SP-404 MK2 / Tips on making beats that AREN’T lofi hip hop/boom bap
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- SP-404 MK2 / Tips on making beats that AREN’T lofi hip hop/boom bap
I love lofi + boom bap beats but over the years i've seen a recurring theme in the community; people are getting bored. Here's some tips on producing beats that are in a different territory. Freshen up!
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CONTENT OF THE VIDEO:
0:00 Hello / what this video is about
1:18 House/Throwback
5:37 (Acid) Tekno
8:29 Synthwave
10:41 Reggae
10:58 Sync song lyrics with Instagram stories // DistroKid
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No thanks poof
I don’t do lo-if hip hop , I make movie theme tunes to films that don’t exist and sound tracks on my MPC , I’ve seen people make metal and even country music on one , it’s up to you , these instruments were supposed to give creative freedom not limit you to one genre
I agree 100%
agree, gonna get one soon
Liam Killen The reason you were only able to pitch up to +7 was because you had vinyl mode on. When vinyl mode is off (Hold Shift and turn Value Knob to turn Yes/NO or ON/OFF) you are able to pitch from -12 to +12. Pg 50 of fw2.0 manual. Hope this helps.
Oh! Thank you for this!
So it seems that you keep your promises.. been looking forward to this one 👏👏
I try my best! Hope it helps
Thank you for this, subbed! Have wanted to buy this device but wasn't sure it could do what I needed.
I appreciate you! :-) Glad to help you out.
Great video as always .
Thank you! 🍻
biggups for pointing out the main distinguishing feature between the genres being the rhythm. ain't all about learning gear, gotta understand the music too
that's for sure the most important thing.
I really enjoyed this, THANK YOU!
Thanks Johnny! Glad to help 😊
Great video 🙏🏻
Thanks for watching 😊
lmao when i saw the video title my neighbors could hear me laugh XD
i love lofi, it's what got me into sampling, but excited to see content about non-lofi! thanks!
also the mk2 is soooooo much more powerful than the 404sx, need to pick one up to combine with mpc live 2
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How awesome and inspiring to get with this baby
It’s very much both of those things! 😊
I got mine no to long ago and been enjoying it
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Asides from future live performance, THIS is the kind of beats I really wanna do with it. I plan to use it for slower, nasty beats too, but this is gonna make a nice sketch pad for uptempo biz. Mine is arriving this week, and I cannot wait to play with it. Thanks for doing it different!
Exciting newwwsss!!! Glad that people are finally receiving
Can WE hear ?
@@laurentbriet9159 I just began learning how to use it, within the last two weeks, as summer’s been crazy busy and I had to put learning it on hold. But glad I wanted because the 2.0 update is really nice to have. Gonna take some time to pull it together, but will do!
Fantastic !! .. that you continue to dissect all the available apps out there .. doing so much of the grunt work... as you share and explain through your own exploration all you have come to learn ...then pass it along to your followers ... thank you .. and a big shout out to you ! ...
Thank you!
I’m thankful for your mk2 content. Hoping my unit arrives in May. 😔
Hang in there!
Ace! Thanks Liam. Now that I have a unit the world should be my lobster
Do you mean your oyster? lol
@@LiamKillen haha - ok so the phrase doesn't travel over the water to the US. I can't remember where it originated but I think it was a comedy sketch show from decades ago. It's widely used here. Cheers. Lee
I deal with the same thing having an MPC 2000XL; mostly everyone uses them for beats while I make electronic music with mine
I’m sure it’s great for that too!
beats can be eletronic music.. i mean you must know this like most trap music is eletronic music for example
I am a 60 year old man who very late in life decided I want to learn electronic music production and even want to do live gigs. I have been a guitarist my entire life and also play MIDI guitar so not a total newbie to technology but basically a beginner when it comes to creating electronic music. I am putting together a home studio together and have enough money to buy a few pieces of gear in this price range, I have a Roland TR08s, TB-03 & Sh-01a. Also own a Moog Sub 37 I bought 7 years ago when I wanteds to learn to play keys with no interstes in electronic music production at all. I just wanted to sound like Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman and blaze some pentatonix up and down the keyboard. I played the keys 99% of time never once using arpeggiator, sequencer etc. Now I find out it's a dope piece of gear for creating electronic music so now need to learn how to play the technology as much as the music theory. I am buying gear while I have the funds to do so and like small pieces of gear that could potentially be used in a live show. I use Ableton as my DAW, I have seen few setups on YT where the person has the TR-8s, MC-707 and the SP-404 and the stuff they were doing was epic. I already have the TR-8S so thinking this should be my next purchase even though I fully do not understand exactly how it works or why it's needed. Just too many people swearing up and down that this is their favorite piece of gear and an epic update to its predecessor. Just wondering your thoughts if this is a good investment knowing I am buying a piece of gear I truly do not understand how to use or setup in a workflow. But my intuition tells me if I keep watching YT videos the lightbulb will one day go on and I will go from uncertainty to gratitude for making this purchase. Plus I love small pieces of gear that do so much especially if it can also be used in a live setup once you understand the workflow. I would get a small rack for this, the TR-8s and MC 707 setup so for live gigs I would create live grooves with the Roland gear and than play guitar over the grooves I play so its both live guitar and electronic music. Real simple setup. Maybe add a delay & looper but don't need much more. Love to know your thought or any of your followers as I am ready to pull plug on this unit. Yes...GAS is a real mental illness and I got it bad. But I am an old fucker so if not now when? Also any other gear you can think off. I did all the Roland boutique synths and you can find them used for $300. Sorry for long post and thanks for any advice🙏
If you’ve got the time and patience- pull the trigger!! SP-404 mk 2 is in my opinion a choice sampler in 2022 + beyond. They keep dropping updates and the foundation of the instrument is also very solid.
I see this comment is pretty old but i fell into a similar category as you as a drummer/guitarist. I bought one of these and love it. Best gear as others have said. The sp404 can help you build full tracks with drums, bass, keys, guitar, etc. anything you “sample” (record) onto the SP can be used to build full songs of whatever genre you wish. Once you have all your samples recorded, arrange them in the pattern arranger and make full songs. It also has 35 built in effects with all the classics like reverb delay chorus phaser etc. I use mine to build backing tracks that I can jam over with my live instruments
I played guitar for like 15-20 years and bass and drums to a lesser degree. I've owned a few various groovebox/drum machine type things. Eventually I got an Elektron Syntakt and I really like working with it. I could imagine you may like working with a Digitakt. I feel like Elektron's -takt boxes filled my want to make electronic production feel more like playing physical instruments vs working in a daw. They're pricey but once I got it and took a few days to learn it I realized why ppl love the -takt devices so much. Something to consider if you're exploring options.
i definitely think the methods of chopping due to limitations of gear etc are kinda ignored in *some* genres or scenes. so thank you for this.
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Just pair it with a simple synth (got the Roland S-1) and you got a powerful sequenzer/drummachine and synth combo that can sound very true to these genres. I'm just starting out, but fucking around and create simple, dark techno beats is my unexpected favorite jam with this.
Oh yeah it pairs REAL nice with the S-1.
Nice shirt!
Why thank u 😊
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That first track is so good wtf
hey thank you! :-)
Just realized that was the sample for fancy lol
Got it from splice
i love how you teach. i’ve been looking around for sp 404 mk2 videos because i plan on getting one for myself hopefully soon and have been trying to learn what i can about it, and i’ve been waiting to find someone that goes in depth with the steps they’re taking and explains everything. thanks a lot !! do you have any programs or like a vip subscription so i can learn more about beat making from you ??
I have a Patreon: www.patreon.com/liamkillenmusic
and I actually also give one on one lessons- here's where you can book if you're interested:
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@@LiamKillen perfect ! thanks !!
Fancy sample
Got it from splice
That sample was used on Fancy by Drake and Swizz Beatz… just thought about it
Oh really? Damn
Yup!
Quick question! Do the m1 headphones still alow you to monitor if plugged into the microphone input on the mk2? If not since m1 has 2 jacks, how well does having one in the headphone out put and one in the mic input work? Thanks 🙏🏾
You can def get 2 headphone signals as your mentioning- I haven’t tried the M1s with my 404 yet so I can’t speak on this!
I'm still waiting for my unit. I love making hiphop and house music but my main genre is electro-pop/alt-pop + myself singing with lyrics.
I have big expectations for the mk2 to be an accessory not only to my beatmaking but also my SONGWRITING, which is super important to me.
Making song sketches and recording and chopping up my guitar on the fly (like I would in Ableton) is the sole reason for why I bought my mk2.
I think you’ll really enjoy it!
Possible to hear ?
Should've absolutely gotten an mpc then, the 404 sounds too dingy.
Drake - Fancy sample, nice :)
Yeah I heard Drake used it! It’s from splice!
My pads are not as sensitive as yours. Sometimes it does not even register that I hit a pad at all. Can I adjust the sensitivity of the pads? I think I must mention that I have not yet updated the firmware of my unit.
Try the latest update that might actually help
@@LiamKillen That's why I am not freaking out yet, once I update I can determine if I have a defective unit. Thanx for the speedy response.
Techno Acid 👍
let's go
I haven’t used the sequencer yet. I don’t know why it doesn’t wait for me before counting? Do you know how to fix that?
I’m not sure at this point
Challenge: Do a song with the St Anger drum sample.
You’re the second person who’s mentioned Metallica drums I think we need to make this happen
I guarantee there's some genre out there where the St. Anger drum sound would work. It's just not Thrash.
@@aneveningwithebola2727 not with that attitude 😉
To be fair the only way I can imagine myself enjoying that snare sound is with a lot of bitcrunch
What headphones is he using in this video? If anyone knows please let me know. They look cool and I'd like to maybe look into getting a set for myself....
I'm using the Teenage Engineering M1's- here's a video: th-cam.com/video/QfnQDFBw01I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BELuskFRvo8tq-iC
Would love to hear more reggae, or anything jamaican.
noted!
I have an mpc live 2 and looking to add some hardware. Is the sp404 good in pairing the two or it doesnt make sense? Which is easier to sample sp404 or the mpc?
They totallyyyy make sense- I would run the MPC through the 404 just for its multi FX alone. Highly recommend that sort of set up.
@@LiamKillen thank you
I am interested in the SP-404 MK2 and the Akai MPC Live 2, and trying to decide which to buy. I only have money for one of them. I would like to use in a live set up to playback recorded tracks, use as drum pad to create loops and create full tracks sequencing on stage. I also want to be able to use to create chunks I can put into a daw to create songs I can record and release, plus create my own drum samples. Am I asking too much or will one of these be what I want??? Would love to hear from you, or anyone on this please. Peace.
You can do pretty much everything here with either unit! The only thing is that exporting options on the mk2 are not nearly as strong as MPC units.
@@LiamKillen that's really helpful. Thank you. I was able to get my hands on an mpc and a 404 in a music shop on the weekend, and I wasn't sure about the mpc in the end. I didn't like the feel or workflow. The 404 was so much nicer to use. I think I'll look at a different dawless option in the future but for live, I've already got lots of ideas for if I buy the 404. Keep making great videos!!
I cannot find any skins for the mk2. . . Do you have any suggestions or links please?
Style flip!
What's that House drum kit you using in the first track you demonstrated though?! Can we get these samples anywhere?
Can’t remember exactly but I do have some samples available: samples.liamkillen.com/
@@LiamKillen My G! thanks for this.
More SP404 MK2!! 🤖
I’ve got another one locked and loaded! Coming in a few weeks smile 😊
@@LiamKillen few daez?
The worst part about using TH-cam to learn your gear is all the Lo-Fi and Trance demos you have to endure in the process. Those are literally your only options lol (no offense to fans of those genres) ✌️
there's some truth to that lol
Umru!
He makes great samples !
Excuse my. It's absolutely imperative that you either link me to this video at 5:26 or tell me the song name if you've published it. It's phenomenal sounding.
Thanks! I got that sample from Tracklib! They have a bunch of throwback lofi samples to chop up and make your own! Highly recommended.
*passive aggressive comment* 💛
😂
What kind of headphones are you using?
Teenage engineering m1
1:23 aces sample lol
My guy
No limit to what you "creatively"can do with this 'lil machine when it comes to styles...
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The War On Drugs uses two SP404-SXs in addition to their drummer. Full on heartland rock - that’s what actually inspired me to get a 404.
Can you save the whole track in one pad after all the work you sis getting the samples?
Yes u can
What makes it lo fi it’s a 16bit sampler? It’s clean as hell
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How to not do lofi: Use different sounds and BE CREATIVE
It’s really all about rhythms and different samples…that’s IT
LOL
Damn right man. I'm so surprised that many SP beats sound alike
Is there a shift function or something that would allow me to raise and lower volumes of a pad in a live setting without having to choose the pad and causing it to retrigger?
I was also thinking about incorporating a midi controller with an encoder, assigned to a designated pad to bring in melodies. Raising and lowering the volume on the fly. I haven't found anything on that. Any info in that would be awesome.
To my knowledge that’s not possible.
@@LiamKillen Does it maybe work to press and hold remain and select a pad?
I used this sample
Dope!
@@LiamKillen ty Liam
Hi and where did you get your cover from?
Hey! Styleflip
@@LiamKillen Thanks Liam 🤸👍
Gm can used this on android to load beat to ig Facebook etc
Oh cool!
If you own a 404mk2 and you ask this question you shouldn't own a 404mk2
or any sampler at this point 🤔
I'm just jealous of 404mk2 owners
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Thank you: NOT boom-bap! ♥️♥️♥️
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@@LiamKillen no offense to it, but yeah TH-cam seems to be flooded with it (I get it, it's popular!), just refreshing to see here that something else is being styled!
Nice one mate!
anyone know what headphones he uses?
Teenage Engineering M1's- here's a video on them: th-cam.com/video/QfnQDFBw01I/w-d-xo.html
As a boom baper myself.
I’m not sure if I’m okay with this, I mean of course it works but I’m just not willing to emotionally accept it yet.
Take your time my friend…boom nap’s still dope
I'm thinking either this or the MPC one, I'm torn. Some one help me?
This video will help ya fer sher: th-cam.com/video/w7N_EX37qds/w-d-xo.html
Get both 😂 I have an MPC One and just got an SP a couple months ago and it feels like the perfect combo. Did you end up getting anything?
Wait there's music genres other than lo-fi?
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It’s actually pronounced “low-fee” now
I have literally zero interest in lofi hiphop and have been looking at getting one as a sort of super-versatle drum machine/general performance tool.
A related thought that always occurs is that modern metal bands catch heat for playing to backing tracks for all their non-guitary instruments and they always defend it by saying words to the effect of they want to still have all the other stuff going on - and I always wonder why the hell they don't just have a band member playing a sampler. That way it's genuinely live and not just glorified karaoke and they still get to have all their other instrumental tracks.
Thanks for your take on this! :-)
Good video. I'm kinda bored of all the lofi beats. Often sound like they're all made by the same dude.
Haha I get that
In what world did that sound anything like reggae??? Sounded like lofi beafs
Brrrrrrrap bap!!
check out jpegmafia and danny brown’s new album to hear fresh stuff from an sp
Word thanks for the reference!
There's no such thing as old school lofi hip-hop. It's an entirely contrived genre which mimics and to some extent caricatures the feel of several 1990s hip-hop producers (Madlib, Prince Paul, Lord Finesse, Pete Rock, etc), most of which remain uncredited in lofi circles in favour of unreasonable adoration of deceased producers like J Dilla and Nujabes.
The genre is so detached from its roots that it feels more like cultural appropriation than a continuation of tradition.
This "traditional approach" is not it- i'm sure that all of the genres / artists that you just mentioned are also "detached" from some other genre that someone's being traditional about.
If there are millions of people who listen to / characterize a genre by a name- it exists IMO. My 2 cents.
'tf is boombap?
Lol!