New Old Jointer/Planer: Kity 636
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I found a very good deal for a Kity 636 Jointer/Planer combination on eBay, to replace my current one. It has a wider cutter head (25 cm), a VERY powerful motor and an overall much better build quality.
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A lot of very neat solutions to the problems you faced in this very interesting project!
Thanks John!
Really nice work in adding your own "extras". Simple but clever designs!
I liked the way you refurbished and older tool to be used again. That's how I done my woodworking shop, a tablesaw , bandsaw, and jointer all refurbished. It's a great way to save money and have good working equipment. I like doing that as much as the woodworking.
Congrats on the new jointer, and thank you for the walk through on its features and your upgrades.
You're quite an entertainer. I love your humor. You are intelligent, innovative, and more of a woodworker than I will ever be. Thank you for all of it. Here in the USA, you need to buy two machines to do the work of your Kity. Oh there are probably equivalents here but way out of the price range of weekend warriors like me. I like your Kity and what you've done with it to make it functional. Thanks for sharing.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch zur "neuen" Maschine!!! Wie immer ein tolles und informatives Video. Profi-Werkzeug für einen professionellen Woodworker! Immer wieder interessant und schön anzusehen welche tollen Ergebnisse Du bei all deinen Sachen/Projekten erzielst.
Great find and purchase! Excellent engineering and builds of the modifications! You seem very happy and rightfully so.
einfach nur faszinierend. Danke für die Einblicke in eine Abricht-Dickenhobelmaschine. Ich bewundere deine Fähigkeiten.
Great video. I like the way you approach the problems and create the solutions. Thanks for sharing.
Just bought one of these today 50 GB Pounds !! Boy was that a lucky find. I remember these when they were first made and I was jealous of those who could afford them.
Like a german friend always told me, If it's green and heavy, than it is a great machine.
Actualy its surprisingly lightweight.
Marius, you are truly a genius!
You come up with some of the simplest, clever ideas ever.
Keep up the outstanding work young man.
You make me want to look for a jointer just like yours. And of course I would do everything you did.
Again; you are truly a genius.
May Jesus continue to bless you with extraordinary gifts that you use to help all of us.
Looks like you defiantly got your moneys worth there, mind you the way you take machines apart then put them back together again, i don't think it matters what condition the machine is in. I think the way you make things to add on to machines to make them safer, or better than before is Brilliant. I don't know how you do it, Well Done.
Barry (ENG)
Hello Kity!
Eine richtig schöne alte Maschine und ich mag es, wie durchdacht sie ist.
Deine upgrades sind wieder gut und funktionell.
Glückwunsch zur Anschaffung!
Marius,
Your designs and builds are quite uniquely intuitive and fun to watch. The extend of your knowledge and abilities is quite impressive and far above your age. Your knowledge of mechanical engineering and industrial design is really remarkable. You must be a mechanical engineer.
Impressive videos and productions... Kudos!
Thank you for the great sense of humor that you have and for these shows.
I liked the disappearing-reappearing bit (lathe).
All the best.
Thanks man!
Keep up the good work, Marius! I've really enjoyed all your videos. Thanks for sharing!
Nice find Marius, built like a tank,no plastic.Will probably outlive you if well maintained.Well done you!!
Very talented young man, thanks for the post
Marius you just keep up with the good work you do.
Man i remember buying my first cheap planer/thickness not so long ago..It felt like i have 10 employees already:-)
Great Video. Liked the cabinet build with all the little extra bits. I’m looking at get one of these machines. Hope it works as well as yours. 👍
Awesome score! Looks almost identical to an Inca 570. I did not know Kity made a planer/thicknesser like this.
very clever .. and i love jointer planer but i dont have one.. hope some day i can get one.
Motor is a beast....doesn't even flinch when put the wide side through.
Oh yeah, I love it.
The motor looks a lot like it is actually a re-purposed direct drive table saw motor (note the extra flat construction & how the mounting flange goes away to the side and rear - that's to increase the effective cut depth - and all standard industrial motors have a nameplate). Probably leaning more towards the 4 kW (5 1/2 HP) mark. Very nice setup!
Marius you are legit! I love watching your videos. keep up the good work
Schönes Ding! Ich hab 'ne alte Elektra Beckum Kombi mit integriertem Fahrgestell und bin damit auch super zufrieden.
You will have great times with that machine. They were made in France, most of them were made on the simple idea to use one single motor to power many machines. They were also manufacturing bigger machines with their own motor. I own a 20 yo table saw of this brand (a Kity 619) and a planer/jointer Kity 637. Both a awesome machine very reliable. I bought my saw for 400€ with 6 blades (up to 270/300mm blades just work fine), a rear outfeed table, a side table to rip up to 1000m wide sheets, and a cross cut sled with a 1200mm bar. The planer is quite similar, the tables are 260mm wide, 1200mm long, and can joint up to 250mm. I add a digital scale on it to ease reading the thickness I'm aiming for. Enjoy.
Look on Ebay to fing in UK very low priced jointer blades, I found a pair of 260mm knives for around 20€. A french e shop may also help you to find parts for these old ladies..
What a cute little machine it's a lot like the Inca jointer we see out west.Perfect size for a small space.
I'm jealous. That's a really nice looking machine!
This kid have great skills. Congrats
You are a lucky guy to have new planner
Awww! It felt so good to see what amazing stuff you could do with the same crappy machine I have :(
Congratulations on the new one!
Very nice build !
Cheers from Canada
nice purchase. Looks like new.
Should serve your needs well. Congratulations and nice re engineering!
I bought an inca machine, similar. The stand is 2x4’s screwed together and it weeble wobbles like crazy. Your stand looks way more solid. I think I’ll copy that.
Oh, dear, now there's going to be a run on eBay and elsewhere to find and snap up those old Kity 636 machines. I can kiss goodbye any chance of snagging one cheap. Marius, you should do commercials because now you've made me (and others, no doubt) want to buy one of those.
Klasse Video! Viele gute Ideen und Anregungen! Ich mag besonders den Holzschraubenschlüssel!
My old school had a big Kity planer/Jointer, it sounded like this: MMMMWMMMMMMM
I loved that sound :)
Heck of a find! AND at what seems to me to be a great price.
Well done, young man!!
Hallo Marius, deine ´Kity 636´ würde bei mir ein schönes Zuhause finden, nur mal so in den Raum hinein gerufen :-) Danke für dein(e) Video(s) & bleib´ gesund !
The earlier comment echo my sentiments precisely. My thanks to you....
That's a great looking machine. I would never have the confidence to drop 400 euro on a secondhand purchase off ebay in case it turned out to be a dud.
I have the modern equivalent built in china but it still works well. Try not to lift it by the tables though. I made a set of handles for mine with two long wooden 'bars' that were screwed into the main body where the tables attach. You can then do the equivalent lift but without stressing the tables.
Beaucoup d'idées,joli travail bravo 🛠😉
Thanks. I just bought a Kity K5 BestCombi, mostly for the planer/thicknesser, so now i know what to expect. Couldn't find many videos in English.
And thank goodness for frame at 11 mins 19 seconds as I was struggling to rebuild the guard assembly.
Nice machine, Exactly what I need!
Impressive good machine built to last
Super Maschine! Nur in Europa! nicht einfach hier in Argentina so eine schöne Maschine in guter zustand zu finden! Gratuliere! Schauts nagelneu aus!!!! Griaß di! Fritz aus Arg.
just bought a Kity 636 £50 or 60 Euro, working wish it had some of the add on bits but its great for the job I have was worried I might not get a manual for it but your Video tells me all I need to know. I like to comment it its Green and heavy its good!
Ohh! A Kity 636 in Germany?! (fun fact: Kity is now owned by Scheppach)
Such a lovely machine, it would break my heart if I had to sell mine...
That motor is huge! :o It must be twice the weight of the 636! lol
Nice Marius, love your videos!!
Now I feel bad, I just bought similar jointer you've had before getting a new one. Well...I'll wait for more subs then :)
Thanks for another awesome video Marius!
Looking up Kity 636 I found mention of it as a current model in a 1992 issue of American Woodworker. Your machine's styling looks older to me than that, but looks on industrial grade machines aren't a big concern to manufacturers, so don't give that much weight.
Nice machine, sweet build. Looks sharp.
cool video
I have the same machine, mine also has a horizontal drill/panel saw and molder that you can activate by changing belts (they are separate machines mounted on a table with only one motor).
She works really great, it's nice to see that there are more people who have this brand.
I believe it’s a brand from the Scheppach group.
How well does the molder perform? That's the only other machine that could be useful in my shop (once it's big enough to allow for that)
It performs pretty well for such small one because it has a 1.5hp motor(3 HP in your case) the downside is that is only has a 15mm (or 16mm I can check that for you) but with the right spacing rings I use molders that need a shaft size up to 30mm. it has a really nice adjusting system for the molder height.one other great feature is
that is has a slot in the table to use the sled from a table saw, so you can cut counter profiled tenons. If you want to I can take some pictures during the weekend, or if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
bart b hi m8 I have just bought same thing.and have to put it all back together due to transportation lol .You have to twist the belt to operate boulder don't you.?
ممتاز عقليه ممتازه ولها كل تقدير واحترام ونرجو المزيد والمزيد من الفديوهات المفيده فى صيانت المكينات النجاره
ja die alten Maschinen sind Gold Wert und auch gleich hier und da eine Verbesserung gebaut
echt klasse
Beautiful motor.
Your “new” planer/jointer appears very much reminiscent of the old-and discontinued-Swiss Inca tools. They were well engineered. There appears to some subtle and not so subtle differences. After some for 40 years I sold the Inca tools and bought a Felder 531 Pro. Excellent combo tool, but there are times that I miss the Inca tools. Well made, light and easy to move around the shop-and the country.
Hello! The company that made this was bought by Scheppah. I think everyone has seen what "good quality" tools makes this company! Also in Germany another company, Elektra Bekum, that made stuff like this planner was bought by Metabo and the same happend. I dont think you could buy machines like this at hobby level. Now sheet metal and plastic is cheaper , lighter and easier to produce. And also the chinese only have to change the color or the stickers on them.
Wie immer! Lustig, einfallsreich und sympatisch, Technik at it's best! Danke
Vielen Dank
Beautiful work. Well done! Please get some proper push blocks for passing boards over the jointer head. You have a long future in wood working and need your hands intact.
Picked up a complete Kity 636 for 300 euro's were i was very very lucky! It also has the original frame under it. It was from the son of the 1e owner :) eager to get it to use but first have to fit some weels under it :)
kity is good planer, i had that exact planer
Lovely machine! 👍
great sense of humour!
Way cool machine!! Your videos are awesome!!
Increíble máquina, enhorabuena, saludos desde España
Good thing you had wheels on that lathe stand :)
Parabéns suas máquinas são lindas
Well done ! And, as French, I'm happy to see a French Kity working out of France !
I've just bought the same machine (but not in the same shape) and I'm interested by the support machine table : could you give us main sizes ? Thank you .
François
how do you have the time and patience for setting up a machine. very impressive tune up
Really good video Marius! Szacun
thank you now i know what you've been up to
Looks very similar to the old Inca 570. Built like a Swiss watch.
You are so brilliant I feel dumb when I watch your videos. :P
Thank you for the interesting video !
your english is improving noticably.
Great video.
Watched the Video twice xD. Now i want to resurect my kity. Surprisingly precise, that little beast. I have the original Motor but its not that powerful, sadly.
Nice machine.
Excellent! My old 636 has started to not want to feed the timber while thicknessing, can you suggest what I need to look at? Thanks.
Nice work
I have an Inca jointer/planer that is amazingly similar to yours
i thought i was a small machine when i saw the picture, but the size in the video surprised me.
Looks great
nice job
thanks for sharing
Very nice machine! Seems better than previous one much more.
Oh you have no idea, it's a dream compared to my previous one
I agree! I like it more and more after watching again.
Eine sehr schöne Maschine hast du da! Sehr kompakt und trotzdem sehr kräftig! Ich nutzte die gleiche Maschine wie du zuvor hattest. Die ist wirklich nicht der Hit, demnach kann ich den Wechsel sehr gut nachvollziehen 😄
Nicht der Hit, das ist aber noch sehr hübsch beschrieben :)
5:14 9/10 form
Hey the official Kitty motor's only go up to 2 horse power, it feels like more due to it being three phase motor's wich have way more torque, compared to single phase motors. Great Little machine I just bought a combination Table with the 635 included.
you can adjust the guard spring force by turning the screw where the spring is
only to a certain degree, and I'm already over that
Your old jointer/planer looked like something out of a Little Tykes toy set, but this newer one looks like a great option if someone is short on space! Good width, too (25 cm = 10")! I think an 8" is the biggest I've seen with a benchtop model before I saw this one! In fact, this is probably as good of a benchtop model as I've seen...most of the other ones I've seen look like buyer's traps: cheap to buy but ultimately a waste of money.
Kitty is well known manufacturer.
Definitely it's better than woodstar.
Hope ut serve you well.
Cabanaz I wouldn't buy it for my shop that's 100% I have al SCM mashines. But for his situation (lack of space) is quite upgrade.
I have one of these in a single phase configuration - I think it is 1.1kW motor. It did not have all the dust collection parts but I made my own. It is on its original stand. It is a great machine and I will implement some of your mods to improve my one.
I just found a set of 4 Kity machines on the original table an are thinking about buying an extra motor so i don't have to change belts >> Do you think 1.1 kw is big enough for the planer or should i go for a bigger one ? ( the machine is not mounted yet so i have no idea )
Eric Koster i find my planner works well with the 1ph motor that is of that rating i think. It depends on the amount of material you are removing at a time which is a cross section of thickness x width of piece. I've run beech and cherry through mine that were the whole opening width taking about 0.2mm at a time but anymore would slow the motor. Running spruce however i could take nearer half a mil at a time at full width. Having not had a machine previous I've nothing to compare it to.
Okay Thanks for your reply , since now is the time I can make a choice I think I will go for something a little bigger
Hi Marius, you've got a fantastic channel going. It's quite a big part of what has gotten me into woodworking in recent months. Along the way, I've picked up a few of the required machines (table saw, drill press, band saw) including a Kity 636 Jointer Planer. I've stripped it completely, cleaned it and refurbished it back to its former glory, and plan on making some of the additions you've devised (quite ingeniously). One issue I'm having though is getting the in and outfeed tables parallel. I was wondering if you have any references or advice on this issue? Many thanks,
Simon
Hallo Marius, klasse Video!
Bin nun auch an eine 635 gekommen. Leider mit Motor auf der Seite.
Angefixt von deinen Baukünsten will ich den Motor auch gerne unter die Maschine "verbannen"...
Könntest Du mir bitte mitteilen wo man den größeren Flachriemen bekommt? Müsste so 1000mm lang sein, oder?
Beste Grüße
Wolfgang
wow shipping must have been crazy
Hello Mr. Hornberger! Great video and ingenious hacks and solutions ! I wanted to ask if you could recommend a similar machine for beginner woodworker. Nothing fancy, just something functional and budget friendly. I'll be following your channel for sure. Subscribed. Cheers!
Hi. It's amazing all the staff that you do! I bought a Kity 5 sistem last year and I want to build the same (brilliant) table. Can you help me with some plans? Thank you!
nice ebay find and nice job.