My wife and I are publishing a book later this year called “Consciousness in a Nutshell.” If you really want your mind blown, you might want to check out our explanation of consciousness. In an interview recently, I told the interviewer that The Immortality Key was like the epilogue to our book as it further props up the idea of consciousness we espouse. It would seem as if Brian and I were visited by the same genius. Using ‘genius’ in the ancient Greek sense of the word, of course.
This is an outstanding conversation. This was really inciteful and illuminating. Many of the points you touch on dovetail well into some of the concepts that I've been considering this year (plenty of time for meditation, study and reflection). Thank you so much for being "brave" enough to bring it to us. The kids discount "woo woo" as something negative, to their detriment, I believe. I think the older you get and the more you study, the more you begin to circle back to many of these ancient "mysteries." On a different note Geoff, I really enjoy and appreciate your very thoughtful and probing interview style. Kudos and keep up the great work.
The journey I've been on from coming across Jordan Peterson in 2016 and starting to question my atheism to wanting to start my own personal "death cult" and trying out psychedelics is wild
Psychedlics is a form of pharmakia; Greek word φαρμακεία, transliterated pharmakeia, which means 'sorcery' and is prohibited in the bible. The apostle Paul lists sorcery as one of many sinful practices that mark the lives of unbelievers: “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife . . . and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21). Interestingly, the New Testament Greek word translated “sorcery” is pharmakeia, which is the source of our English word pharmacy. In Paul’s day, the word primarily meant “dealing in poison” or “drug use” and was applied to divination and spell-casting because sorcerers often used drugs along with their incantations and amulets to conjure occult power.
Fascinating and important labour of detailed love that happens to be deeply personal to a woman like me. As a person that would definitely have been burned at the stake, thank you for your work 🙏 Well bloody done Oragon! Heads up UK. Time for mushroom ☕️ tea.
Jared Diamond has a lot of silly problems with his work - for example, that there were not animals capable of being domesticated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The zebra, for one, can be domesticated. I t hought Ryan Faulk did a great job refuting Diamond.
Would love to hear Bart Ehrman thoughts on any biblical evidence that could suggest some of the events were due to psychedelic drug use! For example, was the burning bush just a DMT-rich acacia tree? Were the Eleusinian Mysteries a gathering where kykeon was consumed (barley/Paspalum distichum, water, mint, ergot/lsd/Claviceps purpurea)... similar to Velada used in Mazatec rituals? Or the divine mushroom of immortality (milk/honey, Amanita muscaria or Psilocybe mexicana mushroom, frankincense)?
I've thought for a while that Christianity is on its way to extinction if they don't make some major changes. Adding psychedelics to the sacrament would definitely do it lol!
The Ancient Sumerian Cuneiform, and Ancient India Vedic Texts, describe, the "Gods," as having descended to earth, walked among humans, and instructed humans, on various technological disciplines. These "Gods," did speak of a "Creator of All," however, these "Gods," did not "Pray," to the "Creator," nor expect, any assistance, from the "Creator," in their daily lives. Some refer, to these "Gods," as the Annunaki, others the Palladians. Tales of these beings, stated, they enjoyed, beer, very much; and lived, extremely, long lives. Even the Biblical Old Testament, references, the "Elohim." Also, in the Bible, the story of Eden, described, "God's" concern, over humans, eating from "The Tree of Life," lest humans, become, as long-lived, as the "Gods!" Now whether knowledge, of these "Gods," was achieved through psychedelic experimentation, or the events described, actually occurred, in our current "Unaltered," reality, I leave, for you, to decide/believe? One thing is certain, something did happen, and eventually, time will tell, which, version of events, is correct, or most accurate! Live Well!
Have you ever experienced a visionary state of ego desolution potentiated by a Psychedelic? *What even a staunch atheist would describe as a ‘Profound Mystical Experience’
@@cathithomas2888 When there are literally hundreds actual real scholars who debunked stuff like that and several times so much so that youtube itself is filled with those, you begin to find that old stuff coming back like zeitgeist a little off. You may be curious the first time but.... there is a reason why David Brown does not claim his book to be historical but fiction.. lol I get what he is saying, it's more important to stick to evidence than presuppositions but I doubt that christianity just heard about those claims for the first time today in 2021, having been around for about more than 2000 years! Knowing how many people are christians just today in 2021. I cannot begin to understand how believing that nobody knows about those claim and has not refuted it. There are even books dealing on that topic today and has been for centuries lol
Have you ever experienced a visionary state of ego desolution potentiated by a Psychedelic? *What even a staunch atheist would describe as a ‘Profound Mystical Experience’
Do you really know what immortality really means? It means to see your planet dying, it means to see Your sun dying, it means to find or build another place to life. That is real immortality and not living on a planet , that one day will cease to exist.
The Universe starts crumbling around You and You have to build a new one, time does not exist for You, than you have reached real immortality. Not the couple of 1000end Years You Talking about or a spiritual realms, Enoch, Anunaki, interesting, but all Childs play.
@@ingopinkowski1091 someday I hope you'll peer down or look up from the Grand Canyon and hope that all peoples will listen to the wisdom of Indigenous peoples who know we are connected to nature's pattern. When you see the Vishnu Shist it's only 1.74 and 1.71 billion years old... May we heal our relationship to Mother Earth. Perhaps that is the mysteries we are needing to relearn to understand the great teachings of our inner/outer worlds as ONE. We are star dust ; )
This is the most impressive, eye opening, awakening book I’ve ever read. I really appreciate the work went into this.
My wife and I are publishing a book later this year called “Consciousness in a Nutshell.” If you really want your mind blown, you might want to check out our explanation of consciousness. In an interview recently, I told the interviewer that The Immortality Key was like the epilogue to our book as it further props up the idea of consciousness we espouse. It would seem as if Brian and I were visited by the same genius. Using ‘genius’ in the ancient Greek sense of the word, of course.
This is an outstanding conversation. This was really inciteful and illuminating. Many of the points you touch on dovetail well into some of the concepts that I've been considering this year (plenty of time for meditation, study and reflection). Thank you so much for being "brave" enough to bring it to us. The kids discount "woo woo" as something negative, to their detriment, I believe. I think the older you get and the more you study, the more you begin to circle back to many of these ancient "mysteries."
On a different note Geoff, I really enjoy and appreciate your very thoughtful and probing interview style. Kudos and keep up the great work.
too bad you have time for meditation study and reflection to come to such conclusions. Get a manual job.
@@donnasherwood283 Thank you for your reply.
The journey I've been on from coming across Jordan Peterson in 2016 and starting to question my atheism to wanting to start my own personal "death cult" and trying out psychedelics is wild
Psychedlics is a form of pharmakia; Greek word φαρμακεία, transliterated pharmakeia, which means 'sorcery' and is prohibited in the bible.
The apostle Paul lists sorcery as one of many sinful practices that mark the lives of unbelievers: “Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife . . . and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21).
Interestingly, the New Testament Greek word translated “sorcery” is pharmakeia, which is the source of our English word pharmacy. In Paul’s day, the word primarily meant “dealing in poison” or “drug use” and was applied to divination and spell-casting because sorcerers often used drugs along with their incantations and amulets to conjure occult power.
Great exchange of ideas. Thank you.
This is absolutely fascinating ! Thanks so much for your dedication to uncovering this curiosity!
Fascinating and important labour of detailed love that happens to be deeply personal to a woman like me. As a person that would definitely have been burned at the stake, thank you for your work 🙏
Well bloody done Oragon! Heads up UK. Time for mushroom ☕️ tea.
It's crazy to realize that the witch hunts probably were hunting surviving cults of Hekate/Circe worshippers or what they evolved into
I always get a ton of value out of these. Thank you!
Odd that the fact the the Bible is symbolism eludes the host
Can't wait to read
Jared Diamond has a lot of silly problems with his work - for example, that there were not animals capable of being domesticated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The zebra, for one, can be domesticated. I t hought Ryan Faulk did a great job refuting Diamond.
Yeah good point 😎 His is a theory and explains some things but that’s it
Forget Oregon need to bring it to Kingston Pennsylvania
sick
Would love to hear Bart Ehrman thoughts on any biblical evidence that could suggest some of the events were due to psychedelic drug use!
For example, was the burning bush just a DMT-rich acacia tree? Were the Eleusinian Mysteries a gathering where kykeon was consumed (barley/Paspalum distichum, water, mint, ergot/lsd/Claviceps purpurea)... similar to Velada used in Mazatec rituals? Or the divine mushroom of immortality (milk/honey, Amanita muscaria or Psilocybe mexicana mushroom, frankincense)?
Meh. Ehrman is probably too much of a gate keeper to even consider new ideas like this one.
Ergovine dissolves in water and at 2-10milligrams gives a psychedelic effect 😉
There's been a prejudice against religion since Isaac Newton. Ironically, Newton was religious.
Psychedelics won't harm your faith, Brian. Quite the opposite.
What a long road for a short cut.
What do you mean shortcut?
I've thought for a while that Christianity is on its way to extinction if they don't make some major changes. Adding psychedelics to the sacrament would definitely do it lol!
WHAT, pychedelics is the whole reason humanity is in the situation its been in up until now!
Early christian drugged wine? Kewl. More episodes
please. :-)
Wait until he does it, I bet he finds socratise
The Ancient Sumerian Cuneiform, and Ancient India Vedic Texts, describe, the "Gods," as having descended to earth, walked among humans, and instructed humans, on various technological disciplines.
These "Gods," did speak of a "Creator of All," however, these "Gods," did not "Pray," to the "Creator," nor expect, any assistance, from the "Creator," in their daily lives.
Some refer, to these "Gods," as the Annunaki, others the Palladians.
Tales of these beings, stated, they enjoyed, beer, very much; and lived, extremely, long lives.
Even the Biblical Old Testament, references, the "Elohim."
Also, in the Bible, the story of Eden, described, "God's" concern, over humans, eating from "The Tree of Life," lest humans, become, as long-lived, as the "Gods!"
Now whether knowledge, of these "Gods," was achieved through psychedelic experimentation, or the events described, actually occurred, in our current "Unaltered," reality, I leave, for you, to decide/believe?
One thing is certain, something did happen, and eventually, time will tell, which, version of events, is correct, or most accurate!
Live Well!
Nectar of the gods/flesh of the gods
Indeed the key to experience or to connect to higher being was through this mad beverage
I believe it
Pro tip, you use way too many commas
He doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. Stick to science, facts, what we know and what we are now discovering.
Have you ever experienced a visionary state of ego desolution potentiated by a Psychedelic?
*What even a staunch atheist would describe as a ‘Profound Mystical Experience’
Try some psychedelics and come back to this.
You are arrogant to even THINK this way; why would anyone listen to you? Don't be IGNORANT, be CURIOUS!!
@@cathithomas2888 When there are literally hundreds actual real scholars who debunked stuff like that and several times so much so that youtube itself is filled with those, you begin to find that old stuff coming back like zeitgeist a little off. You may be curious the first time but.... there is a reason why David Brown does not claim his book to be historical but fiction.. lol
I get what he is saying, it's more important to stick to evidence than presuppositions but I doubt that christianity just heard about those claims for the first time today in 2021, having been around for about more than 2000 years! Knowing how many people are christians just today in 2021. I cannot begin to understand how believing that nobody knows about those claim and has not refuted it. There are even books dealing on that topic today and has been for centuries lol
Elaborate. I'm interested in your hostility
You guys really should stick to the hard science and leave existential psychology to the soft "scientists".
Have you ever experienced a visionary state of ego desolution potentiated by a Psychedelic?
*What even a staunch atheist would describe as a ‘Profound Mystical Experience’
Willful ignorance is not attractive ...
Do you really know what immortality really means? It means to see your planet dying, it means to see Your sun dying, it means to find or build another place to life. That is real immortality and not living on a planet , that one day will cease to exist.
The Universe starts crumbling around You and You have to build a new one, time does not exist for You, than you have reached real immortality. Not the couple of 1000end Years You Talking about or a spiritual realms, Enoch, Anunaki, interesting, but all Childs play.
Even if I lived a Million Years and on the last day die in agony, then the million years have no meaning at all.
Immortality is not just a flicker in time, You are time, that is real immortality
@@ingopinkowski1091 someday I hope you'll peer down or look up from the Grand Canyon and hope that all peoples will listen to the wisdom of Indigenous peoples who know we are connected to nature's pattern. When you see the Vishnu Shist it's only 1.74 and 1.71 billion years old... May we heal our relationship to Mother Earth. Perhaps that is the mysteries we are needing to relearn to understand the great teachings of our inner/outer worlds as ONE. We are star dust ; )
How do you know that that's "real immortality"?