate to this is just strange
love humor as much as the next guy. appreciate it even more when its not about how you are screwing over your backers and STILL not doing content worth a damn. but thats just me. Im sure everyone else is far more tolerable and beleives this wonderful joke is worth 700million and 14 years of wating.
Gem I see your frustrated on how long it has taken. And honestly games can take this long to make but it mostly done behind closed doors without you knowing about it. SC is a public production. But at the same time Not everyone that works on the game can program features. They all have different disciplines and talents. So what are the artists to do. Should they just stop because X feature isnt working or isnt in the game or should they forge forward in the hopes that a feature will be implemented and because they were working there is art and interface and physicality to said feature. Different areas of development march forward at different speeds.
I love how they take the piss out of their backers.
A creature named fucking copium, space whales and now milking space cows.
Yet, 12 years of alien week sales without a single alien in game.
All sand and no fucking worm.
No video game has generated more disappointment than Star Citizen, for over a decade. I see now they are trying to sell bridges in New Babbage.
What I love is the number of times I have been told by the fanboys that this is acceptable for a game dev cycle.
Meanwhile NMS just added FISHING into their game...
wait really? damn i need to reinstall it then
@@justincase9033 Yes, patch on this week and another expedition.
We should all work together to sue them seriously
Can't I think he moved the company to the UK to avoid this, in the US he would've been sued for fraud and they do have a couple lawsuits they are trying to hide right now I believe.
Again, I'll stick to NMS. Just so much fun, lots to do and so accessible. Real developers who clearly have a passion for what they put out
Jared Huckaby plays a similar role for Chris Roberts as Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, also known as "Baghdad Bob," did for Saddam Hussein, acting as a spokesperson or representative.
Ah, yes, 12 years into the development of BDSSE we have a cow... maybe. Work in progress though, not representative of actual gameplay.
With all the stuff they've made. Where Banu, Xian, Vanduul those bird people? No Mans Sky has NPC and playable alien characters. CiG has no excuse for this!
SC is advertised just like fast food. You see a picture/video of an amazing looking burger 🍔 then your order arrives and it's a soggy bun, 1 pickle, a litre of ketchup and some grey "meat" 🤮
That's why I eat only mü'slim certified, ie non-stunned, non-factory machined guaranteed halal
This should surprise no one considering they put out a video called "making ship up" a few weeks ago. This scam keeps getting bolder by the week
Yeah, I really give a shit about how my character looks when I wear armor and a fucking helmet all game. I'd prefer they focus on game loop-focused helmet HUDs and armour that actually give you benefits when using them. Eg. specialest cargo trader armour that has built-in tractor beam functionality 🤯
No way, you don't want to cover your character in shitty tattoos and random face piercings? 😂😂😂
The harsh reality between what they show in ISC and what it actually looks like in the game is infuriating.
Meanwhile Hello Games casually drops Call of the Space: The Cosmic Angler...
Sean Murray is literally just enjoying life at this point...
Unless server meshing becomes a reality none of this matters
Imagine if world of warcraft or no man's sky or guild wars would make a video every time they make a stupid creature on the game!
Sc is the big joke on us from the 21 century.
Funny how hello games keeps adding tons of stuffs to no man's sky including a freaking sandworm while cig just started to brag about adding cows 12 years later.
brag about adding cows... while not even having them in game. But soon tm. so maybe in 5 years or never.
work in progress*
*this video was not made in star engine.
LAME! I will not be waiting for the cows to come home....I have moved on from this bad bad bad, paid beta. Give me a break, Starfeild has created more creatures than you can shake a stick at, and we are suppose to feel sooooooooo privilege to get ONE COW in Star Citizen. Lol sure whatever! A whole podcast that has to be spent on one animal proves how low content this sorry game is.
Anyone remember when they dedicated a whole show on trolleys and literally had a whole patch cycle dedicated to said trolleys only to have it kill people whilst using them ... where are the trolleys now ??? Months and months wasted on something that's so trivial that's not even in the game anymore. They will dedicate months on a cow and probably delay patches for it.... pretty much sums us CIG.
So with all the vastness of the universe and all of the possible permutations of life forms that could've evolved through different timelines, CIG creativity s limited by North American continent animals in the Anthropocene Epoch, only.
so what did we learn this week? This company literally sh!ts on us. What a clown company 🤡
Chris Roberts sure got fat didn't he?
make tattoos and piercings shop items for real money, like paints. it will be glorious.
'It was a breakthrough for us to make a cow'
Hey GEM, I think you should try a new game that just dropped called Star Trucker, maybe you already know of it. I knew it was coming out but I thought it would just be an ok indie title. I am actually pleasantly suprised by the content, polish, and creativity. Dont think Ive had a single frame drop on max settings. and the game is just beautiful. It has space hauling missions, and even solid engineering gameplay. I think you will like it far better than Star Citizen right now.
I uninstalled SC around 18 months ago, frustrated. Two days ago I reinstalled it to see how much it has improved. I think I will be uninstalling again and pop back in another 18 months.
Stopped playing on 3.17.1, made pause till 7 days ago, installed it, died in hangar due to nothing as my ship just randomly bugged into the station, them experiemced server response times from over 15 seconds, died in the subway of lorville for no reason as the trains started to disappear and de-symced, finally made my way to asop terminals, experiemced no response amd deleted the game as im not interested in any features if the game is literally bricked.
Aah amd btw....fps didnt improve as they all said. Pretended to work so epically good in process management but that was just another lie.
Wait till 4.0 and more realistically after 4.0 has fixed its major bugs. I get it but lets be real, every new patch is new and has growing pain since all there tech is new and needs bug fixing. So do what i do and just check in now and then and follow the news. Its still gonna be a long ride till server meshing is fully intergrated sometime after 4.0
The cow shitting a person was an Ace Ventura reference... People wanted progress updates, now they have to devote time to make them. In this case, probably didn't have the time because yknow... huge updates coming. Haters gonna hate
I wish they would make the cities and outpost more alive. More NPCs to talk to. Or stuff to do in the cities, bars, casinos, just more to do. Maybe make it so we can buy apartments in the cities or make our own place out on some planet or moon somewhere.
"consistently inconsistent" nice, that is truly bleeding edge.
Usually I agree with you, but this is THE BEST SHOW THEY'VE EVER DONE. :)
If this is the best, it says a lot.
That's sad then . ... 😂
@@THEMALBINO it's a good show. It's funny. It's not the right time to show off the said topic.
Like tell me when the tech is going to be in. Who gives a shit about space cows? I like this as a meme edit. But put this on a weekly show that is supposed to show development progress is just... Why?
Its all a joke. I feel taken advantage of. Give up on CIG, and Id like my money back.
Ya that is trash... We just needed some wild life to make the areas believable. But bugged out do nothing creatures is not the answer. Because everything happens at the SERVER side it all runs like crap and they cannot fix that I don't think. You need some load on client side.
I made a comment awhile ago on the forums about how all they do is talk with fluff and promotionals when the actual game is nothing like that, that was years ago. They literally haven't changed, incredible!
This game has tech never seen before in gaming. This is exciting and Chris deserves all our support in order to deliver his vision.
He can bring all the tech he likes but until it is a functioning game it is useless.
No it doesn't, we have server meshing and more now, this game offers nothing new the shill accounts just tell you it's new.
It's outdated and boring. Move on
@@restlesscow2137 Then take your own advice and move on?
@@hasearo7405 I never started this game. I check in to see how it's doing. It's not doing much.
Well we can walk around on our spaceships.
Until you fall thru the floor. Or randomly explode. Or get kicked out into space mid-quantum jump. Or get stuck in a chair or bed. Or get disconnected and you reappear back in your hab. Or one of the many many other issues. So even something as simple as walking around the ships doesn't work 12 years in.
I seriously enjoy it, as there is no alternative. Ask yourselves why there is no alternative...
Are these what Whammers are made of? I guess I'll give the plant based ones a try.
This is why I'll never purchase anything beyond the starter package.
They adding garbage so they seem like there busy on the game. Just fix the things we have or did have that they took away. As you say, NMS sky do it great, why can’t they manage it after million’s payed by players.
In the mean time I have completed ED & NMS 😂
5:44 those cow eggs better be very soft like dino eggs
I'll be cooking up some dem cow eggs by Lake Microtech.
What I find amazing and to CIG's credit is how they get content creators to work for free. Take a look at how many times the above video is reposted and commented on, mostly favorably. I think the key thing eveyone is missing is SC is basically the financial means for Chris' movie - Squandron 42. The bait has worked for so long why change. The sad thing is those responsible for the above shows are trying to keep things interesting. This is how they are creatively keeping their jobs.
It's painfully obvious CGI has no clue how to ever make this game run smoothly let alone be playable in a finished or polished state. All they can do is hype the bs and hope you buy the next shinny object... I mean "ship" that goes on sale so they can pretend like progress is being made.
i only paid like 30 bucks for one ship. not paying any further until i see the singleplayer expirience.
Star Citizen luxury island vacation
A breakthrougth? Lol someone should watch the latest Godzilla movies to actually see what's a good creature design
What's most annoying is the fact they don't even try to pretend it's smth serious. They just clown about it.
At the rate of development now it would take another 30 years to get anywhere near a coherent gaming experience with the many fleshed out careers CIG advertised.
And that is assuming they can get SM working to a level where the AI actually function with thousands of players playing together.
But CR says 1.0 in 2025? 🤠
I pretty sure the dogs move now and you shot them with the ship before you land
forget gravity, they want tongue physics!
they SHIT in the players FACES and tell them "Its chocolate " .. good lord , stop the simping for CIG . you only make CR richer and richer .. u will never get anything.
Agreed, tell that to Boredgamer. Biggest simp in the community, turns a blind eye to everything !
cow egg...
COW EGG.
That's how space cows work
I play stailcraft x stalker fan maxr game it's free . Ai is better in it. Than in sc.
currently the best space sim for dogfighting might be 2gb large 'house of the dying sun'
so stuff like this is the reason why most of us are still waiting on ships for like 6+ years but have stuff what we cant see because we have gear on
Yup. I, sadly, am another of those still waiting for a ship after all these years.
@@trashdoktor at this point there a NFT
let us not forget that roberts true talent lies in producing videos and selling a story
i am not surprised at all by the state of the game
i was original target audience for the dude, veteran of elite (original one) and wing commander, someone that played freelancer with enthusiasm lamenting the "why didn't they let him finish" in a willful attempt to defend him
when elite dangerous and star citizen hit the talk and started with early backing, i was in conflict with both myself and my friends (that grew up with me on the same influences). i was the only one that decided to back elite while they all bought expensive early packs for sc
i am still playing elite dangerous, they turned on sc maybe a dozen times
at this point, whatever frontier development releases as an expansion to elite dangerous, i will buy without a second thought
roberts could not get me to buy the cheapest pack even if the game was released in full by tomorrow
Somehow No Man's Sky wound up being the more honest developer, wow. The irony. Guess I'm done being supportive of Star Citizen.
An egg laying cow that spawns near copium 😂😂😂.
It cant get anymore blatantly obvious then this
nothing works, no npc moves at all but sure, the stupid cows will have a complete lifecycle with pray/hunt simulation like it has never been before... lets get you back to bed grandpa robbers
I had a feeling you'd love this one 😅 literally. Ant make this "shit" up 🗑️
Days like these im glad I didnt spend very much in this game. They keep adding stuff we dont need instead of fixing the game so basic physics and other game play loops work. No here is a space cow that will do nothing. Here are tatoos and other trash. I got into the game 3 years ago and waited for there to be actual transport missions. Finally it came. I got in and poof it didnt work couldnt get my cargo. Should have uninstalled
the problem of SC is certainly not the lack of good artists, but 3d models and animations don't make a game
Star citizen is a scam!!! Life waster!!!!
Cows seriously… you can’t fix basic things…!!!
Dude… start citizen is literally laughing at you as you pay to play.
Even arena commander works bad...and they dont need SM for that. Racing check points are not working, desync in all race tracks (even in offline mode) . Do you want to change component? You have to go back to main menu constantly to make it work ...been allways likes this. If they dont even know how to make AC works..shame on them.
whatever happened to the pyro space crab…
Those birds are like fat cooked.... those cows look like half eaten... the designers of these have no good experience making these things. The dogs are like... one artist made the head, and another artist force the body that don't fit the design.
I can't spawn my ship in the PU. Says I need to claim it. When I do, it comes back with a message telling me to try again later.
What the hell has it come to jesus.
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wow some incredibally salted individuals round these parts huh...
I mean this is just sad. When you look at what No Mans Sky has delivered to their players just this year compared to Star Citizen its like a night and day difference. It gets even worse when you factor in Hello Games is doing it with less people and resources. And the cherry on top is NMS is giving it all away for FREE! Meanwhile this kickstarter from 2012 continues to bleed their backers for every dollar they can. Shameful display.
Was thinking the exact same thing. I'm looking at these animals and while the high quality renders look neat, they're just animals. NMS and other games are full of them. NMS animals are randomly generated, but some attack, they graze and eat, they fly around. I mean what is CIG doing? This stuff should be basic to the game, and not even worth mentioning.
@@Bastiondar in NMS you can give some creatures food and even take them as a pet to follow you or summon them later. Starfield has a bunch of creatures also. They can fight eachother or attack you. You can also have them fight by your side with your powers. With mods you can even have them as pets. Other than nice spaceships you can seamlessly enter and exit SC just doesn't have much else.
@@mercenum5186 oh yeah i know all about NMS. got about 520 hours in it heh. Didn't know about starfield though, but animals is such a basic thing. So weird to see CIG people treating it like a milestone.
@@Bastiondar Nice! I'm just over 300 hours in NMS, it's a great game. Sometimes I'm overwhelmed with all the options you have in all its features LOL and they just added fishing and tons of new fish types and more
@@mercenum5186 I had just finished Liquidators, I may just take my time with Aquarius. I started it, but i'm not gonna rush it like i did LIquidators. Crazy that Light no Fire is going to come out before SC. And I can't wait for it, if it uses all the tech they've gotten great with from NMS.
Company full of losers
Is anyone actually playing space ship pvp in this game?
why would you? the combat sucks now and its not as if theres a reward for it.
dude, you NEED a sense of humour because to think how much money was wasted on this "game" you would want to do more than visit citizencon just to KNOCK chris the F O
I thought this was a good episode tbh, overtly heavy on the humor but if we make and know sterotypes for Cig, they do aswell, its part of the marketing and social teams job to connect with fans and this is a pretty funny and decent way to do that. They showed us their intentions with creatures laying ground work for more in the future. And also showed us great new WANTED features for the character creator, i feel like peoples hate to this is just strange
love humor as much as the next guy. appreciate it even more when its not about how you are screwing over your backers and STILL not doing content worth a damn. but thats just me. Im sure everyone else is far more tolerable and beleives this wonderful joke is worth 700million and 14 years of wating.
*They are just laughing at people like you, and the rest of us are laughing too.*
Gem I see your frustrated on how long it has taken. And honestly games can take this long to make but it mostly done behind closed doors without you knowing about it. SC is a public production. But at the same time Not everyone that works on the game can program features. They all have different disciplines and talents. So what are the artists to do. Should they just stop because X feature isnt working or isnt in the game or should they forge forward in the hopes that a feature will be implemented and because they were working there is art and interface and physicality to said feature. Different areas of development march forward at different speeds.
the salt is real
Your Anti-Star Citizen "Content" can always count on a downvote from me.
Get Rid of your SC Code!
Congrats you get the first Fanboy comment award lol
keep giving CIG your money it's Your choice to get scammed.
I didn't see you giving any real arguments about what he is saying though.
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@hurtfixer_ lol this guy prob loves SC he just shits on it to mooch off the haters
Fanboy alert