I really enjoyed seeing those images of pre-WWII Portsmouth. 20 years after WWI and 20 years before I trod those same streets as a teenager. So many things still the same and so many gone from the Blitz. The Camber. Portchester Castle. The Royal Garrison Church. Southsea. Very enjoyable viewing.
Thank you. A few years before I was born but some things have not changed much. The rock gardens look very familiar and I can remember when the fountains were working and that at Speakers Corner there was the Guiness Clock for a while. A pity they did not rebuild the Guildhall clock tower as of the original. I was a schoolboy in the Portsmouth Youth Orchestra when the new Guildhall reopened and we performed on stage at the ceremony. I like to say, in a "stage whisper" that I was in the orchestra that did the first orchestral performance on that stage. I hated it when they built those ugly offices around the Guildhall. Before, you could see the Guildhall Square as you walked south down Commercial Road. Now it is a hidden gem. I wish they would demolish them! I am told most of the offices there are unused anyway.
I had some PIMCO tokens as a kid and I can remember that platform near South Parade Pier- you could take a little boat up to Southampton- and see the huge ocean liners- and we did. Crossley Condor bus at 3-44, one survived as a breakdown wagon- cut down to one deck- it made a loud grinding sound as it chugged along. The camera just has to record the Co-op ad on that bus! The Co-op was a very Big Deal in Portsmouth and opened one of Britain's first supermarkets in 1948. Locksway Road- the old canal entrance and the chalets nearby and on down to the Glory Hole and Langstone Harbour which I used to gaze out over- as I sat bored in school. The Garrison Church- before it was bombed and Old Portsmouth including the George Hotel- destroyed by the bombing.
PIMCO (The Portsea Island Mutual Co-operative Society) made a number of these brilliant actuality films during the 1930s. They're a wonderful record of times long gone by, reflecting social tastes, fashions and most precious of all, everyday life. As a transport nut I particularly loved the scenes of a Portsmouth Corporation double deck Crossley/English Electric bus (the first diesel buses delivered to the Corporation in 1932) at 3:37 and the AEC/Cravens trolleybus at 6:19, the beautiful condition of these reflecting a time of great civic pride. The white roofs predated the war, during which they gained grey camouflaged roofs which I believe they retained for some time thereafter? Great upload!
Another organisation with a long name was the Portsea Island Gas, Light and Coke Company, whose offices were on the corner of King Henry Street, which might now be the Isambard Kingdom Brunel pub.The bus was a Crossley Condor, of whiich a cut back chassis with breakdown body still exists. White bus roofs came back around 1962, but the trolleybuses neer did. To be honest, it was impractical, since the trolley booms made a mess of the roofs in wet weather. Where was the high water fountain at 5:33?
I think you're right. In Germany and Poland they repaired their cities brick by brick but unfortunately our town planners were too arrogant and thought they knew better so I suppose we've now got the towns and cities we deserve.
It's difficult to know. PIMCO were clearly interested in the nicer areas - not much of Landport, for example. You could make a similar video now - focus on the Sally Port and Portchester Castle as in this video, discreet shots of Victoria Park maybe, or the Spinnaker Tower- and idealise contemporary Portsmouth as this does the 1937 area. Fascinating to see the museum and the Guildhall as was. Personally it's a little disappointing that rougher or commercial areas such as Charlotte Street were not filmed, as our family butcher business there was also obliterated on that same night as the Guildhall was hit and the George Hotel was lost on 10.1.1941, but, as I say, that would not be on the PIMCO agenda.
Excellent film. The lingering shots give you time to really look at what’s there. My mum and dad would have been 17 or 18, depending on when these images were filmed, both born and raised in Pompey.
Interesting to see the George hotel, where Nelson spent his last night on land. It was destroyed in an air raid on the night of 10th January 1941. The same night the guildhall changed forever.
great footage....when you think of the open space, bowling greens racecourse and tennis courts in Paulsgrove, all pre bombed areas. You need a tin opener to move around Pompey now..
@@cousinbebop Totalitarianism has and will always raise its ugly head. The measure by which we judge ourselves isn't through the brief moments when dictators seize power but how inevitably we treat one another. Today's generation I would argue are self-obsessed, shallow, selfish and mannerless. They know the words but not the music. If you call that 'progress' I would have difficulty understand on what level.
Would PIMCO have filmed "ill mannered" people though? This was a naval town, with all that implies. There was also considerable poverty and squalor, and parts of the city where the police would only patrol in pairs.
This was my parents’ Portsmouth. Mine was from 1947 to 1965 and it was a crap place to grow up. The labour governments or councils destroyed a lot of the remaining old houses and put up the absolute worst high rises. Later it improved and has become one of the most beautiful cities with fabulous surrounding areas. I was so disappointed to visit 2 weeks ago after 5 years to see yet more disgusting high rises in the city to house overseas students. What a travesty or maybe tragedy for Portsmouth.
No, the Portsmouth city in England, that the Portsmouth in Virginia USA was named after. Established around 1000+ years before. I do want to visit the Portsmouths in USA some time but it will be weird having places like Norfolk, Manchester and Southampton in all the "wrong" places relative to Portsmouth ;)
Portsmouth is miles better now, the more racial diversity in a society or municipality,,the better, no matter what the brexit gammon might tell you. Frankly, Portsmouth in the 1930s was hideously white 👎🏿
Crazy how people can see only race in whatever they look at, not how clean orderly and well kept this city used to be, I'm sure it wasn't so great everywhere but nice to see some older monuments in a different light, we are sorry that our country was mainly white in theese times but that's what they were different times not better not worse just different
I really enjoyed seeing those images of pre-WWII Portsmouth. 20 years after WWI and 20 years before I trod those same streets as a teenager. So many things still the same and so many gone from the Blitz. The Camber. Portchester Castle. The Royal Garrison Church. Southsea. Very enjoyable viewing.
Thank you. A few years before I was born but some things have not changed much. The rock gardens look very familiar and I can remember when the fountains were working and that at Speakers Corner there was the Guiness Clock for a while. A pity they did not rebuild the Guildhall clock tower as of the original. I was a schoolboy in the Portsmouth Youth Orchestra when the new Guildhall reopened and we performed on stage at the ceremony. I like to say, in a "stage whisper" that I was in the orchestra that did the first orchestral performance on that stage. I hated it when they built those ugly offices around the Guildhall. Before, you could see the Guildhall Square as you walked south down Commercial Road. Now it is a hidden gem. I wish they would demolish them! I am told most of the offices there are unused anyway.
Great footage. Thanks for posting this.
I had some PIMCO tokens as a kid and I can remember that platform near South Parade Pier- you could take a little boat up to Southampton- and see the huge ocean liners- and we did. Crossley Condor bus at 3-44, one survived as a breakdown wagon- cut down to one deck- it made a loud grinding sound as it chugged along. The camera just has to record the Co-op ad on that bus! The Co-op was a very Big Deal in Portsmouth and opened one of Britain's first supermarkets in 1948. Locksway Road- the old canal entrance and the chalets nearby and on down to the Glory Hole and Langstone Harbour which I used to gaze out over- as I sat bored in school. The Garrison Church- before it was bombed and Old Portsmouth including the George Hotel- destroyed by the bombing.
Nice to see the Guildhall in original state before Hitler thought he'd alter it.
Really enjoyed watching this old footage, thank you so much for sharing it.
Loved the rose garden … and cannoe lake…. round the corner from where l lived… 12 wonderful years…. in Festing Grove…. ❤❤❤
PIMCO (The Portsea Island Mutual Co-operative Society) made a number of these brilliant actuality films during the 1930s. They're a wonderful record of times long gone by, reflecting social tastes, fashions and most precious of all, everyday life. As a transport nut I particularly loved the scenes of a Portsmouth Corporation double deck Crossley/English Electric bus (the first diesel buses delivered to the Corporation in 1932) at 3:37 and the AEC/Cravens trolleybus at 6:19, the beautiful condition of these reflecting a time of great civic pride. The white roofs predated the war, during which they gained grey camouflaged roofs which I believe they retained for some time thereafter? Great upload!
Another organisation with a long name was the Portsea Island Gas, Light and Coke Company, whose offices were on the corner of King Henry Street, which might now be the Isambard Kingdom Brunel pub.The bus was a Crossley Condor, of whiich a cut back chassis with breakdown body still exists. White bus roofs came back around 1962, but the trolleybuses neer did. To be honest, it was impractical, since the trolley booms made a mess of the roofs in wet weather. Where was the high water fountain at 5:33?
Very interesting; many thanks for loading. Amazing to see what it was like before the war.
Watching this film I get the impression that Portsmouth really looked so much better back then - seemed to be a pride in the parks and city
I think you're right. In Germany and Poland they repaired their cities brick by brick but unfortunately our town planners were too arrogant and thought they knew better so I suppose we've now got the towns and cities we deserve.
No - It looked worse back then. Everyone was white and there was no racial diversity. Still not enough now!
It's difficult to know. PIMCO were clearly interested in the nicer areas - not much of Landport, for example. You could make a similar video now - focus on the Sally Port and Portchester Castle as in this video, discreet shots of Victoria Park maybe, or the Spinnaker Tower- and idealise contemporary Portsmouth as this does the 1937 area. Fascinating to see the museum and the Guildhall as was.
Personally it's a little disappointing that rougher or commercial areas such as Charlotte Street were not filmed, as our family butcher business there was also obliterated on that same night as the Guildhall was hit and the George Hotel was lost on 10.1.1941, but, as I say, that would not be on the PIMCO agenda.
Loved watching this. Not seen prewar Pompey before. Can’t help think the seafront end of canoe lake looked much better without the toilet block.
Excellent film. The lingering shots give you time to really look at what’s there. My mum and dad would have been 17 or 18, depending on when these images were filmed, both born and raised in Pompey.
Amazing footage of pre war Pompey. Nice lingering shots of places so that you can have a really good look at them.
The very best place to raise a family… my girls loved it … ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for doing this Ben. :-)
David Moore No problem - the more who can see and share it the better.
@@BenWalshy living in Pompey most of my life (. I escaped a few times 😆). This was great to see 🙌🏻
Very interesting. I've lived in Portsmouth for the past 17 years. It's nice to see that some featues have hardly changed.
same amount of time as me i moved from london
Interesting to see the garrison church with its roof on, before the Luftwaffe had it removed.
Interesting to see the George hotel, where Nelson spent his last night on land. It was destroyed in an air raid on the night of 10th January 1941. The same night the guildhall changed forever.
I was born in this year . Very interesting it looks snowy but the rock gardens are lovely wonder what month it is . Enjoyed it very much thanks !
Brilliant thank you
Awesome footage… of an Awesome place ❤❤❤
great video
The traffic at 0:37! Almost the same as today. I was expecting maybe 3 cars.
rock gardens and canoe lake look the same. thanks for the upload
Man thats before that it taken by blitz and thats depressing
Can't work out the last few scenes. Is it Portchester Castle?
Yes.
So chilling to watch this 2022
Paulsgrove and Wymering have disappeared......? That's means I'm not born?
Awesome
old portsmouth is interesting
4:08 this is porsmouth & Southsea.
Is that really 1937
Should there be sound? I hear nothing
great footage....when you think of the open space, bowling greens racecourse and tennis courts in Paulsgrove, all pre bombed areas. You need a tin opener to move around Pompey now..
Notice how orderly everything is? How well mannered people are? Now compare these images with today. Progress is just a state of mind.
This is literally between 2 of the most brutal wars in human history.
@@cousinbebop Totalitarianism has and will always raise its ugly head. The measure by which we judge ourselves isn't through the brief moments when dictators seize power but how inevitably we treat one another. Today's generation I would argue are self-obsessed, shallow, selfish and mannerless. They know the words but not the music.
If you call that 'progress' I would have difficulty understand on what level.
I agree, I'm a 24 year old born and bred in pompey and have no doubts society looked better in most ways compared to today.
@@user-ho4ns5te8b Yep Pompey myself too.
watcha mush..
Would PIMCO have filmed "ill mannered" people though?
This was a naval town, with all that implies. There was also considerable poverty and squalor, and parts of the city where the police would only patrol in pairs.
Beautiful, when England still existed.
We've lost so much since then.
@@nickmiller76an empire?
@@BroonParkerAn entire culture lost. The empire is nothing.
A place for everyone.
revisited my home City Pompey recently, did not recognise it, Commercial Rd is more like the middle east ...
Better stay away then?
all buildings were pre reset
Thank God you didn’t wreck it with loud, inappropriate, infuriatingly sickening noises, referred to as ‘music’.
This was my parents’ Portsmouth. Mine was from 1947 to 1965 and it was a crap place to grow up. The labour governments or councils destroyed a lot of the remaining old houses and put up the absolute worst high rises. Later it improved and has become one of the most beautiful cities with fabulous surrounding areas. I was so disappointed to visit 2 weeks ago after 5 years to see yet more disgusting high rises in the city to house overseas students. What a travesty or maybe tragedy for Portsmouth.
Not Portsmouth in Hampton Roads?
No, the Portsmouth city in England, that the Portsmouth in Virginia USA was named after. Established around 1000+ years before. I do want to visit the Portsmouths in USA some time but it will be weird having places like Norfolk, Manchester and Southampton in all the "wrong" places relative to Portsmouth ;)
These footages are amazing! Im the video editor of Portsmouth News. Is there any chance we can get hold of these footages and contact you for a chat?
@@shipuphotography5594 wouldn't this be too newsworthy for what's left of the News?
everyone in this film are dead now
How do you work that out
not if they were say one at the time, possibly
I `m still going. I was looking for myself on the sea shore, I have some photo`s of that tume, paddling in the water with my Nan and Gramp.
Portsmouth is miles better now, the more racial diversity in a society or municipality,,the better, no matter what the brexit gammon might tell you. Frankly, Portsmouth in the 1930s was hideously white 👎🏿
architecturally..Portsmouth is awful now...heaving mass of skyscrapers
Crazy how people can see only race in whatever they look at, not how clean orderly and well kept this city used to be, I'm sure it wasn't so great everywhere but nice to see some older monuments in a different light, we are sorry that our country was mainly white in theese times but that's what they were different times not better not worse just different
You look hideously fat
pathetic statement really..it's like saying Nigeria was hideously black in the 1930s
Well there wasn't many obese people back then:)
Brilliant thank you