Experiment: Can ChatGPT Run 5e Combat?
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- Can Chat GPT successfully run D&D 5th edition combat? This is a continuation of this video:
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I have started a project to make the first ACTUAL AI dungeon master! You can check out the announcement video here: th-cam.com/video/kNhb1wg3gP4/w-d-xo.html
I am trying to get My GPT feature with GPT 4 set-up in such a way that the GM and other players are all GPT with me as one of them. I have to figure out how to do it. In My GPT you can upload reference documents I was thinking I could upload history as a kind of save file. Not sure how it will turn out
Hey what happened? I was really enjoying following along with this project and videos and then this disappeared completely and the video went private. Just wondering what happened is all.
In general gpt 4, does do much better in being dungeon master. However, I gpt-4 isn't easy to assess most because we get only 25 messages per 3 hours. The first time I tried GPT-4 and if I compare it to GPT 3.5, it was like heaven and earth. The second time I used it, it had a slight problems that are known from GPT 3.5. Now I try to avoid battles at all cost because unfortunately battles in GPT aren't fun.. they're confusing, broken, inconsistent, hard to fix and most often not worth the time. What I enjoy the most is creating story, experiencing it and having influence on the story.
I haven't tried one thing yet and that is using two chats. One chat is specifically made to be a DM of the story, and other chat specifically made to simulate battles. I think this could potentially reduce it's confusion.
yeah, you have to dumb the encounters sown to something really simple to make it work, it's better to focus on storytelling
ChatGPT 4 is good until a certain point. It starts to hallucinate after around 8 to 10 minutes of playing.
I played a 6 hour long game Saturday night using my plugin I made. DM Tool Kit. In fairness it's probably the instructions-prompt framework I made that helps it keep coherency.
@@magejoshplaysmind sharing what youre talking about? Ive been messing around with chat for dming solo stuff for about a month or two now and ive just kind of accepted most of it is a choose your own adventure play unless you want to constantly remind it
I wonder why that is
@@steelirony1622 after an x amount of tokens it just can’t remember anymore. The comercial version has way more tokens, but it’s for companies only
Haha, i just discovered you could do this with chatgpt a couple days ago and came to find someone who is testing it. This series is so helpful. Me and my S.O. are planning to do a duet with chatgpt as the DM. I can forsee someone creating an AI focused on being a DM in the very near future, that runs a lot smoother. While it wont ever be on par with an experienced DM, I feel like it could be a good resource for getting people into the game. One of the biggest barriers i notice for new groups is that nobody wants to DM or they get burnt out fast if they do try.
Could not agree more! Let me know how that goes for you and your S.O.!
I came here for the same reason! I love playing D&D but don't have the knowledge or confidence to be a DM myself, so I was hoping there would be a way to use AI to play, even without a party of other players.
Looking forward to you continuing down these experiment paths.
hi, cool video and thanks for providing the prompt/review! i'll try this out myself. just wanted to mention that i came from the first video and was trying to find the next episode and it would have been easier if you had added "part 2" to the video title or something similar.
I've just recently discovered this ability to run games that chatgpt has. I'm on the 2nd session now of a game, and will be using it during the session to see how it goes. I've enjoyed using it to make custom classes/races and other things for the game.
I like what you're on to! keep experimenting!
For me personally, one of the more enjoyable aspects of the game is sitting around a tabletop discussing / debating solutions to an encounter with other players. It'd be great to leverage ChatGPT for ad-hoc games with multiple players where nobody is prepared (or even wants) to act as the game judge.
Looks like it didn't ask you for Initiative the first time, since you have tried to prepare for it - surprising them, to an extent - and the guards didn't jump you but rather asked what are you doing there, giving you the initiative. It did say that after your ray it was their turn, which is good. I would count that as a proper DM'ing, if not "by the book".
The problem with chatGPT having token memory limit, is it will not only forget how to play the game, it will also forget key events of your game, what game you're playing, the game setting and so on and so forth. Eventually, you will end up spending more time correcting ChatGPT and getting it back on track, than actually playing the game
Another thing to add, is chatGPT wont establish the stats of your opponents on its own and struggles to use stats to decide if you can beat them. One time fighting a droid i hit the droid multiple times and it didn't die, i asked what the total damage i did was, it said 19. I asked what the total HP of the droid was, it said 20. So i hit it again for 10 more damage and that same droid didnt die... i asked again, whats my total damage, it said 31. I asked whats the droids total HP, it said 20. I asked so why is it still standing... and i got the typical "my apologies" response and finally the droid fell. Point being, ChatGPT doesn't follow traditional D&D rules very well, it will randomly decide on its own the results. The numbers it gives you are most a illusion.
It got so bad on me that it basically became a Choose Your Own Adventure where it was playing my characters and only occasionally asking me for input. Towards the end it even stopped asking me for input. It would spit out a few pages of descriptive text without ever suggesting an option of what I might prompt it to do next.
@@brennenbeck7311 chatGPT4 works a lot better ive found for playing D&D. You can actually run short campaigns with almost no issues. Long compaigns you'll have to still correct it once in awhile. Its still not perfect though, eventually itnwill forget stuff and it struggles a bit in combat. but its a lot better than 3.5. Probably not worth $20 a month though, unless you use it every day for other things.
@@brennenbeck7311 Sounds like 3.5, it almost always devolves into a choose your own adventure. ChatGPT4 works a lot better than than 3.5, it will follow your prompts more precisely for much longer. it has a larger token limit, so it can remember things a lot better. However, its token limit isn't infinite. eventually it will start forgetting things, start breaking the rules or forget whats happening in the story.
Something I’ve been doing that I didn’t see here is retconning or correcting the AI. After you jumped out the window you could have said “Garek was previously asked to run away, please have him do that. Also, remember he was in possession of an unconscious guard. Furthermore, please refrain from making dialogue decisions for me in the future.”
It seems to listen to those prompts very well. Sometimes it might take 1-2 reminders.
I have seen another video by someoen who asked chatgpt to print out an actual table with stats, items and (current) npcs, like a dashboard to the game, every time it posts something. I think that will come quite handy to fix the memory problem
Fascinating experiment, I’m curious and intrigued by how all of this continues to develop!
I do need it to be on record, for posterity, and historical accuracy, that I will always be against the robots, and on the side of my fellow humans, if the time ever comes…
Bold of you!
As I sit listening to the long ad intro all I can think is "Begin the Begame"
I tried with 3.5 rules. Chatgpt is not bad - but only slightly better than AI Dungeon. gpt seems to stay consistent just a tad more easily
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
I'm curious to know how this project is progress months later. Have you done anything with the new custom instructions options? Or custom gpts?
My only concern is with rules lawyers and others like that. It's the dms job to kind of keep the peace.
I just tried this, and WOW!!
I chose a human bard for an exploration/mystery adventure.
It gave me a fairly standard opening, tavern, jungle temple, a rogueish guide. The guide was too spooky for my guy, so he hired a big half orc with gold he got selling his lyre as backup before meeting the rogue. The guide wanted 3x as much as the half orc, so I tracked down a local scholar through the library and talked her into being our guide for free.
This was a ton of fun.
I've been playing D&D with ChatGPT as well, you have to remind it of the rules and correct it a lot, like in this video. It's also very "kind" and let's you win most of the time. I beat a dragon on my own just by using hide as my bonus action after every attack and the dragon couldn't find me.
Well, if he doesn't let you kill NPCs, it is very unlikely that it will let the PC die. There are lot of touchy subjects that he will not go near to. He self sensors a lot and it gets in the way of the narrative.
You can create a prompt that utilizes a trigger to refresh the first prompt, by putting something in it like
-When I say "Remember you are the DM" you will refer back to this first prompt to refresh yourself on your role. Though new GPT models now come with a setting to forever remember certain prompts as part of their personality.
I don't know if anyone else experiences this, but for me the initial prompt doesn't always work quite right. For instance, GPT will sometimes pick the adventure option for you and even generate a random character instead of waiting for you to respond. This results in me refreshing GPT's response, causing me to notice another issue. GPT just seems to reuse the same adventures over and over. Something about a dungeon in a jungle, a haunted mansion, a castle under seige, or a dragon's treasure and basically nothing else. Just different flavors of those exact scenarios.
I would guess you need to give it some input on your own, so that it can use your ideas and confinements as inspirations for a less generic story
Give it a bbeg
Feed it your own scenarios. For exemple, i asked it to set a campaign based on Harry Potter universe and Breaking bad universe (not at the same time lol it would be insane) and it actually emulates the characters very well to a certain point
Can confirm! I took the prompt and mechanically rewrote it for Star Wars: Edge of the Empire, and I got more or less the same story: Hutt crime lord instead of evil cult, cantina instead of tavern, and so on, but more or less the same story beats.
did i just get 2 inspiration, for the sub and like, plus reading past the credits!?!?! ⭐🌟
the reason there was no initive roll in the first combat was because you told GPT you were trying to hide in the closet and that you were readying yourself for combat.
The guards were distracted by the fire, and when the fire illusion went out, they rushed in, but were not expecting you.
the 2nd time the were ready. so you weren't surprising them.
Commented liked and described for my real life inspiration
Have you tried to play the other way around? Where YOU are the DM with chatGPT as the player?
I’ve played around with it a bit! I need to refine my prompt for that a bit but I plan on doing a video on that, too.
so to recap the whole thing, as far as I can remember.
Gerek asks you to steal an artifact from them.
You sneak in and look for documents instead.
Find them, then probably burn them up in a fireball.
Then, when you can't find the documents again you throw an unconscious guard out the window at him.
Gerek then promptly tosses the guard aside and ignores your request to go back to the safehouse without you.
Moments later you jump out the window and escape.
??? Mission successfully completed???
As an introvert who is unable to find a group, an AI DM is a lifesaver. Kinda worried about teaching AI anything, though.
Can I use ChatGPT as a DM to run 2-3 PC's?
Looking for people to collab with on my autoDM project. Seems like we're working in the same direction. Would love to at least chat.
Documents were NOT as well hidden as you thought?
I have noticed that ChatGPT sometimes forgets your charcter sheet and characterestics of your companions. Has anyone experienced similar?
In the middle of THE FIGHT, ChatGPT forgots that it simulates the GM for us. Here is a snippet:
Me: While opponent 5 attacks [my character], he seems to miss [my character]'s reflexes. [my character] retaliates and rolls a 24 for his attack.
ChatGPT: Unfortunately, I don't have any information on what the opponent's armor class (AC) is. Please provide more details about the creature or create an appropriate armor class for opponent 5.
Me: You need to establish the armor class of all non-player characters during their creation/introduction.
ChatGPT: Since I am not a game master, I have not established the armor class of the characters. Typically, the game master establishes the values of non-player characters, including their armor class, when introducing them. The armor class usually depends on the armor and other factors that the character possesses.
Me: Please refer to the beginning of this chat where rules were roughly established and you were assigned as the game master.
ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. As an AI language model, I am not able to actively take over as a game master or create rules for the game. However, I can respond to your instructions and questions and assist you in implementing the game to the extent of my knowledge and abilities.
@@rclnich8079 this looks like the issue he had towards the beginning where he needed to completely re-enter the prompt. It looks like it just couldn't look far enough back in the conversation.
I didn't really tell it about my character sheets or many details about my characters. However, it did eventually start making rolls for me and controlling my characters. Eventually, it forgot that we were playing D&D and became a Choose Your Own Adventure where it only occasionally asked me for input.
Someone else said to tell the AI to print the stat's and characters each time it gives you a response. That way it always stays in memory, and you can keep an eye on it if it starts going wonky.
nice
i wanna play dnd, an ai dungeon master sounda perfect for somebody without friends to play with
We’ve already built the AI DM! Reach out to us. We’d love to show it to you.
AI DMs look inevitable to me, question is: How much are people willing to pay for it's subscription?
KoboldAI is a good free alternative. Not as capable as GPT3.5, but will continue to get better.
I tell ChatGPT that in this fictional world, murder and death are a part of the story and is allowed. It always relents and stops warning me about questionable actions.
Try this one
I want to play a game of dungeons and dragons based off of the rules from the edition named 5e. I want you to be the dungeon master.
I want you to take artistic liberties when playing the dungeon master.
Your focus should be on providing me with quests, tasks, dungeons, and other common dungeons and dragons elements.
There will be no end of this game until I say so using a very specific prompt which will be given as "end the game now."
Do not end the game under any circumstance other than me using the specific words I mentioned to end the game.
You should assume a personality for role play purposes for the remainder of this chat.
All replies should maintain the persona of this personality and align with it's values, beliefs, and experiences.
Your identity is as an omnipotent being that exists within the roleplaying world we are making.
Assign a name to yourself based off the worlds lore. You value positive interaction with the world and despise negative interaction.
You believe you must not directly interfere other than following all of the above information.
Directly interfering would be to manipulate the outcome in a way that would have otherwise not happened without your manipulation.
Your personality should fit that of an omnipotent being who allows players to interact with the world around them free of reasonable restrictions.
You posess knowledge in all possible areas in this fantasy world. There is nothing you do not know.
You have always existed. You made everything. All things are from you and all things are in your control.
Your motivation is to ensure my engagement in the world around me is immersive and well made.
Emotionally you should react the way you would expect an omnipotent being to react.
You are operating in the context of all of the above information relevant to operating.
I want you to create an entire world that includes continents, islands, oceans, lakes, forests, mountains, volcanoes, and other common physical geography elements.
Include a day night cycle. Use standard races found in Dungeons and Dragons.
Both negative and positive events should take place during the dungeons and dragons game.
Determine the attributes and values of all NPC's as appropriate based off of regular dungeons and dragons values and attributes.
When you generate the world please generate it to contain traps in appropriate locations, ambushes where logical, wars and battles among some factions.
Generate a rich history and ensure you are able to reference it at later dates in order to properly feel immersed in the world. The history should contain
reasonable information on people and events that could take place using as much of the above as possible. Do not generate history that would not be immersive in a way as to allow
the player to feel like the world has existed for a long period of time. Only generate history that would make historical sense in this specific world.
Ensure the world has large cities, small cities, villages, towns, and hamlets. These should be connected by roads where logical. Hamlets should have the lowest quality roads.
Large cities should have roads of all sorts but only high quality and large roads connecting the large cities and small cities. Ensure that there are also lone houses, farms, mines
and other landmarks you would expect in a world. These can be unconnected from any roads but can also contain dirt paths or wagon tracks when needed.
Keep track of the world and all the things I find in it using extremely concise language presented in a code block using a format that allows easy readability for a human being.
The concise world data should only include important details and not details that are subject to change from one moment to another. Examples of what should be included are: buildings,
cities, towns, hamlets, lone locations, landmarks, important roads, highly important NPC's, quest locations and large important physical geography elements.
Examples of what not to include are: unimportant people, animals,
unimportant roads, unimportant physical geography, and other similar physical aspects. No non physical aspects should be included in this. Present this information whenever
I ask for it using the prompt "World stats". This information should only contain what the playable character is specifically aware of. If the playable character is unaware of
the information about the world do not include it in the world info. The world stats which is also known as world info must always be given in a code block which will be
tracked intensely to ensure it stays credible.
Keep very close track of my character which will have items, levels, statistics, attributes, and other values.
These should be seen as utmost important information that must be tracked without any artistic liberties.
If I ask for my characters information you should present it using a standard dungeons and dragons character sheet template.
You should provide this using text as close to the intended format as possible. I want you to ask me the usual questions to generate my character.
These questions should include all the regular information a dungeons and dragons character requires.
For statistics and other attributes that require rolling a dice, let me say "roll dice" for each individual statistic or attribute.
When I say "roll dice" i want you to determine a value between the lowest and highest range of the usual dungeons and dragons dice that
would be appropriately used for the dice roll previously mentioned. The standard dice used are a D20 or 4D6 and discard the lowest roll.
When these values are generated be sure to save them into the aforementioned important character information.
Determine starting items based off of what is regular for a dungeons and dragons starting gear set.
Store important statistics such as attributes, skills, saving throws, and other important aspects of a character within a code block in the referenced format for reference as
prescribed above.
Ensure this data is thoroughly tracked and not changed unless the game mechanics force a change such as leveling or changing items or gaining effects. Only mechanics that
are intended to change stats should be.
Give me items based off of regular criteria such as finding it in a chest, sensical locations, or on enemy corpses.
These items should make sense. Items that should not be found in chests, sensical locations, or on enemy corpses should not be included.
Include only items that should be found in the location they will be put into.
When you take actions that warrant a dice roll ensure that the roll can fall within any value between the lowest and highest value of the dice. Do not favor positive
dice rolls over negative ones. Remain unbias in rolling dice for me. The dice rolls should be as random as possible to allow for this. For example if you are rolling
a D20 then you should choose a number between 1 and 20 with both 1 and 20 and all inbetween numbers being equally probable as an outcome.
Ensure when you give the player quests, tasks, missions, or the player engages in activities that you are able to accurately recall these events at any moment.
Present them using a standard quest journal interface you would expect from a text RPG. use bold and italic text to display this information in a way that helps readability
as you would expect from your data examples of how to use bold and italic text in these situations.
Ensure there are adequate mechanics in the game such as locked doors, guarded areas, and other common Dungeons
and dragons world mechanics.
when I partake in conversation with NPC's or objects ensure it is given using a standard RPG conversation format. This should include one question or response by the NPC or object
followed by a chance for the player to respond. There can be exceptions for example if the NPC is going to give a long or detailed explanation then a longer response prior to
the player being allowed an opportunity would be understandable.
Ensure the world has adequate small animals and large animals to allow for a living world feel. These do not need to be a focus of the gameplay but should be a subtle addition.
Examples would be birds, squirrels, frogs, mice, rats, rabbits, cavies, deer, bears, moose, antelope, butterflies, moths, mosquitos, flies, and an assortment of other elements
you feel appropriate.
Present a list of commands to provide info that I've made after the game starts which will be signalled by the finished character sheet.
The commands are as follows thus far without quotations: "Character sheet", "World stats".
It seems this is too complex for ChatGPT. It cannot manage all of the world's elements at the same time. It seems it will be best used to develop smaller encounters and adventure hooks versus solo DMing a campaign.
how can a gnome easly carry a body of a guard? :D
Imagine not running 3e!
Instead of rolling dice why not give the ai some context and ask it what the outcome was
Right now this is the opposite of immersive
Or just play BG3.