THE SNAPCHAT KILLERS

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2025

ความคิดเห็น • 812

  • @hannahriley8085
    @hannahriley8085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Omg I truly appreciate your kind words about vulnerable people. I was a working girl for over 20 years and have been a addict for over 30 years and you'd be amazed at the judgemental attitudes of most people. so thank you

    • @thehaglin
      @thehaglin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Too many stones thrown from inside glass houses…Yes there are truly ignorant, nasty people abounding. I do think there are often so many who ridicule others to deflect attention from their own struggles or perceived inequities. If we could only learn to accept own own faults and misgivings, possibly we might be able to drum up the needed empathy we all so desperately need in the roughest of times. Warmest regards, Hannah and the best of days to come to you.

    • @brummiepilgrim2223
      @brummiepilgrim2223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The road to recovery is not an easy one, it's not easy to overcome addition. I wish you well. Keep going because your worth it.
      If we (people) were a little more caring and understanding Britain wouldn't be so broken and vulnerable people would have a chance to heal and live out their potential.

    • @apt5044
      @apt5044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This was shocking and heartbreaking in so many ways....made me so sad

    • @ramonagreen7197
      @ramonagreen7197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Hannah I was a working girl for 22 years and a crack and heroin addict for 24 years. I'm 41. I've been trying to stay clean and I'm near the end of my second year of my degree. It's certainly not easy! Just a kind word and a smile can go a long way. I can't stand it when people judge others when they don't have a clue what they've been through or how they got to where they are. Stay strong 💪❤️🙏🏻

    • @k.sophiacavallo8858
      @k.sophiacavallo8858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Angela was tortured & murdered by 2 sociopaths. These 2 are defective. They will never have empathy, compassion, or conscience.

  • @NelCapeTown
    @NelCapeTown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    That quote: "If you don't feel loved, it's hard to find worth. And if you don't find worth, it's hard to find reason."
    Wow! That is so profound and so eloquently described.

  • @DdOommmmm
    @DdOommmmm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    Hartlepool born and bred here, whilst Angela had her problems she wouldn't ever hurt anyone, I knew her personally and she was always kind to me, even when totally inebriated. Rip Angela x

    • @Tidgy
      @Tidgy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I remember her in Darlington, Noone ever gave her a chance, Yes she was kind and wouldn't have hurt anyone, she was just extremely vulnerable. She deserved a better life than she got.

    • @carahazell7505
      @carahazell7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too, she was a lovely human being, wouldn't hurt a fly 😭

    • @lisad5533
      @lisad5533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not very far away at all and this broke my heart. This was a senseless evil murder.

    • @asmith181
      @asmith181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I ended up in Hartlepool when I was going through a really, really bad patch. It was a terrifying place. There was a guy called Danny who kinda looked out for me. He had good taste in Music, and warned me about how dangerous the guy I was staying with was.
      But that place....still have bad dreams about it.

    • @paulhoye9680
      @paulhoye9680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tidgy did she go to gad? Her face is familiar to me..unless I imagine it..

  • @Steven-eg8be
    @Steven-eg8be ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When you spoke about her posting chocolate bars through for the kids made me feel so sad. Imagine having one of the most unfair and tragic starts in life and still trying to make good starts for those youngest. What a lovely thing for her to do. ❤

  • @allannahk
    @allannahk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    It was so gracious of you to describe Angela as tenderly as you did, she was a woman, she ought to have been loved and cherished, she should have been shown kindness and had a real connection to those that offered true friendship.
    I get that she seemed unable to help herself but she was all alone in the world. No one should suffer that.
    She may well have give up on herself and life after struggling against the tide for so long but she never deserved for her life to have been snuffed out in such a disgraceful, despicable way.
    This case is arduous and is telling of the very worst in humanity.
    Loneliness is a slow death. Reach out to someone if you or they are lonely, you never know you could save a life.

  • @SarahCarroll1987
    @SarahCarroll1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Emma I cannot explain how grateful I am that you’ve covered this case. I’m from Hartlepool, and remember so clearly ever detail of this horrendous crime.
    What happened to Angela Wrightson was beyond sad and disgusting. And knowing the ages and that it was two school girls who carried it out makes it all worse.
    Thank you again.
    And I love you and all your videos.

    • @Lillie-mae.Edwards
      @Lillie-mae.Edwards 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No way I live in Hartlepool too aha. I didn’t live here then but it’s still heartbreaking

    • @SarahCarroll1987
      @SarahCarroll1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lillie-mae.Edwards ❤️❤️❤️

    • @joshtimothy6534
      @joshtimothy6534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      From Hartlepool too. Disgusting case

    • @janinek-something7936
      @janinek-something7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarahCarroll1987 thanks for the transcript, will read this later. Heartbreaking case ☹️

    • @kezzaward5104
      @kezzaward5104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Tammy Allen I know they were out about a year ago not long enough time again

  • @gemmahamilton2565
    @gemmahamilton2565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    This happened down the road from my nana, such a horrific attack. I used to see her out and about hartlepool Town centre, she was a face everyone knew
    R. I. P Angela

  • @loopylou6841
    @loopylou6841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I used to be alcohol dependant, I'm now sober for 5years and counting 👍
    I too am suffering from the effects of damage done by drinking. All kinds of damage that can't be fixed by my now staying sober
    Including TBI

    • @extractionoflight9478
      @extractionoflight9478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's incredible 💜 Sending you hugs and warmth

    • @charx3218
      @charx3218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      💛💛💛

    • @ItsmeAndygNUFC
      @ItsmeAndygNUFC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm struggling myself , I'm ready to give up , keep up the good work x

    • @yinyangyo9467
      @yinyangyo9467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congratulations!You've something that is really hard to do! You're doing amazing, stick with it! 💜😍💜😍xx

    • @anniej1834
      @anniej1834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great believe me u are doing so well I'm 20 year's sober so keep up with the great work ☺️❤️ x

  • @kelvinriach4573
    @kelvinriach4573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Venables and Thompson were a unique case. Children who murdered a child not long out of nappies. Unfortunately, their anonymity had to be protected. F and D were teenagers who murdered a vulnerable adult in the most horrific ways. It angers me when a murdered victim's human rights seem to end with their deaths. Where is the dignity and justice in that? They should have been tried as Adults. In the USA they'd be sat on Death Row Uncontrolled Animals get put down...End of. Keep up the good work Emma x

    • @Vanessa2uk
      @Vanessa2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They didn’t even deserve not to be named or shamed, what they did to that little boy was horrible and that’s putting it lightly. They had the best life when they went away. They didn’t get punished x

    • @DdOommmmm
      @DdOommmmm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No sorry, even the US doesn't execute minors bud. It'd be life without parole over there.

    • @bekahkashtan
      @bekahkashtan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DdOommmmm at least they would be in jail still, in a shit cell, beaten for being a child murderer, with shit food, and no tv plushy cell with visiting hours where they allowed them to GO HOME on the damn weekends. Prison in the UK is a joke in a half… they should ROT. I feel horrid for the victims family. They spent hundreds of thousands getting new identities and one of the men keeps breaking the identity rules and they have to reissue them which costs thousands of more dollars. 😑

    • @acovenofmany333
      @acovenofmany333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Venables reoffended, as well.

    • @inuchan74
      @inuchan74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not that I disagree but since 2005 the US has banned the death penalty for juveniles. Personally I feel like if you wanna do a grown up crime you should be subject to the same grown up consequences.

  • @septarian3337
    @septarian3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Um, I feel like I've waited my entire life for someone to say that to me. I know it wasn't directed to me. But the part in the beginning of the video when you're talking about grief and that she didn't necessarily choose to live that way, moreso that life just happened to her. Um. I've been through a lot as a child/young adult. I feel like my entire life I've been grieving. And no one's ever acknowledged that it wasn't my fault or I didn't deserve it. Idk I've just never heard those words before and it's incredibly comforting even if it's indirectly. Maybe someday I'll hear it in person. Thank you for saying that. Everyone no matter who they are should hear that.

    • @margaretdavis3858
      @margaretdavis3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Let it all go hun, it's not your fault. Sending love from Ireland 🍀🇮🇪🤗💜

    • @septarian3337
      @septarian3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@margaretdavis3858 Thank you 🥺💕🤗

    • @SpikeyAlbinoPotato
      @SpikeyAlbinoPotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I totally get you. It touched me too.
      I feel your pain, literally. I really do xx

    • @septarian3337
      @septarian3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rylinu @Hollie Clayton I'm sorry you both know the feeling. But you're right, it is nice knowing you're not alone and I'll take ANY support I can get haha. ❤️

  • @devinisdead4061
    @devinisdead4061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I could lose 6 stone and still be fine. That is absolutely sickly for an adult. These young girls laughing on that 999 call is terrifying. Simply beyond disturbing.

  • @lisaO0514
    @lisaO0514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    12 yrs sober here. To know what that poor, beautiful soul went through absolutely breaks me. I know what it feels like to believe you’re not wanted. I know what it feels like to believe you don’t matter. To know that she was tortured to death without ever having known love will haunt me. I only wish that, wherever she is, she’s feeling safe, loved, respected, and held in the arms of peace. As for the vile children who did this? There are no words except to say that sometimes pure evil exists without cause or provocation. Theirs are the faces of evil incarnate.

    • @susanbrown2909
      @susanbrown2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely..the devil spawn walks amongst us..

    • @courtneyfrost915
      @courtneyfrost915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, I have never believed I was unwanted. I know I was. I was told this.

    • @allysonoconnell1457
      @allysonoconnell1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congratulations Lisa I am 20 yrs sober and I appreciate how hard it is to get sober. I am always here for u if u need support of a chat x

  • @Kari.F.
    @Kari.F. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Whenever I hear "snap chat murders" I automatically think of the Delphi murders (Abby and Libby). I've never heard about this case before. Poor Angela. Such a horrendous ending to a sad and troubled life...

  • @andrewturvill7145
    @andrewturvill7145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Cannot even imagine how shocking the pictures must have been to not have been shown in court. Didn't know about the Venables law though. Sickening that these people are given new identities and let out.

    • @karonmcgregor4753
      @karonmcgregor4753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And the cost to the public is horrendous. Ian Huntley's girlfriend got a new ID, and security. But the press kept finding out where she was, and they still kept giving her new identies. Apparently £1 million was spent on protecting her. Venables, same thing. Multiple new identies, but he keeps getting caught watching/downloading kiddie porn, etc., so back to jail, only to be let out again with another new ID. It's ridiculous the amount of money spent on people who are proving to be serious offenders since being kids well into adulthood. When are the do-goodie psychiatrists, etc. realise some of these kids will never be "normal" as adults - and should be treat as such.

  • @gageiiiiitttt
    @gageiiiiitttt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You have such a compassionate way of exploring these stories and explaining the vulnerability of the victims.

  • @princess_m6063
    @princess_m6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was a fall down drunk for over twenty years. I'm sober for over 3 years now but I remember reading this a while ago it broke my heart

  • @lb45878
    @lb45878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Honestly Emma, you really are brilliant with true crime. Got my mum hooked on your channel now lol. Can't wait for Sunday. All the very best to you and yours. Xx

  • @comfycomfy6469
    @comfycomfy6469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Have a look at the Suzanne Capper murder, that too was horrific, it happened about the same time as the Bulger case so didn't get much media attention

  • @mj3026
    @mj3026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Absolutely disgusting pure evil what they done to that poor defenceless woman so heartbreaking

  • @Countess777
    @Countess777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The two murderesses sound like serial killers in the making. I wonder if it wasn’t Angela, was it only a matter of time before it could have been someone else?
    Would they have continued killing if they hadn’t been caught?

    • @rantersparadise
      @rantersparadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THIS

    • @jessicalastname6865
      @jessicalastname6865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Absolutely. On both
      And providing them anonymity, provides them with the opportunity to do it again.

  • @EyeOfSandwich
    @EyeOfSandwich 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I'd love to hear what you have to say about the Turpin family - the oldest child held captive in the family was 23 when they finally escaped their parents I think. Just mad

    • @Army4life82
      @Army4life82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately they are living another life of hell the foster father SA some of the girls the money & clothes that where donated to them was stolen the case worker who said that she would personally see to their protect & safety didn't do her job. The state of California has failed these children twice beyond words

  • @corinacoady2183
    @corinacoady2183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have seen this case before but I learned so many new details...thankyou for covering yet another case that raises awareness about kids who's identities are kept hidden..it is quite terrifying

  • @bobrucie873
    @bobrucie873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My heart hurts for Angie, I can’t even imagine her final moments. Those girls unnerve me, if capable of harming such a defenseless woman as teenagers can you imagine what they’re capable of doing as adults? I’m glad they got that sentence.

  • @taraqueen58
    @taraqueen58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This case makes me question the "Care" of local authority and foster parents. One of the girls seems to be below average intelligence . Much more needs to be done to help young people who have suffered abuse and can turn their anger and frustration into this kind of rage. These problems will continue until more investment is made into lives of children.

    • @katylynn12151
      @katylynn12151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We two

    • @katylynn12151
      @katylynn12151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe

    • @DdOommmmm
      @DdOommmmm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Believe me, the local authority in Hartlepool is horrendous.

    • @alisha7224
      @alisha7224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They could give the foster money to the parents & the majority of cases would be closed as most kids are in care for neglect, not abuse

    • @smileback9307
      @smileback9307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I suffered worse abuse living in the care system in the UK, then I received living at home. Social services are corrupt. They lie to get the child taken away and have nobody to answer to.

  • @Wazza25
    @Wazza25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Emma Kenny is so Fit . I used to watch crime documentarys just to see such a smart and beautiful woman
    Edit. Been someone whos suffered with significant addiction issues. Been someone whos had challenges thoughout most my adult life due to chaotic , self destructive behaviour this saddens me deeply. 😥

  • @Wonkywatkins
    @Wonkywatkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m nearly crying already and we are only 24 minutes in 🤦🏻‍♀️. I bet that every person that has struggled with alcoholism, abandonment, any (or all) of the things mentioned here, I bet they wish that they knew an Emma Kenny during this time. I do ❤️.

  • @BirdieB88
    @BirdieB88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just finished watching. Em, the work, research and the love that you put into your work is above and beyond. The way that you “coloured in “ Ange and made her a three dimensional person of intrinsic value was beautifully done. My heart aches for her. I truly hope that Ange is some where better now, some where beautifully Devine , where she is surrounded by love, love love.

  • @Ann-qf5vk
    @Ann-qf5vk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This deserves a rewatch.thank you

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Emma, I love your presentation so much more natural than some of the other programs that over dramatise already dreadful circumstances. The way they scan folks eyes from left to right and everything is in the dark is a bit over the top. Watching you speak about people in a normal, natural way is so refreshing and not judging folk with problems. It’s like listening to a friend talk. Thank you so much.

  • @KerryLeanne89
    @KerryLeanne89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This case hits hard for me. My dad was an active alcoholic for years. The loveliest, most caring, gentle soul. Naturally he attracted less than savoury characters. They used his flat as a social club and he was always too afraid to ask them to leave. I never could give up on him and had many occasions where I would have to ask people to leave and deal with them. To the point where as an 18 year old I'd be sat in the car outside his flat in the early hours of the morning making sure he was safe. He had a head injury and was vulnerable. I was so proud of him when he eventually gave up the alcohol but sadly we lost him in September last year as the damage was already done. It's so hard trying to support someone in this situation and you can give your entire life up trying to do so. Ultimately if they aren't ready for the help or realise they need it, it won't happen. I hope Angela is in peace and can finally rest x

    • @Jerseybaby19
      @Jerseybaby19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt so much sadness reading this. I've never known anyone personally who is alcohol dependent but my brother is a prolific drug user. I don't think people understand the desperateness family's feel to help their loved ones. Sadly my mum died this year from covid at only 54 and ive had to take her role of taking care of my brother. Its heartbreaking watching him kill himself because that is what he's doing slowly. He attempted to take his life last month because he don't want to live this way. Its tough for any addict in society especially with leeches. He's beat up and robbed often.
      My heart really goes out to you, what an incredible daughter and such a young age to take on that responsibility. I hope life does treat you better ❤

    • @KerryLeanne89
      @KerryLeanne89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jerseybaby19 I'm so sorry to hear of what you've been through and are going through ❤️ it's one of those things where people just don't understand fully unless they've been there. It really is a heartbreaking situation and I'm sending all the love your way ❤️ xx

    • @lekkki1
      @lekkki1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not able to put into words how good of a daughter you are. I hope you are moving forward and taking care of yourself.

    • @KerryLeanne89
      @KerryLeanne89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lekkki1 thank you so much ❤️ that really means so much to hear, it's been heartbreaking but I'm trying my best xx

  • @reeserive
    @reeserive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am all about upholding human rights, regardless of any personal circumstance. But I think the decision on the anonymity of the girls is such a stretch. You should not be protected from your guilty conscience. If you don't want to feel bad about what you've done, then consider NOT being violent. They obviously did not feel any remorse. I see no sense in the ruling.

  • @thejoycatcher8189
    @thejoycatcher8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just discovered your channel and I’m so glad I did! Unexpected tears but worth it! LOL I can relate to the childhood you’ve described in many ways! I was blessed enough to have many good people around me through the years. I’ve not been wise and chose as an adult to suppress my feelings. It’s been a decade since that life and I wish it upon nobody! I wish to warn others and hopes to educate and prevent others from going though what I did. It doesn’t have to be this way. You can change with time and professional help! I now find it crazy in a way to be grateful for those trials because I’ve become more empathetic and wise! Having a clear mind and intellect is daily work for someone like me. I’m 47 and now feel excited to my future. My heart goes out to those who for one reason or another don’t receive that love I have. So when I see a need (within my own home first) I speak up and act more. I try not to offend in the process but often it’s going to happen but it’s to become better and live a more joyful life. Thank you! You’re such a wise and caring person! 🙏🏻❤️🤗

  • @joytreedesigns7876
    @joytreedesigns7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I need to stop taking my sleeping tablet b4 I watch you Emma. I've started nodding off near the end and the dreams are getting too wierd x

  • @wonderwoman5528
    @wonderwoman5528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve given such a big insight into the case that you can’t get online. You’ve helped me understand better the motive, the background of these girls and the victim, and why their identities have been hidden. When I heard of this crime on tv I couldn’t believe how it was barely mentioned on the news. For a 13 and 14 year old to wandering the streets with no one caring for their return… society has failed these girls. I know these girls are vicious and dangerous and should be kept behind bars but it’s shocking how young people can be walking the streets like a ticking time bomb

  • @justine_holloway
    @justine_holloway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Emma, don't know if you will read this but I just wanted to say I have become hooked by your channel! I am not normally someone who listens to true crime stories as they're generally just way too harrowing for me but you present these cases with expertise, passion and depth, and in such a thought-provoking way that I've found myself binge-watching your videos. I'm also in the UK and a lot of these cases I do remember hearing on the news at the time and being utterly horrified by them. In this case, your unpicking of the information given at the trial ended up chilling me most of all - the sheer immaturity of at least one of the girls - such a low level of awareness and thought. Anyway, thanks for doing what you do.

    • @EmmaKennyTV
      @EmmaKennyTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I try to read every comment Jade. I’m glad you are Enjoying my channel. I have so much more to come. Em x

  • @kellyspence
    @kellyspence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im a Geordie and at the time when this happened, being 43 now I remember the rawness like yesterday how the people of Newcastle felt. Terrible, for the majority living in this poor, deprived part of town were close knitted, friendly, warming but some lost their way like Angela and many others. Best place for these girls.....I'm all about rehabilitation were possible but not for these, jail needs to be home for them, forever.

  • @sandiebroomfield6245
    @sandiebroomfield6245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thankyou so much for as ever delivering a horrible tale in your usual unbiased, compassionate style.Your are one level headed cookie 🍪

  • @0livita
    @0livita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    protecting their identity regardless of the offenders age equates to condoning this type of behavior. PERIOD. humans at all points need to be held accountable, the fact that Angela’s life both before and after death was completely disregarded is such an absolute sham on her legacy & that of the justice system. allowing her murderer’s to avoid shame & identification is downright unfair.
    that being said id love to see your analysis of mary bell!

  • @lily-joyheal9954
    @lily-joyheal9954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This case always gives me such a deep visceral sadness whenever I hear it. I wish I could have gone back in time and given Angela the love and companionship that she craved so this didn't have to happen to her

  • @DianesWeirdWorld
    @DianesWeirdWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm from the UK and hadn't heard of this case! Love that you cover cases that are not as well known! Great job as always! I'm a huge fan! X

  • @JockStrop
    @JockStrop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I dont agree with the ruling not showing their names - where is the accountabilty, what about safety of others once they are out

    • @margaretdavis3858
      @margaretdavis3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree

    • @zaracummins4481
      @zaracummins4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a theory of who the killers might be...

    • @kialondon8879
      @kialondon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zaracummins4481 what is your theory ??

    • @zaracummins4481
      @zaracummins4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kialondon8879 id say but if I'm right I don't want law enforcement up my ass. But idk dm me and maybe I can tell you

    • @kialondon8879
      @kialondon8879 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zaracummins4481 definitely what’s your ig handle xxx

  • @BiljanaPetrova
    @BiljanaPetrova 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can convey thoughts and facts so powerfully.
    Great job!

  • @johnlumb1078
    @johnlumb1078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi all, looking forward to another great video...I am a retired Met. Pol Cop thought I would have had enough but Emma makes you come back.

  • @jamiepatterson558
    @jamiepatterson558 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's crazy to me that these kids can just go on living their lives after this & nobody will ever know who they are.
    They could work with children, old people, the disabled & we wouldnt know monsters were caring for our vulnerable loved ones.
    I'm American, our system is batshit crazy, but even i find anonymity of monsters insane.

  • @kategraham6797
    @kategraham6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’ve never seen a true crime channel cover the Derek Bird case. It was a big deal here in Cumbria. I’d like to know what exactly lead up to it all.

  • @Estelle-Maureen
    @Estelle-Maureen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super presentation Em!!! Being from the states I love hearing about cases far and away!!!

  • @sarahnichols4253
    @sarahnichols4253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think it's crazy they don't release their names and they get new identities when they're released😳 Will they be on probation and watched or do they just get out with a clean slate? Thats ludicrous if they just get out with no conditions to ensure the safety of the public. I've never heard of this happening. My mind is blown.
    I hope Angela is resting easy in a better place💔

  • @jodieadshead2311
    @jodieadshead2311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for once again managing to put the victim (and compassion for the victim) at the centre of this case- although you touch upon Angela having never really found her purpose in life, I think that her story and the utterly tragic circumstances in which she died mean that her legacy will be that if there are opportunities to get help, however small, they should be seized. She was definitely a woman whose life had intrinsic value, she deserved so much more (especially as a child) and nobody deserves to live the life that she lived or to die the way that she died. This was an utterly senseless murder. It is even more shocking when you consider the fact that her murderers were so young.
    This episode raises serious questions about the care system and how it can play a part in criminalising young people, as well as how it can play a part in making children who go through the care system feel like they have no futures. I believe that both girls probably did see a part of their future lives mirrored in Angela. The fact that they attacked her with a mirror speaks volumes.
    R.I.P Angela, I hope that wherever you are now, you are at peace.

  • @sharleethomas4390
    @sharleethomas4390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who was abused as a child, raised in the system and turned to drug and alcohol abuse as a teenager and into my early twenties I have never and would never consider inflicting harm or death on another. I hate that people that have been through the system seem to get a reputation as turning into a monster because of what they have been through. Yes it can make you angry at the world but it doesn't make it ok for you to take it out on others. Their upbringing doesn't justify their behaviour!

  • @monicatomlinson4392
    @monicatomlinson4392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a sad horrific case all round. Poor Angela, breaks my heart. I hope she is in peace now. Those 2 girls are/will always be dangerous, imo. The care system fails many!

  • @mudskippa8958
    @mudskippa8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant, brilliant intro. Thank you for raising these issues. 10 years in recovery from alcoholism here and 15 in recovery from self harm. Still working on the loveless childhood that triggered it all.

  • @elliel3700
    @elliel3700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Emma, I don’t know if you read your comments or if I should email but you should research the infamous Irish case of “Ana Kriegel”. It’s still very fresh in our minds and it’s truly horrifying. The anonymity, drawings of violence and media driven issues is very similar to the Snapchat killers.
    Great video.

  • @immybae444
    @immybae444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive been binging your videos for three days now. I LOVE your content

    • @EmmaKennyTV
      @EmmaKennyTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love this ❤️❤️ loads too come xx

  • @Lillie-mae.Edwards
    @Lillie-mae.Edwards 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I was in care for a long and even though I was surrounded by people. I felt so alone and was so unwell but I have a better life now. It’s possible aha.

  • @georginamaher2450
    @georginamaher2450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving your content each and every time I watch :) I've watched you in tons of crime shows before but so chuffed that you have your own platform now and you can go into more depth :) x

  • @lisawegener2664
    @lisawegener2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Haven’t heard of this case before, so glad your covered it now Emma x

  • @erinrowe304
    @erinrowe304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all your work & for uploading twice a week, I totally hang out for each new episode ♥️

  • @callycatus
    @callycatus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thankyou Emma for telling Angela's story 💖

  • @katbagley3214
    @katbagley3214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew a lady like Angie while I was growing up. She lived in the block of flats next to ours. Vanessa her name was, She was a lovely sweet lady just like Angie. She used to give me and my cousin 20p each to "get some penny sweets" but some people on our estate were nasty to her, they'd chuck rubbish at her and call her a piss head or smack head (she didn't even take drugs) once she was stumbling around the street drunk and a young lad shoved her over into the road with an oncoming car, it near ran her over. I heard on Facebook she died about 5yrs ago, her liver gave up on her. People like her and Angie don't deserve to be treated like that 💔

  • @Julie44Inlouisiana
    @Julie44Inlouisiana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your take on these cases. You always bring something new to the table. Thank you Emma 😊

  • @BlitzdUK
    @BlitzdUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in the care system from age 1.5yrs til a day before my 18th so I can fully relate to kids in care getting criminal convictions because they have intense mental health issues and have outbursts. I’m now 28, diagnosed with Autism, attachment disorder, Borderline personality disorder, acute depression with anxiety and PTSD. I wish I had a normal childhood because I doubt I would have suffered with any of these conditions otherwise. Love your content Emma! Keep up the good work xx

  • @gypsea23
    @gypsea23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your insight, experience and sheer ease of conversing is so enjoyable...thank you Emma for another lovely video! 🥰

  • @Rowiiexx
    @Rowiiexx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This reminds me of the American case of Cindy Collier & Shirley Wolf - 2 teenage girls who savagely murdered an innocent elderly lady who simply let them in because they asked to use her phone. Those girls had really troubled backgrounds too and hadn’t known each other long before they committed the murder

  • @Deryn-Emily
    @Deryn-Emily 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Emma - "you never know you might one be serving them a cup of tea in your house"
    That's why I don't invite people to my house 😂😂

  • @debrashelton9846
    @debrashelton9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this type of character so well I'm 54 and have lived all my life in the area where we always had Angela it's heartbreaking to know she had zero self worth and must of felt so unloved thanks for this case emma you presented it with warmth ❤️

  • @meganaspden7771
    @meganaspden7771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Emma you have such respect and insight into the human condition, I learn from you every day xxx

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shame nobody gave Angela flowers when she could see them.

    • @maximumeffort78
      @maximumeffort78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment has so much meaning in its simplicity ♥️

  • @jewellerylove
    @jewellerylove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was an independent film released in the mid 90s called “Fun”. It was about 2 young teenage girls who go on a crime spree one day, which leads to them brutally murdering an older lady. It was shocking and stuck with me for a long time afterwards.
    Hearing the girls giggling on the phone with emergency services in this case made me think of that film. For the film characters it was fun to take things too far and to release their pent up anger and frustration. They pushed one another along so that they did more together than they would’ve done on their own. I think that’s what happened in this case.

  • @_v-.
    @_v-. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's such a good point you raised about some people finding prison better than anything that normal life in society offers. There are literally thousands of people who feel like this nowadays, weather its because of homelessness or loneliness it's really sad. Thanks Emma, I tune in every Wednesday and Sunday (or soon as I can afterwards) really enjoy the delivery as well as the content. 👍😁

  • @deadheadwannabe6874
    @deadheadwannabe6874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Victim blaming..I excaped a serial killer. I jumped from a car naked in the middle of the desert. I flagged down a car for help. I was cut up bad. The paramedic said I was lieing. It was a trick gone bad. All the cared about was WHY I got in the car with him,not WHAT happened. Luckily no one listened to her but she was the one who transported me from the desert to the hospital telling me I was a liar..this guy was going to rape,and kill me but I lied about WHY I got in the car..it hurt my soul. The cop who came,I told him what she was saying. He held my hand and said he didn't believe her and he was happy I was okay. Victim blaming sucks. My PTSD is mostly from her. The one who was supposed to save me. I spent 30 minutes on the way to the hospital telling my story to her over and over. But she kept telling me it was a trick gone bad and you know that..she killed me

  • @jennig8336
    @jennig8336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I missed most of it live😞 Looking forward to watching it. Thank you Emma.

  • @staceyjayneplatt9527
    @staceyjayneplatt9527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Powerful and thought provoking I 100% agree Emma,delivered with passion and so professional x

  • @sheribrougham4863
    @sheribrougham4863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said it. Grief is not just about loosing a love one. Grief is definately about not getting what you should have as a child such as emotional connection and protection. Live it daily.

  • @emmasjellycatcollection
    @emmasjellycatcollection 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Adore your grace and respect.
    Thank you Emma
    Xx

  • @jude9623
    @jude9623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No body regardless of their current situation deserves to be so viciously attacked. 13 and 14, even at that age they know better. they are NOT fit for any societal interaction. I hope they serve a very horrible time incarcerator. at 13 and 14 they should still have the HUMAN GENE that knows this is not acceptable. Junior psychos need to be in solitary confinement. I understand why the first Jury needed to be replaced. I can't find the words I need to describe my real feelings for Angela. PS Emma I love the compassion you illustrate for the victims. The animals that caused these tragedies will get so much more compassion than they have shown other victims. Many of us have had much less than ideal family lives and we don't go homicidal!

  • @henrygingercat
    @henrygingercat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember one of the defence team for Venables and Thompson saying (I'm sure with deliberate provocation) that he's always astonished at the outrage when children kill because, as children, their sense of morality, self-control and empathy are very immature. It's when grown adults kill that we should be horrified. It's an interesting point.

  • @debbleu
    @debbleu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video! Thank you so much!!!

  • @anitapollard1627
    @anitapollard1627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job of covering this case, Em!

  • @helenjohnson231
    @helenjohnson231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your compassionate and empathic telling of this sad story Emma, the world was too hard for broken souls like Angela and you really get that across🤗

  • @bethanybraithwaite882
    @bethanybraithwaite882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was your best video yet!! Watched it twice already. 💜

  • @lindahamilton4319
    @lindahamilton4319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Emma, Your coverage and narrative and style in the telling of this story was superb! I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis and insights into everyone's psychology and the contributing aggravating factors that may have played a part in the committing of such a tragic and pointless crime.

  • @mariehernandez8431
    @mariehernandez8431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this episode. I totally can relate to her pain. I’ve felt all those things. Grief and loneliness is important to address. 👍🏻🌻❤️

  • @sophj95
    @sophj95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No justice at all in the UK, it makes me sick and ashamed of this country! We need to get a grip and bring in the death penalty, they should never walk the streets again! Murder is murder whether its done by an adult or a child, they are evil regardless and should be locked up for good.

  • @BlendedBarbieDoll
    @BlendedBarbieDoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d love to hear you cover Shanda Schearer. You do cases so much justice in you deep dive into mental health and the struggles of these younger killers. You’d do this case brilliantly.
    James Bulger, Snapchat killers, Shanda Schearer all heartbreaking and interesting crimes committed by children. We may never know the real why? Behind these horrible murders.

    • @rantersparadise
      @rantersparadise 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erm EVERY one of them came from deprived and abusive homes......kinda a clue

    • @melissam597
      @melissam597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Monroe not all of them

  • @deadheadwannabe6874
    @deadheadwannabe6874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please do an update on the two boys who killed the two year old. This will piss you off. One didn't do well at all. He was pampered while in ( jail.. LoL) when in there he had sex with a teacher. He gets out and is arrested I believe twice for child porn..the other kid I believe is trying. Married and no arrests..the killer we're protected but not the victim..

  • @elizabethgray5624
    @elizabethgray5624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tears😪😪😪 posting chocolate bars a heart of gold buried in all her chaos ❤

  • @sharryaustin3278
    @sharryaustin3278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you again Emma for another great video. What a sad case.

  • @Andreaworthington2023
    @Andreaworthington2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another well done, I do wonder if psychologists have language lessons because your tones and language is always so enthralling

  • @Kiera_1987
    @Kiera_1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the courts gave them the names "Olivia" and "Yasmin" for reference purposes? The O in Olivia referring to the Older girl and the Y in Yasmin referring to the younger girl?

  • @dannysstart2218
    @dannysstart2218 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i think that hidding their faces just is bad, it puts other people in danger. i mean look at people who are paraded in press and found innocent why should these selfish vile girls get to just move on like nothing happend?

  • @sarahkenny3053
    @sarahkenny3053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hate to say, I’ve never heard of this case…looking forward to hear Emma telling the story (in the best possible way I mean..) x

  • @7vernessa
    @7vernessa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    They hid when people came in they knew exactly what they were doing .

    • @Vanessa2uk
      @Vanessa2uk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly how can’t anyone defend the girls. X

  • @ruthadams6390
    @ruthadams6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Emma,This was harrowing to listen to and made me fill up.Poor poor Angela, Her giving the kids chocolate bars is so poignant and was a really lovely trait.youre so compassionate,Emma.I love your channel xx

  • @sonnieM
    @sonnieM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how you tell us about her life..lts so sad ☹️

  • @jessicaellina3878
    @jessicaellina3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    IMO those evil cowards brutally killed Angela simply because they could... frail and vulnerable like crushing a kitten underfoot... not because they saw their future selves in her... she was worth a thousand of those two savages. I can understand the outpouring of rage in those messages you read out. Unfortunately vile açts bring out the worst reactions in normally placid people like myself. This story was harrowing.... RIP sweet Angela 💖

  • @thehaglin
    @thehaglin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous content as usual! As tragic as all these cases are, the psychology behind them all is absolutely fascinating. Emma, you have a knack of presenting the human side to these monstrous acts. Always thought provoking. Most of these cases, especially in the case of young perpetrators, have something to teach us all. Not that parents carry 100% of the blame 100% of the time, they do shoulder their part of the culpability burden. We as a society should be paying close attention to be able to make the necessary adjustments to try our best to mitigate the destructive circumstances and behaviors affecting our youth. It’s all to easy to label deviants as bad seeds instead of pulling together the possible circumstances and events which shape them. The ol’ nature vs. nature argument is more relevant today than ever.

  • @Emo_Barbi
    @Emo_Barbi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was in the system i was in and out of foster care most of my younger life my dad adopted me well his wife and he abandoned me at 16 stayed with mum she abandoned me at 17 your programmed help me understand certain things like how the child would behave being in foster home like abandonment I'm understanding more why i am the way I have why I have abandonment issues etc😊
    You help me understand my thoughts and behaviors why I acted the way I did 😢

  • @yasminal-jarrah5727
    @yasminal-jarrah5727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is lovely,, Emma, that you have connected to viewers with your sensitive understanding of the tragic, sad lives of the victim and the perpetrators in this case.

  • @breanapadilla3661
    @breanapadilla3661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will never agree with keeping their names out of the press. There is absolutely no reason to protect a viscious murderer, no matter what age. If they really can be rehabilitated (doubt it) then they can admit what they did and take their licks. If you are rehabilitated you don't try to hide what you did. You admit it, take your punishment, and strive to do better. By protecting these murderers you're telling them they did nothing wrong. "People might not like what you did, so we are going to protect you. That way you can live a nice life without harassment." That is what protecting a murderer says.

  • @jesssnow3109
    @jesssnow3109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t believe I just found this one. Great coverage as always Emma, thank you. Also, off topic completely.. loving the top you are wearing! 😍