Wing Chun vs Krav Maga | Unbelievable fight
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- Wing Chun and Krav Maga are both highly effective fighting styles with very different origins, however like with a lot of martial arts there’s some crossover here and Krav Maga takes inspiration from Wing Chun. So is this a case of the student becoming the master or does the original take the crown between these two. Which of these is more effective and which would win in a fight. We’re going to detail the origins of both of these technically brilliant martial arts, detail their main features then pit them against each other in a hypothetical fight to see which would win.
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@@ncwilddocumentary4202 for a littles of my my phone is dead to my my mom is is the
You talk of Krav Maga "eye gouge" yet remain ignorant of the fact the Wing Chun form Biu Chi (flying Fingers) features eye gouges, maybe you should have researched Wing Chun a little more. Wing Chun is also taught to elite military forces like the SAS...
@Frankiln Castle Great comment! People only know the "Fatshan Hands" through successful commercialisation. Only a few decades ago you'd be thrown out of a school if you mentioned Bruce Lee, now everyone is selling themselves on the [loose] connection, when before they would tell us Bruce didn't learn all of Wing Chun, now they use the photo's to promote themselves as the style that Bruce Lee learned. Funny how the narrative changes, all over Asia Wing Chun is different [and yet the same], I have seen it in several South East Asian countries outside of China...
@@ninjashinobi2413 Well done
Legends has it people are still waiting the unbelievable fight you promised
I hate false propaganda
Don't forget to like and subscribe before we get to that fight
Thats me
I can't believe you made me believe in an unbelievable fight
All I needed was this comment, thank you.
This video is labeled "Unbelievable fight!" WHERE'S THE FIGHT!?
You got click baited
In the youtube comment section lol
@@Smorccc made me die laughing
Get used to it. TH-cam is littered by false advertirsement
The title bears false witness. No respect.
I have been practicing Wing Chun for 18 years and I have incredible respect for Krav Maga. It truly comes down to the individual. We all have 2 fists and 2 legs. Style may dictate method but we use the same tools. Both styles emphasize brutality and aggression when faced with danger. I feel both are effective when equally trained. I did crack up when the narrator mentioned honor in Chinese martial arts. Wing Chun on the surface is nothing more than dirty boxing. We cheat and deliver every low blow presented. The only honor is in going home safe. I salute my Krav Maga brothers in sharing that mentality.
I’ve practiced Krav Maga for 23 years and have incredible respect for Wing Chun. I cracked up when he basically called Krav Maga unbeatable failing to realize no martial art is or ever will be unbeatable.
Yeah, totally agree. I've practiced Jeet Jun Do, Muay Thai and now train in Krav Maga. My wife keeps asking me which is "better". There is no black and white answer. It depends on the individuals involved and the circumstance of the fight. However, I will say, Krav Maga covers the widest breadth of possible scenarios and attacks/defenses. But that could also mean that unless you are a master, there is just so much to learn that you aren't great at all the techniques; unlike Muay Thai, which has far less to learn but is brutally effective if mastered. So yeah, it depends. 🤷♂
@@mgs721 when it comes to compare disciplines like aikido, wing chun or Krav Maga yes... there is no black or white.
But when you compare these 3 with boxing, bjj or Muay Thai... of course you can see the white and black.
I've studied several art forms, including Wing Chun, TKD, BJJ, Krav Maga. Considering I'm in my late 60's now, Krav Maga is the only one that makes sense to me any more. Most of the movements from the other forms I can't do any longer, but I can still do Krav. It all boils down to the individual in the fight, and what they're capable of. One thing that is good about Krav Maga is that you don't have to be a world class athlete to do the movements. All of the movements are simple and basic. It's a very simple, and effective art form that can be mastered by almost anyone, especially an old fart like myself who can't do a decent kick any longer. lol.
@@carlschnackel3051 The problem I see about Krav Maga is that is difficult to check your real abilities when in most of the gyms that offer this discipline there is no sparring. It shows you how to do different movements to complete a coreography when the person you are practicing with is told to hit you in a specific way, in slow motion and in a certain place of your body.
Real life is not like this. There is caos and is difficult to predict what the oponent is going to do and thats why it does not matter how many times you try a movement because when you face a real life scenario the probabilities on someone kicking or hiting you the same way as during training is really low.
I would just like to add that wing chun is fully loaded with eye gouges, throat strikes and groin strikes, just like Krav Maga wing Chun looks to finish the fight as quickly and effectively by any means necessary, directness of action and economy of movement. respect to all Martial arts.
Eye gouges is my favorite on bigger guys.Short cuts works best.
Wing chun really good for self defense. I study it for awhile. I have been attack by clients that I work for. It’s good for blocking, redirecting, and controlling the hands. I can’t follow up strikes or I lose my job.
Yes, Robert. That makes this video a bit one sided with not including that Wing Chun does have those same types of strikes as Krav Maga.
@@GVH1305 suuuuuuuuuree lmao. Wanna name a few places like that? Great for some Dojo storming
@@NandoWasabi damn what line of work are you in?
“It’s not about style. It’s about you.” Ip man
It's also about your opponent. No matter how good you are, if your opponent is better, he can whip your ass. The path to a championship is strewn with ex-champions.
YES! Exactly!
Yees i just say Ipman!!! And thats the answer to Everythang. Zak Sweden Malmoe city. L&R
Very much true in my experience. 🙂
exactly if you are a good 150 Lb Win Chun taking on a Good 240Lb Krav Maga 7 out of 10 Times Krav Maga will win..
It all depends on the skill set and abilities of the practioner. No matter what the style. Krav Maga or Wing Chun could win.
Agreed! Some vids say wing chun/ krav maga is useless, and some say they are brutally effective. In the end it's just how you change/adapt techniques on the spot during an attack. But take my opinion with a pinch of salt cos I don't know neither of these martial arts
Appsolutely.👍
Intent wins.
If you train as a sport you fight like it's a sport. Train like its life or death you fight like its life or death.
@@gdolphy no better comment then yours
Charles that is not true. neither one is martial arts. Most ppl have no clue about what martial arts is. especially karate practitioners. Wing chun is kung fu, not gung-fu which is martial arts. KM is basically a mixture of fragmented self defenses and will not work against a martial artist. That is a real martial artist who knows PaQua kuntao style the only martial arts from Shaolin. Wing chun was never practiced in northern or southern Shaolin
What's in your heart wins a fight...what's in your head keeps you out of fights....
Excellent saying.Hopefully more people will learn that.
Wing Chun has eye gouging too. And it also emphasizes on neutralizing the opponent as quickly and as effectively as possible, by any means necessary.
Quite right! The conclusion of this video doesn't make sense.
The entire third form in wing chun is called shooting fingers, eye gauging and winning in street fights and in close quarters is exactly what wing chun teaches. Surprised your researchers didn’t mention that.
Bil gi....
@@Steve-qi7ek biu gi
Hmmm. OK. 👍
Me too. BC wing chun emanates from gung-fu that practice "in fighting". In gung-fu you have arm and leg immobilization technics that counter wing chun since wing chun was made for females a female. Bt whatever your practice is what works for you. My Instructor said toe that one self defense move is not better than another. He said what makes it different is that the movements in gung-fu are superior to all the rest since they all come from gung-fu.
@@personalinsanity2238 "Biu Gee (thrusting/darting fingers) is sometimes also referred to as Biu Tse, Biu Jee or even Bil Gee. The different ways to spell it, arise because it is hard to Romanise (put into Latin or western letters) Cantonese speech. Despite the different spellings the pronunciation in Cantonese is the same." you're both right
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face".
That's where plan B comes in: Punch back.
@@alanesser6440 I follow ... but I am not going to tell Mike Tyson he is wrong.
Exactly right! That's where character and state of mind makes the difference. That is the key for winning a real fight. I have seen very skilled fighters in the dojo, who would not have any change of winning a real street fight against a real agressor. Of course fighting skills do make a big difference, but it all starts (and ends) in the mind..🙂
I can top Mike's statement. "Everybody has a plan until they get shot in the head".😂😂😂
@@aroonramcharitar6396 You are too good for us. LoL. Respects.
Golden rule: it’s not the technique who wins a fight, it’s the fighter. It all comes down to the individual. No matter the art you practice if you don’t practice enough.
you're right. it's not about the techniques. it is all on the individual.
so why don't any of these fake "martial arts" teach the individuals how to actually fight? but instead. waste their Paying customers! time with flashy looking techniques the instructors can't eve use to defend themselves with?
as evidenced by the fact none of them have ever fought or sparred before. or are too embarrased or dishonest to display their skills by fighting or sparring now.
and why is it, that the only "traditional" martial arts i can find sparring, or fight footage for. excluding karate, sanda and taekwondo. is wing chun. and why do the wing chun practitioners look no better than weekend warriors, like from rough'n'rowdy when they actually do spar or get into "street fights". or look like trained boxers, kickboxers or mma fighters who do actual real competitive fight training. clearly displaying they train something completely different?
could it be. that they are fraudulent?!?!?!
Not true, I reckon if you put a world class boxer in an mma ring with a world class wrestler I think the wrestler would win.
@@joeyflat1452 not necessarily. the reason you think that is because all MMA fighters. even the gracies. actually had standup experience and training. No one goes in with no standup. although MMA fighters for the most part aren't that great at striking either.
a real wrestler fighting a boxer, or dedicated striker would look like a rough'n'rowdy "warrior" up until the point he feels comfortable trying a takedown. and the reality is. he might not be able to emotionally keep it together enough to do better than "Milling" wildly, if he has very limited standup sparring or combat experience.
Funny how the fighters that win all the fights just happen to train combat sports…
It helps to have experience on the streets. It's a whole different mindset.
I've practiced a blend of many things for close to 45 years. I always see martial arts like having a suit tailored just for you. Once you become aware of your physical limitations your ability to defend yourself must "suit" your needs and limitations. Jung Fan Jeet Kune Do takes the beauty of Wing Chun and the brutality of Krav Maga and makes for a good blend of self-defense.
Yes, exactly, whatever you study, it must be tailored to you, flow, and be tested!
Thank you for sharing the information.
I’ve studied Wing Chun for 6 years and always wanted to study Krav Maga. This was an interesting video. However, had an enormous flaw. There isn’t a single component to Wing Chun that tries to bring a defeat with honor to an opponent. Learning how to tear out a jugular during my first 6 months comes to mind.
Precisely.
KM is hard on the body especially the little fingers, joints too as BJJ involved. Class friend went from KM to Wing Chun as easier on body but discovered the power involved if you hit an attacker is unreal!
I've been learning jiu-jitsu for almost 2 years and breaking someone's arm or leg or putting them to sleep I'd say is pretty effective.
You just told us you never been in a real fight in your life, particularly one with real danger.
😅🤣😂...tear out a jugular? 😆😅🤣
There's no such thing as a superior style of combat, it depends on the person who is superior at the moment.
Very true indeed. I can remember reading about a 1990's heavy contact 'all styles' tournament. Heaps competed.....the winner was a Taekwondo do practitioner......a style that is somewhat regarded by some as impractical.
Loads of skills, good strength - not so many skills, amazing strength.
Fairly fair fight.
But in equal conditions. Cough cough
Bull....
Actually, there is and you can see when someone is truly outclassed with superior techniques. But that would mean they both have to have reached a certain level of fighting ability, most of the time it comes down to the individual fighters but there are superior styles as well.
I practiced Krav Maga for several years and feel it is a great form of self defense without the complexity of many other forms of martial art.
100000% in other styles you don't focus on taking someone out as much, more just how to fight someone. That being said, Kung fu is the budget bin crap of the martial arts world....next to aikido
@@moonstryder1740
El krav maga tampoco funciona, es igual que el wing chun
I am not concerned with the man who knows a thousand techniques. I am concerned with the man who has practiced “one” technique a “thousand” times.
deep. balls deep.
Pay respects to the author of that quote, for FK sakes!
With all due respect, dozens of kung fu arts have been brutally eye-gouging and killing people as quickly as possible (often within three moves) a good time before the First Testament was written! ;)
just lol dude.
Neither fighting style is better it just depends on who's more skilled at what they do
For example: there's a boxer that trains boxing for 10 years goes up against a MMA fighter that is only trained for one year would win
…
half there
The truest Factor that determines who will win in a Fight is Willpower.
The biggest Strongest man in the world will be *Beaten to death by the hands of a man 2 feet smaller than him* if his Will to survive is that much lower.
Size can be manipulated against you.
Strength can be manipulated against you.
Speed can even be manipulated against you.
All the matters is who in the fight is willing to Die to Win.
Get behind a body builder, kick his knee from the back as hard as you can, and his own body weight will shatter his knee cap on descent, effectively ending the fight *And* his Bodybuilding career for the rest of his life.
Size means nothing against Raw Will power.
False
If I use the martial art of "gunnin-you-down" I would win
That is true, it seems this has become the age of pitting martial arts against each other, something that started when MMA and Gracie jujitsu came in. This has caused most martial arts to be discriminated against especially the traditional systems. Martial arts has lost the respect of being arts of self-defense . They have now become arts of savages and self glory.
@@khamariblair7284 Martial Arts were only ever Self-Defense techniques for those who weren’t supposed to have that knowledge.
Lol, Martial Arts can be traced back to India over 15,000 years ago, starting with Kalaripayatu.
The Indians believe Kalari is literally the remnants of the fighting tactics of Haré Krishna’s armies that “Harnessed the Power of Shakti to put an end of the Influence of Shiva once and for all.”
Supposedly, the Ancient City of Krishna was obliterated and sank into the sea due to the ferocious battle, and the mortals who survived in India Thus developed Kalaripayatu from the remaining knowledge of this “Before Time.”
Kalari then was stolen by the Far East as trade routes were re-developed and the Chinese encountered skirmishes with Kalari Practitioners.
Thus, Karate was born from the teachings of Kalari.
Doesnt it seem weird that the Indians invented Kalari, and then suddenly their neighbors started practicing “Karate” several thousand years later, and yet Indians are hardly ever given credit for inventing Martial Arts?
"Dont afraid to the warrior who knew many styles but afraid to the warrior who explored one style is seriously" ~Lie Syo Bun~
I have tried both styles. They are both very effective, each in a different way, but both work.(greetings from GREECE )
Kalispera , I do not speak Greek but have great passion for the music .
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I’m a fourth degree brown belt in Krav Maga working my black belt currently. I hope one day to learn wing chun as to incorporate it in my krav. I see a strong synergy between them both.
like bruce lee said "Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own"
@Phuii Gaming 🤣🤣🤣
Wing Chun effectiveness depends greatly on the teacher. Some teachers focus more on the art, others on the martial.
My Sifu was very principles based, and incorporateed kickboxing footwork/principles where it became a MMA style with wing Chun base... currently a brown sash.
Physical fitness sessions, and Also put on pads frequently to allow for contact training, not just dummies and 'soft' training, heavy bag training, etc
Like every martial art/ defense style, they all can be effective if you learn from a good teacher.
@@huey7437 and the person that uses it
@@huey7437 so Jeet kune Do then?
"cobra snake and crane bird" Doesn't need the words snake and bird
Uhhh. Yeah they do.
Snake Stance means literally *Nothing.*
Is it Water Snake Stance, Shadow Snake Stance, King Cobra Snake Stance, Golden Snake Stance, Or Snake Fu Stance?
Also, is it Crane Stance? Eagle Stance? Falcon Stance? Imperial Hawk Stance?
*Or,* to get even more detailed: is it *Black Crane* Stance, Grey Heron Stance, or Green Heron Stance?
Green heron is *Purely and Solely* about Leg stance. A master of the Green Heron Stance could fight most opponents with his hands literally tied behind his back.
Black Crane Stance is a combination of the Water Snake and Mantis Stances, so as to allow for Fast, repetitive hand strikes, whilst also limply moving like a snake
Yeah, like cobra snake with scales and crane bird with feathers
😂
@@jamiebrown1991 they said snake or bird not cobra or crane idiot
This is surprising to me that this form was developed in my great-grandmothers country. I have experience in wrestling from middle school and high school and in my early years I trained in martial arts because I was tired of getting beat up when I was homeless. Now people think that I am crazy because I take the fight to a new level. Next week I will be starting my training in krav maga. I will take this very serious since I now know that this comes from my nationality.
you shouldn't be comparing these styles they both work.
Like the guy below said:
It's not about style. it's about you.-IpMan
krav maga is more brutality than wing chun ....they are both .. awesome
Hey, I came to see a fight not clickbait!
And yes, there are styles that are more complex than others but that doesn't mean they're neither useful nor beautiful.
Wing Chun was developed during a civil war, used as a system to quickly teach a resistance force, using eye gouges and throat strikes as well. It's purpose is similarly to quickly dispatch an opponent, like few seconds, ideally. Obviously most Wing Chun practitioners in the modern day aren't great, similar can be said about many Krav Maga practitioners as well. Honestly in general the same can be said about nearly every martial artists that's out there because most are hobbyists not fighters, nothing wrong with that but context matters heavily as we can't knock the systems because of hobbyists as even modern systems are beginning to be flooded with similar hobbyists who will water down the quality over time.
But all in all, Wing Chun and Krav Maga have quite a bit in common, except that Krav Maga is more modern and applies more to modern weapon disarms such as rifles and handguns etc. Both use similar striking methods, at times similar power methods, similar structure, Krav Maga's 360 defense thing they do is really similar to Wing Chun just using gaan sau, taan sau, and biu sau as deflections.
So really, I'd say both are comparable if practiced in the context of life and death. Wing Chun is essentially the same as many other martial arts out there, but more compact, keeping a tighter guard, and minimizing motion required to achieve the same effect. So it shouldn't look robotic as people are used to seeing. In the end, it'd look probably kind of similar to what you'd see Krav Maga doing, or maybe Escrima. Obviously there's differences, but it'd be similar enough where someone without a lot of experience would potentially mistake them or believe that they may have taken ideas from each other.
I've studied martial arts for about 45 years, various styles, methods. I've stuck in the Karate arena mostly however I believe that sticking to one thing is dangerous. Wing Chun has been my all-time favorite style aside from Karate. I have only studied Krav Maga a little bit on youtube, however, I realize that Krav Maga is technically a young art whereas Wing Chun is not. It would be a little difficult to neutralize your opponent when an iron fist is displacing your cranium or something.
Excellent comment. My respect.
I’m from UECHI RYU Karate Do. Which Karate Do style did you practice?
@@sgoldon3886 Tae Kwon Do
Clickbait much?! There’s no fight.
It's like a what if kinda thing doesn't matter anyway no one martial art is better though I participate in Krav Maga and would like to see it win😆
Summer 2019 I found an Israeli special forces Krav Maga instructor in Brooklyn and was so excited to train with him. I previously studied 13 years of TKD, TSD, and Hapkido. With Krav Maga I left after 2 months. Everything we learned was to kill or maim. There was no emphasis on controlling your opponent/attacker or submissions. It was kill or maim and run away. One of the asst instructors was a cop and after he taught moves he would tell us that if we used this we better believe we were facing death because we would be arrested and prosecuted for using the technique. I can understand a soldier learning this style but for straight up self defense I prefer Hapkido or BJJ (which I don't know) where you can control the attacker and choose how much pain or injury to cause without ending up in jail for defending myself.
Krav Maga would never stand out in MMA fighting with rules but in a battle to the death it's a different story.
Thats what krav maga is designed for though. Its a self defence system, not a martial art. It is designed to eliminate the threat as quickly as possible using any means necessary. Whether you hurt someone real bad or not is irrespective to Krav.
I have always admired how the martial arts focus on a way of life, balance, health and honor and respect. But in the streets it's no holds barred. You need to be ready to fight dirty because your opponent will.
Martial art is an art. It is about you getting better in a situation that you do not need or can fight .. So you practice it the way that makes sense. Relative safety and being able to make as many people pracitce it as possible On the other hand if you know that you want to kill then you use different approach. So there is no oppsition here. Synergy . They are like peace time training and wartime ttraining. There is a difference, ha?
I practiced both, still love both and would continue to practice them for rest of my days.
'Unbelievable' fight? What fight? Did I miss something?
Same opinion where is the fight bull shit video
Yes. It was so fast you missed it. Next time, watch faster.
@@matthewk6731 Lol watch faster. I'm going to use it
I took Kung Fu for awhile (after Judo, Karate, and tikwondo). Everything was a target, as the teachers were geared towards street fighting. Also, dedicated martial artists tend to learn one style when, then go one to pick and choose techniques from other martial arts. As such, I agree with other comments that it depends more on the person and their skill set rather than comparing rigid styles - especially their sport versions. My karate instructor didn’t participate in the sport version, as reflexive accepted targets differed. Either way, I would want to be face to face with either in a street fight.
As a student of Krav Maga training on average 3 times a week for nearly 4 years I can say unequivocally that Krav Maga borrowed effectively zero from Wing Chun. With one single caveat. KM 360 defence applies the **principle** of simultaneous defence and attack with the block/strike technique to defend against a haymaker punch or low round stabbing attack to the abdomen. Block with one hand while striking the throat with the other while bursting in and sprinting away to the non-weapon/striking hand side to escape.
All other techniques in the KM syllabus are the fundamentals of Boxing, Muay Thai, Judo, Wrestling and a variety of techniques developed by the Krav Maga founders, and still evolving.
99% you won't disarmed a knife.
Use a newspaper or racket to defend being stabbed. Only high caliber shaolin can disarm knife
🤦♀️ oh shut up.
What are you talking about? disarm a knife with a side step and I headbutt if the circumstances are right no matter what style you use it's called improvising reflexes, if you get ahold of someone's arm no matter if they have a knife in there hand or not it doesn't take much pressure to make him drop it.
@@wesleywillis3914 oh shut up.
Even if you win against a knife you will get cut . A wise men once told me use you 2 feet and run like hell.🙂
@@florese4804 I've been in a situation but sure I'll shut up, these comments are ridiculous it's not hard to disarm a knife from someone a knife is a joke I've had people pull knives on me and once they seen I wasn't backing down they would run, the only kind of person that would come at you with a weapon is a coward, I don't claim to be no master martial artist just someone who's been in several situations where people have came at me with weapons and failed miserably believe whatever you want it's your right but it's not hard to disarm someone with a knife I promise, but if this person with the knife is coming at you aggressively and you don't have faith in yourself and you feel that you're going to get hurt yes your best bet is to run, and not rely on any type or style of martial arts, that's what the side step and head butt was referring to wasn't literally a method to dodge someone coming at you with a knife, just that a knife can be desarmed easily,some people don't have that mentality they see a blade and they panic if that's you don't depend on any type of martial arts or newspaper's to help you in that situation if you don't have it in you and just get out of there!
As Ip Man said in the movie it's not about Northern or Southern style, its you.
Exactly bud....heres my translation to what you said .....( let's say sum1 wants to run a marathon. But only one guy trains once a week while eating Cheetos... And your opponent runs and trains 6 out of 7 days a week.. All I gotta say is DUUHHH.. You might Finnish the race on hands and knees crawling across the Finnish.. But the one who wants it more and has more motivation and fortitude will litteraly walk all over ya ass lol.... )!!
It depends on the practitioner. Training, experience and power of the practitioner are the elements of winning, you can learn any style with a good master but it depends on you how do you recall and apply what you have learned in a real fight, the memory of the body always developed by training and experience whatever the style you are using. I am a wing chun practitioner and I respect all fighting styles, however, both styles have a lot of similarities in methodology, both of them cannot be turned into sports, they are designed for life protection not for competitions.
Well said, and not dissimilar to what I wrote above. "either style 'could' win depending on the environment, individual participants and their particular state of mind/body/etc."
That fight was so fast between the Krav Maga master and the Wing Chun master that you couldn't even see it in the video!
Man I'll tell ya what.... I wish I could go back in time and just meet talk and hang out with the true master ( ip man) he just seems to me like he's got a lot of knowledge to teach even today...plus he's an absolutely king of his art of martial Arts!!!
it's just a comparison, somehow you can't see the fight,
it's like comparing a brick to a domino cube
...
I really wanted to see the match. We were fooled.
Good point. Still educational.
@@brokentombot Kung fu is better because wing chun is not just wing chun and kung fu boxing is not just boxing. The reason it isn't just boxing is to do the things krav is meant to be good at by developing attributes not just techniques that fill in gaps between the different kung fu styles using energy sensitivity. Kung fu styles are different yet the same wing chun is separate in theory matches at kung fu gatherings but even wing chun is mostly what is wing chun Its white crane a different style snake white eyebrow all different but it's not an upgrade 2.0 it's also while it's different it's the same you combine it with other shaolin and that includes hungar Mongolian styles in shaolin kickboxing in shaolin the basis of karate ... but the skills aren't only techniques they are attrubutes to deliver krav maga like efforts with better awareness and better results because they are techniques but not really they are mostly attributes. Attributes make you better at everything you do because it's not a technique it's a general skill. Not everyone teaches it that way but that's the right way to teach it. It makes you a better fighter overall by allowing you to be inclusive not exclusive. So wing chun works best in wing chun ... and shows you that but it never goes in without the other styles. That inclusion in shaolin makes it what it actually even is. That way it mixes best with jiu jitsu due to the diversity and grappling attributes that are in between styles.
Being exclusive is what some teach ... You need even other grappling energy theory even in just kung fu to even make wing chun work let alone techniques ... in the end you see it's not techniques but better control of attributes and skills overall.
While krav maga is mostly techniques and will ... It's easily just how you do that ... for instance when I fight it's kind of street because that's where I learned ... ie trading a kick to my back with an uppercut or head clinch... mixed with bridging and ubiquity of attribute skills from kung fu as well as boxing and kicking diversity ... then my grappling is the gamut bjj but mixed with the older aikido old jiu jitsu exact judo applications. I learned bjj and shaolin first wing chun is simply a type of shaolin.
@@brokentombot I know nobody in the world listens about kung fu partially because IT IS complicated so unless you see and understand it you don't know the value, but it's the fixes and in between skills. Once you understand the outside attributes that fix gate blocking and grappling too ... that make traps work instead of repeat you then learn the same attributes that create a freedom where you don't need to trap at all to have the same benefits. I don't ever suggest going to battle though with just one lone type of shaolin which wing chun is ... That's only for the temple or theory fun fights. You go in with jiu jitsu and all of kung fu chin na judo aikido etc.
@@brokentombot With Krav it's a standalone art but that's not true with wing chun though I meet people like that. Kung fu is meant to be used as a specialty along with other kung fu and jiu jitsu or chin na which is the root of jiu jitsu and bjj too.
Glen Levy said, it's not who is fastest in practice or even fastest that day; it's who is fastest in that second.
It’s great to see a MARTIAL art evolving and that it is open to receive new information and thus remaining dynamic in its continuing unfoldment. Respect.
I’ve been trained in a variety of MARTIAL arts (one being Wing Chun techniques) so appreciate the perspective.
I would give it to Krav Maga. It was meant for life and death situations against murderous people who persecuted the practitioners. I happen to practice Krav Maga and it has more direct moves than Wing Chun. I would have continued if my master had not died of a heart attack.
I train both styles and try to make them consciously/unconsciously flow into each other so that they complement each other
That is the way to go.. Also fighting style usually has strikes and throws and so on... Not just one...
Train in multiple styles. Be versatile. And always break a leg, arm quickly to end the threat.
Same. They really do compliment each other. Both give each other just a little more efficient and and extra edge.
Well if you really do and I trust you. Is wing chun by its self any good in a real fight
Well, "Superfoot" Bill Wallace (world champ) once said "80% of fights end up on the ground, but 100% of fights start standing up". You can use wing Chun techniques from the ground, but that's "not what they're meant for". At the end of the day, the better practitioner will win, thus making this video...meh. If you can find a good school and a good teacher, you'll be just fine. But I would recommend filling your knowledge with as many resources as you can.
I studied northern style Chi Tao Chuan Gung Fu beginning in 1967. It has been my staple since then. At age 70 (3 years ago) I started in Krav Maga. It has augmented my Gung Fu. Eye gouges and tearing flesh in northern style Gung Fu is common. These 2 styles compliment each other well
"it's not the weapon but the warrior that wields it " Lt. Talis Andorian Imperial guard
“Your Tiger kung fu is strong 💪, grasshopper, but my Dragon 🐉 kung fu will defeat it” 😁
Winner will be the one who is most determined to win and most prepared (physically and psychologically)
none of the krav maga cliips feature a resisting opponent
That's to prevent injury if you resist a lock or rip you will always have serious injury to your neck shoulder elbow ,so if your being thrown go with it or the person doing the move will add more power , any decent krav club will pressure test and push it but you can't go full throttle especially when you get in your 40's upwards
I agree with the notion that it’s not about the martial art itself but instead the fighter, but in a realistic scenario this can only be taken so far. Regardless of what you’re a practitioner of and how long you’ve been training biology does matter in a fight, hence why in a lot of professional fighting environments people are divided via weight.
One of the main and first techniques you learn in Wing Chun is the eye gouge. That's common in each of the Wing Chun forms.
I would like to see a video of Jee Kune Do vs Krav Maga
This could be good. Only because JKD shares the philosophy of using every weapon by any means necessary. Had Bruce gone on to finish what he started JKD could definitely be a force of brutality comparable to KM. A lot of people seem to forget the basis of JKD and what it really means. Bruce's mind was on another level and he implemented that at all times when building JKD.
Jeet Kun Do came from Wing Chun...essentially thats what JKD is- Wing Chun minus forms with amendments made by Bruce Lee. He didn't like the stiffness and applied his philosophies of formlessness and flow to the fighting concepts of WC to "perfect" the art in a way
@@davethegaultney224 wrong. JKD’s base is Wing Chun, but in reality it’s a mix of the best basics of all martial arts Bruce got to study: boxing, TKD, judo, jiujitsu, etc... and he had the same philosophy of Krav Maga about winning by any means. JKD also does eye gauging, groin attacks, etc...
It not about style that works, any style works. it about how the user applies it to the situation that is given in any time and any place. Normally every martial art style advises to keep out of trouble and only use it when your life in serious danger.
Well said bro, learning Martial Art is for protect & defend not hurting peoples or to compare which are best of the best martial art...u heard about Pokolan it part of Pencak-Silat from Malay Peninsula...?
@@PencakPokolanBawean hi thank you for your compliment :) :). martial arts often used for self discipline, relaxation and making friends. I also i learning the martial art history in origins of the culture and history, which is very interesting and vibrant at the same time. Umbrella term for a class of related Indonesian martial arts , it very effective system for the psychological ends and physical heath. according to Wikipedia. The sport is recognised as a Masterpiece of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity by UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) .
The martial art of Me is the best 😆 your mind is the most powerful weapon period
Great video.
A couple details about Krav Maga and Imi Lichtenfeld that I learned from one of his students. You're right to call him a martial arts master, he had black belts in three disciplines and competed on the world stage before creating KM.
When he was commissioned to design a cohesive martial art for the IDF he started by working with noncombatants, elderly and children, and in general people with limited training. He used them to gauge people's instinctive reactions to different kinds of attacks; what does a grandma who has never thrown a punch in her life do when grabbed from behind? He then used his experience to pick the simplest, most brutal response to each threat. Every attack starts with learning the defense, and always with an emphasis on letting your bodies unconscious reactions pilot you.
After years of dabbling in various marital arts for a few months but never finding one that passed the street fight test, and Capoeira for years for the fitness and acrobatics, I found KMT in Toronto. Rob and his level 4s are excellent teachers. A couple of my favorite exercises were blind turn and strike, and multiple opponent take down defense
KMT? Do you mean Krav Maga?
And the “T”?
Discipline or style are incomparable effectiveness of which depends on the person who practice the art ..Thank you
I’d say having some shit at the end of a stick is theoretically very powerfull weapon.
Sir you are a genius
I practice wing chun but have always wanted to train krav maga. I think the combination of both would be deadly.
Your cup would be to full, simplicity is the key, intensity beats extensity every time !!
I am a krav maga practitioner (level 6) been practicing for about 10 yrs. I would have to agree that krav is more effective in a street fight but wing chu is nothing to scoff at. It really comes dien to the ability of the practitioner.
I agree,,,
A combination of Wing Chung centre line control and Krav Maga close range explosive impact is the perfect martial art in terms of defensive and offensive superiority in a fight. Tang Soo Do and Taekwando are great formal martial arts to base a foundation on in order to develop the discipline, power, control and speed needed to take the greatest advantage of the Wing Chung and Krav Maga toolkit which are at a different level. None are as effective alone and all complement each other if practiced together. One system does not suit all situations or opponents, and just as equally, not everyone has the same mindset ... immediate, intensive, controlled physical aggression will always come out on top no matter what the style is. The opposite is true of mental aggression.
With all the respect, you are forgetting about UECHI RYU Karate Do…
The hokey pokey is a much more powerful fighting style 🤼♂️
well, that is what it is all about...
Lol...nice
U put your right leg in... shake it all about, do the roundhouse and that's what it is all about...
It depends on how tough and mastered the warrior is
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Karate 13 years
Krav Maga 4 years
These two martial arts made me the man I am today.
It’s never about the style but about the fighter and how much time they are willing to put into learning/practicing the system.
Wing Chun also has groin strikes and eye gouges.
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100 yards in 9.8 seconds beats both styles hands down ex footballer
Agree. 100%
no groin, No Krav Maga- Lisa Simpson. wise words from one so young. Krav is the only style i have done that encourages you to be proactive and not just reactive.
Thirty some years ago I was taught Ken Ka Kung Fu here in San Diego. I tried many other arts, but grew up on the streets learning to use street fight because you can use any thing, or way to win. It was called Dirty Fighting back then. Then I got into Ken Ka Kung Fu because it was street fighting. I have no idea how a person would fair with Ken Ka Kung Fu against the fighting we just watched but it kept me alive when I went to war.
Thanks for sharing bro krav maga is best for me
I studied wing chun. My sifu fought blood sport style in Japan and brought back what he learned. Watching the krav maga I see some similarities to what he taught us for street defense. Throat strikes, elbows, etc.
I dont understand why Krav Maga wins because of eye gauging - it`s one of Wing Chun`s main moves
krav maga seems to need to finish its opponents fast or else it would be ineffective. Wing Chun would clearly allow a person to redirect the blows nullifying the quick strikes of krav maga essentially taking away the fighting style advantage. Edge would be to Wing Chun due to its ability to counter strikes rapidly which Krav Maga is all about.
so if you're in a fight you want it to drag out longer then necessary? you have about 2 min of adrenaline then you're pretty much fkd. especially if the attacker has a few mates which is the norm these days. plus now the weak little pricks all have knives and watch to much MMA. reality based training over fu fu tap tap McDojo any day. the only thing krav took from Wc is the trapping element. boxers have the best hands. muay thai the rest and so on.
I would love to learn Krav Maga but there is no instructors I'm aware of in my are. Tons of BJJ and a few Kenpo. One difference between Krav and Wing as I see it, Wing seems to take a very long time to really master while Krav can start having some self defence effect in a rather short period of time.
Hi, I have been learning Wing Chun for about 8 years now, the big take away from my school, they want to teach you at least one self-defence technique in your first lesson. They want you to walk out the door on your first day with something that will work in real life. The first few months are spent refining these very basic skills, before actually getting into the real wing chun stuff. It is easy to get a good level of self defence, but yes, it will take many years to master. I have never studied Krav Magar, however I hold this art with great respect. I am guessing the same, you will get great self defence moves fairly soon, but again, to really master the art will take any years. Best wishes on your choice. My Wing Chun style focuses on internal energy, which I don't KM does, it's a pretty interesting area. There are a lot of arguments for and against, the best thing it to look at both and make up your own mind. Best wishes.
I have to disagree with you on your take regarding the practical knowledge and application of Wing Chung. I vouch that within 6 months under a complete competent teacher the layman practitioner can be given a wealth of immediate offensive and defensive skills.
@@michaeltruthson6262 as can any martial art, but to really master it takes a long time. Krav was designed to be taught quickly. One reason that it's favored by some militaries. They don't have 6 months.
@@michaeltruthson6262 I bet any wingchun fighter gets his ass beat at any MMA gym in the world. Name one wingchun fighter who's a champion or even a contender in any prominent fight organization.
@@MrLuckybeast13 well former champion Andersen Silva is a high level wing Chung practitioner.
Just know how to fight, the art you pick doesn't really matter.
Well sometimes it does i agree that no 1 art is more superior not really but some have more to offer ,this is why mixed mma has become so popluar it has realistic situation .
I like this one. It is the most important. Actually what they consider the art is misleading . Art is a way of expression. So these are more of fighting methods. If you consider them an art then you cannot say what is best because the artist may suddenly express something very different.
you're right. and choosing a martial art that teaches you how to actually fight alleviates the issue of not knowing how to actually fight....
so picking fraudulent dance choreography. is probably a very bad move. if you want to learn how to fight...
in other words. not all "martial arts". are equal. because some of them have no fighting in them..
@@robertbrozewicz8003 the term "art". refers to a practiced skill.
and martial. to War, Battle or fighting.
So, a "martial art". is a practiced skill pertaining to War, battle or fighting,
This fight was over so quick the video failed to capture it.
I believe if you place an Wing Chun expert martial artist and a Krav Maga martial artist expert in the same ring to a challenge. Then we’ll know who’s style would win! 🥋
What about Krav Maga Vs Jeet Kune Do ?
First and foremost, we should all know that either of these styles will make a movement without being approached with an attack first, seeing that both styles are Defensive arts. And then taking 2 Masters of these arts not just regular artists... However, if one is to bring in a fight with an attack, I see iT that WinG ChuN KeuN has far too many Defensive motions where applied attacks are amplified all in the same motion and moment. As well as using your feet to stop an opponent from moving forward with his or her balance, and using momentum to overthrow your opponent. Some of those skills are applied all at once, depending upon your dedicated skill level of WinG ChuN KeuN. As for Krav Maga, it is a style strictly based upon protecting your self from serious violence and is most effective for serious situations. Krav Maga is just as or More effective because the style emplies power as well as speed, where as with Wing ChuN KeuN only speed and paying attention is important but not necessary for a victory! However I do believe that if, the Sifu of Krav Maga is stronger than he of Chun KeuN, and can apply that same strength through out the entire fight, his or her chances of winning, are greater than that of ChuN KeuN. Although Krav Maga is more effective for neutralization, a hand to hand combat will not be an easy win without focusing your energy properly and being clear minded. Even if the artist is "more in tune", or "better" than the other! Even when losing, WinG ChuN KeuN simple has a structure that is amazing for either gender! However you MusT Practice iT and focus without focusing. Be like water 🌊 says Bruce!!!! And Krav Maga Is Awesome! Worth studying but I see a few things that will probably change over the next decade where Krav Maga becomes more technical, however making it more versatile and Universal than it is Now!! There is room for growth and elevation in any style you are mixed with.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson
Here's the scoop. To defeat a person that is trying to really hurt you, one has got to act with lightning speed. Bruce Lee believed that a finger jab to the eyes would completely disable an opponent.
#1. Development of the warrior heart. World's most dangerous man? The one who has nothing to lose. Carry on.
Enjoyed the clip i do practice wing Chun kung fu but open and respect to the other universal martial arts forms.
What I love with krav maga, is that even after one year of weekly training, you already fighting better.
With most martial art you would need years to be able to use it in a street fight
“it’s not about the style it’s about you “
I am a krav maga student for 15 yrs. I've done all sorts of martial arts , but krav is the shit. More practical then any other fighting system. My kids will be taught krav maga
This narrator at 7:00 reveals he actually knows NOTHING about Wing Chung. Stating that Kung-Fu is artistic and honorable and Krav Maga uses "no holds barred" techniques like "eye gouging" so it would likely win.
I learned the art of eye gouging from my Yip Man class in my second month. Kung-Fu is a street fighting art and is MOST LETHAL without rules, because it is a dirty fighting art. Putting rules on it only limits it's effectiveness because with Wing Chung it is easier to kill a man than it is to cripple him, and it is easier to cripple a man than it is to conventionally hurt him.
I just got finished typing there is nothing honorable about Wing Chun. At the very least it is the most dishonorable art known to man.
WING CHUN definitely would take the advantage which either opponent you face will have it’s destined to victory.
The explanation about wing chun's creation is partially true. It is forbidden in Chinese martial arts code to transfer the artform of one family to another that was not its founding family or Clan. Therefore "Wing Chun" which is the definition of this female person's name was the founder. Her name was Wing Chun which means "Beautiful springtime" in English. She constructed it strictly for females who cannot learn gung-fu. There were no females ever in Shaolin or wing chun. This was Yip Man's great grandmother (4th generation).
She developed it from the female mentioned who had invented Sil Lum. This is why they have the exact same forms. (with minor variations) But in martial Arts these two art forms are considered to be two double artforms enunciating out of the I-Chieng which has the double change called I-chin I-chin. (so they say its yin n yin) This is the first (of 7 covers) represented by yin and yangs.
Only "I-Chieng" has the double yin which makes it passive in a male hard fight or martial artist. This is what Lee discovered by it not working for anything but show in the karate world and film. So it is considered by martial artists as a quick road to self-defense for Chinese girls who are taught not to kick above their waist for fear of groin defense kicks. (FYI the 1st y and yang cover is for the 'lotus sutra' where "zen" (yang) and "chi" (yin) originates from. The 2nd level is the I-Hsieng (yang) and I-Chieng (yin). These were hidden from Lee and Hollywood to this day. Martial Arts was banned in California bc of Bruce!
This is why it (kung-fu/yin or karate/yang) is not martial art (English) i.e Gung-fu (Mandarin) aka Wu Shu (Cantonese) but 'kung-fu' which is harmless fighting. That means it is not geared towards you killing someone. And why Lee got in trouble when he said it was. They saw it as him stealing from the royal family as the only progenitors of martial Arts in the world as well as IP who caught the threat of death for teaching Lee who was not full-blooded Chinese which made it a big issue.
The Boxer's Rebellion is what turned the Southen China street gang called the 8th street junction tigers against Lee. They were the cause of Lee fleeing China to America for fear of his life at 18 years old. (he said in an interview about them "they don't play" and this was after he learned two years of the 3 years of wing chun)The issue had to be settled, did Yip Man teach Lee and tell him he was learning gung-fu? It would have been an infringement which the triads would settle by death to prove Yip Man did not know Martial Arts. So he had to deny Lee who now becomes a liar for saying it. Instead, they ended up killing Lee on the set (it didn't happen bc he turned gray!) but that was the way his son had to die too. On a movie set to say they were phony martial artists pretending to be representatives of Chinese Martial Arts.
But (don't believe the hype) it had nothing to do with Lee teaching non-Chinese bc the grandmaster himself who is of pure blue-blooded Chinese descent (who Lee wanted to play in the t.v. series 'kung-fu" b4 they changed the storyline) taught black men his family art forms (Pa Qua kuntao style) in Ohio bc one of them reminded the grandmaster (in) his (words) "black chinese uncle". And he was teaching his own ppl Shaolin (WuShu 36 chambers replaced by the Southen 5 Animals that takes a lifetime to learn one. That is two levels below the royal forms.
This was Bruce Lee's first offense in attempting to take Wing Chun from the IP Clan as his family's name artform when he came to America and had to make a living. His first school was called "Jun Fun's gung-fu". It was really fragmented wing chun. So he actually attempted to take one (from Yip Man) and a half/one from gung-fu that everyone knows belongs to the Southern royal families of China where it is domiciled forever (there is a Southern china). First with the Southern royal Chinese family by name.
Then at Harvest Studios (in Southern China who made Bruce Lee an international movie star martial artist) but in real life he was a paper tiger. They pimped him big time and only gave him $10,k for all 3 films but made millions. He was too dumb to ask for Producer credit and participation. When he wanted to leave HK they killed him bc he was trying to broadcast it to the public through his called "game of death". (he lost it) Bruce completed the two name snatching offenses when he said 'tao jeet kune do'. The Chinese mafia who are the main one in the world that are taught gung-fu (the grandmaster of the gung-fu federation was also the godfather of the triads who ordered Lee and his son's death) I wrote the first book on what martial arts is and what happened to Bruce Lee and his son.
If I study do Wing Chun it would be the most dominant Style. If I study Krav Maga it would be the dominant Style
It’s not the style that comes out on top but the person using it. The style is only as good as the practitioner.
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I must say that I am pleased with your method.
I look forward to viewing more of your content, Thankyou
I would love to learn both 😍
Jeet kundo would give Krav Maga a run for its money
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I just wanna know how does one refine a new fight style to an efficient style?
Generally most are probably misunderstood systems. With kung fu for example, people see the large movements and think that's how kung fu fights, but in reality the big motions are to exaggerate mechanics so you can compress them and make them smaller, getting the power with less movement.
So essentially, make everything require as little motion as possible, as small movements as possible, and master footwork and positioning, and you're already going to have a very efficient system if you put it to practice and get on hand experience in application in dynamic situations.
Martial arts do not fight each other, athletes do and according to their own sports wealth and skill in some fights, one will win and the other will lose. - ROIZ
Krav Maga practitioners lack practice and dedication. They seek an easy path to the "best martial art", and thus, a lifelong Win Chun dedicate will beat any Krav Maga fighter. Also, in Siu Nim Tao, Wing Chun's most basic form, a very deadly eye gouge is one of the most important parts of the form.
Not just that but one inch punch too
Why do you think Krav Maga practitioners don't have dedication? In fact probably more than a lot of Wing Chun practitioners. But all their practice is done with speed power and agression. A lot of Wing Chun schools don't teach realistic fighting. They never pressure test their students or try and spoil their opponents technique. Some never even really spar.
@@credibility63 I'm not sure what Wing Chun schools you're talking about maybe I just got extremely lucky with the two that I've gone to.
@@marcuscs2484 I think you did. I trained at four different schools and taught for one. I had many people who learned Wing Chun try our classes and critisise our form, but when they tried to spar with us had no conditioning and were used to using yee chee kim young ma as a stance to fight from. They were recreational martial artists. When I was in my twenties and thirties (I'm nearly sixty now) I trained with weights, ran, used a heavy bag and focus mits and skipped. We studied chi sau but knew the difference between chi sau and fighting. When we spared we didn't stop and break when we landed a clean strike. Real fights rarely stop when a strike lands its generally twenty seconds of mayhem. In effect although I was doing Wing Chun I trained like I was doing Krav Maga and was better for it.
@@credibility63 it true that some do not have enough dedication but some can say the same about krav maga. To me it more like people don't have training of reaction time good enough and good enough Shifu because the student reflect the teacher that is teaching.
Yes It definitely depends on the person who uses both styles. At the same time, Wing Chun is very defensive, you can’t use snatching or borrowing energy from against Wing Chun. Old school also had Tai-Chi defensive mode against any old or news styles and modern styles etc.. Now lots of shitties they missed representative for Wing Chun system
From the description of krav maga that I see here, it sounds a lot like San Soo, a Kung Fu style which I have taken. I remember thinking that San Soo seemed like a martial art that Army commandos would take. It's quite a bit different than other Kung Fu styles. I've also taken Wing Chun. Wing Chun takes longer to learn well enough to be effective.
I agree. I’m also a San Soo practitioner and I describe it as Krav Maga with a little style.
First rule of any fight. Can you move? Can you notice the opponent move? Can you act in defence? That means can you use the best smartest move to counter often suprising attack? Can you launch your own attack? After attack will you be exposed? Can you be in a position to carry on attacking or defending or running away? What is you goal? Save yourself? Kill the oppenent? Learn? Fun? Mavbe just temporarily neutralize the opponent? Can you fight with two,three attackers at once and use some tactics to scare them? Round them up? You want them alive or is this not a requirement? In reality very often you learn what you can. In the above example it shows that if you have equal access to a particular style you have a problem You need to choose. If you do not, you follow the most obvious strategy of the overwhelm. You start with the one that is easy and then move on to the more difficult Technique, tactics(situation awareness and choosing the right tool for the job ) is the things you will have to learn, plus enjoy being hit and thrown. So much that you stop focusing on it but starting on actual movement. I can write that is why I am doing it here. Wing Chun is very effective in some situations. Yet it is not created to kill the oponnent .. It is like comparing possibly F35 fighter flown by best american fighter to a small nuclear missile that obliterates everything within small radius and flies faster than the fighter. The missile is meant to destroy the target and fllies to the spot with no other considerations.If you know you can kill, it is much easier than when you attack with idea that you have to restrain yourself. So, a WingChun fighter if is aware that needs to kill the opponent and the Krav Maga that is not sure of it then the chances are overwhelmingly on the Wing Chun. So, when you fight you need to know what are you goals and use the best tactis and weapons to your disposal. For most people it is avoidance.Systems on the other hand have some assumptions in mind. Like that you are not using machine gun for example. Although I have seen a movie where Chinese ifghter (Donnie Yen) kills the machine gun operator. It is possible but it was a movie. Still weird things happen in life. Bear it in mind when next time you claim being invincible. You may be but do not bet on it. Just be humble as we do not really know.