A silly theory i came up with rn is that Clancy and Nico are multiple personalities fighting over Tyler’s body, I’m not incredibly versed on the lore so let me know if this is impossible ( I don’t accept think this but that’d be pretty cool) This’d also explain blurryface Tyler!
I've got a friend who's literally JUST NOW beginning his journey into the rabbit hole that is the T. Ø. P. Lore, and he very much agrees that Nico is ACTUALLY Tyler as well as Clancy...... We've slightly battled over the notion, bc as a long time cliqué member myself, I never even considered the notion, plus I'm stubborn..... But, he may just be on to something with this idea.
this would actually make a lot of sense and they have been hinting at it through the mvs!! if clancy is the heir of blurryface and he’s going to fight his “dad”, that would mean he would be the new ruler of dema, that is if he won. he could turn dema into a positive place instead of negative. i’m loving this theory lmao
I was all like "i can't find any lore connections for this" and you went and found them ALL. 🤣 Thank you for taking the time to take my request!! It makes a lot more sense when you explain it - and it's SO intriguing! The implications of Clancy being tied to Nico like that are like...whoa. It makes it even sadder and tougher of a situation for him because he has to come back and take Nico on. And the abuse of it all 😭 Poor Clancy! Our boy is going THROUGH it. Thank goodness he has Torchbearer ❤ Thanks again, you are so GROOVY!!! 😆🤌🏼
this was something floating around in the back of my head for awhile now lol. but thank you for reminding me about it so i could properly dive into it. i’m glad you enjoyed it!
I think one of my favorite theories even thought it had holes is the idea that Nico and blurryface are different people. This idea started from the title is Nico and the Niners showing that there are 10 bishops instead of 9.
Yes! Exactly Clancy is the 10th bishop and he left so there was 9 then keons died so there was 8 he refers to himself As blurryface because he can't identify his identity and who he truly is. And not Nico because this adds to the cyclical effect it has on the story and his and their lives and how it leaves story to be told. That's why he randomly gets depressed and goes back to dema (responsibilities) and why he spasms because it's his changing personalities and him mentally going back and forth to different people And planes. He says he's being seized but he genuinely believes this as a coping mechanism because he can't accept the reality of the truth and wants to be the hero but whenever he realizes he's the villain he goes back to destroying it. It's a story between being yourself losing yourself going back home wanting to leave kissing your home leaving for good and then wanting to destroy the home because you feel how evil it is and realizing why you wanted to leave to begin with
Also i think your on the right track because at rhe end of Levitating when Nico is dragging him back., the look on his face is like maybe this is my destiny.
Ahhhhh is Clancy blurryface’s son.. great question, I’ve debated son, I’ve debated a sibling, but also sometimes I think it’s him just another personality
In fact, I think it makes sense, especially when Tyler gives us absolute freedom in various interpretations of lyrics and meanings. But I still have a nagging moment - are Tyler and Clancy different people? As we know, the emails mention a moment from jumpsuit where Clancy seems to be watching events from the sidelines. And in the following letters, there is a feeling that Tyler has taken Clancy's place (captured his body? Or maybe he accepted his position). And there is also a theory that Tyler's bishop is Nico, and Clancy's is Keons.. I'm starting to lose my mind.😂
okay so this is where it gets tricky. tyler and clancy are the same person. but sometimes clancy has out of body experiences. the routines in the night music video shows us this, although it’s been hinted at before. there’s a theory there was another clancy before tyler took his name, but i don’t really buy into that one. even still, that’s a theory floating out there. everything leads back to tyler, since this story takes place in his mind. that’s why he plays so many roles.
@@groovyghostnotes I liked the theory that at the end of paladin, Tyler would open his eyes and see a broken fan and a lamp on the bedroom ceiling (as in self titled). Therefore, yes, after your story, I am more convinced that it is most likely one person. It's funny that then he plays all the roles in the plot, including the main antagonist. It's like a reference to the fact that all fears lurk in our own head and only we can cope with them
Before video starts: no way. After video: i just dont see it. Its Keons. Jenna is another woman in lore. Keons is from that song. Shes in the video. So equate Keons with Jennas love
keons is from heavydirtysoul, not tear in my heart. “choKE ON the Smoke” tear in my heart’s bishop is Sacarver “She’s A CARVER” aka sally. so jenna and sally have ties to the same thing.
hey! good question, i’m technically not a tøp update account, i only post if i have something of value to add to the conversation. so, i don’t post everything the band does. if you want that kinda thing, i totally suggest checking out JLAndersonMusic, he’s great with the updates. that being said, I’m planning on making a video on it once I get a solid theory on what it could be warning us for.
A silly theory i came up with rn is that Clancy and Nico are multiple personalities fighting over Tyler’s body, I’m not incredibly versed on the lore so let me know if this is impossible ( I don’t accept think this but that’d be pretty cool) This’d also explain blurryface Tyler!
I've got a friend who's literally JUST NOW beginning his journey into the rabbit hole that is the T. Ø. P. Lore, and he very much agrees that Nico is ACTUALLY Tyler as well as Clancy...... We've slightly battled over the notion, bc as a long time cliqué member myself, I never even considered the notion, plus I'm stubborn..... But, he may just be on to something with this idea.
@@roastedscorpiongot any counter theories? Not looking for an argument or anything at all, just seeing if this theory makes sense at all
this would actually make a lot of sense and they have been hinting at it through the mvs!! if clancy is the heir of blurryface and he’s going to fight his “dad”, that would mean he would be the new ruler of dema, that is if he won. he could turn dema into a positive place instead of negative. i’m loving this theory lmao
Okay i'm so confused and intrigued at the same time. I kinda think you could be on to something. The red eyes in routines are still haunting me.
I was all like "i can't find any lore connections for this" and you went and found them ALL. 🤣 Thank you for taking the time to take my request!! It makes a lot more sense when you explain it - and it's SO intriguing! The implications of Clancy being tied to Nico like that are like...whoa. It makes it even sadder and tougher of a situation for him because he has to come back and take Nico on. And the abuse of it all 😭 Poor Clancy! Our boy is going THROUGH it. Thank goodness he has Torchbearer ❤
Thanks again, you are so GROOVY!!! 😆🤌🏼
this was something floating around in the back of my head for awhile now lol. but thank you for reminding me about it so i could properly dive into it. i’m glad you enjoyed it!
"On the ground are banditos, fighting while i find NICO,"
That prodigal son line in Overcompensate makes so much sense inside this theory! Mind blown.
If you search the ‘meaning’ of clancy on google, it is irish (what i believe the boy was at the end of overcompensate) son of the red warrior (bishop)
I think one of my favorite theories even thought it had holes is the idea that Nico and blurryface are different people. This idea started from the title is Nico and the Niners showing that there are 10 bishops instead of 9.
Yes! Exactly Clancy is the 10th bishop and he left so there was 9 then keons died so there was 8 he refers to himself As blurryface because he can't identify his identity and who he truly is. And not Nico because this adds to the cyclical effect it has on the story and his and their lives and how it leaves story to be told. That's why he randomly gets depressed and goes back to dema (responsibilities) and why he spasms because it's his changing personalities and him mentally going back and forth to different people And planes. He says he's being seized but he genuinely believes this as a coping mechanism because he can't accept the reality of the truth and wants to be the hero but whenever he realizes he's the villain he goes back to destroying it. It's a story between being yourself losing yourself going back home wanting to leave kissing your home leaving for good and then wanting to destroy the home because you feel how evil it is and realizing why you wanted to leave to begin with
Also i think your on the right track because at rhe end of Levitating when Nico is dragging him back., the look on his face is like maybe this is my destiny.
I think your in the right track again. Do you think there will be a 2nd album?
i would love for there to be a second album. but, if anything, i’m a EP believer. or perhaps one extra song to give us a conclusive ending.
I still think they are going to do something at the concert. Even though Tyler said they weren't. I'll find out in the 24th in Oakland!😁
love the new pfp
thank ya
Ahhhhh is Clancy blurryface’s son.. great question, I’ve debated son, I’ve debated a sibling, but also sometimes I think it’s him just another personality
i love your videos groovy
thank ya
In fact, I think it makes sense, especially when Tyler gives us absolute freedom in various interpretations of lyrics and meanings. But I still have a nagging moment - are Tyler and Clancy different people? As we know, the emails mention a moment from jumpsuit where Clancy seems to be watching events from the sidelines. And in the following letters, there is a feeling that Tyler has taken Clancy's place (captured his body? Or maybe he accepted his position). And there is also a theory that Tyler's bishop is Nico, and Clancy's is Keons.. I'm starting to lose my mind.😂
okay so this is where it gets tricky. tyler and clancy are the same person. but sometimes clancy has out of body experiences. the routines in the night music video shows us this, although it’s been hinted at before.
there’s a theory there was another clancy before tyler took his name, but i don’t really buy into that one. even still, that’s a theory floating out there.
everything leads back to tyler, since this story takes place in his mind. that’s why he plays so many roles.
@@groovyghostnotes I liked the theory that at the end of paladin, Tyler would open his eyes and see a broken fan and a lamp on the bedroom ceiling (as in self titled). Therefore, yes, after your story, I am more convinced that it is most likely one person. It's funny that then he plays all the roles in the plot, including the main antagonist. It's like a reference to the fact that all fears lurk in our own head and only we can cope with them
Poor Tyler and his altered ego 😢
Wow fastest I’ve ever been here 13 seconds lol
13 is my fav number too
@@groovyghostnotes great number
... Intreaguing!!!
Is there anything to say about the Simone Weil theory’s, connection with Lore?
yeah, it’s definitely worth looking into. it definitely deserves a video at some point. i just gotta gather all the info on it.
Cool :)
This is a fun and interesting theory but I can't get behind it. Speculation is fun tho!!
Before video starts: no way.
After video: i just dont see it. Its Keons. Jenna is another woman in lore. Keons is from that song. Shes in the video. So equate Keons with Jennas love
keons is from heavydirtysoul, not tear in my heart.
“choKE ON the Smoke”
tear in my heart’s bishop is Sacarver “She’s A CARVER” aka sally. so jenna and sally have ties to the same thing.
8:18 ha me too lol
i actually have a theory that clancy and keons are the same person if you would like to know what i think
Why haven't you done a video on the new Blurryface tweet yet?
hey! good question, i’m technically not a tøp update account, i only post if i have something of value to add to the conversation. so, i don’t post everything the band does. if you want that kinda thing, i totally suggest checking out JLAndersonMusic, he’s great with the updates.
that being said, I’m planning on making a video on it once I get a solid theory on what it could be warning us for.