The media has brainwashed fans, but not you. A ton of similarities, cause why wouldn’t you try to imitate the greatest? Lol. But his footwork was probably the best we’ve ever seen, even above Jordan.
voibits he ain’t lying lol watch whole games of Kobe and not just side by side video when they do the same moves. That’s easy to do with anybody, you know how many players do the same moves as each other? Crossovers, reverse layups, pump fakes, dream shake, fade-aways, etc. the whole league has access to the same exact moves and evolves with the times. Saying Kobe copies Michael because he had a post fade is ridiculous. There’s definitely a myriad of moves I’ve seen both of them do that the other doesn’t but y’all just stuck on what they did the same.
This is how I will remember Kobe: the "only" NBA player who had his 2 jerseys hangin' on the ceiling. 8 / 24 When your kid asks about that jersey: just like, Hey! dad, Bryant 8 and Bryant 24 are brothers? Are they twins? And then you were like, No son, it is just one man, Kobe.
Kobe Bean Bryant... one of the all time greats... I have nothing but respect for the guy and wish him nothing but a great life with his family in retirement
LeGOAT James Lebron is my favorite player of all time but I grew up on him and Kobe. I hate comparing them cause all people do are whine and argue about who’s better when it reality we just appreciate what they both brought to the game. Kobe was an amazing player and kept excitement in the game after MJ left. He’s one of the all time greats and the game isn’t the same without him on the court when the Lakers play. Once Lebron retires people will realize how special he was and instead of comparing him to others they should’ve just appreciated his greatness. Him and Kobe always give each other much respect, it’s just the fans love to argue about bs.
+Kevin K Facts bro, All MJ haters probably begged him to stay once he retired, same with Kobe haters and it'll be the same with LeBron haters.. they should learn to appreciate greatness while it's here but now worries, people like us get to enjoy it all 😎
how will I remember him? Whenever ANYONE shoots anything inside of something what is the word they say when they're shooting it? KOBE! ...Mamba Mentality
The ppl don't believe Lebron is better than Kobe. ESPN has ran multiple nationwide polls comparing them and on average about 70 percent always chose Kobe. The overwhelming majority of the players, hall of fame players (including Magic, Bird, and MJ), and coaches all chose Kobe. The media is the only talking about this whole Lebron vs MJ. The overwhelming majority all know Lebron hasn't passed Kobe. They bring up analytics because it benefits a stat stuffer type of player but they leave out how he jumped from team to team ring chasing. How he's always stayed in the very weak eastern conference AND with all of that has a disappointing 3 and 5 record. That's under 50 percent.
Kobe: Coaches - Del Harris, Phil Jackson, Rudy T, Mike Brown, Mike dantoni, Byron Scott Lebron: Coaches - Himself since 2003 Kobe: Superteams - 2004, 2013 Lebron: Superteams - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 Kobe: All star teammates - Shaq, Pau Gasol Lebron: All star teammates - Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Dwyane Wade, Isaiah Thomas, Chris Bosh It's hard for me to say a person with an easier path to greatness is better than the person that went thru more hell and still came away with more success... Kobe>Lebron
That 2013 team wasn't really a superteam though. Because 1) Nash is already washed up, 2) Pau is also washed up, 3) Dwight sucked that year, and wasn't really Dwight, and 4) their starting five rarely played together in reality, because of injuries over the season. They got to the playoffs for one reason and one reason only: Because Kobe went absolutely bonkers and willed them to 45 wins, before rupturing his heel.
King Abalos Films Nah it was a super team. The media put that team in the finals before their first preseason game. Nobody thought that team would suck until after the injuries to Nash, Pau, and Dwight
People talks about who would they choose between Kobe and Lebron starting a franchise. Here's my take, if you want to win 5 championship rings then it's Kobe; if you want to lose 5 times in NBA finals then it's Lebron. End of discussion. Whoever thinks otherwise must be Letarded.
I’d rather choose someone as unselfish as curry than these two selfish ass players. But if I had to then I would pick Lebron because at least I’m guaranteed playoffs. Lmao I don’t think Kobe can guarantee me anything above a ten seed.
cry like lebron when his teammates struggles in clutch time 😢 where's the killer instinct lebum?? you give up already? hahaha cry like dumbass=100% leadership= 0%
The Journey Technically, you are both right. Kobe was surely one of the most clutch players ever, but he is also the most inefficient clutch players ever if you look at the percentage of makes to attempts in the clutch. Kobe made more clutch shots than most dudes, but he also missed way more than anyone ever. So you both have sounds arguments really...
Best Kobe quote ever. They asked what do you do when it's before the playoffs and your feeling exhausted and what do you do when you hit the wall? Simple I run through it.
Everybody forget kobe wasn't a starter from day 1 like lebron, Kobe became a starter like year 3 and still up there with mj in many eyes, they're equal to me.. nothing Jordan could do that Kobe couldn't do
kobe for me is the 2nd greatest ever ... I agree 100% with what Max said... since Michael is slightly better than kobe, he is ranked 1st then some other legends like magic, kareem, bird, wilt, Russell, LeBron then kobe .. kobe is not just top 10 all time.. he is easily top 5 and for me he is number 2.. and LeBron is 3rd all time for me.. these 3 are incredible..
Ehab Mohammad Top 10 player all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 3. LeBron James 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Magic Johnson 6. Larry Bird 7. Tim Duncan 8. Shaq O'Neal 9. Kobe Bryant 10. Bill Russell Kareem 6 Rings Kobe 5 Rings Kareem 2 Finals Mvps Kobe 2 Finals Mvps Kareem 6 Mvps (Most Ever) Kobe 1 Mvp Kareem 38,387 Points (Most Ever) Kobe 33,643 Points Kareem 55% FG Kobe 44% FG Kareem 19 Time All Star (Most Ever) Kobe 18 Time All Star Kareem NBA All Time Leading Scorer Kobe NBA All Time Leader in Missed Shots 14,481 Kareem better basketball player then Kobe easily.
Montel Owens kobe number 9 is just wrong... not gnna even bother look at the stats.. i just know kobe is better than everyone other than jordan... i've seen him and got amazed so many times.. his mentality, his work ethic is second to none... however, jordan eclipsed him overall .. lebron is so close to kobe just like kobe is so closw to jordan .. but i swear i would never hesitate to putting these 3 ahead of anyone else.. no disrespect to the other all time greats..
Kobe and LeBron are easily top 5 players. I would still rank Kobe ahead of LeBron just for mentality alone. But LeBron definitely needs to be up there with them.
Max represents the Media. Max is missing the point. If you only see the similarities, you miss out on the rest. Kobe did other things. The players pick Kobe because they know what it takes. Kobe has moves and skills Michael did not get to display. Kobe is Kobe. Look at his highlight real and you'll see the differences as well. Simple minded people think simple things. History, the current players are already proving Max's statement wrong. He means the Media. MVP is a media award. Media can say what they want but the players and the fans know better
Am I the only one in the comment section who is a Lebron fan that respects the hell out of Kobe???? I feel as though almost every Lebron/Kobe fan hates the other player for literally no reason at all lmao.
Kobe was better than Jordan in many ways. There are plenty of stats that people have no idea about alongside his better ball handling better footwork better shooting etc etc
Berlie Cabrido every single player looked up to another person so that is a dead conversation. And that still doesn't change the fact that he was better at multiple things and in my opinion the best. You should check up some of the ridiculous stats that he has that 99% of people have no clue about unless you're a real fan. Dont forget that mj could NOT do it without pippen and kobe DID without shaq
Game 3 of the 2017 NBA finals, last seconds, game on the line: Everybody on the Warriors know that LeBron will pass to get the assist for a triple double. Curry certainly know that cause he fakes being trapped on K.Love's screen, then proceed to defend well on Korver = Missed shot = Warriors 3 - Cavs 0. Stats don't tell the whole story. If I'm trying to win championships, I take Kobe over LeBron.
How? Im no fan of LBJ but he passed to an open korver. That was the right basketball decision. Sure Kobe would have taken the three himself it but it was contested nicely by green, chances are he wouldn't make it.
His intensity. without question, him and his fellow rivals had the same thing, Shaq, KG, Webber, Iverson, T-Mac, etc.. man they would destroy most of today's players
But Lebron can beat Kobe in: Head to head 16-6 vs Kobe Points per game Rebounds per game Assists per game Steals per game Blocks per game Fg% 3pt % PER Win Shares Mvps Finals MVPs And at the end of this season all first team NBA selections. Now that’s a fact.
Kobe has a career average of 25 5 5. Thats after retirement and an accumulation of all the years he's played. LeBron is 27 9 9 and is in his 15th year. Hes not done yet so naturally he'll have higher averages since he is still healthy and playing. When he is done, it will most likely drop due to age and decline. head to head shouldnt matter. Kobe has a higher head to head comparison with MJ. doesn't make Kobe better nonethless Kobe came in right as MJ was basically done. it's a team effort for games head to head not individual player. LeBron has a had a better team than Kobe most of those games especially after he joined the heat.
Ikr!! Why is that still a debate? Didnt lebron pass MJ in 2016? weve always known hes been better as an overall basketball player and that accomplishment sealed the deal. But ESPN needs ratings lol and theres enough MJ superfans to keep the debate going
Kobe was a more skilled player than Jordan on offense. Not defense but Jordan had a better career. Jordan was beloved by all and was never really hated. Kobe was that is why people don't appreciate him as much. On offense he was better than Jordan. Dont throw numbers and efficiency on me. The things Kobe did, the shots he was able to make, the way he got himself open. He is incredible.
Well idk you Max, but I don't like your attitude towards Kobe. I accept he had been a ball hog but i gotta say this, KOBE IS THE MOST CLUTCH PLAYER. He would snatch the W from yo mouths. That's the kinda player Kobe was.
Mike ferrari Ferrari Yeah but even when he missed, you thought it was going in. You wouldn't even be mad if he missed. People would be mad if someone else missed. Also, everyone knew Kobe was going to shoot the last shoot so defenses were always ready, but Kobe still managed to get shots off on two or three guys guarding him.
lol they talk about Kobe coming in then ended with a comparison between Lebron and MJ? lmao give credit where it’s due, Kobe was phenomenal! and so is MJ and Lbron
You did notice I said he "compares" better with Magic Johnson..........right ??? Lebron is certainly more athletic than Magic, but they do have similar skill sets. A '6"8' 250 lbs player with a high basketball IQ, pg skills, and can guard all 5 positions on the court. Not to mention, he makes everybody around him better.
People forget how ridiculous Kobe was at the prime of his career. When he was at his absolute peak, I don't think there was any player who could compare to him, not even MJ in his prime. That 06 season, Kobe had like 6 50+ pt games, 25 40+ pt games, the 62 against Dallas in 3 quarters, and of course the 81 pt game. All of that was WITH the double and triple teams he was facing because the rest of the starting 5 was Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Chris Mihm.
Come on Max , you could have done better than this ...can't believe your still one of those with this thing about Kobe being like Mike...Mike - Kobe - LBJ are phenomenal players but they are all unique and had to learn from old legends to perfect their dreams...
The one thing i will remeber about kobe is this, he had one of the worst yet best mentalities . While yes he was focused on dominating he did not realize that basket ball is a team game. He got so focused in dominating that he forgot one thing, how to pass.
I would give Kobe's work ethic was greater than Jordan's. Kobe was more dedicated to the game. Jordan gambled, played golf, cards. Jordan just did other things. Kobe was laser focused just on basketball.
Hopefully we'll get to see that level of talent of a Kobe Bryant again. Maybe one day. Kobe set his own bar that now has to be attained. And Max, I can't make an argument for Magic, but I damn sure can make a argument for Larry Legend who's the greatest Small Forward to touch a Basketball. Larry Legend I definently have ahead of Kobe who is easily top10 but Larry Legend is Top5 easily.
Because their is no such thing as a 'killer instinct'. Its not palpable nor measurable. It's just a made up thing people use to criticize whatever argument they are trying to make and especially when you have it branded it on you (i.e Kobe) people will gloss over all the times you missed and only remember the times you got it (which is way less than what you missed). You can't say lebron doesn't have killer instincts when he has the most points in the 4th quarter this season than anybody and has better clutch statistics than Kobe (look it up) while he's not even a shooter, he's a facilitator.
HumanLikeButton Exactly he’s not a shooter, case closed. MJ and KB the best in the game. If I had to pass the ball with 10 seconds on the clock, the rock is going to MJ or KB.
SOLOAMANTES Someone with 3 Finals MVPs, who only Jordan has more than, has to have some sort of Killer Instinct... You don't lead three teams to championships if you ain't got it. End of story. He's just more of facilitating type dude, whereas Kobe would just shoot til he made it. Kobe had many game-winners, but he also had many game-winning MISSES, as well as many times where he caused them to lose because he was 8 for 30 shooting. LeBron's one or two bad moments are more glaring because he's was so scrutinized. Kobe had his horrible moments, too. We just choose not to remember them...
The ball went to Paxson and Kerr instead of Jordan don't you remember in the Finals? You know Lebron has better shots made/shots attempts in final seconds than Jordan. Where was Kobe during game 7 finals vs Celtics? Where he went cold.. in game 7. Just because you shoot better doesn't mean your a better player otherwise Curry would be the greatest NBA player and so would Durant because of him trajecting to be the greatest scorer of all time. Theirs a reason why everybody puts Lebron ahead of Kobe bc of Lebrons ability to do more than scoring unlike Kobe. And either way Lebron is about pass Jordan and Kobe in scoring in playoffs, regular seasons and finals while not leading in most MISSED shot attempts which Kobe is number #1 in so... In every statistic category, Lebron is better than Kobe at lol
Mj played 4 years in college he was more mentally and physically nba ready when he came into leage kobe came straight outa highschool of cours his first few years wont compare
Objective Argument for Kobe over Bron (and Magic and Bird and any other non Big) Kobe over Bron 1. Kobes a better DEFENDER. Thats half of the argument won there. To keep things in perspective, MJ was a A+ defender for over a decade. He was defensive player of the year. Lead the league in steals numerous times. Was 1st team All Defensive 9 times. Kobe was a A defender 10 years straight and a B or B+ defender for about 2-3 years. Kobe has 12 all defensive team selections and 9 for first team. Him and MJ ate tied for most first team all defense selections. Kobe is second all time in most all team defense selections with 12 only behind Tim Duncan. Bron was an A defender for 5-years at most. And a B defender for another 1-3 years. He has only 5 first team first team selections and 1 second team. In his 17 years he was considered an elite defender 5 times and a good defender 1 other time. 2a. Lets talk offense. Now before you bring the “effeminacy” argument and wrongfully knock all of Kobes offensive off. Kobe having a 45% fg and Bron having a 50% fg means literally this. If both took 20 shots Kobe hits 9 while Bron hits 10. However, if you carefully look from where these shots are coming you will “easily” see who is the more versatile scorer. Kobe is a legit threat from anywhere at anytime while Brons gets close to 65%-75% of his shots from with in 10 feet and that too in a league which has eliminated the Power forward position and has shifted centers to the perimeter hence the Lane and paint are open and not heavily protected unlike when Kobe played and definitely unlike when MJ played. Also, offensively Kobe is not a liability from anywhere rather a threat and Bron is a *liability* from the “free throw line” especially in late games. This virtually minimizing his greatest strength which is to attack the basket and getting to the rim. Both Kobe and Bron have 15 all Nba team selections. While Bron has 12 first teams to Kobes 11, Kobe was riddled with Injury his final 3-4 years. Kobe has finished top ten in MVP voting 12 times and top 5 in MVP voting 11 times. (The MVP voting is by the media and there’s no doubt that he got robbed of at least 2-3 MVPs) Bron has finished top five in mvp race 13 times and top ten 14 times. 2b. However, for argument sake even if we say Bron is an A offensively and Kobe is an A-, this difference in offensive greatness is more insignificant than the difference in both players on the defensive end. Overall Kobe edges Bron. 3. When looking at the intangibles. While Bron physically gets the players around him more involved he doesn’t impact their greatness or potential to be better. In fact the research shows that Lebrons teammates actually underperform while playing with him and perform better when not playing with him. Kobes teammates have stated the impact Kobe has had on their game. While he will not physically get his teammates as involved as Bron does by passing the ball (largely due to the triangle offense design) Kobes work ethic and leadership demands the BEST version of his teammates and he pushes them to reach their potential. Also Kobes will, determination, mental toughness during adversity is unparalleled. This also has a trickling effect on his teammates. This is something Kobes an A+ at and Lebron, while he has improved but nothing more than a B+ and that too he developed after teaming up with D wade. Enough Said.
It is not because they play the same position, it is because he emulated Jordan and fell just a little short.. So a debate on Jordan vs Kobe is pointless, because if you are starting a franchise everyone is going to choose the player who did that style best, which was Jordan. Now other great players you can find an argument for, because they may bring different things to the table; and at that point it just depends on what you are looking for. I believe that was Max's argument.
I don't get how people can say Kobe is the closest thing we've seen to Jordan but then automatically put LeBron ahead or Kobe..if you say Jordan is the best basketball player ever and Kobe is the closest we've seen to Jordan then how Kobe can't be ranked second off that logic
Because he copied everything Mike did. Walk, talk, mannerism. As great as Kobe was, that's the reason hrs often overlooked. His style of played was nothing original.
The problem with Lebum fans is that when they compare Leflop to kobegoat they only bring stats. They intentionally leave rings, clutch mentality and winning mentality. So what if LeBron averages more rebounds and assists, if he is just gonna turn into Lebrick when it matters the most. I swear people tend to forget about his god awful meltdowns in many playoffs and just want to declare him goat becaue of his stat padding.
And LeBron teamed up with players who should've have been his opponents... Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love. He diminished the fire power of other teams and stockpiled his. LeBron took shortcuts period!
lol gabriel freits look at his mentality! he's crying like a bitch every damn season he can't even beat old kidd and nowitzki team. he's asking for help EVERY YEAR. whining up about anything.
I really wanna see a debate of Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe because he’s always taking the greatness of Kobe and giving it to Lebron . I haven’t seen a moment that he doesn’t praise Lebron and accept the reality of Kobe Bryant. Two different players but there both great in their on way
Naicol Koko Lopez Negron That's because Stephen A is more of a causal analyst and clearly does not praise LeBron but knows his greatness as compared to Shannon Sharpe where he practically worships the ground LeBron stands on. You have analyst such as the Herd, Nick Wright, and Shannon Sharpe who caters to LeBron. On the other hand, you have other analysis such as Skip Bayless who always criticizes him no matter what LeBron does because LeBron is not his cup of tea. Steph A is more causal. Then you have Chris Broussard who's always I'm unbiased towards everything.
Kobe had some moves that we never saw MJ use. His footwork was impeccable
Jamais what?
Jamais dude Kobe is the biggest Copycat of MJ! Stop this in denial!
The media has brainwashed fans, but not you. A ton of similarities, cause why wouldn’t you try to imitate the greatest? Lol. But his footwork was probably the best we’ve ever seen, even above Jordan.
Justin Ramos somebody got their feelings hurts. My bad..
voibits he ain’t lying lol watch whole games of Kobe and not just side by side video when they do the same moves. That’s easy to do with anybody, you know how many players do the same moves as each other? Crossovers, reverse layups, pump fakes, dream shake, fade-aways, etc. the whole league has access to the same exact moves and evolves with the times. Saying Kobe copies Michael because he had a post fade is ridiculous. There’s definitely a myriad of moves I’ve seen both of them do that the other doesn’t but y’all just stuck on what they did the same.
This is how I will remember Kobe: the "only" NBA player who had his 2 jerseys hangin' on the ceiling. 8 / 24
When your kid asks about that jersey: just like, Hey! dad, Bryant 8 and Bryant 24 are brothers? Are they twins?
And then you were like, No son, it is just one man, Kobe.
lucky bulletsThis was funny asf
lucky bullets And the only nba player with 30,000 points and 6,000 assists
I would make my son quit school and study the game of basketball for a year
Preach
Zavier Smith how was that funny?
Greatest Scorer Of All Time
*Shooting a paper into the trash *Kobe**
Frankie Russell exactly
Kobe Bean Bryant... one of the all time greats... I have nothing but respect for the guy and wish him nothing but a great life with his family in retirement
LeGOAT James thank you. Respect to you as a lebron fan who isn't cancer and comes on these videos just to hate. You're a real 1
💯 back at you
LeGOAT James Lebron is my favorite player of all time but I grew up on him and Kobe. I hate comparing them cause all people do are whine and argue about who’s better when it reality we just appreciate what they both brought to the game. Kobe was an amazing player and kept excitement in the game after MJ left. He’s one of the all time greats and the game isn’t the same without him on the court when the Lakers play. Once Lebron retires people will realize how special he was and instead of comparing him to others they should’ve just appreciated his greatness. Him and Kobe always give each other much respect, it’s just the fans love to argue about bs.
+Kevin K Facts bro, All MJ haters probably begged him to stay once he retired, same with Kobe haters and it'll be the same with LeBron haters.. they should learn to appreciate greatness while it's here but now worries, people like us get to enjoy it all 😎
Kobe is not a "copy"
If MJ was the Original - Kobe was the REMIX BABBYYYYY!!!!
& yet as still, the "remix" couldn't fuck with the original, even on his best day...
qsplak he could tho
qsplak Remix babyyyy!
Learnhowtogaurdup Lmfao! Yea SURE he could! Lol!
yonyLA8028 Don't get a sore throat, screaming like that lil fella. Lol.
Spending 2/3 of this video name dropping Michael Jordan and lebron James is just disrespectful on Kobe’s day
DwadeFL4SHMV3 that’s all they try and do is downplay his greatness. All good tho
how will I remember him? Whenever ANYONE shoots anything inside of something what is the word they say when they're shooting it? KOBE! ...Mamba Mentality
Kobe is the greatest player of the greatest basketball franchise in history.
Peter Skotta sounds like someone is a little biased
Peter Skotta Why
Why
Celtics are a better organisation and didn't need the refs to win championships a la 2002 WCF game 6.
LeBron is better by a mile
Kobe was one of the best on the b-ball court !!!
The ppl don't believe Lebron is better than Kobe. ESPN has ran multiple nationwide polls comparing them and on average about 70 percent always chose Kobe. The overwhelming majority of the players, hall of fame players (including Magic, Bird, and MJ), and coaches all chose Kobe. The media is the only talking about this whole Lebron vs MJ. The overwhelming majority all know Lebron hasn't passed Kobe. They bring up analytics because it benefits a stat stuffer type of player but they leave out how he jumped from team to team ring chasing. How he's always stayed in the very weak eastern conference AND with all of that has a disappointing 3 and 5 record. That's under 50 percent.
clo 1014 well said. Agree wholeheartedly
Lmao Kobe never had carry he’s team dude got swept by mavs🤣 couldn’t even beat okc
@@yogo3457 Kobe always carried his team lol
Kobe was unstoppable in his prime
Kobe:
Coaches - Del Harris, Phil Jackson, Rudy T, Mike Brown, Mike dantoni, Byron Scott
Lebron:
Coaches - Himself since 2003
Kobe:
Superteams - 2004, 2013
Lebron:
Superteams - 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Kobe:
All star teammates - Shaq, Pau Gasol
Lebron:
All star teammates - Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Dwyane Wade, Isaiah Thomas, Chris Bosh
It's hard for me to say a person with an easier path to greatness is better than the person that went thru more hell and still came away with more success... Kobe>Lebron
MrAVGNdude are u dumb or what?
That 2013 team wasn't really a superteam though. Because 1) Nash is already washed up, 2) Pau is also washed up, 3) Dwight sucked that year, and wasn't really Dwight, and 4) their starting five rarely played together in reality, because of injuries over the season.
They got to the playoffs for one reason and one reason only: Because Kobe went absolutely bonkers and willed them to 45 wins, before rupturing his heel.
So your still comparing huh? Annoying ass fans like you is the reason so many people hated Kobe throughout his career
King Abalos Films Nah it was a super team. The media put that team in the finals before their first preseason game. Nobody thought that team would suck until after the injuries to Nash, Pau, and Dwight
Dk B *You're.... its basic education my nigga. Go back to school
We will miss you, Kobe. Mamba out 😩
People talks about who would they choose between Kobe and Lebron starting a franchise. Here's my take, if you want to win 5 championship rings then it's Kobe; if you want to lose 5 times in NBA finals then it's Lebron. End of discussion. Whoever thinks otherwise must be Letarded.
I’d rather choose someone as unselfish as curry than these two selfish ass players. But if I had to then I would pick Lebron because at least I’m guaranteed playoffs. Lmao I don’t think Kobe can guarantee me anything above a ten seed.
cry like lebron when his teammates struggles in clutch time 😢 where's the killer instinct lebum?? you give up already? hahaha cry like dumbass=100% leadership= 0%
Tommywood yea probably... if you chose kobe in his last 4 seasons🤷♂️. twilight years little kid learn about it.
One of the greatest to ever do it ✊ most clutch player in NBA history
The Journey stop
He's actually one of the worst clutch performer's of all time
Issho you're joking right 😂 kobe lived for gamewinners , when the game was on the line that is when the mamba came out
Flight Jjfish just speaking the truth
The Journey Technically, you are both right. Kobe was surely one of the most clutch players ever, but he is also the most inefficient clutch players ever if you look at the percentage of makes to attempts in the clutch. Kobe made more clutch shots than most dudes, but he also missed way more than anyone ever. So you both have sounds arguments really...
MJ & Kobe end of discussion
Best Kobe quote ever.
They asked what do you do when it's before the playoffs and your feeling exhausted and what do you do when you hit the wall?
Simple I run through it.
8 was the kid
24 was the man!
Basketball will never be like it was when I was growing up in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.
Marcus Sewell yes it will
Marcus Sewell
8 was the Robin
24 was the Batman with a lot of Alfred around him😉
voibits and 24 was a scrub too
Everybody forget kobe wasn't a starter from day 1 like lebron, Kobe became a starter like year 3 and still up there with mj in many eyes, they're equal to me.. nothing Jordan could do that Kobe couldn't do
Except hit half of his shots for a season. Shit Jordan did it for a career
Beta Cancri Kobe took a lot of dumb shots but he still have more points than mj and don't talk to me about number of years played because I don't care
ahh so thats why lebron didn't get a championship for 9 years because he's a starter from day 1 🤔🤔🤔
lebron is fucking overrated, espn helped him to gain stats even he's injured
@@mcmorales750 THANK YOU!!! that man is overrated asf.
kobe for me is the 2nd greatest ever ... I agree 100% with what Max said... since Michael is slightly better than kobe, he is ranked 1st then some other legends like magic, kareem, bird, wilt, Russell, LeBron then kobe .. kobe is not just top 10 all time.. he is easily top 5 and for me he is number 2.. and LeBron is 3rd all time for me.. these 3 are incredible..
Ehab Mohammad
Top 10 player all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Tim Duncan
8. Shaq O'Neal
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Bill Russell
Kareem 6 Rings
Kobe 5 Rings
Kareem 2 Finals Mvps
Kobe 2 Finals Mvps
Kareem 6 Mvps (Most Ever)
Kobe 1 Mvp
Kareem 38,387 Points (Most Ever)
Kobe 33,643 Points
Kareem 55% FG
Kobe 44% FG
Kareem 19 Time All Star (Most Ever)
Kobe 18 Time All Star
Kareem NBA All Time Leading Scorer
Kobe NBA All Time Leader in Missed Shots 14,481
Kareem better basketball player then Kobe easily.
Ehab Mohammad Facts.. Finally a comment that's not shitting on one of these players.
Montel Owens kobe number 9 is just wrong... not gnna even bother look at the stats.. i just know kobe is better than everyone other than jordan... i've seen him and got amazed so many times.. his mentality, his work ethic is second to none... however, jordan eclipsed him overall .. lebron is so close to kobe just like kobe is so closw to jordan .. but i swear i would never hesitate to putting these 3 ahead of anyone else.. no disrespect to the other all time greats..
Kobe and LeBron are easily top 5 players. I would still rank Kobe ahead of LeBron just for mentality alone. But LeBron definitely needs to be up there with them.
Sixx God6 100% agree... kobe and lebron are easily top 5 and for me they are both in the top 3 right behind MJ
Max represents the Media. Max is missing the point. If you only see the similarities, you miss out on the rest. Kobe did other things. The players pick Kobe because they know what it takes. Kobe has moves and skills Michael did not get to display. Kobe is Kobe. Look at his highlight real and you'll see the differences as well. Simple minded people think simple things. History, the current players are already proving Max's statement wrong. He means the Media. MVP is a media award. Media can say what they want but the players and the fans know better
Pedro Justice exactly
Can’t agree more with Stephen A Smith well said 💯
WRONG! MAX! Kobe became his own identity. #mambamentality
rest in peace mamba😭🙏🏻
Will these guys ever be in the studio again? Jeee-sus
In the future, ESPN will retire Stephen A.smith's jersey. Hope this will happen my bro.
Am I the only one in the comment section who is a Lebron fan that respects the hell out of Kobe???? I feel as though almost every Lebron/Kobe fan hates the other player for literally no reason at all lmao.
....no, the issue is when people start BSing about lebron to make Kobe seem better than lebron.
see, this is the BS that happens...these people give kobe a bad name from the things they speak.
Am I the only one who hates when all people remember Kobe as Michael Jordan instead of all his great attributes and accomplishments
Kobe was better than Jordan in many ways. There are plenty of stats that people have no idea about alongside his better ball handling better footwork better shooting etc etc
Jeremy Obese the fact is your kobe is copy mj all moves lol
Berlie Cabrido every single player looked up to another person so that is a dead conversation. And that still doesn't change the fact that he was better at multiple things and in my opinion the best. You should check up some of the ridiculous stats that he has that 99% of people have no clue about unless you're a real fan. Dont forget that mj could NOT do it without pippen and kobe DID without shaq
Def a better shooter non debatable
Jeremy Obese MJ couldn't do it w/o Pippen? Really? Lmao!
Not on D.
Kobe is the greatest of all time. Period
Malik Morris
Kobe isnt even a top 3 Laker of all time, get outta here 😂😂😂
Malik Morris idiot comment
Hector Rayray I said period, no objections
Malik Morris lol fr
Sandernista fuck outta here kobe 2nd best player ever🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🖕🏽🖕🏽
G.O A.T.
MJ and The Mumba; The 2 Greatest players of all-time!!!!
How will you remember kobe hits really hard now 😢💔💔2 years later it still hurts 😢
I watched Kobe score 81pts live. I swear it looked like somebody had a PlayStation controller connected to him
Max needs his own show, to debate himself.
I remember kobe 2010 finals against the Celtics getting them back from the 2008 finals
Game 3 of the 2017 NBA finals, last seconds, game on the line: Everybody on the Warriors know that LeBron will pass to get the assist for a triple double. Curry certainly know that cause he fakes being trapped on K.Love's screen, then proceed to defend well on Korver = Missed shot = Warriors 3 - Cavs 0.
Stats don't tell the whole story. If I'm trying to win championships, I take Kobe over LeBron.
loo lebron is far better than kobe
How? Im no fan of LBJ but he passed to an open korver. That was the right basketball decision. Sure Kobe would have taken the three himself it but it was contested nicely by green, chances are he wouldn't make it.
Korver was wide open and he is one of the best corner three shooters to play in the nba
Chris Faux facts
If I'm trying to win championships I'll take Kobe and Shaq or Kobe and Gasol over LeBron sure.
Why do Kobe fanboys pretend only Kobe won those rings?
Kobe>Lebron
GOAT:
MAGIC, MJ, KOBE, LEBRON
Kobe Bryant is the greatest player to ever put on a Lakers uniform
Now hand me my Ws
You drunk
DDG's Ass Eating Face #ImSavingMyselfForKennedy I can tell you young af so I’ll excuse that dumb comment.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Kevin K lmao imagine thinking Kobe isn't the greatest Laker
idk why they disrespecting the goat...by bringing up these other names... smh
I don't see Kobe as a copy he took moves and skills from every great and made it his own
His intensity. without question, him and his fellow rivals had the same thing, Shaq, KG, Webber, Iverson, T-Mac, etc.. man they would destroy most of today's players
lebron cant beat kobe!! thats fact
Kobe did beat the teams that LeBron lost too.. spurs, Magic, celtics, etc.
But Lebron can beat Kobe in:
Head to head 16-6 vs Kobe
Points per game
Rebounds per game
Assists per game
Steals per game
Blocks per game
Fg%
3pt %
PER
Win Shares
Mvps
Finals MVPs
And at the end of this season all first team
NBA selections.
Now that’s a fact.
Kobe has a career average of 25 5 5. Thats after retirement and an accumulation of all the years he's played. LeBron is 27 9 9 and is in his 15th year. Hes not done yet so naturally he'll have higher averages since he is still healthy and playing. When he is done, it will most likely drop due to age and decline.
head to head shouldnt matter. Kobe has a higher head to head comparison with MJ. doesn't make Kobe better nonethless Kobe came in right as MJ was basically done. it's a team effort for games head to head not individual player. LeBron has a had a better team than Kobe most of those games especially after he joined the heat.
Your right, LeBron already did beat Kobe
Well said Max Kellerman
I would love to see number 8 & 24 Kobe go two on two against 80s & 90s Jordan
These guys still found out a way to bring up LeBron and that stupid MJ vs LeBron debate... My God...
Well it is ESPN after all
Ikr!! Why is that still a debate? Didnt lebron pass MJ in 2016? weve always known hes been better as an overall basketball player and that accomplishment sealed the deal. But ESPN needs ratings lol and theres enough MJ superfans to keep the debate going
good troll
not a troll if u think about it its facts
whitemamba1656 how tf did he pass Jordan in 2016? When he lost a damn final that year.. 😂😂 y’all Bronsexuals always reaching
Now I’m just waiting for the topic
Is lebron better than mj?
Is lonzo ball improving ?
Lebron another triple double
Who’s mvp lebron or harden
Bill Cosby classic Bill Cosby comment
Only few people have that killer instinct MJ,Kobe,Dwade had it and KD has its a rare breed of players who has it
Delmonte Miles YOU FORGOT BIRD TF
lol @ KD. that dude that said "im not a leader"?
Delmonte Miles Kd does not have that killer mentality, he was just blessed with so much skill that it looks like it
Delmonte Miles if that's the case why did Kd blow a 3-1 lead against gsw? Why is Kd 16-24 in the playoffs
Dr.Pikachu Everyone knows KD has the talent but not the mentality. Imagine KD talent mix with Westbrook mentality omg that would be a dream come true
Kobe was a more skilled player than Jordan on offense. Not defense but Jordan had a better career. Jordan was beloved by all and was never really hated. Kobe was that is why people don't appreciate him as much. On offense he was better than Jordan. Dont throw numbers and efficiency on me. The things Kobe did, the shots he was able to make, the way he got himself open. He is incredible.
GOAT
I don't think Kobe fell short. Dude was awesome
Well idk you Max, but I don't like your attitude towards Kobe. I accept he had been a ball hog but i gotta say this, KOBE IS THE MOST CLUTCH PLAYER. He would snatch the W from yo mouths. That's the kinda player Kobe was.
Mike ferrari Ferrari Yeah but even when he missed, you thought it was going in. You wouldn't even be mad if he missed. People would be mad if someone else missed.
Also, everyone knew Kobe was going to shoot the last shoot so defenses were always ready, but Kobe still managed to get shots off on two or three guys guarding him.
Avtaar Money are you happy with the attempt or made shot?
lol they talk about Kobe coming in then ended with a comparison between Lebron and MJ? lmao give credit where it’s due, Kobe was phenomenal! and so is MJ and Lbron
Cavin Lay exactly!!!!!!! That’s what I be saying
Lebron fans - go on Kobe videos to hate
Kobe fans retaliate on lebron videos
Lebron fans "why come on someone's video just to hate omg "
?????????
Michael Mathieu Hell nah nigga its the other way around.
Hold up. Kobe fans are the ones on every Kobe video comparing the two. Just read the comments on this video alone
My top ten
Mi
Kareem
Kobe
Lebron
Wilt
Magic
Shaq
Duncan
Bird
Bill Russell
Honourable mention
Hakeem
Julius erving
Kg
Dirk
I met mj
Wil Diaz meant*
Rakesh Rattu I meant mj
Wil Diaz Magic outside the top 3?! you're smoking
Wil Diaz not a bad top 10
You know you are GOAT when a video discussing Kobe's greatness but your name keeps popping out😂😂😂
Max and nick is savage haters on kobe.
Lebron compares better with Magic Johnson.
uthamanj lebron isn't like no one, he is a once in a lifetime player, his versatility is unmatched by any great before him.
You did notice I said he "compares" better with Magic Johnson..........right ??? Lebron is certainly more athletic than Magic, but they do have similar skill sets. A '6"8' 250 lbs player with a high basketball IQ, pg skills, and can guard all 5 positions on the court. Not to mention, he makes everybody around him better.
uthamanj how does he make them better
Eric Tolbert bitch u said once in a life time player lmao 3-5 in the finals lmfao
HoldMyOwn92, Kobe 2-7 as actual best player in the finals. Even bigger lmao.
such an honor to watch him for 16 years. u will be missed. the greatest player to ever play basketball. #mambamentailty
Kobe was only player who overcame it all....
Kobe is easily the best laker ever
People forget how ridiculous Kobe was at the prime of his career. When he was at his absolute peak, I don't think there was any player who could compare to him, not even MJ in his prime. That 06 season, Kobe had like 6 50+ pt games, 25 40+ pt games, the 62 against Dallas in 3 quarters, and of course the 81 pt game. All of that was WITH the double and triple teams he was facing because the rest of the starting 5 was Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Chris Mihm.
Kobe is the most skilled player ever.
Come on Max , you could have done better than this ...can't believe your still one of those with this thing about Kobe being like Mike...Mike - Kobe - LBJ are phenomenal players but they are all unique and had to learn from old legends to perfect their dreams...
Goat
The one thing i will remeber about kobe is this, he had one of the worst yet best mentalities . While yes he was focused on dominating he did not realize that basket ball is a team game. He got so focused in dominating that he forgot one thing, how to pass.
Zach Stolpa how does a person get to 29th all time in assist if they don’t know how to pass?
Ness im not saying he never passed but you have to admit there were multiple times in his career where he took the mamba mentality a bit to far
Zach Stolpa it’s a lifestyle dude and I’m not bein corny it’s really a lifestyle
Not or really if your guys can't hit shots sometime u have to do it by yourself that's where the mamba mentality come from
I would give Kobe's work ethic was greater than Jordan's. Kobe was more dedicated to the game. Jordan gambled, played golf, cards. Jordan just did other things. Kobe was laser focused just on basketball.
And still fell short lol
Hopefully we'll get to see that level of talent of a Kobe Bryant again. Maybe one day. Kobe set his own bar that now has to be attained.
And Max, I can't make an argument for Magic, but I damn sure can make a argument for Larry Legend who's the greatest Small Forward to touch a Basketball. Larry Legend I definently have ahead of Kobe who is easily top10 but Larry Legend is Top5 easily.
SShaBazzz who?
ScarzChosenspokesmen who what?
SShaBazzz who the hell is larry legend? Never heard of him
You talking about Bird?
ScarzChosenspokesmen Larry Bird.
SShaBazzz lol i actually never knew the nickname
Kobe was more skilled than mj I don't care. He wasn't just a copy he added things to his game
Max is right in this one
Where on TH-cam can you watch 1st take live
Lakers fan are still mad because the two greatest players of all time didn't and don't give a fuck about playing for that team.
Jordan, Magic, Kobe, LeBron, and Bird.
LeBron does not have it...killer instincts
Because their is no such thing as a 'killer instinct'. Its not palpable nor measurable. It's just a made up thing people use to criticize whatever argument they are trying to make and especially when you have it branded it on you (i.e Kobe) people will gloss over all the times you missed and only remember the times you got it (which is way less than what you missed). You can't say lebron doesn't have killer instincts when he has the most points in the 4th quarter this season than anybody and has better clutch statistics than Kobe (look it up) while he's not even a shooter, he's a facilitator.
HumanLikeButton Exactly he’s not a shooter, case closed. MJ and KB the best in the game. If I had to pass the ball with 10 seconds on the clock, the rock is going to MJ or KB.
SOLOAMANTES Someone with 3 Finals MVPs, who only Jordan has more than, has to have some sort of Killer Instinct... You don't lead three teams to championships if you ain't got it. End of story. He's just more of facilitating type dude, whereas Kobe would just shoot til he made it. Kobe had many game-winners, but he also had many game-winning MISSES, as well as many times where he caused them to lose because he was 8 for 30 shooting. LeBron's one or two bad moments are more glaring because he's was so scrutinized. Kobe had his horrible moments, too. We just choose not to remember them...
Kevin Murtagh With 10 seconds left on the clock and the game on the line, the rock is NOT going to LeBron, it’s going to MJ or KB case closed.
The ball went to Paxson and Kerr instead of Jordan don't you remember in the Finals? You know Lebron has better shots made/shots attempts in final seconds than Jordan. Where was Kobe during game 7 finals vs Celtics? Where he went cold.. in game 7. Just because you shoot better doesn't mean your a better player otherwise Curry would be the greatest NBA player and so would Durant because of him trajecting to be the greatest scorer of all time. Theirs a reason why everybody puts Lebron ahead of Kobe bc of Lebrons ability to do more than scoring unlike Kobe. And either way Lebron is about pass Jordan and Kobe in scoring in playoffs, regular seasons and finals while not leading in most MISSED shot attempts which Kobe is number #1 in so... In every statistic category, Lebron is better than Kobe at lol
Kobe Bryant >>>>>>>(Westbrook, Harden combine)
Josué López
If you "combine" Westbrook and harden, you get a more efficient and athletic version of Kobe.
William Davenport See the number of Kobe in his prime not the last 2 season of Kobe
Josué López
He still wasn't as efficient of a shooter or as good a three point shooters as contemporary NBA scorers.
I would love to see kobe play in big3
Anybody else sick of Max disrespecting Kobe?!
How and why people compare a small forward to a shooting guard? Its like comparing a dog to a cat.
1985 my birth year
P H that's mad dope.
Mj played 4 years in college he was more mentally and physically nba ready when he came into leage kobe came straight outa highschool of cours his first few years wont compare
Gio Salazar what about lebron then
GODBE
jeet GOATBE
Rip Donovan mcnabb
3rd best player of all time
Max: “This is how I remember Kobe...”
Proceeds to talk about MJ
G. O. A. T
Objective Argument for Kobe over Bron (and Magic and Bird and any other non Big)
Kobe over Bron
1. Kobes a better DEFENDER.
Thats half of the argument won there.
To keep things in perspective, MJ was a A+ defender for over a decade. He was defensive player of the year. Lead the league in steals numerous times. Was 1st team All Defensive 9 times.
Kobe was a A defender 10 years straight and a B or B+ defender for about 2-3 years.
Kobe has 12 all defensive team selections and 9 for first team. Him and MJ ate tied for most first team all defense selections.
Kobe is second all time in most all team defense selections with 12 only behind Tim Duncan.
Bron was an A defender for 5-years at most. And a B defender for another 1-3 years.
He has only 5 first team first team selections and 1 second team. In his 17 years he was considered an elite defender 5 times and a good defender 1 other time.
2a. Lets talk offense.
Now before you bring the “effeminacy” argument and wrongfully knock all of Kobes offensive off.
Kobe having a 45% fg and Bron having a 50% fg means literally this.
If both took 20 shots Kobe hits 9 while Bron hits 10.
However, if you carefully look from where these shots are coming you will “easily” see who is the more versatile scorer. Kobe is a legit threat from anywhere at anytime while Brons gets close to 65%-75% of his shots from with in 10 feet and that too in a league which has eliminated the Power forward position and has shifted centers to the perimeter hence the Lane and paint are open and not heavily protected unlike when Kobe played and definitely unlike when MJ played.
Also, offensively Kobe is not a liability from anywhere rather a threat and Bron is a *liability* from the “free throw line” especially in late games. This virtually minimizing his greatest strength which is to attack the basket and getting to the rim.
Both Kobe and Bron have 15 all Nba team selections.
While Bron has 12 first teams to Kobes 11, Kobe was riddled with Injury his final 3-4 years.
Kobe has finished top ten in MVP voting 12 times and top 5 in MVP voting 11 times.
(The MVP voting is by the media and there’s no doubt that he got robbed of at least 2-3 MVPs)
Bron has finished top five in mvp race 13 times and top ten 14 times.
2b. However, for argument sake even if we say Bron is an A offensively and Kobe is an A-, this difference in offensive greatness is more insignificant than the difference in both players on the defensive end.
Overall Kobe edges Bron.
3. When looking at the intangibles.
While Bron physically gets the players around him more involved he doesn’t impact their greatness or potential to be better. In fact the research shows that Lebrons teammates actually underperform while playing with him and perform better when not playing with him.
Kobes teammates have stated the impact Kobe has had on their game. While he will not physically get his teammates as involved as Bron does by passing the ball (largely due to the triangle offense design) Kobes work ethic and leadership demands the BEST version of his teammates and he pushes them to reach their potential.
Also Kobes will, determination, mental toughness during adversity is unparalleled. This also has a trickling effect on his teammates.
This is something Kobes an A+ at and Lebron, while he has improved but nothing more than a B+ and that too he developed after teaming up with D wade.
Enough Said.
Everybody wanna be like Mike. Me?!
I wanna be Like Kobe....
The BlackMamba 🙌🏽💪🏽
40/151 #Clutch #BestEver #MambaMentality
It is not because they play the same position, it is because he emulated Jordan and fell just a little short.. So a debate on Jordan vs Kobe is pointless, because if you are starting a franchise everyone is going to choose the player who did that style best, which was Jordan. Now other great players you can find an argument for, because they may bring different things to the table; and at that point it just depends on what you are looking for. I believe that was Max's argument.
I don't get how people can say Kobe is the closest thing we've seen to Jordan but then automatically put LeBron ahead or Kobe..if you say Jordan is the best basketball player ever and Kobe is the closest we've seen to Jordan then how Kobe can't be ranked second off that logic
because of bronsexuality
Because he copied everything Mike did. Walk, talk, mannerism. As great as Kobe was, that's the reason hrs often overlooked. His style of played was nothing original.
If he stays healthy and plays another 6 seasons LeBron's gonna end up with like 38-39k points and 10k rebounds & assists. DAMN
You know you are a bad ass when the opposing teams start chanting mvp...
MJ is the goat 🐐
The problem with Lebum fans is that when they compare Leflop to kobegoat they only bring stats. They intentionally leave rings, clutch mentality and winning mentality. So what if LeBron averages more rebounds and assists, if he is just gonna turn into Lebrick when it matters the most. I swear people tend to forget about his god awful meltdowns in many playoffs and just want to declare him goat becaue of his stat padding.
And LeBron teamed up with players who should've have been his opponents... Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love. He diminished the fire power of other teams and stockpiled his. LeBron took shortcuts period!
agree. and he doesn't even worth the last ring too. thanks to suspension to draymond and kyrie last shot :D
shadow physica u keep bringing up LeBron 2011 what about Kobe 2004 vs the pistons
lol gabriel freits look at his mentality! he's crying like a bitch every damn season he can't even beat old kidd and nowitzki team. he's asking for help EVERY YEAR. whining up about anything.
2012 eastern conference finals game 6 - just watch it
81,65,62,61,60 twice
Kobe was a killer!
I really wanna see a debate of Stephen A Smith and Shannon Sharpe because he’s always taking the greatness of Kobe and giving it to Lebron . I haven’t seen a moment that he doesn’t praise Lebron and accept the reality of Kobe Bryant. Two different players but there both great in their on way
Naicol Koko Lopez Negron That's because Stephen A is more of a causal analyst and clearly does not praise LeBron but knows his greatness as compared to Shannon Sharpe where he practically worships the ground LeBron stands on. You have analyst such as the Herd, Nick Wright, and Shannon Sharpe who caters to LeBron. On the other hand, you have other analysis such as Skip Bayless who always criticizes him no matter what LeBron does because LeBron is not his cup of tea. Steph A is more causal. Then you have Chris Broussard who's always I'm unbiased towards everything.
Jordan>Kobe>Lebron
Kenji Salazar L
Kenji Salazar. That's only common sense anybody else think otherwise is just tryna show favoritism ..end of discussion ...