I wish we had another transformers series with the anime aesthetic, you know, super stylized robots, overtly dramatic action scenes, attack names being shouted out, with a toyline that reflects that. With how much influence anime has, it's a no brainer. With the sensibilities of well written storylines, of course, because, transformers isn't just a ploy to sell toys...
Some interpret this "Trigger" special as a sign that the Japanese will return to producing new series. For those who are fearing interference from the Hasbro acquisition, this could be the franchise's great salvation
Cybertron was what got me into this franchise when I was 5 years old, so for that it will always have a place in my heart. Plus, Optimus wielding Metroplex’s buzzsaw is etched into my brain as the hardest thing in this entire franchise.
This era will always have my respect for such cool designs. The fact that it was going for a Japanese aesthetic really did such a great benefit for transformers I feel like. As a kid I had no idea it was an imported series from Japan it just reminded me of what Pokémon looked like bc I was too young to understand it like that 😂
I, on the other hand, struggle to think of the character design I like. As a fan of both Armada and Energon, Cybertron did nothing for me. The first ten episodes are the most boring of any Transformers show, until they get to Speed planet, so that doesn't help.
21:52 pretty sure Jetfire is supposed to have a New Zealand Accent. I do understand the confusion, since the two accents are very similar , just certain words sound differently, kinda like how the only difference between original Latin and Church Latin is just how they use C's and V's ( soft C's and Hard V's for Church Latin and Hard C's and soft V's for Original)
If you've ever seen "King of Braves: GaoGaiGar", they did a bit in one episode (multiple actually, I think) where a monster *did* try to interrupt the stock footage. They explain the vague energy background as an actual barrier the protag puts up before doing the sequence, and once the monster breaks through the protag's robot just kicks them out of the way and does the sequence again.
I wish we could get MPs of these toys. I know the OG ones are very show accurate already, but many of the designs have more and sharper details in the show than in the toys. I know they wouldn't have to change much about them in engineering department, but that would just cut down on the cost, instead of the modern day MPs that are all 200+ dollars. Heck, by today's standards, some of the Cybertron toys are already master piece scale in terms of size.
I like the voices and accents honestly. Jetfire's expecially, and the idea that what sounds like Australian is Nebulan. Now I have the headcanon that Nebulos is Space Australia with deadly fauna and a Mad Max style desert region. As for the Gigantion bots being Scots, I think it's a reference to giants being Scottish mythical creatures.
To Thunderblast's defense, in that figure's case Shellforming worked perfectly. But yeah, show had definitely peak designs! Pity Snow Cat did not make it to the series, or Demolisher.
definitely more mystical, and the figures had better gimmicks than Armada on top of the theming from the various planets, but Armada's slew of Mini-Cons just had that something extra that the cyber keys kinda lacked. if only Cybertron's figure gimmicks and planet themes could combine with Armada's Mini-Con variety...
@@brianross3988 if only vector prime sword was formed by all the minicons forming together similar to Armada. Would've been cool to have 3 minicons from each planet that combined with each other to form weapons. Maybe they could attach to override car form and scourge could have a big Claw type thing, metroplex getting a large drill bit cannon would maybe work with his, quickmix, and menasors minicons.
This was my TF show. Still is my favorite TBH… this show is what I suggest to anyone trying to mix 2D and 3D animation styles and I honestly really enjoyed the jokes but I’m so happy that we got a fairly good series that actually let us explore the universe some! I wish we got more “risky” ideas like that again but it seems like that will be a good while coming at least
Banger show, my childhood also I dunno I feel like Transformers as a whole depends a lot on characters being instantly discerned by accents or voice quirks(like Southern Ironhide, Brooklyn Wheeljack, British Shockwave, even Optimus' deep and Megatron's gravelly voices). Plus I think it helped give the show's feel of traveling across the world... on a galactic scale anyway. Also shout out to those convention comics that gave a role to the Cybertron toys that weren't in the show. My man Hardtop has been done justice
Armada brought me in, but Cybertron was the first line I collected in full when it came out. It was also the first time I went online to see clips from the original Japanese version. A lot of great memories of Cybertron/GF. It's the series that personally has the most meaning for me.
There arent enough words to express the excitement of my wee lad version felt seeing cybertron transform. I was literally trembling trying to eat lunch during my home schooling I enjoyed the stock footage conversations. A chance for extra character moments, and kept it from getting stale. Gave you something else to pay attention to My boy starscream made autobots and galvatron alike eat dirt in this series.
The "Ben 10" franchise gets around the stock footage situation by claiming that the transformations are instantaneous, and the stock footage we see is just slow motion. The same could be said of the Sailor Moon transformation sequences.
Cybertron is the most 'Super Robot' any of the Transformers Animes had ever been. It's also the last Transformers TV Anime(since Go! is basically an OVA) and I kinda wish we had a new Transformers TV Anime like Cybertron. Also, wasn't this the last show to call the Autobots and Decepticons the Cybertrons and Destrons and the last to call an Optimus 'Convoy'? Also also, Lori is best Girl.
Great figures, decent show. I really liked the velocitron and jungle planet arcs. But looking back at those toys, they were massive compared to what we get today.
This was the first TF show that I watched when I was growing up so I have a lot of love for Cybertron and it brings me such insane nostalgia. Glad to see so many people still love it after over 15 years
Cybertron is one of the few times the English dub can be considered better than the original Japanese version with subtitles because of how much energy the VAs brought to the anime
This was my real first foray into Transformers. I loved this show so much. Heck, I went and bought my only Legacy toy, Override, because I wanted an updated Override that didn’t have a broken transformation tab in the leg. If I get the chance, I’m gonna hunt down other Legacy releases of other Cybertron characters!
When it comes to cybertron (2005), there are some part I do like and some I think could have been better. Like the three things I did like in Cybertron where the three human characters, Coby Lori and Bud, they feel like if Rad, Alexis and Carlos from Armada were actually interesting characters and less one dimensional. I also like the character of Vector Prime, I like his knowledge on the history of Cybertron and the universe, and I also like how he was basically the Alpha Trion of the series with him being like a mentor to Optimus Prime. Lastly, I will admit the final battle of the series between Optimus and Galvatron is probably one of my favourite Transformers moments of all time, I just love how over the top it is with both them going all powerful and Optimus making a speech about how he can defeat Megatron with the power of friendship is just so cheesy, and I love it. But with that said, yeah Cybertron does still have it’s problems like the animation, while it does look better than it’s predecessor, Energon and it does have it’s moments sometimes, still does kind of look a bit stiff and rushed at times. Not to mention it’s constant use of repeated transformation scenes do feel like they’re interrupting the story. So overall, Cybertron is a very 50/50 series for me, again it has stuff I like but it also has some problems. But I won’t deny that Cybertron left an impact in the series as it was the last Transformers series of many things. It was the last Transformers show to have Garry Chalk as Optimus and David Kaye as megatron, which if you count Beast Wars and Beast Machines means that they had voiced the characters for 10 years, it was the last transformers show to have an all Canadian based voice cast in general (unless if you count more recently with the BotBots series, but then again that show had Toronto based actors not Vancouver) and it was the last transformers series to be produced in Japan, unless you count Transformers Go but that was more of a web series.
even some of the human element was great. the kids weren't super annoying and were actually quite useful to the plot. even the shady government type guy was revealed to be not so shady and wanted to help. now if only government officials in movies adapting cartoons acted more like this guy instead of the endless sea of morally bankrupt, xenophobic, shoot-first, inhumane-experimenting assholes like the Michael Bay movies etc.
Some series do try to give in-story explanations for why enemies cannot just attack during transformations. Voltron, GaoGaiGar, Gundam, Kamen Rider, and many others have established that the transformation or combination process either creates or is accompanied by some form of barrier effect. This can range from purely being defensive (preventing damage) to actually being offensive (knocking back or even damaging attackers). A few shows just treat the stock transformation movements as optional, with the transforming characters actually able to act freely while transforming. Some series imply transformations are near instantaneous, by showing little to no time could have passed around the transformation. While Kill la Kill plays with such genre tropes, its second episode starts Ryuuko's transformation as normal, but switches to a wide shot of Ryuuko and her opponents instead of the normal stock footage. Here, her transformation plays out in about three seconds. (Also, rather than being sexy, it consists of a grotesque deformed blood spewing Senketsu inflating like a balloon before snapping back to a fully transformed Ryuuko. Then you have Dragon Ball, where people explicitly choose to wait on their opponent's transformations just to get the chance for a better fight.
I had a lot of fun watching Cybertron. They do repeat 'IT'S OVER NOW, MEGATRON!' a little too often by the end of the show :p and there's nothing cooler than CYBER KEY POWER! Plus, I miss the old Japanese stock footage and the characters going 'TRANSFORM!!!!' super dramatically.
Cybertron was what brought me into the Transformers franchise as a whole. The cartoon to me was so goddamn fun (even though I find it a bit cringe as is now). The intro is iconic and thanks to the transformation sequences I transformed my hotshot and jetfire without the instructions. To this day my holy grail for the entirety of transformers is Galaxy Force optimus prime.
Cybertron’s all the more impressive when you consider that not only was it a massive improvement on Energon show-wise and toy-wise, but it managed to turn a completely unrelated show into the final chapter of the Unicron Trilogy.
It’s not unrelated, the plan during the trilogy was to have 3 shows and there is evidence Aaron Archer was developing Cybertron as the 3rd entry. Somewhere along the line in japan the writing changed to not be related yet the outline it follows seems to come from when it was a 3rd entry so Hasbro reattached the series
Buah Energon es mejor que cybertron Con Energon a partir del episodio 15 la cosa se pone chevre, y si, el 3D es una mierda junto a tramas algo desaprovechadas pero lo disfrute Cybertron es aburrida, apenas unos 6 episodios me gustaron, es lenta y sosa, la gente solo ama el programa por nostalgia, porque para mí es solo un comercial para vender juguetes Ambas series me las ví a partir de este año, para que luego no digan que solo defiendo Energon por verla de niño, es más, antes pensé que Energon era una porquería, pero actualmente que me la ví la veo divertida, excepto kicker y ironhide
What they needed to do with those super slow transformation and combination scenes was just remove like 98% of them. It makes sense the first time a character transforms, or the first time 2 or more characters combine, but after that what's the point? Imagine if in Transformers Prime every single transformation was as slow and drawn out as the cool, awe inspiring reveal moments when human characters *_first_* meet the Autobots? Imagine if when Starscream transformed to get away from Megatron in the episode where Megatron gets all healed up and comes to beat Starscreams teeth in Starscream had a super slow motion transformation with dialogue lol.
I'll tell you why, it let them put out 50+ episodes in a year while cutting down on costs on animation and writing lol Granted thats not a good thing generally. But the fact that recent shows like Prime Wars and Netflix WFC were like each under 30 episodes, took 3 years to finish, and have lackluster reception just makes them look even more poorly budgeted
I also repeated the overdub gag from Alt Transformers MUSH too. At a least two points, I had an Autobot with a big cannon say 'activate blaster beam go' before firing, with then the con saying, 'why do you keep telegraphing what you're going to do?'
For me in the unicron trilogy toyline Cybertron has it most of the figures had decent posing and the gimmick like the keys and 4 different styles. Show wise I lean more to armada the animation while had some errors was nice over the CGI and some characters like starscream, sideways, hot shot, smokescreen, and my beloved demolishor.
This entire show is one big reference to the Brave series and I love it for that. Its the most "super robot mecha anime" Transformers has ever gotten even when compared to Armada and Energon and you can just tell Chalk and Kaye are having the time of their lives doing the voices for Prime and Megatron for the last time together
The Fact They Wanted Jetfite Australian despite Scott McNeil who voiced Jetfire was AUSTRALIAN was a Literal Sin of the Entire Transformers Franchise and The Unicron Trilogy, I also can't Understand why Brent Miller, Ward Perry, Colin Murdoch and Ron Halder never Bothered to return as Hot Shot, Landmine, Wing Saber and Primus they was no explanation for those changes
From what I understand transformer gender isn't like human gender... It all comes down to a few lines of programming in there brains... Even the physical changes (keep in mind these are robots who can transform into vehicles, these few lines of coding determine how the robot form, designs itself,I guess) As for how they reproduce... It typically isn't anything like a human... Actually varies wildly depending on the actual series... P.s. there were some continuity mistakes with earlier points in the Unicron trilogy to the point where it doesn't really fit as part of the unicorn trilogy... For example Cybertron has Earth as a backwater planet we've never visited before, but we visited it in transformers Armada and by the time of energon it was to the point where EVERYBODY knows what a transformer is!!! Transformer energon's Ocean City was on EARTH!!! So they can call it part of the Unicron trilogy but it's really not it's just based on it, but that's not necessarily A bad thing!!! It's not a part of the unicorn trilogy IT'S BETTER
Cybertron was my favorite show in the unicorn trilogy and I still got figures from that libe . Optimus is my favorite version of Optimus in this show too
A great toyline, combining at least four or five different aesthetics, with an incredibly good and well integrated gimmick. Only a few clunkers (freakin’ Backstop). The only thing that hurts the cartoon is Japan deciding that this wasn’t going to be the third part of a trilogy but its own thing, with the dub awkwardly trying to patch for that. Also, hate to disagree, but I love all the talking during the stock footage. Made it much more tolerable. And the accents were awesome.
Transformers Cybertron will always be my favourite Transformers show. I may say overall animated, beast wars and prime are better, but the nostalgia is too much to say no to. Especially the music. OH MY GOD. Also, I really wished i still had my Cybertron figures, Cybertron defence hotshot and scout class scattershot. But those are gone. Same with my chances of getting either version of Cybertron optimus (original+2019 siege).
I would get up at 6am every Saturday morning to watch Cybertron from September 2005 - 2006, the one time it was aired on free to air tv in Australia. Though i missed the first 2 episodes, i watched most of the series that way. I always had a good time watching. Though after seeing Megatron mow down Hot Shot, Scattorshot and Red Alert I spent the whole week wondering what was going to happen next Saturday morning. Watched the series for the 3rd time last year, after getting more Cybertron figures and i really enjoyed it. Aside from repetitive stock footage, I find Cybertron to be one of the best Transformers series.
Over all, I agree on the "accents as a substitute for character traits" being an issue, I still think thundercracker sounding like a backwoods hick should come back at some point, it was the most hilarious thing to me as a kid. (Possibly partially because I sounded kind of like thundercracker at the time)
A funny repeat dub error in the Masterforce shout factory line is that the dub person reads aloud Transform...Dash, because the dash mark is on the script page and he read the minus signs. :) (He is not saying transform and run., He is saying the dash mark, often).
I'm glad to see that my G1/introduction to the series is so beloved in the comments here, a lot of people jumped on the boat at the same time as me, it seems! Fun fact, my very first ever Transformer was the Cybertron Skywarp, the Thundercracker repaint. It's long been broken, but I still have it as a monument of where it all started for me. And yeah, 100% correct, Cybertron had hands down the best toy line we've ever gotten in this franchise. And while I definitely think you're overthinking some things in regards to your criticisms of the show, I can definitely see it, but love the show regardless! The Legacy Override and even the Titan Metroplex based on Cybertron are 2 crown jewels of my modern-era section of my collection.
Had Dirtboss as a kid (still do). One of my first Decepticons with classics Astrotrain. Loved the transformation, colors, and both key gimmicks. So many fun hours with that toy. Got him in a 3 pack with Landmine and Snarl. Love Landmine, but my Snarl is pretty beat up since all my friends at school would borrow him. One lost his key, one his missile and tail/gun, and one snapped his wolf head off😂. Dirtboss and Landmine are still in great shape though
I absolutely loved the giant Starscream in Galaxy Force/CyberKey Wars/Cybertron. and the super powered convoy Optimus Prime, and the Super Link (Energon) Megatron and Galvatron.
I think Cybertron is by far the most underrated TF show. It’s not perfect - its animation is a bit dated and much like Armada, it starts off slow, and it is /heavily/ padded. But in that padding blooms one of its strongest elements: the characters. For such a huge cast, it balances a LOT of characters really well. Everyone has something to do, there’s some charming characters & arcs like Vector Prime, Override, & Scourge, and it has imo one of the GREATEST human casts ever. Not only that, but I think as slow as it starts, it’s really satisfying by the end with its grandiose scale and the completions of its plot threads. It’s not an S rank or top 3 pick, but I do think it’s a valid A rank or top 5.
@@MILDMONSTER1234 It does leave some of them, but there’s a good split, and of course they all return. Each planet has a cast that either remains or joins the main cast - examples including Override, Ransack, & Crumplezone vs Dirt Boss, Brakedown, & Clocker, Scourge & Snarl vs Backstop, Undermine, & Brimstone, and Evac, Mudflap, & Thunderblast vs Lugnutz & Crosswise. It’s well-balanced between the mains and secondaries.
Cybertron/Galaxy Force and Animateds versions of Prime were the last versions of the character that were true to what Optimus was supposed to be before Bayformers and Prime kinda muddied the water
Funny you should mention the talking over the transformation. In Transformers meets Robotech the fan film, Fire Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus from RID show up and try to combine, but it takes them so long to do so, rambling on, that the cons shoot them! Ha.
Ultra fusion blast beam energy blaster...(he still rambles) con rambles, while bot just does the Indy Jones with the sword guy and the pistol gag and shoots him dead. Ha.
Would you count Cybertron as sequel to Energon or a seperate continuity? As 2 things Cybertron did that doesn't make sense as a sequel to Energon 1. Having to hide from humans again 2. Combining being a new thing. Granted could be an alternate universe plot.
Personally, I think of the Japanese exclusives from the BWN-GF era (going through CR/RID2001, and having a slight drop in SL/Energon) as the height of the franchise and GF/Cybertron as the height of the height in terms of Japanese design and audiovisual quality (in some points, GF still hasn't surpassed BW, but as a Japanese production it has)
I did like that they had a planet for beast transformers the different transformers inhabiting different planets was cool. I also liked cybertron Optimus prime being a fire truck and the wings he had in robot mode also soundwave being back was cool
I just have to say Cybertron has to take place in a different time line or something because armada and energon are definitely direct sequels to each other and have returning characters like Rad, Carlos and Alexis who are older you have Demolisher Tidelwave and Cyclonus but the only thing that cares over from energon to Cybertron is that Unicron has been destroyed what happened to all the autobot city's why has humanity forgotten about the transformers it doesn't make sense.
Originally, it was a separate show. In Japan, Micron Legend and Superlink were the same universe, but Galaxy Force wasn't. They changed that for the US version to make it a trilogy.
I never watched the show although I bought tons of the toys when new thinking i wanted them but never really connecting with them. I've sold almost all of it now on ebay. Just a supreme Cybertron Starscream and the three armada seekers left.
I wish we had another transformers series with the anime aesthetic, you know, super stylized robots, overtly dramatic action scenes, attack names being shouted out, with a toyline that reflects that. With how much influence anime has, it's a no brainer. With the sensibilities of well written storylines, of course, because, transformers isn't just a ploy to sell toys...
It is a ploy to sell toys. It's a blessing and a curse.
We only had rid and armada, with this kinda of style
Some interpret this "Trigger" special as a sign that the Japanese will return to producing new series. For those who are fearing interference from the Hasbro acquisition, this could be the franchise's great salvation
Cybertron was what got me into this franchise when I was 5 years old, so for that it will always have a place in my heart. Plus, Optimus wielding Metroplex’s buzzsaw is etched into my brain as the hardest thing in this entire franchise.
The show that got me into Transformers!! Also the only retro line that I went out of my way to back-collect!
This era will always have my respect for such cool designs. The fact that it was going for a Japanese aesthetic really did such a great benefit for transformers I feel like. As a kid I had no idea it was an imported series from Japan it just reminded me of what Pokémon looked like bc I was too young to understand it like that 😂
I honestly love the show, it gives off DBZ vibes and I love it. I cant think of a design or character I really hate, it's great.
I, on the other hand, struggle to think of the character design I like. As a fan of both Armada and Energon, Cybertron did nothing for me. The first ten episodes are the most boring of any Transformers show, until they get to Speed planet, so that doesn't help.
Here's a point of criticism on character design: Megatron and Galvatron should've used each other's color schemes
21:52 pretty sure Jetfire is supposed to have a New Zealand Accent. I do understand the confusion, since the two accents are very similar , just certain words sound differently, kinda like how the only difference between original Latin and Church Latin is just how they use C's and V's ( soft C's and Hard V's for Church Latin and Hard C's and soft V's for Original)
Man, Cybertron is some nostalgia right there and also reminds me how very old I am. I was a grown ass man when it first came out
"Which works if you're in PR:RPM"
AH'M SCO'ISH
You saying "wing it" like that just as Super Mode Optimus went on screen made me smile
If you've ever seen "King of Braves: GaoGaiGar", they did a bit in one episode (multiple actually, I think) where a monster *did* try to interrupt the stock footage. They explain the vague energy background as an actual barrier the protag puts up before doing the sequence, and once the monster breaks through the protag's robot just kicks them out of the way and does the sequence again.
I wish we could get MPs of these toys. I know the OG ones are very show accurate already, but many of the designs have more and sharper details in the show than in the toys.
I know they wouldn't have to change much about them in engineering department, but that would just cut down on the cost, instead of the modern day MPs that are all 200+ dollars.
Heck, by today's standards, some of the Cybertron toys are already master piece scale in terms of size.
Crazier part is even the largest Toys retailed for $40-50
I like the voices and accents honestly. Jetfire's expecially, and the idea that what sounds like Australian is Nebulan. Now I have the headcanon that Nebulos is Space Australia with deadly fauna and a Mad Max style desert region. As for the Gigantion bots being Scots, I think it's a reference to giants being Scottish mythical creatures.
The Scottsh accent for the Gigantion's natives is actually an homage to Star Trek's Scotty.
The season with Brave influences, and one of those was half of GaoGaiGar's Hell and Heaven.
To Thunderblast's defense, in that figure's case Shellforming worked perfectly. But yeah, show had definitely peak designs!
Pity Snow Cat did not make it to the series, or Demolisher.
It also helped that it was 100% show accurate
@@jeepdino7353The show models were based on the toys, not vice versa.
@@OptimusPhillip I am aware.
Cyber Keys were so fun
definitely more mystical, and the figures had better gimmicks than Armada on top of the theming from the various planets, but Armada's slew of Mini-Cons just had that something extra that the cyber keys kinda lacked.
if only Cybertron's figure gimmicks and planet themes could combine with Armada's Mini-Con variety...
@@brianross3988 if only vector prime sword was formed by all the minicons forming together similar to Armada. Would've been cool to have 3 minicons from each planet that combined with each other to form weapons. Maybe they could attach to override car form and scourge could have a big Claw type thing, metroplex getting a large drill bit cannon would maybe work with his, quickmix, and menasors minicons.
This was my TF show. Still is my favorite TBH… this show is what I suggest to anyone trying to mix 2D and 3D animation styles and I honestly really enjoyed the jokes but I’m so happy that we got a fairly good series that actually let us explore the universe some! I wish we got more “risky” ideas like that again but it seems like that will be a good while coming at least
Banger show, my childhood
also I dunno I feel like Transformers as a whole depends a lot on characters being instantly discerned by accents or voice quirks(like Southern Ironhide, Brooklyn Wheeljack, British Shockwave, even Optimus' deep and Megatron's gravelly voices). Plus I think it helped give the show's feel of traveling across the world... on a galactic scale anyway.
Also shout out to those convention comics that gave a role to the Cybertron toys that weren't in the show. My man Hardtop has been done justice
Also the repaints like Dark Scorpinok that had them come from an alternate universe as well as that weird deluxe class Unicron figure.
@@muigokublack6487force of habit is quite epic.
Transformers cybertron is the first transformers series I’ve watched and I love it ever since I was a kid
Armada brought me in, but Cybertron was the first line I collected in full when it came out. It was also the first time I went online to see clips from the original Japanese version. A lot of great memories of Cybertron/GF. It's the series that personally has the most meaning for me.
There arent enough words to express the excitement of my wee lad version felt seeing cybertron transform. I was literally trembling trying to eat lunch during my home schooling
I enjoyed the stock footage conversations. A chance for extra character moments, and kept it from getting stale. Gave you something else to pay attention to
My boy starscream made autobots and galvatron alike eat dirt in this series.
The best parts of the Cybertron toy line: cyber keys and a transforming planet Cybertron. Transformers Cybertron was the best of the Unicron Trilogy.
The "Ben 10" franchise gets around the stock footage situation by claiming that the transformations are instantaneous, and the stock footage we see is just slow motion. The same could be said of the Sailor Moon transformation sequences.
Cybertron is the most 'Super Robot' any of the Transformers Animes had ever been. It's also the last Transformers TV Anime(since Go! is basically an OVA) and I kinda wish we had a new Transformers TV Anime like Cybertron. Also, wasn't this the last show to call the Autobots and Decepticons the Cybertrons and Destrons and the last to call an Optimus 'Convoy'? Also also, Lori is best Girl.
Great figures, decent show. I really liked the velocitron and jungle planet arcs. But looking back at those toys, they were massive compared to what we get today.
This was the first TF show that I watched when I was growing up so I have a lot of love for Cybertron and it brings me such insane nostalgia. Glad to see so many people still love it after over 15 years
Different parts of Cybertron have different accents, far better than everyone being a generic American
**deep breath**
OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER!!!
TO SAVE THEM AND THE GALAXY, WE MUST FIND THE FOUR CYBER PLANET KEYS BEFORE THE DECEPTICONS CAN USE THEM FOR EVIL!
IT IS OUR MISSION!
HOT SHOT!
JETFIRE!
@@Fuzzy_Barbarian HOT SHOT! JETFIRE! VECTOR PRIME! LANDMINE! SCATTERSHOT! OPTIMUS PRIME! TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!
Cybertron is one of the few times the English dub can be considered better than the original Japanese version with subtitles because of how much energy the VAs brought to the anime
Nice joke
"With this extra power, I'll show you my own version of abracadabra!"
Nah the stock animation speeches were the hypest thing ever!
Agreed, they was some of my favourite parts.
For me, Megatron/Galvatron (I call both forms Galvatron), Starscream, Scourge, Thunderblast, and Lori carried the show
This was my real first foray into Transformers. I loved this show so much. Heck, I went and bought my only Legacy toy, Override, because I wanted an updated Override that didn’t have a broken transformation tab in the leg. If I get the chance, I’m gonna hunt down other Legacy releases of other Cybertron characters!
When it comes to cybertron (2005), there are some part I do like and some I think could have been better. Like the three things I did like in Cybertron where the three human characters, Coby Lori and Bud, they feel like if Rad, Alexis and Carlos from Armada were actually interesting characters and less one dimensional. I also like the character of Vector Prime, I like his knowledge on the history of Cybertron and the universe, and I also like how he was basically the Alpha Trion of the series with him being like a mentor to Optimus Prime. Lastly, I will admit the final battle of the series between Optimus and Galvatron is probably one of my favourite Transformers moments of all time, I just love how over the top it is with both them going all powerful and Optimus making a speech about how he can defeat Megatron with the power of friendship is just so cheesy, and I love it. But with that said, yeah Cybertron does still have it’s problems like the animation, while it does look better than it’s predecessor, Energon and it does have it’s moments sometimes, still does kind of look a bit stiff and rushed at times. Not to mention it’s constant use of repeated transformation scenes do feel like they’re interrupting the story. So overall, Cybertron is a very 50/50 series for me, again it has stuff I like but it also has some problems. But I won’t deny that Cybertron left an impact in the series as it was the last Transformers series of many things. It was the last Transformers show to have Garry Chalk as Optimus and David Kaye as megatron, which if you count Beast Wars and Beast Machines means that they had voiced the characters for 10 years, it was the last transformers show to have an all Canadian based voice cast in general (unless if you count more recently with the BotBots series, but then again that show had Toronto based actors not Vancouver) and it was the last transformers series to be produced in Japan, unless you count Transformers Go but that was more of a web series.
even some of the human element was great. the kids weren't super annoying and were actually quite useful to the plot.
even the shady government type guy was revealed to be not so shady and wanted to help.
now if only government officials in movies adapting cartoons acted more like this guy instead of the endless sea of morally bankrupt, xenophobic, shoot-first, inhumane-experimenting assholes like the Michael Bay movies etc.
This show is the reason I loved Transformers as a kid.
Some series do try to give in-story explanations for why enemies cannot just attack during transformations. Voltron, GaoGaiGar, Gundam, Kamen Rider, and many others have established that the transformation or combination process either creates or is accompanied by some form of barrier effect. This can range from purely being defensive (preventing damage) to actually being offensive (knocking back or even damaging attackers).
A few shows just treat the stock transformation movements as optional, with the transforming characters actually able to act freely while transforming. Some series imply transformations are near instantaneous, by showing little to no time could have passed around the transformation. While Kill la Kill plays with such genre tropes, its second episode starts Ryuuko's transformation as normal, but switches to a wide shot of Ryuuko and her opponents instead of the normal stock footage. Here, her transformation plays out in about three seconds. (Also, rather than being sexy, it consists of a grotesque deformed blood spewing Senketsu inflating like a balloon before snapping back to a fully transformed Ryuuko.
Then you have Dragon Ball, where people explicitly choose to wait on their opponent's transformations just to get the chance for a better fight.
Galaxy Force was a favorite of mine!
I adore this series, easily my favorite still after a few viewings
Hate to break this to ya, but every character in every transformers series that has a speaking role has an accent.
Never understood that criticism, it makes no sense
I had a lot of fun watching Cybertron. They do repeat 'IT'S OVER NOW, MEGATRON!' a little too often by the end of the show :p and there's nothing cooler than CYBER KEY POWER! Plus, I miss the old Japanese stock footage and the characters going 'TRANSFORM!!!!' super dramatically.
Cybertron was what brought me into the Transformers franchise as a whole. The cartoon to me was so goddamn fun (even though I find it a bit cringe as is now). The intro is iconic and thanks to the transformation sequences I transformed my hotshot and jetfire without the instructions. To this day my holy grail for the entirety of transformers is Galaxy Force optimus prime.
The first Optimus Prime and Megatron Toys a got when I was in 5th Grade was from The Cybertron Toyline.
Let's not forget galvatron was repainted to g1 galvatron toy comic
what I love about this series is the planet hopping with different transformers, cars, beasts, giants....everything!
I am currently trying to trudge through Transformers Energon.
Cybertron’s all the more impressive when you consider that not only was it a massive improvement on Energon show-wise and toy-wise, but it managed to turn a completely unrelated show into the final chapter of the Unicron Trilogy.
Alpha Q alone is a more compelling character that anyone in Cybertron, honestly.
It’s not unrelated, the plan during the trilogy was to have 3 shows and there is evidence Aaron Archer was developing Cybertron as the 3rd entry. Somewhere along the line in japan the writing changed to not be related yet the outline it follows seems to come from when it was a 3rd entry so Hasbro reattached the series
@@genyakozlov1316Nice joke
Buah
Energon es mejor que cybertron
Con Energon a partir del episodio 15 la cosa se pone chevre, y si, el 3D es una mierda junto a tramas algo desaprovechadas pero lo disfrute
Cybertron es aburrida, apenas unos 6 episodios me gustaron, es lenta y sosa, la gente solo ama el programa por nostalgia, porque para mí es solo un comercial para vender juguetes
Ambas series me las ví a partir de este año, para que luego no digan que solo defiendo Energon por verla de niño, es más, antes pensé que Energon era una porquería, pero actualmente que me la ví la veo divertida, excepto kicker y ironhide
Lo único que me gusta de cybertron son los juguetes, esos si son chéveres, y entran en el top 10 de mejores líneas de Transformers
What they needed to do with those super slow transformation and combination scenes was just remove like 98% of them. It makes sense the first time a character transforms, or the first time 2 or more characters combine, but after that what's the point? Imagine if in Transformers Prime every single transformation was as slow and drawn out as the cool, awe inspiring reveal moments when human characters *_first_* meet the Autobots?
Imagine if when Starscream transformed to get away from Megatron in the episode where Megatron gets all healed up and comes to beat Starscreams teeth in Starscream had a super slow motion transformation with dialogue lol.
I'll tell you why, it let them put out 50+ episodes in a year while cutting down on costs on animation and writing lol
Granted thats not a good thing generally. But the fact that recent shows like Prime Wars and Netflix WFC were like each under 30 episodes, took 3 years to finish, and have lackluster reception just makes them look even more poorly budgeted
I also repeated the overdub gag from Alt Transformers MUSH too. At a least two points, I had an Autobot with a big cannon say 'activate blaster beam go' before firing, with then the con saying, 'why do you keep telegraphing what you're going to do?'
For me in the unicron trilogy toyline Cybertron has it most of the figures had decent posing and the gimmick like the keys and 4 different styles. Show wise I lean more to armada the animation while had some errors was nice over the CGI and some characters like starscream, sideways, hot shot, smokescreen, and my beloved demolishor.
Cybertron was my introduction for Transformers!! 🔥
The giant Screamer returns as Regis Maximus in the fan film series Alt Transformers MUSH.
This entire show is one big reference to the Brave series and I love it for that. Its the most "super robot mecha anime" Transformers has ever gotten even when compared to Armada and Energon and you can just tell Chalk and Kaye are having the time of their lives doing the voices for Prime and Megatron for the last time together
The Fact They Wanted Jetfite Australian despite Scott McNeil who voiced Jetfire was AUSTRALIAN was a Literal Sin of the Entire Transformers Franchise and The Unicron Trilogy, I also can't Understand why Brent Miller, Ward Perry, Colin Murdoch and Ron Halder never Bothered to return as Hot Shot, Landmine, Wing Saber and Primus they was no explanation for those changes
From what I understand transformer gender isn't like human gender... It all comes down to a few lines of programming in there brains... Even the physical changes (keep in mind these are robots who can transform into vehicles, these few lines of coding determine how the robot form, designs itself,I guess)
As for how they reproduce... It typically isn't anything like a human... Actually varies wildly depending on the actual series...
P.s. there were some continuity mistakes with earlier points in the Unicron trilogy to the point where it doesn't really fit as part of the unicorn trilogy... For example Cybertron has Earth as a backwater planet we've never visited before, but we visited it in transformers Armada and by the time of energon it was to the point where EVERYBODY knows what a transformer is!!!
Transformer energon's Ocean City was on EARTH!!!
So they can call it part of the Unicron trilogy but it's really not it's just based on it, but that's not necessarily A bad thing!!! It's not a part of the unicorn trilogy IT'S BETTER
Cybertron was my favorite show in the unicorn trilogy and I still got figures from that libe . Optimus is my favorite version of Optimus in this show too
still waiting for a signal lancer toy.
Lori went on to become Coby's wife
A great toyline, combining at least four or five different aesthetics, with an incredibly good and well integrated gimmick. Only a few clunkers (freakin’ Backstop).
The only thing that hurts the cartoon is Japan deciding that this wasn’t going to be the third part of a trilogy but its own thing, with the dub awkwardly trying to patch for that.
Also, hate to disagree, but I love all the talking during the stock footage. Made it much more tolerable. And the accents were awesome.
Loved this show as a kid. Has the english dub collectors set of the whole show and a bunch of leader figures and big ol primus himself.
Transformers Cybertron will always be my favourite Transformers show. I may say overall animated, beast wars and prime are better, but the nostalgia is too much to say no to. Especially the music. OH MY GOD. Also, I really wished i still had my Cybertron figures, Cybertron defence hotshot and scout class scattershot. But those are gone. Same with my chances of getting either version of Cybertron optimus (original+2019 siege).
I loved this show. It was perfect
It would be cool if we got something like tf cybertron with the whole colonies thing going on
Armada was what introduced me to Transformers as a kid. Then I went in searching for other media and found an entirely world of it. XD
I still love how cybertron red alert because of the plastic used for the windshield makes the autobot insignia vanish in car mode
This... this is my G1.
I would get up at 6am every Saturday morning to watch Cybertron from September 2005 - 2006, the one time it was aired on free to air tv in Australia. Though i missed the first 2 episodes, i watched most of the series that way. I always had a good time watching. Though after seeing Megatron mow down Hot Shot, Scattorshot and Red Alert I spent the whole week wondering what was going to happen next Saturday morning. Watched the series for the 3rd time last year, after getting more Cybertron figures and i really enjoyed it. Aside from repetitive stock footage, I find Cybertron to be one of the best Transformers series.
Over all, I agree on the "accents as a substitute for character traits" being an issue, I still think thundercracker sounding like a backwoods hick should come back at some point, it was the most hilarious thing to me as a kid. (Possibly partially because I sounded kind of like thundercracker at the time)
I will second this to the end of time...Cybertron was excellent
A funny repeat dub error in the Masterforce shout factory line is that the dub person reads aloud Transform...Dash, because the dash mark is on the script page and he read the minus signs. :) (He is not saying transform and run., He is saying the dash mark, often).
Honestly Transformers Cybertron is the best show in the unicron trilogy in my opinion.
The series that introduced me to Transformers. I have the Takara version of both Optimus & Wing Saber.
I liked australian jetfire ('._.)
And the design, yeah the color scheme could have used some work
I'm glad to see that my G1/introduction to the series is so beloved in the comments here, a lot of people jumped on the boat at the same time as me, it seems! Fun fact, my very first ever Transformer was the Cybertron Skywarp, the Thundercracker repaint. It's long been broken, but I still have it as a monument of where it all started for me. And yeah, 100% correct, Cybertron had hands down the best toy line we've ever gotten in this franchise. And while I definitely think you're overthinking some things in regards to your criticisms of the show, I can definitely see it, but love the show regardless! The Legacy Override and even the Titan Metroplex based on Cybertron are 2 crown jewels of my modern-era section of my collection.
Had Dirtboss as a kid (still do). One of my first Decepticons with classics Astrotrain. Loved the transformation, colors, and both key gimmicks. So many fun hours with that toy. Got him in a 3 pack with Landmine and Snarl. Love Landmine, but my Snarl is pretty beat up since all my friends at school would borrow him. One lost his key, one his missile and tail/gun, and one snapped his wolf head off😂. Dirtboss and Landmine are still in great shape though
I absolutely loved the giant Starscream in Galaxy Force/CyberKey Wars/Cybertron. and the super powered convoy Optimus Prime, and the Super Link (Energon) Megatron and Galvatron.
I think Cybertron is by far the most underrated TF show. It’s not perfect - its animation is a bit dated and much like Armada, it starts off slow, and it is /heavily/ padded. But in that padding blooms one of its strongest elements: the characters. For such a huge cast, it balances a LOT of characters really well. Everyone has something to do, there’s some charming characters & arcs like Vector Prime, Override, & Scourge, and it has imo one of the GREATEST human casts ever. Not only that, but I think as slow as it starts, it’s really satisfying by the end with its grandiose scale and the completions of its plot threads. It’s not an S rank or top 3 pick, but I do think it’s a valid A rank or top 5.
Its the only TF show that actually gives its cast something to do as opposed to leaving half of them
@@MILDMONSTER1234 It does leave some of them, but there’s a good split, and of course they all return. Each planet has a cast that either remains or joins the main cast - examples including Override, Ransack, & Crumplezone vs Dirt Boss, Brakedown, & Clocker, Scourge & Snarl vs Backstop, Undermine, & Brimstone, and Evac, Mudflap, & Thunderblast vs Lugnutz & Crosswise. It’s well-balanced between the mains and secondaries.
This was my g1 growing up in the 2000s I still have the DVDs.
Cybertron/Galaxy Force and Animateds versions of Prime were the last versions of the character that were true to what Optimus was supposed to be before Bayformers and Prime kinda muddied the water
Didn't they have a Decepticon with a Russian accent? I believe he was a former Autobot tricked into becoming a Decepticon by Starscream.
That was the crane truck Mudflap, though I think his accent's supposed to be French
@@jaredhebert942 You may be right. He just sounded Russian to me.
“You wanna tussle with me mon’ a mi?” Helps remind me that Mudflap had a French accent
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer You're right. That does sound French.
Funny you should mention the talking over the transformation. In Transformers meets Robotech the fan film, Fire Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus from RID show up and try to combine, but it takes them so long to do so, rambling on, that the cons shoot them! Ha.
Ultra fusion blast beam energy blaster...(he still rambles) con rambles, while bot just does the Indy Jones with the sword guy and the pistol gag and shoots him dead. Ha.
Would you count Cybertron as sequel to Energon or a seperate continuity?
As 2 things Cybertron did that doesn't make sense as a sequel to Energon
1. Having to hide from humans again
2. Combining being a new thing.
Granted could be an alternate universe plot.
OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER!
the show would've shined if we had a planet with neutral or space pirates/ mercenaries or even the junkions ( liked a long forgotten colony)
i've got an idea; ranking optimus prime voices.
yes, even the web cartoon cyberverse one.
You mean cyber missions or action blast?
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242action blast.
you know the two episode one.
Overall, I enjoyed Cybertron. Where I had a problem was Hasbro's insistence that it was in continuity with the Unicron Duology.
Ever watch Devil Hunter Yoko? Enemies did attack her mid transformation.
Just recently picked up primus and the supreme class starscream.
My very first transformers cartoon!
Cybetron was how I got into transformers
i also like cyber keys, i became a fan of the transformers franchise because of transformers cybertron
Cybertron allowed for new iteration of characters instead of g1/beast wars love that we have today. Like Optimus but his alt mode has grown stale.
I always wonder why the bots would stand around and let combiners combine. Shot the ports fam!!
Personally, I think of the Japanese exclusives from the BWN-GF era (going through CR/RID2001, and having a slight drop in SL/Energon) as the height of the franchise and GF/Cybertron as the height of the height in terms of Japanese design and audiovisual quality (in some points, GF still hasn't surpassed BW, but as a Japanese production it has)
When racecar megs wears out, his head falls back into his neck. It's annoying. He's nearly 20 years old.
Very enjoyable video
I did like that they had a planet for beast transformers the different transformers inhabiting different planets was cool. I also liked cybertron Optimus prime being a fire truck and the wings he had in robot mode also soundwave being back was cool
I just have to say Cybertron has to take place in a different time line or something because armada and energon are definitely direct sequels to each other and have returning characters like Rad, Carlos and Alexis who are older you have Demolisher Tidelwave and Cyclonus but the only thing that cares over from energon to Cybertron is that Unicron has been destroyed what happened to all the autobot city's why has humanity forgotten about the transformers it doesn't make sense.
Originally, it was a separate show. In Japan, Micron Legend and Superlink were the same universe, but Galaxy Force wasn't. They changed that for the US version to make it a trilogy.
I thought it was so they could erase Kicker and make it so they wouldn't have to mention him again but it being separate makes more sense
The opening is among the best in the franchise
Say what you will about the plot or the voice acting, the OST was peak.
Now I remember why I stopped watching, even when you like something you have baffling takes, curse my nostalgia for bringing me back to this
I never watched the show although I bought tons of the toys when new thinking i wanted them but never really connecting with them. I've sold almost all of it now on ebay. Just a supreme Cybertron Starscream and the three armada seekers left.