My bud uses a rule for healing potions I really like, where if they're consumed as a bonus action they have to roll for HP recovery, but if they take one as an action they get max HP.
@@larryvickers2480 You can only twin a spell that targets only one creature. Since magic missile can target multiple creatures, it can't be twinned. Same goes for spells with an AoE or spells with a range of self.
My favorite House Rule Stealth - Stealth checks are not made at the moment when a character decides to be sneaky, instead it is made at any moment when they could reasonably be discovered. This solves so many issues with stealth. It prevents players from being overly brazen when they know they rolled well on their stealth (or the opposite), and it allows for a lot of situational modifiers to be made to the roll because you know the exact circumstances at the moment when they could be noticed, rather than have it just be some catch-all roll. I find that it breaks my players out of the mindset that a high stealth roll means they're basically invisible until they decide not to be.
Personally, I feel this is how it should be. A stealth roll isn't needed when a player is trying to be stealthy if there's nothing around to detect them. Think of it like this: Player: "I'm going to sneak through the woods." (Rolls a successful stealth check.) DM (knowing there's nothing around for miles): "Okay. The forest doesn't know you're there!"
@@DungeonDudes The main problem with Stealth in 5e - from my perspective as a new player - is that it's extremely unclear how useful the "Hide" action is supposed to be in combat. The rules describe that it's supposed to be somewhat "realistic" and that simply hiding behind your half orc ally without moving will not give your halfling the "unseen attacker" advantage on the next attack roll - but other than those blatant cases, it seems to be completely up to DM discretion. While DM discretion can be fine, I could see this leading to lots of finicky situations at the table and potential fights over "how obscured" a character is when hiding or "how distracted" that adult dragon is by the barbarian hacking its ankles. It just seems not worth it, despite seemingly being a core feature of the Rogue.
@@Nr4747 There are loads of arguments all around the internet about this very subject. I am not even going to try and go into it here, but opinions vary wildly, and it's really something you should discuss with your group before playing a rogue. At my table, if a rogue makes a reasonable attempt at making their next attack come from a surprising place after hiding, I'll give them advantage. If they are just going to try and duck behind the same pillar/corner over and over, it's not going to fool anything that has enough intelligence to understand object permanence. But there are groups out there that do allow that, and that's OK, too. We are here because of a video about house rules, after all.
It should be done this way. Every person who has ever tried to sneak around always THOUGHT they succeeded. They never KNEW however until they got caught or didnt
My favorite Homebrew: grazes - when attack roll or check is shy by 1 point ( the character rolls a 16 when they need a 17 to succeed) they succeed at a penalty. In combat, they would hit, but do half damage. When picking a lock, they would succeed, but trigger an unseen trap. When being stealthy, they would remain unseen, but the guard knows someone is there and begins searching, etc.
I do a variant of this where every check has different bands of DC, where the highest return the best results, while lower bands become more mixed. An example with a History check to find out the name of a town where an event took place would be 1-5, no idea; 6-10, cryptic information like "ends with -shire or something"; 11+ I give out the name of the town they're looking for. I imagine this is very common, and it works very well. My players know this is what is happening behind the scenes too, so they feel it is less arbitrary.
Mathieu Robitaille tbh when I heard the bloodied condition I immediately remembered the sheer amount of times our party has in-fighting, and how my paper-thin half orc Druid would be ‘bloodied’ so often lol (he’s got like... 20 hp... rolling for hp sucks)
@@thatoneVoidDemon since we're on house rules, there's the average hp set in the PHB and a rule I have in my game if they don't like rolling is every level they can choose the average (on a d10 I think it's 6+CON) but if they roll they MUST take the roll. I find it helps balance it out a bunch as some like the gamble and others want to avoid it.
Skewrz my old Dm used a bit of a home brew version where if you roll under the average you get the average which makes it slightly fairer but lessens the rng of having lower health or something idk
@@cosmit4250 I used to do that in 3.x. I gave my players a choice of (assuming d8s) take 5 or roll, but if you get less than 4, you get 4. Change as appropriate for the hit dice.
@AllegoryGar Gary shared that with us, the,- "old school", original D&D players and DMs. We already DO know that! It's the players demanding exact rules, to try to undermine the DM! Not to mention, players don't see the DM as THE ultimate, Final, arbiter and referee!
Lvl 12 Human Druid takes the prodigy feat, expertise in medicine, maxed wisdom, drinks potion, gains 2d4 +16 hit points But at the same time, I like it
Could always just house rule call them healing kits or something similar instead of health potions if you're worried about them breaking immersion. Magical salves that knowing how to apply them makes it more effective than rubbing it everywhere.
I hate people being forced into conventional parties, so my house rule is that with a potion you can either use a full action and gain 10hp, or a bonus action and roll. You're either forgoing an attack to carefully drink it, or you're spilling it everywhere.
@@tbohn10 rolled a nat 1: in your rush you accidentally mistook your poison bottles for healing potions - lucky you mostly missed your mouth! take one point of additional damage haha
Yo can we get a video fleshing out the minion rule specifically? This seems like the single most useful rule for scaling up encounters and really raising the stakes but I don’t know that I fully understand it
@@krisratliff3157 Simple enough: You have a bunch of really cool monsters that aren't the big bad. They are thematically cool and level appropriate, but fighting them is a chore. See bandits, goblins, kobolds, etc. Minions keep all those cool elements, but get 2 really important changes. Change 1: minions only have 1hp so any successful attack defeats them. Change 2: Minions never die to a failed attack or if they make a successful save, even if it would typically do damage. They keep all their other typical stats (AC, special abilities, modifiers etc). In a 1v1, you might elevate a minion to is normal stats to ensure that a fight has stakes (such as giving full health to a fleeing guard shouting for help so he isn't automatically deleted by the rogue).
Our game yesterday implemented the potion and crit rules. They freaking loved it, and I loved how much they loved it. Really took combat to an elevated level, even with a PC dying.
Just unassuming get your players onboard with the flanking rules, like it's not the end of the world. Then suddenly, out of the corner of their eyes... The Kobold Gang
The advantage on attack rolls statistically is the same as having a +5 to a single roll. So I would stick to advantage when the flanking creatures are more than two, and add a +2 when they are exactly two.
@@pierluigidipietro8097 actually it's 3.325. average roll is 10.5 while average roll with advantage is 13.825. And the reason I would prefer a flat bonus over advantage is because it doesn't makes all the other sources of advantage meaningless since you can just flank.
The House Rule: Declare you are using a "Social" Skill/Check, Roll, Determine result....Role Play the Result Making your slick pick up line then rolling a fail seems kinda lame...rolling a fail and being forced to RP a lame pick up line, that's fun!
this is good only for experienced players as they could predict where the conversations would go, and most of the time able to deliver a good arguments when it comes to deception or persuation events. this could make the interactions more interesting. but for new players, what if they got a high roll for deception, and later giving a bad or even a contradictive arguments to npc
@@hayaku95 I think the rp should be optional under that system, if the player can come up with something really good (or laughably bad) then they have the option to entertain the group with it.
I would say as the GM if the pickup line or whatever the rp roll is for is really good I give advantage. And dis if its terrible. Certainly helps avoid that scenario
@@elonwhatever Yeah this whole video could basically just be reduced to like, the screengrabs they have of the rules in text. And if they wanted a video it could've just been 10 minutes of them explaining each one briefly... Not really enjoying these guys because of the long-winded overly obvious explinations, and often just bad takes in general on things lmao.
My favorite house rule about health potions combines the two you mentioned in an interesting way. Drinking the health potion takes only a bonus action but you roll the healing. However if you decide to take the time to pour the health potion over whatever wounds you have accumulated it takes your entire action but maximizes the potion's effect.
By this same method your DM can choose to make any type of potion either topical (1 action) or ingested (Bonus Action) depending on how they want them to be used.
About the potion as a bonus action, my DM had a rule that I live concerning potions. You can hold ONE on your belt to be used as a bonus action. All others cost an action. Feels really great to me.
The reason why Flanking wasn't in the Core Rulebook is because D&D 5e can be played complete in Theater of the Mind. Some DMs, especially new ones, don't have minis to illustrate the battlefield, so it can be difficult to apply that level of tactical complexity to a battlefield situation where not everyone is seeing the same thing in their mind. This isn't a bad thing, just kinder and less demanding to new players and DMs joining the growing D&D community.
I actually use a variation on the minion rule in 5e: Instead of explicitly 1 hp, I actually give them effectively 1/10 their normal HP value (which, in the grand scheme of high-tier play, is virtually the same given the general damage output of characters, but is more there for the sake of spells like color spray or sleep where HP amount matters), strip them of multiattack while also minimizing their damage (since I already use average damage for regular monsters as is), and have them always act on Initiative Count 10. In any case though, the critical hit and potion houserules I am definitely taking~
i call those minions cannonfodder or one hit wonders, down with one hit. i start with double the number of party members and if the party killed 3/4 of those one-hit wonders, i keep adding a number equal to the number of party members till the big bruisers are down or are now coz of the partys constitution a challenge on their own without their cannonfodder ;)
@@imperiousartifact1473 since they add to the fight i think they should have some but since they are just one hit wonders the value shouldn´t be too high max 50 xp per minion. i don´t worry about xp since i GM with milestones
Another idea is that, if the disguise is physical in nature, the players gain a bonus to deception checks with that faction (basically being able to use the "We've got wounded here, get out of the way" tactic)
House Rule: Daggers count as ranged weapons/attacks when thrown. If the character throwing the dagger is proficient with daggers (or all Simple Weapons), drawing the dagger counts as part of the attack (akin to drawing an arrow to fire a bow). < This house rule opens up dagger throwing to a number of interesting feats and other options.
That's already how the Thrown property works. "If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack" (PHB 147). RAW, throwing a dagger, javelin, spear, etc all count for features like sharpshooter, for example.
To streamline combat I: 1) Run real life military small unit tactics of ambushs. 2) If a minion takes more than a 1/3 of damage- he will attempt to bolt. 3) If the minions lose more than 20-25% of their numbers they will retreat and attempt an attack later or fully flee. 4) I only roll for successful attacks, and apply a uniform average damage to the PCs, I modify this depending on the scenario and believability. 5)Always break up combat with a complication ex. 2 rounds into combat, one of the npcs takes a hostage, or a fire breaks out and starts spreading, or the bbeg attempts a parlay or starts his evil plan. 6)Diversify your npcs- this forces your group to deal with a goliath, two archers and a cleric. It can really bring out the tactical side of your players. 7) Finally don't be afraid to kill your PCs, but remember your goal is to tell a story, not fight the PCs. Ex. After PC bob takes crit damage, NPCs threaten to finish him unless the group surrunders. Continue the story with them being carted off or being brought before a boss npc, instead of just methodically killing them until they get the bright idea to cut their losses and run.
With crits, I usually ask my players "what makes this attack a critical hit?" and have them describe whatever flashy move they do, then give the enemy penalties or the player characters bonuses depending on what is described. Doing things this way gives crits a satisfying quality to them rather than just "you do a lot of damage" and helps negate the issue of a crit that doesn't do a lot of damage.
My party uses a combination of the two health potion rules. If you drink one as an action, you get the max possible health. If you drink as a bonus action, you out roll as normal. If you feed it to someone else, it's an action and you roll as normal.
I really like the house rule for flanking we play with. If you flank you get 1.5 Proficiency Bonus to your melee attack. So basicly from lvl 1-8 you get +1, from 9-16 you get +2 and from 17-20 you get +3. The idea is that the more skilled you are the better you are at taking advantage of the flanking. :)
The mook rule from 13th age is also a cool way to do mobs of small weak creatures too imo , the way it works is a group of mooks will share a hp total , a large token , and a stat sheet with say maybe 6 goblins or something making up your mook mob, and basically every time you take off 1/x amount of their total hp so in this example 1/6 of their hp their number of attacks per round goes from 6 to 5 and since a single mook normally has maybe a couple hp your fighter or whatever can feel like a badass when he does 12 damage with his long sword and kills like 3 goblins in a turn whereas with the 1 hp minion rule he can only kill as many as he has attacks per round
Fighters do 4 attacks at 20, 5 with feats/special weapons/certain features. So they can dispatch a group pretty fast. Using both rules might be an interesting idea.
Reminds me of rules for swarms in some systems.You know, rats, snakes, snotlings what-have-you. Could be a great way of dealing with groups of "trash mobs"
"When you roll a critical hit, you may choose one die to count as the maximum it can roll" or something would solve the rogue & paladin problem if it is a problem at all.
There's just one problem with that. Normally when you crit you double all the dice damage, which means that if you have something like 10 dice it's a lot. Choosing only a die to max would make it feel quite underwhelming, unless I misunderstood something.
I think he means max one die, roll the rest as you normally woukd with a crit. So you still get double the dice, but only one is automatically maxed out.
i dont remember what system i played once but crists were just maximum damage+2 times the relevant modifier so you didnt have to roll nor add too much math a crit from a d8 weapon with a +2 strenght modifier would be 8+4=12 damage, it was enough to feel awesome without using much math nor breaking the game
The simplest critical is simply maximum damage, which is very close to the same value as rolling twice, so does not affect game balance. Works for rogues & paladins, avoids low damage criticals, and easy to calculate. To get the exact average, use maximum + 1 per die + any roll critical extras (like half orc savage attacker).
I am new to your site, and I am excited to see more. I wanted to share the one house rule I have been using since the 1980's. There is a book called, Arms Law Claw Law. I believe it was used for a Middle Earth role playing game. In it is a percentile crit chart that is very descriptive, and can lead to additional roleplaying opportunities. When ever a 20 is rolled, a second d-20 is rolled. These carts are broken up into five columns, so when making the second role of 16, 17, 18, 19, or 20, gets you to a better crit. Then role the percentage dice, and get your results. This seem like a lot of rolling, but it only happens once or twice a game session, and the one minute of time turns into a very suspenseful and rememberable moment. We always dbl. the damage, and tripple the damage if a 20, 20 is rolled. The book is worth checking out. thanks.
personally i really like the better crit rule. we fought an ogre recently and it rolled max damage on one crit, instakilling one pc almost and then crited once more dealing less damage than some of the regular hits. of course i liked not beeing the next one to get smashed but it didnt really feel like a crit.
@JoeRingo118 Barbarians do crazy damage, and even if they didn't they still take half damage from most attacks combined with a gigantic health pool and advantage on dexterity saving throws. The last thing they need is more damage.
I run a pretty high magic setting. And it seems to be really easy for my full casters to just load up on spells that are pure damage, so they ignore a lot of low end buff/utility spells. So I house ruled that cantrips can be casted as bonus actions so long as they don't cause damage or conditions to enemies. Suddenly my players started taking True Strike to help out martial players and other spells that lean more towards flavor rather than power. It might not work at every table, but it makes my casters less glass cannon and more magical swiss army knife.
My group is made up of DMs. We all tweak our games. Flanking is something we’ve been doing for 30 years. I like the minions and bloodied rules. We all tend to be descriptive and have done something similar to the bloodied rule. I like the activation of special abilities with it. Makes sense. Good video!
Intelligence is usually the least useful stat, so I let players add their INT modifier to ability checks (in addition to the main ability) if they describe a particularly precise or clever way to perform the action. For example they make a perception check and describe exactly what they're looking for they get d20 + perception + INT; if they try to pickpocket someone and describe how they slip a dummy item in to replace the stolen one they get d20 + sleight of hand + INT.
On the critical hit subject: I usually mix your approach of maximizing the hit die and add to the roll with exploding die. For example: If the aforementioned fighter crits, he deals 8 + 1d8 + STR, but he can roll another 1d8 if he rolls an 8. And he would keep rolling as long as the result was 8. On one hand it gives harder hitting weapons a lower probability of exploding, on the other in my head it represents the situation better. It is easier for a rogue to connect a dagger to someone's neck, than a barbarian doing the same while swinging a greataxe. Therefore, a dagger "explodes" easier on crits than a greataxe. They both deal a lot of damage on crits, but the dagger is marginally better on average. Nice video!
this is the open-ended philosopy used in Rolemaster. It works either way, tough, and the players have to agree and accept that a wimp monster having a 1d4 dagger could slay them if he is lucky enough
It may be better to on a crit change that to have the damage fall on a geometric distribution of maximum number on a die*X~geometric(1/maximum number on die)+final roll that doesn’t get that maximum number+ dex +strength. Similar in allowing hypothetically infinite damage from a crit (makes sense for slitting a throat), and better than just adding 8+dex at the start as it forces a weapon attacker to invest in strength if they want good critical hits (strength is something you need to pull back a bow string and so forth).
Critical Damage House Rule: A) Max DMG + 1dx + mods AND/OR B) If crit dmg is lowest possible, DM applies some other debilitating effect to victim as if it was a “hidden” injury or effect. For ex: bleeding 1dx/round, slowed (ie, as if hamstrung), AC -1 (due to damaged armor or shield, as if a leather strap was cut so not as effective), or Dmg die - x (ie, they can’t hit as hard since a critical muscle/tendon damaged), etc
one of my favorite rules so far are Spell Points, found in 3.5 Unearthed Arcana page 153 i just love how much freedom that rule gives to spellcasters without completely breaking them, you still have to make a list of prepared spells but you can spend your "MP" however you want
Bloodied was an old 4e rule I really missed. I completely agree that it's a great descriptive tool as a dungeon master and it's one I naturally brought over when I transitioned my players to 5e. Great video guys. Minions not making it back into 5e also surprised me.
shouldn't... it was largely criticised because of how stupid it made monsters look. it may have made the game easier on DMs who preffer a more cinematic style of game play. but it made strickly no sense strategically for the players who wanted real battle. exemple... that ogre you fought when you were level 4 was no slouch... now because someone is his boss, he suddently lost all will to fight and lost all his endurance by suddently becoming a 1 hit point slime bag ? that creature evolved too, it didn't stay that way you know. plus your leveling up already compensated for the damage dealing, making him easier to kill. there is no need to make him even weaker by removing the only thing that made him formidable to begin with. it makes no sense for any world to have monions... removing a few HP off a creature because keeping a monster at 3 hp is useless, is a thing you can easily do... but removing 100 hp from a monster because he has a boss is strickly bullshit.
Two that I personally like: 1) When using the Careful Spell metamagic, instead of giving advantage to your allies on the saving throw, the spell warps around them, protecting them from it's effects. Makes better use of those sorcery points. 2) Barbarian Rage ends when the Barbarian doesn't attack or take damage? How about Rage ending if the Barbarian takes a non-aggressive action, such as running away, using a potion or hiding? If the Barbarian is raging and can see it's target, but can't get to it in one turn, why would they suddenly calm down? Wouldn't they continue to chase down the target as angrily as possible? So, if the Barbarian is actively trying to attack a target, whether it gets the hit or not, it should continue to rage. If it stops trying to attack for any reason, then the rage ends.
@@josephdellavecchia7828 I don't see the point of a barbarian hurting themselves to keep the rage going... mechanical, sure, but from a narrative standpoint, if the barbarian is charging at their enemy head-on and they just can't reach them in one round of combat, why would they suddenly be less angry? The way I see it, they should continue to be angry and laser-focused on that target. If they do anything that requires more thought than "CHARGE! KILL! GRAAAH!", then sure, the rage can end. Down a potion, rage ends. Hide, disengage to run away, rage ends. But if you're running full-tilt at something you want to kill? Rage should keep going even if you can't make it. It just makes sense logically.
I don't understand your suggestion for the Careful Spell metamagic. " A chosen creature automatically succeeds on its saving throw against the spell." It already does, by RAW, exactly what you want it to do.
Elliott Petersen Succeeding on a saving throw doesn't necessarily eliminate a spell's effects. Especially at high levels, 'half-damage on a successful save' is extremely common.
The minion house rule is so brilliant! I've just recently had my players fight a two large scale battles almost back to back and I was constantly stressing over the hit points and initiative order as well. However with this, I can throw in a ton of monsters and foes and just have them die in one hit so that the main focus of the battles, the BBEG, can be the one enemy I can focus all my attention on in combat. Great video!
Started playing with a few buddies of mine again and these are just what I needed to help everyone get eased in to the game quicker. Thank so much for this and cheers to more of what you do!
Creature idea: a creature that rewards taking short rests and having well-timed heals/punishes over extending a character *Bloodthirst:* This creature gains advantage against bloodied targets, this creature has blindsight of x ft. But can only detect bloodied targets The wording is confusing because i'm still kind of new to all of this but idk, sounds cool thematically and mechanic wise
My flanking rule gives the enemy a -2 to AC and disadvantage on DEX checks. This allows ranged and magic users a bonus to their allies taking up good positions.
Is there a functional difference between +2 to hit and -2 to enemy AC? Also, imho, ranged spellcasters/archers have an inherent advantage because of how far away they can be, and flanking as a melee buff gives melee classes an edge that they otherwise wouldn’t have. But that’s just my personal experience from my play group (who built a lot of characters for abusing gimmicks during one shots).
@@georgedenny9446 Only in description. "With the enemy flanked you find it easy to shoot into combat with your ally and score a hit." Vs. "With the enemy flanked he can't defend himself from your shot." Also keep in mind in a melee both parties are moving around, you could accidentally shoot your ally.
@@georgedenny9446 Well it could. If I understand it right. +2 to hit would give the people in melee a higher chance to hit. That's it. But with a -2 to AC (be it from having less room to move or whatever being flanked would do. Hence the DEX disadvantage) it would mean it is harder to dodge. So ranged attacks would ALSO benefit from this by attacking someone with less AC. TL;DR +2 benefits melee, -2 benefits all
Because certain features like barbarian criticals add one extra weapon die as opposed to weapon dice, making the greataxe better then 2H Sword for critical hits. This was intentional.
was taking notes the entire time! great ideas for people like me who've only played 5e and dont know about these hidden gems from editions past Love your work!
new criticals will only make your damages dealing players better at what they already are good at. while the monk and fighters will still be left in the dust by adding only 2 or 3 points of damage overall to their damages. its not worth it. potions... using them as a bonus action is better. as it makes potions matters, if you give your players a choice of potion or damage dealing, they will always choose the later. making the ruling not worth the trouble. it is using their action for it that stops them from doing it from the get go. not the fact it heals little. healing is healing, every points count. not to metnion you'll make your players too much unkillable if you maximise potions. flanking is a nice one, but it makes positioning a must in the strategy game and it makes for quite stupid combat where everyone just try to flank everybody. makes positionning too strong to begin with. not to mention it completely nullfies the barbarian ability reckless attacks. what good is it if the barbarian never uses it. bloodied... no just no... if you cannot describe the hits of your players, then i believe you have a problem as a DM. if you really need to give them a cue that they have hurt the creature, then tell them their sword actually start cutting across that armor or that a satisfying crack was heard when that maul hit the monster. also, hit points are not a visual representation of how badly hurt you are... it is a representation of how heroic you can still be while being badly hurt. if you need visual representation, i suggest you take the shadowrun system of hit points where you get injuries as you get hit and only certain injuries can be healed. that system is a much better system of hit points to represent something. the DMG also has the injury table you need. just adapt the system to your need. minions makes no sense whatsoever... what if your players have fought a baby dragon before... now they are 10 levels above and their abilities can already kill the same dragon. why are you even diminishing that dragon further by removing his hit points and endurance more when leveling of the game already compensated for that one ? it just makes no sense. creatures don'T suddently get weaker because another monster is their boss.
Instead of "bloodied", we generally use a "green-yellow-orange-red" shorthand for how damaged an opponent is. It's definitely nice to have some meaningful feedback about whether your attacks are having an effect (without requiring the DM to describe in detail each and every wound that's inflicted).
This isn't a bad idea but I think I might leave out any distinctions between 50% and 100%. It _should_ take a while for the players to get a handle on how hard something will be to kill, and telling them "you've hit 25% damage" is more information than I want to divulge. Having more shades of "beat up" is useful though, so they don't blow big spells or buffed attacks on creatures that are ready to keel over. As for describing each hit -- I don't, unless I need to reveal things like resistance or immunity by saying "that didn't do as much damage as you would expect".
A really nice House Rule I use that is really simple and it's only for role-play is: Whenever you take a critical damage you get a scar. This helps to remember the thought fights you faced and can lead to really fun interactions with players and NPCs.
My GM does something similar to this, but instead applies it to Pathfinder's mass damage. Any damage you take from mass damage leaves a scar that can't be healed without some SERIOUS healing magic. Our rogue, for example, is most likely always going to have a scar through her shoulder where she took 4x scythe damage from a flesh golem.
One houserule my table has enjoyed for quite some time now is doing half damage on hitting ac exactly. It might be just us, but having 17 ac and getting fully hit by a 17 always felt a little weird.
It reminds me of something in Pillars of Eternity (a cRPG) that uses Grazes. So I guess you just say that hitting the AC exactly, or hitting the saving throw value exactly, means that it's a Graze, rather than just a straight hit or miss.
We use that house rule at the gaming store I play at. Personally, I actually like the idea that as long as you connect, you can do a reasonable amount of damage; however, I understand why others might disagree.
For potions, I like the house rule I've ran with: my vendors typically sell three different types of potions. All three of these can be scaled up or down to "lesser healing, greater healing, etc" standards. - Non-Combat Potions that take five uninterrupted minutes of "drinking" to take into effect, and therefore can't ever be used during initiative combat. These heal the most amount of damage for the least amount of cost. I typically have these potions heal double the hit points that a "normal" potion would heal for a PC at their respective level. If you find the term "Non-Combat Potion" to be immersion-breaking, there are dozens of other terms you can refer to it by-but I personally like the straight-to-the-point language that ensures the player never forgets which is which. - Battle Potions that are basically the same thing as any current potion. Takes 1 action to consume during initiative combat, heals whatever amount is standard to your PC's respective levels. - Bonus Potions typically heal half the amount of a Battle Potion, but can be consumed as a bonus action. Sometimes I'll make it humorous by making these like nicotine patches or some other comical way to illustrate how these could be consumed as a bonus action. But either way, these are always the most expensive type of potion a vendor will sell for obvious reasons. I like giving my players the option to play the way they want to, and this system makes sure that players who prefer bonus action potions can play that way at a price-while players that prefer being more conservative can also do so without losing out on PC efficiency.
I played AD&D with my friend's dad for a couple years - they used healing paste as the non combat potion. It took time to apply to wounds and to bind with bandages, but was cost effective and healed more than a standard potion (but not a greater healing potion, but those were rare.)
The way we are doing flanking is adding a d4 to the attack, it seems to be working pretty well, but +2 is basically taking the average of that so I do like that too.
I really like this. I feel like adding a bunch of +x to stuff in 5E kind of gets away from its design, but adding a minor die roll feels more consistent with the rest of the 5E rules. I think for many it's easier to remember which die to roll than it is to remember a numerical bonus. I'm about to DM my first campaign and don't plan to use flanking, but imma keep this d4 idea in my back pocket for later. Thanks!
I think it is also more fun to the players to get to roll and extra die, even if the average is the same, there is a chance it will be higher, but not as powerful as advantage.
@@stephencarmickle I've always done advantage on flanking, I feel like the +1d4(2) to hit would be more consistent and rewarding. Often I've seen people roll 2 off of a hit and their advantage roll only went up 1 point.
I'm a brand new DM. Haven't played since 1e. Getting up to speed on 5e and dungeon mastering. Love 5e so far. Really like these house rule suggestions. Glad I discovered your channel. Thanks.
In my games, dropping to zero hp gives a level of exhaustion once you get back up (so that death saves are not affected right away). It prevents multiples healing words to be too effective and creates more tension and consequences when a player drops.
I tried this. I found it meant the players rested a lot more. Encounters per day went way down. It actually had the perverse effect of them being in better average condition because they refused to continue when only moderately beat down since going down would inflict such a large penalty. And then when it did happen -- forget it, they're gonna put up a Tiny Hut and long rest, even if that is a few hours after the LAST long rest. They'll sit there and play cards all day inside of ritually cast Tiny Huts rather than travel with exhaustion. Later I made it so that the exhaustion taken on this way is relieved after a _short_ rest, and this got rid of some of the problem, but ultimately I decided that if I was going to keep this rule, the additional exhaustion would go away in a short period of time without intervention, such as ten minutes for each such level (if you drop twice, you'll have two levels for 10 minutes, then 1 level for 10 minutes, then you're good). This increases the risk from going unconscious for the duration of (generally) one combat, without wrecking the rest of the day or even forcing a short rest where one otherwise might not be taken.
@@mal2ksc I get what you're saying, but I have 2 counter points. 1: and most importantly, the rules for long rest explicitly state that a long rest can only be taken once every 24 hours, so it can't be spammed like that. 2: it's really not that hard to counter this kind of behaviour. The hut is not exactly a stealthy thing so it's easy to detect, which means all you have to do is go "hey, the cultists know you are there so no they have a small army surrounding your done and are just standing around you waiting" or there's the old "hey, you're not the only caster with dispell magic" if you are looking at beasts, if there is feasibly a wurm or earth elemental burry the dome. "the massive apes in an attempt to break the hut are gone now, but you are now buried under 30 boulders, once the hut goes down they cave it, partly crushing you, everyone takes 4D10 damage. Also that was a lot of noise, you won't be alone for long" I run a very intense game, once they understand how the game works New Exodus is a unforgiving place. If my players abuse the system, the system pushs back, just like in real life. I make sure to communicate this right away. And if I introduced a system similar to this one I would let them help design it. Somthing like "this is what I'm proposing. I'm willing to take some ideas, but not willing to go below -1 on all D20 rolls per down" usually I'll end up somewhere around a point of Exaustion per down, but with a CON save that has a DC of 10 + 5 per failed death save.
@@morganmarks8725 The idea of "If abusing the system, the system pushes back" was literally what Mike Mearls suggested in one of his many streams when dealing with his players, so I wholeheartedly agree. Players are allowed to abuse the system, but you're God: you can do the same, as long as it doesn't turn into a Player VS Dungeon Master situation.
They weren't spamming long rests. They were burning whole days inside Tiny Huts to wait for long rests. It was a deliberate ploy (and it worked) to counter a new mechanic they did not like with a play style I did not like. I did have them face opposition if they stopped in places with any traffic at all, but they would then backtrack to the last safe place in whatever setting they were doing, and spend all day there before resting. I hadn't really set up time pressures, so I put a second group in there which was jumping their claim. They didn't care -- the other group could take everything and they'd just start in on a new dungeon, as far as they were concerned. The point is that the new mechanic annoyed the players sufficiently for them to essentially mutiny. I eventually got "fired" for not providing the play style they desired, so I would have just accelerated that even further if I had pushed on with the unpopular exhaustion mechanic.
This is by far my favorite video/genre of video that a D&D channel can produce - and yours landed exceptionally well with me! There is absolutely value in discussing rules/magic items/spells, etc. that exist in the book and get a learned opinion about them, but I enjoy hearing those learned opinions talk about the custom ideas they implement at their own tables. I can thoroughly read the Dungeon Master's Guide, but I can't play at your table to know what good ideas you've had!
Absolutely. To players they are the protagonists in this movie, and it only makes sense to give them protag benefits. When my players land a crit I ask them to describe how they do it. I have another house rule: if they fumble with a 1, they are at disadvantage until their next turn. They're caught flat footed etc. It leads to the other players moving to cover and protect each other when a fumble happens.
Andrew Kelly I like that as opposed to hurting themself or their weapon breaking. What experienced sword fighter hits themself on 5% of their cuts? And what sword has a 5% chance of break on each swing? I’m not a historian so maybe there are swords and maces that terrible but I don’t know of any. It only makes sense if your weapons are garbage.
I also tried to this rule, but when I Crit with a full-grown Ramorhaz (67+6d10+7) and insta-killed my barbarian; I decided it was a little over-the-top. I switched to maximum die damage plus double modifier and an added effect for physical and magic attacks.
I've been watching your stuff as a player for a while, but just DM'd did the first time and wanted to say THANK YOU. Holy cow do y'all kill it with the content for every level of play. You rock for real
"Bloodied" is great. Nice, immersive way of letting players know how far into a fight they are. It's also when more cowardly or demoralized enemies might start eyeing the exits--a rout.
I like stealing Savage Worlds "ganging up" for 5e Flanking: Every ally in melee with the same opponent adds +1 to your attack roll. Easy maths right? Nothing game-breaking, it's as easy as it gets to remember, and it makes sense that a foe surrounded is easier to hit. As for healing potions I like the static number, but I also like bonus action healing, so a simple combination is that a Standard action = static number but the bonus action you have to roll (as you may spill a bit).
for that rule on health potions one could use all options for health potions for an action you could drink the health potion and get the full effect BUT you could use a bonus action and roll for it thus represents how much and how fast you can chug a potion before your opponent smashes it or you have to toss it in order to defend yourself
I really like the way you laid out your take on minions. I love that for scenarios where you really want that epic, large scale battle feel for your players.
Ive used the "bloodied" condition as a way to port the concept of boss "phases" to dnd. One of my players' favorite encounter was this elemental myrmidon who powered up when it got bloodied, and i described it as its form grew chaotic and lightning shot out of cracks in its armor.
A former DM would boost some of the stats on boss monsters when they became bloody because that's when they get "serious" about the threat the players pose.
I got this cool d12 with body parts labeled on each side like head, chest, left arm, right leg etc. I roll it on a crit hit and each have their own effects, Stomach causes bleed, arms lower damage, chest lowers ac, head lowers accuracy, and legs lower dex. I also give each their own narrative explination depending on what happened, like head could be a concussion or it could be a cut on the forehead that blurs their vision with blood! Its a fun way to make combat more grounded and exciting while making those crits really hit hard. I might try running it with the crit=max dmg + dmg die but flip a coin or roll a die as to which one happens.
I have the same d12 and couldn't think of any good way of using it. I thought about archer shots being rolled with this, and different damage calculations depending on the body parts hit. For example, extremities like the arms and legs have the least amount of damage. Chest and torso will have higher damage, and headshot is a critical. Your idea is pretty good so I'm using it.
AlchemistGamer I usually make it so they roll as usual. If they get below the average, they take the average instead. This allows everyone to enjoy the thrill of a high HP dice roll without feeling fucked in the long term. It feels amazing to get the max but it’s not worth it at all if you get 1 additional HP.
That makes the average too high. Similar, but more fun: when the player rolls HP, the DM also rolls but in secret. Player can either choose their own roll, or instead take what the DM rolled without knowing what it is. Roll a 5 on a d6? Keep it. Roll a 2 on a d6? Take the DM's, and hope to Pelor that they didn't roll a 1.
My brother-in-law and I have decided on a rule that incorporates constitution bonus into dice roll. Its convoluted, but I like the effect. Basically, the minimum roll you can be stuck with is based on your hit dice and con bonus. d6 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 1) d8 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 2) d10 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 3) d12 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 4)
Krispin Keyes I’m all for letting the dice fall, but I’m a firm believer that HP really isn’t the thing to let the die fall over. A bad roll on an ability check is funny, only getting 1 HP for levelling really fucking sucks in the long run. The player can just take the average anyway. If they’re smart they will always take the average. May as well let them roll and potentially get higher with a safety net. TL;DR The joy of getting a high roll on HP is drastically outweighed by how awful it feels to get a low one.
Thanks so much for playtesting these rules thoroughly before disseminating, and for the timestamps and document in the description! I wish all youtubers did so much research and preparation. +1 sub!
Should have called this video "Five Rules from Fourth Edition D&D That We Liked" Note: This is not meant as a slight; I liked 4e quite a lot. About half of my main group does.
While it's not necessarily a rule, my wife at her table will tell the next player up in initiative that they're 'on deck' so they can start planning their turn. It worked out so well that I started using it and it significantly sped things up with just this one thing. Great video by the way I'm definitely using these
Good stuff! I'm going to share this video with our DM and see if he wants to implement any of these rules. I imagine he will. We used to play a rule that if you roll a "1" on your attack you have to roll again. IF you roll another "1" your weapon breaks. That always strikes fear in the hearts of players when they see a "1" turn up. We started to realize that at higher levels breaking a weapon especially a magical one, or a very well-made one is very rare, and probably more rare than rolling a 1. That was our thinking anyway, so we stopped using it. Great video guys!
My favorite house rule: Roll initiative with 3d6 (instead of d20). Makes init much more valuable for high DEX characters, and init feats more valuable. You can still roll poorly and go last, but thieves and tactical fighters have an advantage, feels good, easy to implement.
I do love the idea of a dragon getting the breath weapon back when it gets bloodied. in my head, a breath weapon is a somewhat uncomfortable process for the dragon, it's basically forced vomitting, so they won't use it unless they need to. once they've hit a bad point of hp, they realise they need to use it, as these adventurers are harder than the previous ones. depending on CR, I might even lock certain abilities behind bloodied, to really ramp up the fight as it gets more and more dangerous (ie, the dragon only uses multi attack, or doesn't use legendary actions until it's bloodied, or it has lair actions UNTIL it's bloodied, to change the dynamic of the fight)
Good rules suggestions. As the old man behind the DMs screen I feel the historian in me pointing out that flanking (+2) and rear (+4) were part of AD&D 1st and 2nd edition as well. I like the potion and bloodied rules as well.
I like the idea, but I also like that not all potions are made/brewed the same. What if it was crafted in haste and not as potent...or came from a goblin cave with not as good conditions to be making potions. Flavor perhaps?
@@trouqe If anything, it gives you a chance to create a new series of healing potions There's the core book ones, and then there's the static ones. It can be tactical (houserule), at the same time that the adventurers may have to take a risk with a poor healing potion (core book)
I think it would make since to use both. A health potion brewed by a master would be static and obviously be more expensive. One brewed by an apprentice would vary but be a cheaper option for your players when their coin purse is getting a little light.
I prefer that rule to potions healing maximum health to drinking potions as a bonus action, but I do like the change to critical hits a lot. The minions rule sounds like it would be fantastic for creating an epic, cinematic clash with a warlords forces or something. I might end up using these rules in my own games, when I start DMing o9n the regular.
The crit rule is exactly the way I houseruled them in my old 3.5 D&D games back when the system was new. I'm happy to see others use that idea too; it really makes crits feel awesome.
My House rule - when my players create a new character, to help further their creativity and allow my players to specialize their characters, they are allow to add a feat.
I do the same, so long as it makes sense for the character build. Last game, one new player made a ranger, and she kept her longbow, but swapped out her two short swords for the sharpshooter feat. She's useless in melee, but deadly at range, even at low level.
@@askcosplaysenpai Thats awesome! My party's ranger is very much the same. His character has a bond with a fighter who is a dualist so this makes up for the ranger's melee. They both work together which I feel helped them make their characters unique. All characters, I feel, should have some soft of disadvantage and rely on others to fill in the gaps of each other.
@@MasterGhostf If it feels unbalanced to you, you can add more frequent enemies, or use something at a higher CR. With a feat specific to their characters' personalities, my players feel powerful and unique without early-game grinding or starting at a higher level, and I never feel the need to pull punches. It also helps out when I'm running a game with a small amount of players. But hey, if it doesn't work at your table, it doesn't work at your table. That's the magic of house rules 👍🏼
good rule, imop...last campaign i ran, i let the players get a free feat at creation...its a game of heroes, sooo, let em feel heroic...but this is from a guy thats been dmin since i got the red box around 1980, i have a good sense of encounter balancin and frequently rebalance mid combat
Regarding Flanking: with my Group, I tried a different rule: when attacking a flanked creature, you get +1 for each creature flanking that creature. This encourages clever positioning and is not as strong as a flat value or Adv.
One rule that I've been using when the combat involves 4 or more monsters of the same type or small groups of different monsters, is to roll one initiative for the whole monster group. Example: The heroes are fighting 4 goblins, 2 Twig Blights and 1 Bugbear. I roll one initiative for the Goblins and one for the Twig Blight group as a whole (And obviously one for the Bugbear). The only exception is if in the middle of the group of monsters I have some chieftain or important character, this one have his initiative rolled separately.
@@HiddenRealm I never said that all the heroes will necessarily go before the monsters and this can happen with rules as written. Having lots of the same monsters acting on different spots, not because of ready actions, but because of rolling makes really confusing for players and DMs to keep track. I speak by experience. Of course I'm not the owner of truth, I'm just sharing what have worked for me and the different groups I've DMed for the past 10 years. Also, this is just for weak large pack of monsters, not leutenants, bosses or special creatures.
I like giving a “Favor Token” that allows a few options during play. It can add +1or +2 to any roll (d2), reroll any one die, gain a burst of health (lvl) (to prevent death, drink a potion or escape), to attack first in any turn....they can gain these tokens by impressing the DM (usually with role playing or story advancement without nudging).
So I got this from possibly misreading the Player's Handbook, but I've kept it in event after I heard it's not the way others play: When leveling up, player characters' max HP increases by the the maximum between the average hit-dice roll and the actual hit dice roll. So like, if your class uses a d10 hit dice, you gain 6 or 1d10 max HP, decided after the roll. It keeps the excitement of rolling a big HP increase, but also doesn't leave players deflated when they roll low.
If my math is right, that raises the average for a D10 character to 7 (6+6+6+6+6+6+7+8+9+10=70 /10=7), D8 is 5.75, D6 is 4.5, and D12 is 8.25. So that is roughly a 15% HP increase per level (not 15% total because of max HP at level 1). Not a huge jump,, but enough that you would need to take it into account. I like the idea though!
I allow the PCs to get a trainer for going up levels. It costs money (10 gp for 2nd level up to 500 gp for 10th.. which is max).. If you spend it, you get advantage on your HD roll.
When moving diagonally on a grid, we use the 10-5 rule instead of the 5-10 rule (basically your first diagonal movement costs you 10 instead of 5.) It's small but it keeps diagonal movement from ALWAYS being the best move, which it otherwise is. We split non-reach melee weapons into short and long categories, with short only able to hit/threaten up-down-sides while long can reach diagonals. Drawing a weapon is your "interact with object" on your turn, whereas dropping something is always free. If you want to quick-switch from your longbow to your shortsword, you have to drop the longbow and draw the shortsword. Picking up an object off the ground while in melee with an opponent triggers an attack of opportunity.
Optional training for levelling (costs gold) but gives ADVantage on HP Die Rolls.... more detailed armor charts (same basic rules).... shields have HP... and simple Crit Hit and Fumble tables (roll 2d6). You could sling your weapon, fall prone, get an extra attack, damage your weapon, et al.
House rule I use for crits: Roll damage as normal, no additional die for the crit, add all modifiers, and then double that. I feel that helps balance out paladin and rogue crits a little better because although the dice roll can be low, they still get their stat bonuses doubled, and it gets rid of the snake eyes roll for a whopping 5 damage.
My bud uses a rule for healing potions I really like, where if they're consumed as a bonus action they have to roll for HP recovery, but if they take one as an action they get max HP.
Thats a good balance between the two ideas. Definitely using that.
Nice, it feels like they hurried to drink that potion and in their haste some of it was spilled.
Definitely using that, great idea!
I think this is an awesome idea! Thanks for sharing!
Using it!
“Why did you put twenty-four Tiamats on the board”
“They’re minion Tiamats. No guys, don’t leave, they don’t even have Legendary Actions!”
Wait wait wait
1hp for each head?
@@silverpact1008 You do not specify!
I cast magic missile at 7th level and twin it....
@@larryvickers2480 You can only twin a spell that targets only one creature. Since magic missile can target multiple creatures, it can't be twinned. Same goes for spells with an AoE or spells with a range of self.
@@InviWasTaken This is rules as written, you can always allow it in your home game.
My favorite House Rule
Stealth - Stealth checks are not made at the moment when a character decides to be sneaky, instead it is made at any moment when they could reasonably be discovered.
This solves so many issues with stealth. It prevents players from being overly brazen when they know they rolled well on their stealth (or the opposite), and it allows for a lot of situational modifiers to be made to the roll because you know the exact circumstances at the moment when they could be noticed, rather than have it just be some catch-all roll.
I find that it breaks my players out of the mindset that a high stealth roll means they're basically invisible until they decide not to be.
I try to run Stealth this way as well -- the check is made when detection is possible.
Personally, I feel this is how it should be. A stealth roll isn't needed when a player is trying to be stealthy if there's nothing around to detect them.
Think of it like this:
Player: "I'm going to sneak through the woods." (Rolls a successful stealth check.)
DM (knowing there's nothing around for miles): "Okay. The forest doesn't know you're there!"
@@DungeonDudes The main problem with Stealth in 5e - from my perspective as a new player - is that it's extremely unclear how useful the "Hide" action is supposed to be in combat. The rules describe that it's supposed to be somewhat "realistic" and that simply hiding behind your half orc ally without moving will not give your halfling the "unseen attacker" advantage on the next attack roll - but other than those blatant cases, it seems to be completely up to DM discretion.
While DM discretion can be fine, I could see this leading to lots of finicky situations at the table and potential fights over "how obscured" a character is when hiding or "how distracted" that adult dragon is by the barbarian hacking its ankles. It just seems not worth it, despite seemingly being a core feature of the Rogue.
@@Nr4747 There are loads of arguments all around the internet about this very subject. I am not even going to try and go into it here, but opinions vary wildly, and it's really something you should discuss with your group before playing a rogue.
At my table, if a rogue makes a reasonable attempt at making their next attack come from a surprising place after hiding, I'll give them advantage. If they are just going to try and duck behind the same pillar/corner over and over, it's not going to fool anything that has enough intelligence to understand object permanence. But there are groups out there that do allow that, and that's OK, too. We are here because of a video about house rules, after all.
It should be done this way. Every person who has ever tried to sneak around always THOUGHT they succeeded. They never KNEW however until they got caught or didnt
My favorite Homebrew: grazes - when attack roll or check is shy by 1 point ( the character rolls a 16 when they need a 17 to succeed) they succeed at a penalty. In combat, they would hit, but do half damage. When picking a lock, they would succeed, but trigger an unseen trap. When being stealthy, they would remain unseen, but the guard knows someone is there and begins searching, etc.
I like this a lot!!!
As do I. Interesting, I may employ this at my table.
I do a variant of this where every check has different bands of DC, where the highest return the best results, while lower bands become more mixed. An example with a History check to find out the name of a town where an event took place would be 1-5, no idea; 6-10, cryptic information like "ends with -shire or something"; 11+ I give out the name of the town they're looking for. I imagine this is very common, and it works very well. My players know this is what is happening behind the scenes too, so they feel it is less arbitrary.
Very similar to Dungeon World. 2d6: 6-: Fail and +1 exp. 7-10: Success but with cost. 11+: Unqualified success.
That sounds lame.
Bloodied condition on a "viscious mockery" damage : "You hear the clear and distinctive sound of this Cloud giant's heart breaking to pieces".
You beat a golden dragon with vicious mockery: "you guys are mean, i dont like you guys, i'm out of here *proceeds to leave*
Mathieu Robitaille tbh when I heard the bloodied condition I immediately remembered the sheer amount of times our party has in-fighting, and how my paper-thin half orc Druid would be ‘bloodied’ so often lol
(he’s got like... 20 hp... rolling for hp sucks)
@@thatoneVoidDemon since we're on house rules, there's the average hp set in the PHB and a rule I have in my game if they don't like rolling is every level they can choose the average (on a d10 I think it's 6+CON) but if they roll they MUST take the roll. I find it helps balance it out a bunch as some like the gamble and others want to avoid it.
Skewrz my old Dm used a bit of a home brew version where if you roll under the average you get the average which makes it slightly fairer but lessens the rng of having lower health or something idk
@@cosmit4250 I used to do that in 3.x. I gave my players a choice of (assuming d8s) take 5 or roll, but if you get less than 4, you get 4. Change as appropriate for the hit dice.
Gary Gygax -“The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules.”
Mwahahaha. Rocks fall. Everybody dies.
The guy made Tomb of Horrors. He wants the DMs to know they dont need the rules.
@AllegoryGar Gary shared that with us, the,- "old school", original D&D players and DMs. We already DO know that! It's the players demanding exact rules, to try to undermine the DM! Not to mention, players don't see the DM as THE ultimate, Final, arbiter and referee!
A nice litte house rule in my games is adding your medicine mod to the health you get back on potions, just nice to give something another use
Lvl 12 Human Druid takes the prodigy feat, expertise in medicine, maxed wisdom, drinks potion, gains 2d4 +16 hit points
But at the same time, I like it
@@McGamer103 aye dedicated health potion build sounds pretty cool and you can feed your health potion to others to give them your bonus
I like it but it really doesn’t make any sense in the immersive sense.
Could always just house rule call them healing kits or something similar instead of health potions if you're worried about them breaking immersion. Magical salves that knowing how to apply them makes it more effective than rubbing it everywhere.
Fengar that makes more sense. More sense than a magical potion healing more because you know medicine lll
I hate people being forced into conventional parties, so my house rule is that with a potion you can either use a full action and gain 10hp, or a bonus action and roll. You're either forgoing an attack to carefully drink it, or you're spilling it everywhere.
Roll nat 1* you mostly misses your mouth, it spills up your nose and into your eyes
@@tbohn10cures blindness but making you blind again
@@bramvanderklei4826 nah, it gives you such good eyesight that you can't comprehend it and get a shocked state
@@tbohn10 rolled a nat 1: in your rush you accidentally mistook your poison bottles for healing potions - lucky you mostly missed your mouth! take one point of additional damage haha
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Yo can we get a video fleshing out the minion rule specifically? This seems like the single most useful rule for scaling up encounters and really raising the stakes but I don’t know that I fully understand it
@@krisratliff3157 Simple enough:
You have a bunch of really cool monsters that aren't the big bad. They are thematically cool and level appropriate, but fighting them is a chore. See bandits, goblins, kobolds, etc.
Minions keep all those cool elements, but get 2 really important changes. Change 1: minions only have 1hp so any successful attack defeats them. Change 2: Minions never die to a failed attack or if they make a successful save, even if it would typically do damage.
They keep all their other typical stats (AC, special abilities, modifiers etc). In a 1v1, you might elevate a minion to is normal stats to ensure that a fight has stakes (such as giving full health to a fleeing guard shouting for help so he isn't automatically deleted by the rogue).
haha
This whole video boils down to the simple fact that 4th edition introduced some really cool rules to the game.
Skill Challenges and Minions are my favourite
4E had some really cool things, it just flubbed how classes worked.
House rule: If you don't bring the DM a pint, you go RAW.
When I DM, I can be bribed with food.
What? That's a thing? Haha
Why would you punish yourself?
I like this rule. But as I run L5R lets swap the "pint" for a full hits of sake/plum wine
For my friends everything, for my enemies The Rules!
Our game yesterday implemented the potion and crit rules. They freaking loved it, and I loved how much they loved it. Really took combat to an elevated level, even with a PC dying.
Pack tactics + flanking +5 to attack rolls = OP kobolds. I am totally using this rule to dogpile PC’s with a kobold ambush.
Just unassuming get your players onboard with the flanking rules, like it's not the end of the world. Then suddenly, out of the corner of their eyes...
The Kobold Gang
The advantage on attack rolls statistically is the same as having a +5 to a single roll. So I would stick to advantage when the flanking creatures are more than two, and add a +2 when they are exactly two.
Since we have simplified tactical movement and AoO it's too powerful even with +2 as a bonus.
Kobolds are amazing :D
@@pierluigidipietro8097 actually it's 3.325. average roll is 10.5 while average roll with advantage is 13.825. And the reason I would prefer a flat bonus over advantage is because it doesn't makes all the other sources of advantage meaningless since you can just flank.
The House Rule:
Declare you are using a "Social" Skill/Check, Roll, Determine result....Role Play the Result
Making your slick pick up line then rolling a fail seems kinda lame...rolling a fail and being forced to RP a lame pick up line, that's fun!
the first time I was a DM I had a guy say “Hay momma.” Trying to get a price off his horse
this is good only for experienced players as they could predict where the conversations would go, and most of the time able to deliver a good arguments when it comes to deception or persuation events. this could make the interactions more interesting.
but for new players, what if they got a high roll for deception, and later giving a bad or even a contradictive arguments to npc
@@hayaku95 I think the rp should be optional under that system, if the player can come up with something really good (or laughably bad) then they have the option to entertain the group with it.
I would say as the GM if the pickup line or whatever the rp roll is for is really good I give advantage. And dis if its terrible. Certainly helps avoid that scenario
Remember, you're setting the DC in your head. You can modify it either way without the players ever knowing.
"A professor once told me" the world was gonna roll me, I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
He was looking kinda dumb with his finger and his thumb in the shape. Of an L. On his forehead.
Well years start coming and they don’t stomp coming fed of (?) rules and hit the ground running didn’t make sense not to live for fun
@@primeemperor9196
**"a DM once told me the player's gonna roll me, i ain't the biggest die in the bag"
1:25 Better Criticals
4:31 Better Healing potions
7:02 Flanking revisited
10:44 Bloodied Condition
13:44 The Minion Rule
Thanks, I always hate it when what could be a 5 minute video is spread like too little butter into a twenty minute monstrosity
Also, 11:08 RIP Headphone Users
You are doing gods work.
@@elonwhatever Yeah this whole video could basically just be reduced to like, the screengrabs they have of the rules in text.
And if they wanted a video it could've just been 10 minutes of them explaining each one briefly...
Not really enjoying these guys because of the long-winded overly obvious explinations, and often just bad takes in general on things lmao.
My favorite house rule about health potions combines the two you mentioned in an interesting way. Drinking the health potion takes only a bonus action but you roll the healing. However if you decide to take the time to pour the health potion over whatever wounds you have accumulated it takes your entire action but maximizes the potion's effect.
By this same method your DM can choose to make any type of potion either topical (1 action) or ingested (Bonus Action) depending on how they want them to be used.
About the potion as a bonus action, my DM had a rule that I live concerning potions. You can hold ONE on your belt to be used as a bonus action. All others cost an action. Feels really great to me.
Good one
If you wanna be brutal you could amp that up and make the players roll to rummage thru their bag to see if they even find it
"why did you set a mind flayer on my family"
"you kept talking shit about me under your breath like i wasnt gonna notice"
The reason why Flanking wasn't in the Core Rulebook is because D&D 5e can be played complete in Theater of the Mind. Some DMs, especially new ones, don't have minis to illustrate the battlefield, so it can be difficult to apply that level of tactical complexity to a battlefield situation where not everyone is seeing the same thing in their mind. This isn't a bad thing, just kinder and less demanding to new players and DMs joining the growing D&D community.
I actually use a variation on the minion rule in 5e:
Instead of explicitly 1 hp, I actually give them effectively 1/10 their normal HP value (which, in the grand scheme of high-tier play, is virtually the same given the general damage output of characters, but is more there for the sake of spells like color spray or sleep where HP amount matters), strip them of multiattack while also minimizing their damage (since I already use average damage for regular monsters as is), and have them always act on Initiative Count 10.
In any case though, the critical hit and potion houserules I am definitely taking~
Paul Blank I just go with one hit and any damage roll. The players can’t see their hp anyway
I use a 2 hit rule. Or 1 if 10dmg
i call those minions cannonfodder or one hit wonders, down with one hit.
i start with double the number of party members and if the party killed 3/4 of those one-hit wonders, i keep adding a number equal to the number of party members till the big bruisers are down or are now coz of the partys constitution a challenge on their own without their cannonfodder ;)
Do minions have an xp value?
@@imperiousartifact1473 since they add to the fight i think they should have some but since they are just one hit wonders the value shouldn´t be too high max 50 xp per minion.
i don´t worry about xp since i GM with milestones
I love for the bloodied house rule, if characters are wearing disguises, these disguises often break or become unusable if the character is bloodied.
Another idea is that, if the disguise is physical in nature, the players gain a bonus to deception checks with that faction (basically being able to use the "We've got wounded here, get out of the way" tactic)
I also cut move to half if blooded.
House Rule: Daggers count as ranged weapons/attacks when thrown. If the character throwing the dagger is proficient with daggers (or all Simple Weapons), drawing the dagger counts as part of the attack (akin to drawing an arrow to fire a bow). < This house rule opens up dagger throwing to a number of interesting feats and other options.
It's basically a reskinned Dart as a ranged weapon anyway.
Isn't that a bit expensive?
@@CallenExile yeah, I have a monk PC that uses shuriken instead of darts for more ninja flavor.
That's already how the Thrown property works. "If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw the weapon to make a ranged attack" (PHB 147). RAW, throwing a dagger, javelin, spear, etc all count for features like sharpshooter, for example.
@@jamessimmons9998 RAW they count as ranged attacks, but not ranged weapons
To streamline combat I:
1) Run real life military small unit tactics of ambushs.
2) If a minion takes more than a 1/3 of damage- he will attempt to bolt.
3) If the minions lose more than 20-25% of their numbers they will retreat and attempt an attack later or fully flee.
4) I only roll for successful attacks, and apply a uniform average damage to the PCs, I modify this depending on the scenario and believability.
5)Always break up combat with a complication ex. 2 rounds into combat, one of the npcs takes a hostage, or a fire breaks out and starts spreading, or the bbeg attempts a parlay or starts his evil plan.
6)Diversify your npcs- this forces your group to deal with a goliath, two archers and a cleric. It can really bring out the tactical side of your players.
7) Finally don't be afraid to kill your PCs, but remember your goal is to tell a story, not fight the PCs. Ex. After PC bob takes crit damage, NPCs threaten to finish him unless the group surrunders. Continue the story with them being carted off or being brought before a boss npc, instead of just methodically killing them until they get the bright idea to cut their losses and run.
Great ideas Solo, hope you don’t mind if we steal some of these! I’d say borrow but I’m not giving them back. 😊
Dungeon Class I just checked out your channel. Very nice. I subbed.
@@DungeonClass Go for it bro! Glad I can help you, help others; so we can all have great games.
THIS IS AMAZING. I love more realistic interpretations of combat. Thank you
With crits, I usually ask my players "what makes this attack a critical hit?" and have them describe whatever flashy move they do, then give the enemy penalties or the player characters bonuses depending on what is described. Doing things this way gives crits a satisfying quality to them rather than just "you do a lot of damage" and helps negate the issue of a crit that doesn't do a lot of damage.
My party uses a combination of the two health potion rules. If you drink one as an action, you get the max possible health. If you drink as a bonus action, you out roll as normal. If you feed it to someone else, it's an action and you roll as normal.
Congrats on the channel growth Dudes. It’s well-deserved, these guides are fantastic!
I really like the house rule for flanking we play with. If you flank you get 1.5 Proficiency
Bonus to your melee attack.
So basicly from lvl 1-8 you get +1, from 9-16 you get +2 and from 17-20 you get +3.
The idea is that the more skilled you are the better you are at taking advantage of the flanking. :)
The mook rule from 13th age is also a cool way to do mobs of small weak creatures too imo , the way it works is a group of mooks will share a hp total , a large token , and a stat sheet with say maybe 6 goblins or something making up your mook mob, and basically every time you take off 1/x amount of their total hp so in this example 1/6 of their hp their number of attacks per round goes from 6 to 5 and since a single mook normally has maybe a couple hp your fighter or whatever can feel like a badass when he does 12 damage with his long sword and kills like 3 goblins in a turn whereas with the 1 hp minion rule he can only kill as many as he has attacks per round
Fighters do 4 attacks at 20, 5 with feats/special weapons/certain features. So they can dispatch a group pretty fast. Using both rules might be an interesting idea.
Reminds me of rules for swarms in some systems.You know, rats, snakes, snotlings what-have-you.
Could be a great way of dealing with groups of "trash mobs"
"We teach you all the rules so you know how to break them properly." Definitely sounds like an arts professor.
"When you roll a critical hit, you may choose one die to count as the maximum it can roll" or something would solve the rogue & paladin problem if it is a problem at all.
Or just have the weapon damage be maxed and not the sneak attack/smite dice.
There's just one problem with that. Normally when you crit you double all the dice damage, which means that if you have something like 10 dice it's a lot. Choosing only a die to max would make it feel quite underwhelming, unless I misunderstood something.
I think he means max one die, roll the rest as you normally woukd with a crit. So you still get double the dice, but only one is automatically maxed out.
i dont remember what system i played once but crists were just maximum damage+2 times the relevant modifier so you didnt have to roll nor add too much math a crit from a d8 weapon with a +2 strenght modifier would be 8+4=12 damage, it was enough to feel awesome without using much math nor breaking the game
The simplest critical is simply maximum damage, which is very close to the same value as rolling twice, so does not affect game balance.
Works for rogues & paladins, avoids low damage criticals, and easy to calculate.
To get the exact average, use maximum + 1 per die + any roll critical extras (like half orc savage attacker).
I am new to your site, and I am excited to see more. I wanted to share the one house rule I have been using since the 1980's. There is a book called, Arms Law Claw Law. I believe it was used for a Middle Earth role playing game. In it is a percentile crit chart that is very descriptive, and can lead to additional roleplaying opportunities. When ever a 20 is rolled, a second d-20 is rolled. These carts are broken up into five columns, so when making the second role of 16, 17, 18, 19, or 20, gets you to a better crit. Then role the percentage dice, and get your results. This seem like a lot of rolling, but it only happens once or twice a game session, and the one minute of time turns into a very suspenseful and rememberable moment. We always dbl. the damage, and tripple the damage if a 20, 20 is rolled. The book is worth checking out. thanks.
personally i really like the better crit rule. we fought an ogre recently and it rolled max damage on one crit, instakilling one pc almost and then crited once more dealing less damage than some of the regular hits. of course i liked not beeing the next one to get smashed but it didnt really feel like a crit.
@JoeRingo118 Barbarians do crazy damage, and even if they didn't they still take half damage from most attacks combined with a gigantic health pool and advantage on dexterity saving throws. The last thing they need is more damage.
I run a pretty high magic setting. And it seems to be really easy for my full casters to just load up on spells that are pure damage, so they ignore a lot of low end buff/utility spells. So I house ruled that cantrips can be casted as bonus actions so long as they don't cause damage or conditions to enemies. Suddenly my players started taking True Strike to help out martial players and other spells that lean more towards flavor rather than power. It might not work at every table, but it makes my casters less glass cannon and more magical swiss army knife.
My group is made up of DMs. We all tweak our games. Flanking is something we’ve been doing for 30 years. I like the minions and bloodied rules. We all tend to be descriptive and have done something similar to the bloodied rule. I like the activation of special abilities with it. Makes sense. Good video!
any other notable houserules you guys have picked up over the years?
Intelligence is usually the least useful stat, so I let players add their INT modifier to ability checks (in addition to the main ability) if they describe a particularly precise or clever way to perform the action. For example they make a perception check and describe exactly what they're looking for they get d20 + perception + INT; if they try to pickpocket someone and describe how they slip a dummy item in to replace the stolen one they get d20 + sleight of hand + INT.
On the critical hit subject: I usually mix your approach of maximizing the hit die and add to the roll with exploding die. For example: If the aforementioned fighter crits, he deals 8 + 1d8 + STR, but he can roll another 1d8 if he rolls an 8. And he would keep rolling as long as the result was 8. On one hand it gives harder hitting weapons a lower probability of exploding, on the other in my head it represents the situation better. It is easier for a rogue to connect a dagger to someone's neck, than a barbarian doing the same while swinging a greataxe. Therefore, a dagger "explodes" easier on crits than a greataxe. They both deal a lot of damage on crits, but the dagger is marginally better on average. Nice video!
How do you handle greatswords?
this is the open-ended philosopy used in Rolemaster. It works either way, tough, and the players have to agree and accept that a wimp monster having a 1d4 dagger could slay them if he is lucky enough
@@rfjohnson69 on a crit: 2d6 + 12 + STR, and each d6 you get a 6 you can roll it again (the exploding rule is per die)
They just got to remember they can be one-shot by the most trivial monsters if they get really unlucky
It may be better to on a crit change that to have the damage fall on a geometric distribution of maximum number on a die*X~geometric(1/maximum number on die)+final roll that doesn’t get that maximum number+ dex +strength.
Similar in allowing hypothetically infinite damage from a crit (makes sense for slitting a throat), and better than just adding 8+dex at the start as it forces a weapon attacker to invest in strength if they want good critical hits (strength is something you need to pull back a bow string and so forth).
Critical Damage House Rule:
A) Max DMG + 1dx + mods
AND/OR
B) If crit dmg is lowest possible, DM applies some other debilitating effect to victim as if it was a “hidden” injury or effect. For ex: bleeding 1dx/round, slowed (ie, as if hamstrung), AC -1 (due to damaged armor or shield, as if a leather strap was cut so not as effective), or Dmg die - x (ie, they can’t hit as hard since a critical muscle/tendon damaged), etc
The Minion house rule is something I will definitely use in my next campaign - so much easier than tracking many creatures hp.
one of my favorite rules so far are Spell Points, found in 3.5 Unearthed Arcana page 153
i just love how much freedom that rule gives to spellcasters without completely breaking them, you still have to make a list of prepared spells but you can spend your "MP" however you want
I favor this rule as well, it makes it easier to handle spellcasting than the spell-slot system for me.
Bloodied was an old 4e rule I really missed. I completely agree that it's a great descriptive tool as a dungeon master and it's one I naturally brought over when I transitioned my players to 5e. Great video guys.
Minions not making it back into 5e also surprised me.
shouldn't... it was largely criticised because of how stupid it made monsters look. it may have made the game easier on DMs who preffer a more cinematic style of game play. but it made strickly no sense strategically for the players who wanted real battle. exemple... that ogre you fought when you were level 4 was no slouch... now because someone is his boss, he suddently lost all will to fight and lost all his endurance by suddently becoming a 1 hit point slime bag ? that creature evolved too, it didn't stay that way you know. plus your leveling up already compensated for the damage dealing, making him easier to kill. there is no need to make him even weaker by removing the only thing that made him formidable to begin with. it makes no sense for any world to have monions... removing a few HP off a creature because keeping a monster at 3 hp is useless, is a thing you can easily do... but removing 100 hp from a monster because he has a boss is strickly bullshit.
Maximized. The keyword you are looking for is Maximized. Crits are maximized. Healing Potions are maximized. :)
Two that I personally like:
1) When using the Careful Spell metamagic, instead of giving advantage to your allies on the saving throw, the spell warps around them, protecting them from it's effects. Makes better use of those sorcery points.
2) Barbarian Rage ends when the Barbarian doesn't attack or take damage? How about Rage ending if the Barbarian takes a non-aggressive action, such as running away, using a potion or hiding? If the Barbarian is raging and can see it's target, but can't get to it in one turn, why would they suddenly calm down? Wouldn't they continue to chase down the target as angrily as possible? So, if the Barbarian is actively trying to attack a target, whether it gets the hit or not, it should continue to rage. If it stops trying to attack for any reason, then the rage ends.
I like the idea for the careful spell. As far as Barbarian rages, a rule that you can inflict 1hp damage to yourself to keep it going
@@josephdellavecchia7828 I don't see the point of a barbarian hurting themselves to keep the rage going... mechanical, sure, but from a narrative standpoint, if the barbarian is charging at their enemy head-on and they just can't reach them in one round of combat, why would they suddenly be less angry? The way I see it, they should continue to be angry and laser-focused on that target. If they do anything that requires more thought than "CHARGE! KILL! GRAAAH!", then sure, the rage can end. Down a potion, rage ends. Hide, disengage to run away, rage ends. But if you're running full-tilt at something you want to kill? Rage should keep going even if you can't make it. It just makes sense logically.
@@SilverFoxR overall I really like your idea again I'll probably go to that instead I was just offering a different ruling
I don't understand your suggestion for the Careful Spell metamagic.
" A chosen creature automatically succeeds on its saving throw against the spell."
It already does, by RAW, exactly what you want it to do.
Elliott Petersen Succeeding on a saving throw doesn't necessarily eliminate a spell's effects. Especially at high levels, 'half-damage on a successful save' is extremely common.
The minion house rule is so brilliant! I've just recently had my players fight a two large scale battles almost back to back and I was constantly stressing over the hit points and initiative order as well. However with this, I can throw in a ton of monsters and foes and just have them die in one hit so that the main focus of the battles, the BBEG, can be the one enemy I can focus all my attention on in combat.
Great video!
Started playing with a few buddies of mine again and these are just what I needed to help everyone get eased in to the game quicker. Thank so much for this and cheers to more of what you do!
Creature idea: a creature that rewards taking short rests and having well-timed heals/punishes over extending a character
*Bloodthirst:* This creature gains advantage against bloodied targets, this creature has blindsight of x ft. But can only detect bloodied targets
The wording is confusing because i'm still kind of new to all of this but idk, sounds cool thematically and mechanic wise
That’s so baller!!!
My flanking rule gives the enemy a -2 to AC and disadvantage on DEX checks. This allows ranged and magic users a bonus to their allies taking up good positions.
Which is a good way to tackle it, as you are spreading you attention over two opposite foes, your guard can't be as good as normal.
Is there a functional difference between +2 to hit and -2 to enemy AC?
Also, imho, ranged spellcasters/archers have an inherent advantage because of how far away they can be, and flanking as a melee buff gives melee classes an edge that they otherwise wouldn’t have. But that’s just my personal experience from my play group (who built a lot of characters for abusing gimmicks during one shots).
@@georgedenny9446 Only in description. "With the enemy flanked you find it easy to shoot into combat with your ally and score a hit." Vs. "With the enemy flanked he can't defend himself from your shot." Also keep in mind in a melee both parties are moving around, you could accidentally shoot your ally.
@@georgedenny9446 Well it could. If I understand it right. +2 to hit would give the people in melee a higher chance to hit. That's it. But with a -2 to AC (be it from having less room to move or whatever being flanked would do. Hence the DEX disadvantage) it would mean it is harder to dodge. So ranged attacks would ALSO benefit from this by attacking someone with less AC.
TL;DR +2 benefits melee, -2 benefits all
“A legendary minion is a strange idea”
*Megalovania intensifies*
Who knew Sans' greatest weakness was Magic Missle?
House Rule: Crit equals max dmg, plus one extra D. Easy! Why isn't this an obvious thing yet?
more dice = more fun
@@themuch21 Yes, we loves the more dices! :)
Because certain features like barbarian criticals add one extra weapon die as opposed to weapon dice, making the greataxe better then 2H Sword for critical hits. This was intentional.
My crew has been playing this very mod for crits for 3+ years - do it!
@@smbakeresq can you elaborate, please? I'm not sure how the homebrew changes the balancing.
was taking notes the entire time! great ideas for people like me who've only played 5e and dont know about these hidden gems from editions past
Love your work!
Wow, all five rules are actually very interesting, thought out, and balanced. Will definitely use them (some or all) in my next campaign! :D
I really like the rules for the health position and critical hits. Thank you.
Nice to see you guys running these widely used homebrews.....I love taking awesome things from 4e....you dudes continue to set the standard cheers
This was well done, gentlemen. I skipped 4E, and I would have never known about these rules without this video. Thanks!
This has been my favorite video so far. I feel like I’d love to implement at least 3 or 4 of these mods right now.
new criticals will only make your damages dealing players better at what they already are good at. while the monk and fighters will still be left in the dust by adding only 2 or 3 points of damage overall to their damages. its not worth it.
potions... using them as a bonus action is better. as it makes potions matters, if you give your players a choice of potion or damage dealing, they will always choose the later. making the ruling not worth the trouble. it is using their action for it that stops them from doing it from the get go. not the fact it heals little. healing is healing, every points count. not to metnion you'll make your players too much unkillable if you maximise potions.
flanking is a nice one, but it makes positioning a must in the strategy game and it makes for quite stupid combat where everyone just try to flank everybody. makes positionning too strong to begin with. not to mention it completely nullfies the barbarian ability reckless attacks. what good is it if the barbarian never uses it.
bloodied... no just no... if you cannot describe the hits of your players, then i believe you have a problem as a DM. if you really need to give them a cue that they have hurt the creature, then tell them their sword actually start cutting across that armor or that a satisfying crack was heard when that maul hit the monster. also, hit points are not a visual representation of how badly hurt you are... it is a representation of how heroic you can still be while being badly hurt. if you need visual representation, i suggest you take the shadowrun system of hit points where you get injuries as you get hit and only certain injuries can be healed. that system is a much better system of hit points to represent something. the DMG also has the injury table you need. just adapt the system to your need.
minions makes no sense whatsoever... what if your players have fought a baby dragon before... now they are 10 levels above and their abilities can already kill the same dragon. why are you even diminishing that dragon further by removing his hit points and endurance more when leveling of the game already compensated for that one ? it just makes no sense. creatures don'T suddently get weaker because another monster is their boss.
my group's house rule is just double the damage on the dice when getting a crit, it makes combat move so much quicker
Instead of "bloodied", we generally use a "green-yellow-orange-red" shorthand for how damaged an opponent is. It's definitely nice to have some meaningful feedback about whether your attacks are having an effect (without requiring the DM to describe in detail each and every wound that's inflicted).
Interesting at what point do you let your players know the colors?
@@josephdellavecchia7828 probably 0-25% = red
26%-50% orange
51%-75% yellow
76%-100 green
This isn't a bad idea but I think I might leave out any distinctions between 50% and 100%. It _should_ take a while for the players to get a handle on how hard something will be to kill, and telling them "you've hit 25% damage" is more information than I want to divulge. Having more shades of "beat up" is useful though, so they don't blow big spells or buffed attacks on creatures that are ready to keel over.
As for describing each hit -- I don't, unless I need to reveal things like resistance or immunity by saying "that didn't do as much damage as you would expect".
@@jakestavinsky3480 that is what i figured but just confirming. Thank you
A really nice House Rule I use that is really simple and it's only for role-play is:
Whenever you take a critical damage you get a scar. This helps to remember the thought fights you faced and can lead to really fun interactions with players and NPCs.
My GM does something similar to this, but instead applies it to Pathfinder's mass damage. Any damage you take from mass damage leaves a scar that can't be healed without some SERIOUS healing magic. Our rogue, for example, is most likely always going to have a scar through her shoulder where she took 4x scythe damage from a flesh golem.
One houserule my table has enjoyed for quite some time now is doing half damage on hitting ac exactly. It might be just us, but having 17 ac and getting fully hit by a 17 always felt a little weird.
That does make sense.
I also use that house rule.
It's also easy to explain to new players.
A "glancing hit" easy :)
It reminds me of something in Pillars of Eternity (a cRPG) that uses Grazes. So I guess you just say that hitting the AC exactly, or hitting the saving throw value exactly, means that it's a Graze, rather than just a straight hit or miss.
We use that house rule at the gaming store I play at. Personally, I actually like the idea that as long as you connect, you can do a reasonable amount of damage; however, I understand why others might disagree.
For potions, I like the house rule I've ran with: my vendors typically sell three different types of potions. All three of these can be scaled up or down to "lesser healing, greater healing, etc" standards.
- Non-Combat Potions that take five uninterrupted minutes of "drinking" to take into effect, and therefore can't ever be used during initiative combat. These heal the most amount of damage for the least amount of cost. I typically have these potions heal double the hit points that a "normal" potion would heal for a PC at their respective level. If you find the term "Non-Combat Potion" to be immersion-breaking, there are dozens of other terms you can refer to it by-but I personally like the straight-to-the-point language that ensures the player never forgets which is which.
- Battle Potions that are basically the same thing as any current potion. Takes 1 action to consume during initiative combat, heals whatever amount is standard to your PC's respective levels.
- Bonus Potions typically heal half the amount of a Battle Potion, but can be consumed as a bonus action. Sometimes I'll make it humorous by making these like nicotine patches or some other comical way to illustrate how these could be consumed as a bonus action. But either way, these are always the most expensive type of potion a vendor will sell for obvious reasons.
I like giving my players the option to play the way they want to, and this system makes sure that players who prefer bonus action potions can play that way at a price-while players that prefer being more conservative can also do so without losing out on PC efficiency.
I played AD&D with my friend's dad for a couple years - they used healing paste as the non combat potion. It took time to apply to wounds and to bind with bandages, but was cost effective and healed more than a standard potion (but not a greater healing potion, but those were rare.)
Love it
I love this
The way we are doing flanking is adding a d4 to the attack, it seems to be working pretty well, but +2 is basically taking the average of that so I do like that too.
I really like this. I feel like adding a bunch of +x to stuff in 5E kind of gets away from its design, but adding a minor die roll feels more consistent with the rest of the 5E rules. I think for many it's easier to remember which die to roll than it is to remember a numerical bonus. I'm about to DM my first campaign and don't plan to use flanking, but imma keep this d4 idea in my back pocket for later. Thanks!
I think the +2 was to hit, no?
I think it is also more fun to the players to get to roll and extra die, even if the average is the same, there is a chance it will be higher, but not as powerful as advantage.
@@KageSama19 Yes, it is to hit, not damage.
@@stephencarmickle I've always done advantage on flanking, I feel like the +1d4(2) to hit would be more consistent and rewarding. Often I've seen people roll 2 off of a hit and their advantage roll only went up 1 point.
I'm a brand new DM. Haven't played since 1e. Getting up to speed on 5e and dungeon mastering. Love 5e so far. Really like these house rule suggestions. Glad I discovered your channel. Thanks.
In my games, dropping to zero hp gives a level of exhaustion once you get back up (so that death saves are not affected right away). It prevents multiples healing words to be too effective and creates more tension and consequences when a player drops.
I tried this. I found it meant the players rested a lot more. Encounters per day went way down. It actually had the perverse effect of them being in better average condition because they refused to continue when only moderately beat down since going down would inflict such a large penalty. And then when it did happen -- forget it, they're gonna put up a Tiny Hut and long rest, even if that is a few hours after the LAST long rest. They'll sit there and play cards all day inside of ritually cast Tiny Huts rather than travel with exhaustion.
Later I made it so that the exhaustion taken on this way is relieved after a _short_ rest, and this got rid of some of the problem, but ultimately I decided that if I was going to keep this rule, the additional exhaustion would go away in a short period of time without intervention, such as ten minutes for each such level (if you drop twice, you'll have two levels for 10 minutes, then 1 level for 10 minutes, then you're good). This increases the risk from going unconscious for the duration of (generally) one combat, without wrecking the rest of the day or even forcing a short rest where one otherwise might not be taken.
Psssst, negative HP, solves the healing word issue without punishing players for getting critted.
@@mal2ksc I get what you're saying, but I have 2 counter points. 1: and most importantly, the rules for long rest explicitly state that a long rest can only be taken once every 24 hours, so it can't be spammed like that.
2: it's really not that hard to counter this kind of behaviour. The hut is not exactly a stealthy thing so it's easy to detect, which means all you have to do is go "hey, the cultists know you are there so no they have a small army surrounding your done and are just standing around you waiting" or there's the old "hey, you're not the only caster with dispell magic" if you are looking at beasts, if there is feasibly a wurm or earth elemental burry the dome. "the massive apes in an attempt to break the hut are gone now, but you are now buried under 30 boulders, once the hut goes down they cave it, partly crushing you, everyone takes 4D10 damage. Also that was a lot of noise, you won't be alone for long"
I run a very intense game, once they understand how the game works New Exodus is a unforgiving place. If my players abuse the system, the system pushs back, just like in real life. I make sure to communicate this right away. And if I introduced a system similar to this one I would let them help design it. Somthing like "this is what I'm proposing. I'm willing to take some ideas, but not willing to go below -1 on all D20 rolls per down" usually I'll end up somewhere around a point of Exaustion per down, but with a CON save that has a DC of 10 + 5 per failed death save.
@@morganmarks8725 The idea of "If abusing the system, the system pushes back" was literally what Mike Mearls suggested in one of his many streams when dealing with his players, so I wholeheartedly agree. Players are allowed to abuse the system, but you're God: you can do the same, as long as it doesn't turn into a Player VS Dungeon Master situation.
They weren't spamming long rests. They were burning whole days inside Tiny Huts to wait for long rests. It was a deliberate ploy (and it worked) to counter a new mechanic they did not like with a play style I did not like. I did have them face opposition if they stopped in places with any traffic at all, but they would then backtrack to the last safe place in whatever setting they were doing, and spend all day there before resting. I hadn't really set up time pressures, so I put a second group in there which was jumping their claim. They didn't care -- the other group could take everything and they'd just start in on a new dungeon, as far as they were concerned.
The point is that the new mechanic annoyed the players sufficiently for them to essentially mutiny. I eventually got "fired" for not providing the play style they desired, so I would have just accelerated that even further if I had pushed on with the unpopular exhaustion mechanic.
This is by far my favorite video/genre of video that a D&D channel can produce - and yours landed exceptionally well with me! There is absolutely value in discussing rules/magic items/spells, etc. that exist in the book and get a learned opinion about them, but I enjoy hearing those learned opinions talk about the custom ideas they implement at their own tables. I can thoroughly read the Dungeon Master's Guide, but I can't play at your table to know what good ideas you've had!
instantly agreed on the critical house rule
Absolutely. To players they are the protagonists in this movie, and it only makes sense to give them protag benefits. When my players land a crit I ask them to describe how they do it.
I have another house rule: if they fumble with a 1, they are at disadvantage until their next turn. They're caught flat footed etc. It leads to the other players moving to cover
and protect each other when a fumble happens.
Andrew Kelly I like that as opposed to hurting themself or their weapon breaking. What experienced sword fighter hits themself on 5% of their cuts? And what sword has a 5% chance of break on each swing? I’m not a historian so maybe there are swords and maces that terrible but I don’t know of any.
It only makes sense if your weapons are garbage.
Me 2
Yeah it really sucks when you get a low roll on a crit
I also tried to this rule, but when I Crit with a full-grown Ramorhaz (67+6d10+7) and insta-killed my barbarian; I decided it was a little over-the-top. I switched to maximum die damage plus double modifier and an added effect for physical and magic attacks.
I've been watching your stuff as a player for a while, but just DM'd did the first time and wanted to say THANK YOU. Holy cow do y'all kill it with the content for every level of play. You rock for real
Love the minion rule. Makes players feel amazing blowing through 10-20 in single turns!
"Bloodied" is great. Nice, immersive way of letting players know how far into a fight they are. It's also when more cowardly or demoralized enemies might start eyeing the exits--a rout.
I like stealing Savage Worlds "ganging up" for 5e Flanking:
Every ally in melee with the same opponent adds +1 to your attack roll. Easy maths right? Nothing game-breaking, it's as easy as it gets to remember, and it makes sense that a foe surrounded is easier to hit.
As for healing potions I like the static number, but I also like bonus action healing, so a simple combination is that a Standard action = static number but the bonus action you have to roll (as you may spill a bit).
Two very good suggestions!
The ganging up might be a bit too strong, but I'm definitely using that Healing Potion idea.
For mass combat, a swarm of Kobolds get's really threatening when they're all using the help or aid another action.
Savage worlds is so often brilliant, I love the gang up rule. I have no idea why I have never implemented it in D&D.
Great video! So much to unpack. The minion talk at the end was very useful. Keep up the great work.
for that rule on health potions
one could use all options for health potions
for an action you could drink the health potion and get the full effect
BUT you could use a bonus action and roll for it thus represents how much and how fast you can chug a potion before your opponent smashes it or you have to toss it in order to defend yourself
Sawtooth44 I had the same thought as they were talking about it! I love this idea
I really like the way you laid out your take on minions. I love that for scenarios where you really want that epic, large scale battle feel for your players.
Ive used the "bloodied" condition as a way to port the concept of boss "phases" to dnd. One of my players' favorite encounter was this elemental myrmidon who powered up when it got bloodied, and i described it as its form grew chaotic and lightning shot out of cracks in its armor.
A former DM would boost some of the stats on boss monsters when they became bloody because that's when they get "serious" about the threat the players pose.
So you were playing Bloodborne
@@Hypercat0 never played that game, so no idea. Borrowed the mechanic from raid bosses
I got this cool d12 with body parts labeled on each side like head, chest, left arm, right leg etc. I roll it on a crit hit and each have their own effects, Stomach causes bleed, arms lower damage, chest lowers ac, head lowers accuracy, and legs lower dex. I also give each their own narrative explination depending on what happened, like head could be a concussion or it could be a cut on the forehead that blurs their vision with blood! Its a fun way to make combat more grounded and exciting while making those crits really hit hard.
I might try running it with the crit=max dmg + dmg die but flip a coin or roll a die as to which one happens.
I just picked up that d12 today. From Q Workshop? It was bigger than I expected and will be cool on the table.
I have the same d12 and couldn't think of any good way of using it. I thought about archer shots being rolled with this, and different damage calculations depending on the body parts hit. For example, extremities like the arms and legs have the least amount of damage. Chest and torso will have higher damage, and headshot is a critical.
Your idea is pretty good so I'm using it.
My 5e house rule: Roll Hit Points when leveling with advantage.
AlchemistGamer I usually make it so they roll as usual. If they get below the average, they take the average instead.
This allows everyone to enjoy the thrill of a high HP dice roll without feeling fucked in the long term. It feels amazing to get the max but it’s not worth it at all if you get 1 additional HP.
That makes the average too high.
Similar, but more fun: when the player rolls HP, the DM also rolls but in secret. Player can either choose their own roll, or instead take what the DM rolled without knowing what it is.
Roll a 5 on a d6? Keep it. Roll a 2 on a d6? Take the DM's, and hope to Pelor that they didn't roll a 1.
Same, it works great
My brother-in-law and I have decided on a rule that incorporates constitution bonus into dice roll.
Its convoluted, but I like the effect.
Basically, the minimum roll you can be stuck with is based on your hit dice and con bonus.
d6 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 1)
d8 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 2)
d10 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 3)
d12 can reroll any dice roll up to con bonus (max of 4)
Krispin Keyes I’m all for letting the dice fall, but I’m a firm believer that HP really isn’t the thing to let the die fall over. A bad roll on an ability check is funny, only getting 1 HP for levelling really fucking sucks in the long run.
The player can just take the average anyway. If they’re smart they will always take the average. May as well let them roll and potentially get higher with a safety net.
TL;DR The joy of getting a high roll on HP is drastically outweighed by how awful it feels to get a low one.
Thanks so much for playtesting these rules thoroughly before disseminating, and for the timestamps and document in the description! I wish all youtubers did so much research and preparation. +1 sub!
Should have called this video "Five Rules from Fourth Edition D&D That We Liked"
Note: This is not meant as a slight; I liked 4e quite a lot. About half of my main group does.
While it's not necessarily a rule, my wife at her table will tell the next player up in initiative that they're 'on deck' so they can start planning their turn. It worked out so well that I started using it and it significantly sped things up with just this one thing. Great video by the way I'm definitely using these
4th edition did a lot of great things.
That’s why I still play it.
Good stuff! I'm going to share this video with our DM and see if he wants to implement any of these rules. I imagine he will.
We used to play a rule that if you roll a "1" on your attack you have to roll again. IF you roll another "1" your weapon breaks. That always strikes fear in the hearts of players when they see a "1" turn up. We started to realize that at higher levels breaking a weapon especially a magical one, or a very well-made one is very rare, and probably more rare than rolling a 1.
That was our thinking anyway, so we stopped using it.
Great video guys!
My favorite house rule:
Roll initiative with 3d6 (instead of d20).
Makes init much more valuable for high DEX characters, and init feats more valuable. You can still roll poorly and go last, but thieves and tactical fighters have an advantage, feels good, easy to implement.
Why does it make it more valuable? Wouldn't it go from 3-18?
I have adopted minion rules for my own system and it sure does add some depth and detail to a fight. Love it.
I already use the +2 Flanking and the Minion rule, but that Bloodied rule is going on my games ASAP
I do love the idea of a dragon getting the breath weapon back when it gets bloodied. in my head, a breath weapon is a somewhat uncomfortable process for the dragon, it's basically forced vomitting, so they won't use it unless they need to. once they've hit a bad point of hp, they realise they need to use it, as these adventurers are harder than the previous ones. depending on CR, I might even lock certain abilities behind bloodied, to really ramp up the fight as it gets more and more dangerous (ie, the dragon only uses multi attack, or doesn't use legendary actions until it's bloodied, or it has lair actions UNTIL it's bloodied, to change the dynamic of the fight)
Good rules suggestions. As the old man behind the DMs screen I feel the historian in me pointing out that flanking (+2) and rear (+4) were part of AD&D 1st and 2nd edition as well. I like the potion and bloodied rules as well.
I love the minion rule, it would work perfectly for some of my one shots.
6:55 that is legit what i did when first playing skyrim
I am going to use the healing potion rule
I started using it just based on watching Drakenhiem live play. My players really enjoyed it. Same goes for the Bloodied rule.
@@sambobsam it makes sense that a healing potion would be static
I like the idea, but I also like that not all potions are made/brewed the same. What if it was crafted in haste and not as potent...or came from a goblin cave with not as good conditions to be making potions. Flavor perhaps?
@@trouqe If anything, it gives you a chance to create a new series of healing potions
There's the core book ones, and then there's the static ones. It can be tactical (houserule), at the same time that the adventurers may have to take a risk with a poor healing potion (core book)
I think it would make since to use both. A health potion brewed by a master would be static and obviously be more expensive. One brewed by an apprentice would vary but be a cheaper option for your players when their coin purse is getting a little light.
I love the idea of making potions always deliver their max hit points, it makes so much sense.
I prefer that rule to potions healing maximum health to drinking potions as a bonus action, but I do like the change to critical hits a lot. The minions rule sounds like it would be fantastic for creating an epic, cinematic clash with a warlords forces or something. I might end up using these rules in my own games, when I start DMing o9n the regular.
The crit rule is exactly the way I houseruled them in my old 3.5 D&D games back when the system was new. I'm happy to see others use that idea too; it really makes crits feel awesome.
My House rule - when my players create a new character, to help further their creativity and allow my players to specialize their characters, they are allow to add a feat.
I do the same, so long as it makes sense for the character build. Last game, one new player made a ranger, and she kept her longbow, but swapped out her two short swords for the sharpshooter feat. She's useless in melee, but deadly at range, even at low level.
@@askcosplaysenpai Thats awesome! My party's ranger is very much the same. His character has a bond with a fighter who is a dualist so this makes up for the ranger's melee. They both work together which I feel helped them make their characters unique. All characters, I feel, should have some soft of disadvantage and rely on others to fill in the gaps of each other.
@@askcosplaysenpai I dont like this at all tbh. It gives too much powercreep too early, and is unbalanced for enemies and HP.
@@MasterGhostf If it feels unbalanced to you, you can add more frequent enemies, or use something at a higher CR. With a feat specific to their characters' personalities, my players feel powerful and unique without early-game grinding or starting at a higher level, and I never feel the need to pull punches. It also helps out when I'm running a game with a small amount of players. But hey, if it doesn't work at your table, it doesn't work at your table. That's the magic of house rules 👍🏼
good rule, imop...last campaign i ran, i let the players get a free feat at creation...its a game of heroes, sooo, let em feel heroic...but this is from a guy thats been dmin since i got the red box around 1980, i have a good sense of encounter balancin and frequently rebalance mid combat
Actually in our table we figure out Better Criticals the same way as you. It was nice to see that some people think a like.
Regarding Flanking: with my Group, I tried a different rule: when attacking a flanked creature, you get +1 for each creature flanking that creature. This encourages clever positioning and is not as strong as a flat value or Adv.
You guys have made running my first campaign so much easier. Thanks!
One rule that I've been using when the combat involves 4 or more monsters of the same type or small groups of different monsters, is to roll one initiative for the whole monster group. Example: The heroes are fighting 4 goblins, 2 Twig Blights and 1 Bugbear. I roll one initiative for the Goblins and one for the Twig Blight group as a whole (And obviously one for the Bugbear). The only exception is if in the middle of the group of monsters I have some chieftain or important character, this one have his initiative rolled separately.
@@HiddenRealm I never said that all the heroes will necessarily go before the monsters and this can happen with rules as written. Having lots of the same monsters acting on different spots, not because of ready actions, but because of rolling makes really confusing for players and DMs to keep track. I speak by experience. Of course I'm not the owner of truth, I'm just sharing what have worked for me and the different groups I've DMed for the past 10 years. Also, this is just for weak large pack of monsters, not leutenants, bosses or special creatures.
I like giving a “Favor Token” that allows a few options during play. It can add +1or +2 to any roll (d2), reroll any one die, gain a burst of health (lvl) (to prevent death, drink a potion or escape), to attack first in any turn....they can gain these tokens by impressing the DM (usually with role playing or story advancement without nudging).
So I got this from possibly misreading the Player's Handbook, but I've kept it in event after I heard it's not the way others play: When leveling up, player characters' max HP increases by the the maximum between the average hit-dice roll and the actual hit dice roll. So like, if your class uses a d10 hit dice, you gain 6 or 1d10 max HP, decided after the roll. It keeps the excitement of rolling a big HP increase, but also doesn't leave players deflated when they roll low.
If my math is right, that raises the average for a D10 character to 7 (6+6+6+6+6+6+7+8+9+10=70 /10=7), D8 is 5.75, D6 is 4.5, and D12 is 8.25.
So that is roughly a 15% HP increase per level (not 15% total because of max HP at level 1). Not a huge jump,, but enough that you would need to take it into account. I like the idea though!
I allow the PCs to get a trainer for going up levels. It costs money (10 gp for 2nd level up to 500 gp for 10th.. which is max).. If you spend it, you get advantage on your HD roll.
When moving diagonally on a grid, we use the 10-5 rule instead of the 5-10 rule (basically your first diagonal movement costs you 10 instead of 5.) It's small but it keeps diagonal movement from ALWAYS being the best move, which it otherwise is.
We split non-reach melee weapons into short and long categories, with short only able to hit/threaten up-down-sides while long can reach diagonals.
Drawing a weapon is your "interact with object" on your turn, whereas dropping something is always free. If you want to quick-switch from your longbow to your shortsword, you have to drop the longbow and draw the shortsword. Picking up an object off the ground while in melee with an opponent triggers an attack of opportunity.
Optional training for levelling (costs gold) but gives ADVantage on HP Die Rolls.... more detailed armor charts (same basic rules).... shields have HP... and simple Crit Hit and Fumble tables (roll 2d6). You could sling your weapon, fall prone, get an extra attack, damage your weapon, et al.
House rule I use for crits: Roll damage as normal, no additional die for the crit, add all modifiers, and then double that. I feel that helps balance out paladin and rogue crits a little better because although the dice roll can be low, they still get their stat bonuses doubled, and it gets rid of the snake eyes roll for a whopping 5 damage.