For the link to the English translation of the China - Russia Joint Statement 16 May 2024 as mentioned by Fui, here it is: insap.org.my/china-russia-joint-statement-16-may-2024/ thanks everyone!
BTW, When is Russia returning the past occupied territory in the North East region of China, since there is no limit cooperation ...? Of cause there i no need to use English in the said no limit document., it is between Russia & China. There aren't any laws in the world that saying there must be English alongside.
CIA propaganda is working in Malaysia too? I guess that’s why they say the US has its propaganda outlet in every country in the world! Every time I fall asleep that damn Google forced my phone to open up on a CIA propaganda channel! Damn it!
Most mainland Chinese want Evil Communist China to go divided into multiple countries of democracy like Europe and no longer be in the totalitarian and dictatorial control of Beijing rascals
Chinese Malaysians are Malaysian no two ways about it. China Chinese are from China. We are from the same stock but we are not the same country. So there is no country we can go back to even if some parties can shout that all they want. Ini tanah air kita. Selamat Hari Merdeka
This govt should encourage & implement more muhibah family programs example tele matches live & aired in Astro to promote greater understanding & integration of all the races in malaysia.
@@jeremyjosh3058 there are millions of corrupt china men fleeing to singapore where the Malay muslims are weak. Bribery is china culture in life. Even tv shows they bring gifts..
I am born and bred in Malaysia. I am Malaysian first. Of course I am happy for China's rise for it does help show the Westerners that Asians are as good or even better. But it doesn't even cross my mind to seek "protection" from China. Protect me from what? Racism, religious discrimination? This is part and parcel of multi-racial, multi-cultural and multi-religious countries.
@@JettoGospel yes I am aware. First of all, I do not think such riots will occur in today's Malaysia. The bumis have much more political power today - yes, they will still use the nons as boogeyman but realistically we are not significant enough to threaten them. The bumis are fighting one another for power - the ultra religious vs the so-called moderates vs the Malay nationalists. Secondly, even if it does, will China send troops to "rescue" anybody? China today is all about their own interests
Remembered d visit of d Chinese ambassador to Petaling Street, on d eve of d planned racially- charged red shirts rally? It helps cooled down d temperature despite accusation that he was interfering in our domestic affairs.
@@henrymlim history repeats itself unfortunately. A stronger China will immediately reflect on local Chinese whether the Chinese want it or not. If China is weak like it was in the 60s, they will believe they can get away with murder which they did but if they do it now, it is a different story solely because they do not want to mess with a nation which has superior power economically or militarily. Being a south east Asian Chinese, in most of the Malays' or indonesians' eyes means you don't belong there according to them as they have claimed it all as evident in the riots of 1969. You may believe that you belong there but not in their eyes unfortunately.
I have accepted my status as Pendatang. Malaysia is to me a Permanent resident with a Passport to travel everywhere AND given a vote which I can use to express my opinion on a candidate. I encourage Non Malays to try adopting the same mindset. I guarantee your stress level shall be greatly reduced.
Yes, I think most have adopted this mindset. Like Fu said, it really doesn't matter anymore. Honestly, as a shrinking minority, what can we do? Live and let live. There are will always be politicians who will make scapegoats using the non Malay community but give another 100 years, there may be very few non Malays left. So wonder who to blame at that time?
@@omarmahadi8219 haha.. with all the facts in the internet that is the best way for chinese refugees to adopt. Malay passport open the western world to them that a China passport cannot. All these foreigners want are Malay pasports. Very powerful. Not be a muslim or soeak Malay. You are not a Malay. Dont lie. Malay are muslims. And islam is all encompassing
It’s all to do with the mindset. I’m in my 60’s. My parents introduced me to the other ethnic groups before I turned 5. We had neighbours who were Malay, Indian, Sikh, Peranakan, Singhalese ; all living on the same street. We still remained a Malaysian Chinese family but we were free to visit each other’s homes and have meals together; totally respecting each other (free interaction and sharing celebration). So, it’s the parents and the environment which builds the mindset. Btw, I’m totally educated in English, but I can speak and understand BM and Mandarin.
Why cannot we consider ourselves as human beings instead of being divided by race, creed colour, nationality country, religion, etc. We have witnessed & are witnessing that these separations are causing endless pain, grief & suffering. Let us try to live & operate with humane values.
Melayu, Cina and India Malaysia must stop debating about races. This is not important anymore. Everybody must join hands together to make Malaysia great and rich. Enough politics, start working hand in hand. We look at small problems without looking at the more serious issues. Wake up!!!
Wow lajunya tengok podcast. Published 52 minutes ago, and already watched a 1.5 hour podcast. Btw, if you watched, the academics argued against assimilation. They don’t perceive to be equal, rather they’re indifferent against cohesion/unity.
We are no longer living as united people as how l found life was 40 yrs ago we did not see each other as You are Malay- You are Chinese You are Indian or You are Punjabi We are blaming politicians we need to blame ourselves we are not unity government that word is bullshit(unity government)
chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
From security and power perspective, many so called modern country, nationalists themselves is against it. Cause they believe even being majority, then they will suffer. Their country will be taken.
Thank you Mr. Khoo, very insightful episode. Two very intelligent and wise ladies, much more intelligent than most politicians we have to deal with in Malaysia. I think this episode is very insightful for the Malay community especially. I have close Chinese friends and open minded to discuss sensitive issue because of the close bond we have. I learn so much misconceptions on both sides. When I have conversations with friends who are Malay, majority of them would hold on to distrustful perspective over the Chinese community and when I talk to Chinese community will have similar point of view and point out that I am an exception among many which is not true. At the end of day, politicians care more about votes than us and play the hero which narrative fits them the most at the time... As we can see what's happening now.
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
Obviously ....... these 2 ladies are much-much cleverer, far sighted and understood the dynamic of the world order ..... unlike many idiotic policy makers who still stuck in their yesteryears' 2Rs issues!! The fact is everyone knows the main reason why there is no "real" cohesion and unity in this nation simply because of 2 tiers policy that this country is upholding since decades ago ....... As someone cited, how can you be so total "loyalty" when you are not treated equally, just and fair ..... Of course, there are lots of "resentment" and unsatisfaction no matter where you are if you are treated as such ..... Race and religious supremacy must not be how this country supposed to go forward. Too bad it was not discussed and mentioned during their discussion ...... perhaps, it is a sensitive issue to talk/discuss on podcast??
@@user-ic4do1zd2m That is why we must drive the chinese refugees back to china before they become security risk. China already sending communist army to singapore. We are not afraid of china kafirs.
Race should not be an issue, nor religion. There are many Muslims in China, and maybe more Chinese Muslims will settle in Malaysia in the future. But extremely religion idealogy will hurt a nation for future growth. Just like natural disasters, always slow down the progress.
I have no idea why some locals think the fact that Indo-chinese were assimilated back then was something to be proud of. Integration of language, culture and races in Malaysia is what we should be grateful for in the wave of globalization nowadays. We will learn and strengthen our bahasa kebangsaan no doubt, but don't tell us to forget our roots. Just imagine if one day the majority became minority, will they be willing to forget their roots? Its not right to do so isn't it?
Thats why i feel strongly One Nation school is important at the same time 3rd language must be compulsory to everyone be it mandarin/tamil. So other races will not forget their mother tongue (no more banana chinese) and Malay can understand mandarin/tamil too.
@@intanmaziah I believe you are coming from a positive stance and I respect that. But unless the right or far right politicians and their supporters are really sincere and honest in this ‘sekolah satu aliran’ idea by showing true acceptance and tolerance towards our diverseness, or else it is merely just a fabricated notion claiming to unite all races with hidden motives and objectives.
Being Malaysian Chinese, how do we have expected China to protect us? 2015 when UMNO Jamal Yunus threatened to bring his red-shirt youths to demonstrate in Jalan Petaling China Town, the then Chinese Ambassador Mr Huang Hui Kang visited the place on 25/9/2015 a day before to support the Chinese community.
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are he thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
You have selected memory. You are telling half the story. He said during the visit that "The Chinese government opposes terrorism and any form of discrimination against races and any form of extremism and Beijing would not hesitate to speak out against any threat that may affect China’s ties with Malaysia". Immediately Red shirt rally in Petaling street was called off. The Chinese Ambassador has indirectly averted a serious conflict in Chinatown.
@@caseyliew86 don't be a drama queen lah it's only a demonstration. It's a freedom of speech you don't get in Chinese majority countries. At least in a demonstration they don't behead malays like your forefathers did during insurgency
You can't blame Jamal. Fed up with BERSIH that often demonstrated in sectors of KL that is deemedMalay majority, Jamal brought the demonstration to Chinese area( Petaling Street) Only them the Chinese understood how demonstrations affect business
@@shamshulanuar7718Anwar started the demonstration with reformasi slogan with mainly Malay crowd but you blame it on Chinese? You are the type that shout DAP for 100 years while the world pass us by.
Just like Malaysian Government will not protect the Malays in Christmas Island or in South Africa because why should we? A government of a Country protects its citizens, not everyone of a certain ethnicity living in some other places. This title does not make sense.
Anyone who was at the mamak stalls watching Olympic badminton games will understand the deep love we have for our country despite all the differences and forces pulling us apart.
@@AntiIslam-u6b anti christianity Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves who steal Malay land.. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
@@AntiIslam-u6b cry about it. No one's wants to live in a Chinese apartheid. Even the Chinese are running out of China and converting to Christianity and Islam.
I am Malaysian first. Race and ethnicity should be put aside if we want to make this country great. We got to keep fostering every Malaysians from all walks of life to come together to face competitions from other nations and survive we must. We are sailing on this Malaysian ship and the new world order path we are sailing into is gonna be more stormy than our predecessors have gone through in the past 67 years. You can’t jump into the South China Sea and hope China’s navy ship would savage you. We are on our own the minute you’re born in Malaysia’s Bolehland and only as one ship, one Malaysia we can thrive. This is the most important message that our young generation must listen to and make their homeland in Sabah, Sarawak and the Peninsula proud to live in. May the success of this nation be with you. Happy Merdeka to all fellow Malaysians 😊
Please! May I add that Chinese navy won’t even save a Chinese National in South China Sea, let alone a Malaysian Chinese. The HSR project is destine to fail. I hope Anwar’s government monitors Indonesia’s high speed rail project’s profitability and stop the project ASAP! China’s domestic HSR project has been running at a loss after operating for so many years. Nepal’s second largest city’s airport was built with China’s instigation, without due consideration on pragmatic considerations for profitability and ability to repay the debt, at overly inflated price that China construction company charged. All these should serve as an alarm to projects/Loans extended to Malaysia.
Chinese BRI is the best thing for Malaysia, don‘t be short sighted. Global economic is going into a slow reccession after Covid, and China vs US trade war, but thats not blame it onto BRI projects. There are economic cycles, and you should invest / buy when the market is low, and sell when the market is high. Its actually the best time to invest in infrastructure now and wait for economic up turn.
@@merrick6484 I don’t think anybody is shortsighted, but you are the one that has grossly underestimated the evil CCP regime. If you have actually dealt with mainlanders then you will know what I mean. I am not going to argue with you, time with tell if the BRI is the best thing for Malaysia.
@@User-19382 it is good to be proud of one’s heritage, I was too! Until I lived in China for more than 10 years and saw the true colour of the CCP regime. You don’t have to take my word for it, just go and live in China and see it for yourself.
Thoroughly enjoyed this pod cast covering both local and international. Its more clearer now listening to the problems that we face in Malaysia which I think has a lot of truth to it. We are wasting too much time doing something impossible . Nice One 🙏
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
TQ for this great topic & discussion. At our spheres of influence, there are much being discussed and done to attempt to bridge, East/West Malaysians, religious believes, dialects differences, economics levels differences and others. It's our cultural obligation to cultivate harmony and peaceful integration within our community. We do pray and hope that our efforts can benefit our communities, country and the world. China unfortunately has an enormous population and with it enormous challenges to manage. China would love to be able to protect Malaysians, all Malaysians in fact if and whenever it can, I believe China will. Amen.
That is beyond absurd. China protects their citizens. In English, people who are ethnically Chinese and people who are citizens of China, are simply called _Chinese_ leading many people to confuse and conflate the two together. I don't know Mandarin, but I've been told, in Mandarin, they are two completely different words. So there is no confusion. China's governments (both of them) runs on Mandarin, not English.
What a great discussion! I stumbled on it as I was hoping to find out the latest on Malaysian politics and the reality on the ground but was blown away by the very well-informed and clear-mindedness of your guests, especially Ms Soong. Great content!
chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
I’m thankful and happy with the current situation now in Malaysia. To my fellow Chinese Malaysians, let’s all move on from the “equality” ideology. As long as Chinese education, language, name and religious freedom are still legal, we should focus our life and conversation with other more important topic.
You only think for yourself...There are a lot of poor Chinese Malaysian folks out there. Remember Malaysia heath DG, he us actually a Chinese, but was given away because of poor. Move away from what if one is poor?
Your mindset is ok but also irresponsible for future generation. We are educated differently, we don’t riot for no reason but it doesn’t mean others won’t. If the country couldn’t develop & continue to grow, when finance is in shambles, riot ensued and the “master race” of this country are brought up with education of entitlement to its core where even the Quran focus on us vs them mentality, they will look for trouble with you or your children. So if we don’t help them to change (not imposing change on them, it has to come from them willingly), the problem will come back to bite us in the future. Change is difficult, comfort zone is easy. Life now in Malaysia now is pretty alright, it could be worse but it could turn into Bangladesh any moment where even their own people are not happy with the quota, cautionary tale for us.
@ycteoh You know how much subsidy being offered for them to start business?? Most of them secured branded goods and the Chinese can dream off. A lot failed. Even promoting Furniture to Europe, tyor M get RM50K allocation but Chinese only get RM20K allocation. Just one twi slot for Chinese. How much RM20K can one display in Europe. Worst the counter nobody maned, all shopping around. When European came to Malaysia counter, nobody to be found. All went around Europe to go shopping. That is why overseas exhibition bring Zero Results. Whi pay? Tax payer paid. Further, scholarship to go overseas, many Malays can ve found in Europe with families being sponsored. Chinese amd Indian have to sacrifice their houses to send to children to overseas.
Omg. I got goosebump listening to these 2 women. especially Fui. They are so knowledgeable and powerful forces. They tell everything. Whatever that Sheikh Imran told before is being breaking down by these 2 women. Must invite them again. I cannot sleep anymore. So many informations, goods and bads. Thanks Chua! Good questions asked by you. 🎉
😮😮 WE ARE CHINESE MALAYSIANS, WHY WOULD WE WANT PROTECTION FROM OUR GRANDPARENTS ANCESTRAL LAND. AS CITIZENS OF MALAYSIA, WR SHALL BE LOYAL TO OUR OWN GOVTNN COUNTRY. IN THE EVENT OF A CONFRONTATION WITH CHINA, WE WILL FIGHT ALONGSIDE OTHER MALAYSIA PATRIOTS AGAINST ANY INVADING FORCE TO DEFENF THE NATION N N ANY POTENTIAL EXISTENTIAL NATIINAL SECURITY YYREAT TO MALAYSIA N HER PEOPLE.
We are at an impasse because we adopt the live & let live mantra, everything else is just wishy-washy surface stuff. Tto speak bluntly we just don’t trust each other and I am sure the Malay would agree. Geopolitics will force itself onto us, so how we react that it would determine our nation future.
@@brainwashington1332 Why do you need protection from Communists PLA. You are the thieves who steal Malay land. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
I am chinese + orang asli. My face look like malay. Every one thought i am malay because my name is like malay and since i dont know speaking chinese. I mostly speak bahasa asli at home and bahasa melayu and english outside home. My parents are christian but i become muslim after i further my study. For me malaysian are the mix of everything. Eventhough people call me malay muslim, i always remember that i am mix of multi racial, culture and religious. This is the unique of malaysia.
China as a state sees Malaysian Chinese as good for their tourism industry. That's about it. For Malaysians, Chinese businesses take all the jobs, send projects back to Beijing offices, appoint their own nationals in Malaysia, leaving nothing for local businesses. Is this sustainable?
Until you have an alternative where you can compete like Thailand, Vietnam, or even Indonesia, talking about China’s business model is like pointless bantering. The least we can do is still negotiate for something with China because China still care about scoring positive political points unlike now where EU don’t want our palm oil, we should just shut down Proton because it will send jobs to China.
I am sure u know nothing about Malaysia. Malaysia has bumi quota if u are operating a business. You need to hire certain amount of local Malay in order to operate.
This is a very insightful discussion. Looking forward to more conversations with them in the future. Really learnt a lot. Gonna prep for the turmoils of the coming decade.
3 million chinese has left , migrated. Since 1970. Australia, New Zealand,Canada, USA, UK,Taiwan, Hongkong & i known a guy in Switzerland. Finally our neighbor Singapore! But i had to admit, we are more peaceful, as socially, Msian are more mature now on living in a multi race n culture nation.
People migrate from every country e.g. american , european, etc etc migrate to asia. #No big deal if Malaysians hav migrated. #The main concern for M'sia is Will it be changed into an Islamic State if a party like PAS win in future GE ??
@@Veloce2000 it is inevitable b/c of shifting demographic. Muslim will never have the capability to self correct and move away from Islamic rule which is pretty much conservative at its core, hence the need to use the word “moderate Muslim”. Look at Arab Spring, an epic failure where Islamist always take over when there is a void in power. It happens too consistent to know that Moderate Muslim will always conform to conservative Muslim because they are louder and more…violent.
Everyone wants to live better, even Malays also go to work a in Singapore, Australia, UK and America, that's why in Malaysia now you see many foreigners coming to work in Malaysia such as Bangladesh, Indonesia, Cambodia they become replacements, every exit should be a replacement, that is the solution, not crying, it's the same in the UK now, now the UK is not stable, many UK citizens run away because the country is not safe, the economy is declining, jobs are stolen by foreigners and more
Msian race based politics and policies has set back Msia by decades. China won't interfere with others internal affairs. But it will rescue the Chinese if it gets violent, eg in 1960s China sent many ships to repatriate Indonesian Chinese back to China. China built a kampung Bali in China for the Indo Chinese. Google it, this is well documented.
That is good. #MalaysianChinese should never provoke malays to run amok (which hardly since the malays are peaceful and tolerance muslims) or else China will have trouble to sent ships.
@@shamshulanuar7718the one complaining about Olympic uniform for being overly Malay is MCA, not DAP. Even most of the DAP politician all speaks better Malay than MCA, go listen. Hospitality is definitely a positive traits of Malay. Benevolent, possibly and hopefully sustainable because we have a peaceful transition of power in government with no blood shed but it was a difficult process.
Yes, l still remember it very vividly. CHINA can still remember how our forefathers remit money back to build schools, roads etc etc. We always teach our children to repay kindness with kindness ( kan ern ) n this tradition is still going on. I m not trying to be naive.
Good one! Especially the second half of the discussion. Once we peek out from under our coconut shell, we suddenly see so much that we have missed out on. Rita & Fui are the under the radar voices that we should hear more from. Thanks for featuring them Chuang. Would love to hear more from them. Maybe together with Kishore Mahbubani! Different styles but same confidence in the SEA region. That conversation would set the room on fire!
Could try to get George Yeo too. Kishore and George are pretty much bias towards China but George has an interesting and fresh take when he analyze China from cultural point of view as he talks about paper or how he is a Christian but embrace Taoism philosophy. The West seems to find it fascinating on China's ability to sinicize or the sinicization of religions such as how they are able to bring Taosim, Confucianism, & Buddhism under one roof, "harmonizing" the 3 different religions. I couldn't remember the names off my head but there were many Christian organization who actually spent time & resources trying to study Confucianism and then compare each other religion while trying to find the common ground or common values. I suppose George is that one example of how he is already capable to be both a Christian & a Taoist at the same time. Personally for me it's quite easy such as Jesus teaching of turning the cheek, essentially it is no difference from the virtue of 忍（Endure, Tolerate, Put up with) or the proverb 忍一时风平浪静退一步海阔天空, the rough translation would be endurance & compromise will make the conflict much easier to resolve. Sadly this is something that doesn't seem to be common with Islamic teaching. Sure the Muslim preacher will go around talking about how they believe in Jesus or Moses but then their ultimate goal is to convert you because their follow up is to say your holy book has been corrupted whereas their holy book is the only one that is original, pure, & sacred. The intention is already impure & disingenuous which would surely lead to direct conflict with the West easily. In fact I have met Muslim preacher who believe Jesus turning the cheek is a stupid idea, which not only get on the nerve of believer & non-believer alike but it plays to the stereotype of how a Muslim is a Jihadi who is waiting to....Basically It is like 24/7 direct confrontation as oppose to finding common ground where they can avoid conflict and coexist. At the end of the day, Christianity & Islam are 2 sides of the same coin trying to convert the others, but Christian are more charismatic while Islam is an all out submission as Lee Kuan Yew put it. Speaking of which, it seems that the sinicization of Islam has always been on the agenda too as announced by Xi Jin Ping and many of its official. How that pans out is remain to be seen but I believe Malaysia's progress will be at the center stage of it. At the very least, China seem to be able to bring all different Muslim adversaries to come to the table. Saudi (Sunni) normalizing relation with Iran (Shia), Palestinian 14 different groups agree to put aside their infighting, Russia having to bite its tongue and sit together with Taliban.
I am of Malaysian and Sri Lankan origin. I have had sleepovers with my Chinese friends where Malay was the only language that brought us together. You are right, we don't fully understand the intricacies of each other's food, festive days, science, religion, etc. Malaysia has only recently gained independence, so it is a young country. Fragmented by former colonial rule, healing is going to take some time. 😅 Agreed on class division- I am afraid my family wont mix with others due to the level of racism we faced from all sides.
Why blame colonialism for diversity? So brainwashed & fashionable to use the term colonialism. The British did help to get rid of chinese communist in Malaya. Otherwise it maybe part of China.
After listening from start to finish. What Fui said is what is what I actually feel. Nice to learn about 3 pillars. I've always felt in my gut about the language side. And that is why I sent my kids to SJKC although I'm national school anglophonic chinese. I don't see the distrust and disunity because either I haven't participated or I just haven't been a victim in my day to day life. Only that there is talk on it that I can't even make heads or tails out of it.
Not from Masia. I read quite some comments. I cant say much about general people's view, perception. But in general, the issues with Nationalism and nationalist is that they(people in power) tend to assume, non majority people, be it based on origin, religion, language, region etc. as a security concern and threat. And to make matters worse, those intelligence agency of many countries tend to have and facilities brutal, criminal alike abominable mentality people who are far far worse than animals and does disgusting stuff everywhere and writes plenty reports full of falsehood and their so called bulsh*it stuff in what they belive. And always sub-conciously keep in it in mind Politicians are not exactly good people. Plus those outsider govts(mainly those so called west bast**rds) and probably the countries bordering you country tries to fuel things up and destabilize your country. Or the govt simply fears those bordered countries or the people in question. So what im saying is, yeah your are right. Most people should go through the same life regardless of minority or majority. But the scenerio changes if a individual/group gain power or try to pursue power and it a minority group. Including but not limited to the minority group want some changes which "govt people " decides dosent align with them regardless of good or bad. Or perhaps simply beacuse the govt. view your or your group(minority) as potential power house. from little to unbearable losses will appear in one's / a groups life. It could be like- threats/warming, facing prejudice, misconception to "getting killed". But the worst part is, if they decides to toruture and not kill. one will be screaming to kill him/herself each day until he/dies dies. And you know what, in many cases you wont even know what you did for which they are doing this you. Seen many innocent people who had to face it. And at the moment of writing, many were still facing it around the globe unfortunately.
Backstory people forgot. The Malays never wanted the chinese to be citizens of Independent Malaysia but in the 1950's it was tbe height of the Malayan Emergency and chinese formed 90% of the CTs. Under the British "hearts and minds" program they forced the Sultans to give chinese citizenship in post independent Malaya to break the Malayan Communist Party else the chinese would keep on fighting with no stake in Malaya. The malays were never happy about it there why the concept of bumiputra was enshrined in the constitution between the new citizens and Malays.
The bumiputra constitution is to protect the weaker which is you at that time. The population ratio between Malays and Chinese were almost equal then. Besides, Chinese were well off and dominate the economy. Therefore, they need this policy to protect the bumiputra. But look at present day, Malays are already outnumber minority but they still need that protection and that policy and its advantage has been abused by their own crook politicians
Brian, you just missed because your cut off point is the 1950s. If you were to look back just slightly earlier. A few years, say 1948 ... What happened in 1947 - 48? What happens when Britain leaves, the people there set up a new country, but they don't give everybody citizenship? Like when half the population is left out in the cold, abandoned? Ooo ... everything would be fine ... yeah, these are people who don't learn, and repeat other people's mistakes. 🤦
I am a Malaysian Chinese, my culture is Buddhism and confusionism. As a Buddhist, I practiced positivities as a way of life meaning less hatred and accept peaceful interactions among my neighbours of other races and to respect the government of the day on their policies base on our national constitutions. Confusionism in us is to respect the elders and our ancestors all the way from mainland China. But I see the most Chinese in Malaysia has lost that culture due to their new culture like Christianity. I believe religion makes the difference in our Chinese community in China. If you noticed for example, the Prime Minister recently made a decision of sending Palestinian people to Malaysia for medical treatment, that was critism among the Chinese and these Chinese are mostly Christians. This is because Christianity has western influence through their churches. But for me as a Buddhist, I supported the PM base on humanitarian grounds because Buddhist teaches us to be compassionate to fellow human beings. This is just one example, another is most Chinese Christians don't like mainland China and the reason is Chinese government is authocratic to them basing on the western influence. I might be wrong but this is what I see it.
As a Malaysian living for half my life in HK, this podcast is very informative and agree with 90% of what is said except the part on Taiwan and HK is not particularly nuanced, unlike the previous discussion of Chinese in Malaysia. It’s very focused on the megatrends and economic inevitability but doesn’t highlight the vitality of civil society in Taiwan and loss of freedoms of speech and representation and direction in HK. A discussion like this podcast wouldn’t be carried out with a lot of overt or self censorship in many countries and I think it’s something that many Malaysians take for granted.
UK literally went after people posting on social media even when they are overseas. They would have extradite Elon Musk if they could. People who still harp on freedom of speech just seem ignorant or clueless about the global trend on technology & geopolitics. Like are you not seeing what happen in Gaza-Israel that has shattered the illusion of freedom of speech? It’s a matter of national interest.
In my observation Western influence in Hong Kong has brought some good ideas but really exported brainrot in the form of liberalism, self hate, and white worship. You think this western media makes people more educated but they're the most brainwashed of all. The right direction for Hong Kong is pride, confidence, development. The neutering of Asians must stop
@@dunzhen Hong Kong is sick. Just imagine yourself as Hong Konger who cram up in a small cage for 50 years. Combine that with many other social problems and then it simply explode through any means necessary. Human need space & greenery and this is one area where Malaysia are blessed because we seem to focus alot on it. Hong Kong even made many movies based around their mental health and murder that are inspired by real world incident, such as Murder of Abby Choi. Also from cultural level, if you observe you will then realize Cantonese people from Hong Kong seem to possess high stress level, hence they are known for their lack of hospitality in services industry and their ability to swear a lot.
My commentary: That's doesn't matter，the point here are - -China tourism boom in Malaysia -Influx of migrate to boom in properties -MM2H booming -Foreign direct investment in Malaysia, thanks to China vs US battle -Durian export to China -China is number one trading partner in Malaysia bla bla bla...
You are china chinese. No such person as Malay Chinese..haha chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
I remember reading , during the riots of Sukano to Surhato era in Indonesia, China, in their impovished state after the civil war, not too long ago, did send old ships to rescue the Chinese being "g", n dropped them on Hainan island. Those were long ago yrs., n China is different now, but, l think, for economic interest, China will, if they can, look out for their interest. Thank you, for this Interview.
It is due to each and every one of us NOT wanting to listen, NOR wanting to speak up, because the people who have authority and power to make change DID NOT HAVE EARS.
Obvious Malays and Chineses know that both races have to cooperate to make Malaysia a heck of a country . MAKMUR AND KAYA ! We dont have to be best friends to do this , cooperate , just ENOUGH-LAH ! Malays are kind people . Chinese are also kind people [mostly] . We be fine .
@@tenwritersscreen5511 really? All I can say is that you have grossly underestimated the greedy and corrupted CCP regime. The US has virtually stopped China from advancing their claims on South China Sea, Malaysia is indeed fortunate that Philippines have a new president just in time, China is facing resistance on Spratly islands, otherwise the CCP coastguard would have sail to Malaysia water and claimed it is theirs.
The world is our oyster. I lived 5 years overseas. 3 years in UK & 2 years in Singapore. And a short 3 months stint in Brunei. I quickly adapted to those countries. Mother Earth is for all humans. Regardless of race & nationality. If you feel uncomfortable where you are, relocate.
You can interpret what 'protection' is. What China did to the people of Palestine, I will term that 'protection'. Sometimes, it is what happens behind the scene that counts.
Don't veer away from the main topic. Palestine issues are too complicated for us not living in that region to understand. Note how the Arab countries are not stepping up to help them and welcome them into the country. The question is why...????
You are either a CCP lackey or been brainwashed by the CCP? I am a Malaysian Chinese who lived in China for more than 10 years. If you think CCP is such a benevolent government, then please, be my guest, emigrate to China
Social collectivism is not for Malaysians, not when 'Ketuanan Melayu' is being pushed by the Malays. The commentators are also confused as to where global wealth currently resides. The wealth they say is in the US is not aligned with global views. The US wealth is a figment of people's imagination. When the US is US$35 Trillion in debt.
@@zulamy3472What is Chinese racism? Look at America, ruined by overdose of affirmative action. US used to be country where multi-racial, multi-national, multi-religion that can live together, people laugh at “racist” joke at their comedy club, combating racism using racism.
@@zemry-mh4sq Using same mindset like you is like one trying justify what happens to Muslim in Palestine. Do you know what happens with the recent England riot? Racism is a complex issue but ultimately we should not be let words carry too much power or we end up with the America now, over sensitive with hyper affirmative action such as DEI that make racism worsen. Everyone become entitled in their own silo, hard work or meritocracy is no longer celebrated.
If you think about it, we're all pretty much the same except culture, mother tongue languages/dialects, religion and lifestyle which differ us by 20% - 25% that's all. Any other differences are basically, expected like you like liverpool, and I like man u. At the end of the day - We all want safety, security, freedom, comfort and modern progress.
Malaysian Chinese is a mixed blood with local such Malay, Indian and the native and this make the Malaysian Chinese mentality is totally different from China. Even though Malaysian have relatives in china but there prefer to die in Malaysia. i'm a malay my uncle married to a chinese....
And also many malays have chinese ancestry even the racist malays 😂 i myself also have chinese grandfather and a lot of my malay friends have chinese grandparents 😂
Why would China do that? Ethnic Chinese in Malaysia are Malaysian born and they aren't Chinese citizens. The Malaysian Chinese can take care of themselves.
agreed they are not patrotic they just swing to wherever its good for them.like lim guan eng won`t be surprised he will say he is now chinese malaysian bcos China now is a big brother!!th-cam.com/video/r-cwzza8vkw/w-d-xo.html
China got no char kway teow , no chow mien , no muang kwang kueh & no penang laksa so how to say i love china ? Everyday i am so happy with my malaysian chinese food and kopi O .
What is the intention of this discussion? We Chinese support China bc we hope for the protection from China? What a weird logic you try to inject to audiences. I born here as Malaysian, although my grand parents originated from China. We have no actual connection with China. I am proud Malaysian that appreciate the multiracial environment we live in. I respect and admire the development in China, that's all. If they are doing the right things, everyone will support them, please don't try to frame our local Chinese as pure China supporters. One of my friend is very anti China, he is Chinese educated as for your info, so education background is not the only factor. It's all down to which media that affects them most.
Malaysian Chinese is Malaysian and no longer CCP. I am Malay and worried of either weak or corrupt malay leaders rather than chinese 35% community. However we don't want them to make us as Palestine which been push away from economy that should be balanced accordingly and appropriately.
I'm a 2nd generation Malaysian Chinese, went to Chinese school. I'm so so so glad that we DID NOT become like Indonesia or Thailand, I think Malaysian Chinese are blessed, because we get to keep our culture, our Chinese school, our name and our identity! At very young age, I already know what Malaysian Chinese have been treated as second class citizens in Malaysia, we were rejected by the government. Generations of Chinese grew up under that kind of environment and you expect Chinese to assimilate ? You are kidding right ? I think Malaysia Chinese and the Malays and Indians need to learn to live peacefully together, Chinese in Malaysia learn to live and thrive under oppression from Malaysia government for decades and we know how to do it and still thrive. I hope all the Chinese and future generation of Chinese continue to protect the Chinese culture and Chinese school in Malaysia.
learn live peacefully u said? how u can be "2nd chinese generation" living and get rich in Malaysia if not because of the biggest race in Malaysia being very tolerated and "learn and accepted and respect" other race culture came to tanah melayu. so u can go to chinese school and kept your culture here. the problem is chinese politician kept poisoning other race mind challenging and DO NOT "learn and accept" that Malaysia mainly belong to malay. the simple result is i would say 70 percent Malaysia chinese could not speak national language "fluently". only God know how many percent not even know how speak national language. so don't be ungrateful.
@@aqmalmal3976 I should be very grateful that Malaysia government accept Chinese as 2nd class citizen in Malaysia? Do you even know how Chinese people survive in Malaysia under the oppression of the government? I think most Chinese accepted that Chinese is the 2nd class citizen in Malaysia and learn to survive and thrive under this condition. From the way you sounded, I bet you are one of those that hate Chinese in Malaysia and think that Chinese should go back to where they came from? Believe me, this was said to my face many times, that was why I left after high school, and I haven't been back. Try to put yourself in other people's shoes, look at the government policies, maybe you will find a little sympathy in your heard to feel bad for the non-Malays.
Chinese will always get rich, and there is no doubt about that. Most of Chinese will succeed wherever they go, no matter where they originally from, China, Taiwan, H.K or Singapore. Same with China which will dominate the world sooner or later. And Chinese culture will always survived and grow, just like last few thousand years. Its fact the world needs to accept, no matter if you are a Malaysian or American. The question is, how politicians to deal with the fact.
@@merrick6484we already knew that...thats why 'hak keistimewaan orang Melayu and bumiputra' have been implemented...it's never about superiority...it's more about safety and survival of the indigenous...we don't want to end up like the native aborigines in Australia or the native Indians in US ...
This is a common mis-perception, if you're well read and travel enough then you will see minorities thriving due to the circumstances given, Chinese in South East Asia, Jews in Europe and America, Indians in Africa
@@kealee6350 In many areas, China has already surpassed the West. In a research done by an Australia think tank, China leads 33 out of 44 emergent technologies. But China has a huge population, it will be some more years before its per capita income reaches an equitable level.
Lol usa has billions of debt or was it trillion😂😂. I guess they can print money and those so called country leaders like slaves suck their master and send their own peoples hard worked produced products to usa to get those papers 😂😂😂
"Electoral democracy, which can lead to domination by the most populous ethnic group has to be held in check by something like a bill of rights." (Marvin Muasher)
Indonesia riots in 1998, China didn't do anything. So why should they protect overseas Chinese? They are pragmatist. They will take care of their own first unless threats against their overseas assets.
Maybe because at that time chi a was not strong enough? Remember how china behaves when it gets stronger. When it get stronger it will not let anyone be cruel anymore
@@ELGtheMAN when did that happen? You may not understand that China now has been trying to fight the imperial west agenda. I never said China is strong enough. Not yet. Wait and you will see
china has a non interventionism policy. it could only intervene when its citizens are concerned. china has denounced dual citizenship long ago, due to this exact reason somewhat. but chinese embassy suring that time already issued warning for targeted people to leave. they even accepted ethnic chinese indonesian and anyone who claimed to be chinese even without passport to board the rescue vessels. at the same time, kmt govt spread lies about the rescue as cpc propaganda and they would be jailed after reaching the mainland. history is a good teacher. and thousands of years of history is a profound sage. learn from it.
You are wrong. China give stern warning to indo, and if they don't stop, ship will be sent to evacuate Indo Chinese. The record is in China foreign diplomatic affair. Sometimes they need a strong valid reason, as they try to adhere to not interfering in other country affair before Taiwan is unified. After this is accomplished, then u will sense how u r part of their own.
#China has more concerns with her domestic problems than to think other chinese in other countries all over the world. Why should it matters what happen outside the mainland. Even more chinese nationals seek refuge illegally in #Malaysia to have better living. In general chinese everywhere dont really care about politics as long as they can peaceful survive untouch. Unlike #MalaysianChinese who blame politic and government for being "malay' even their livelihood are untouched. Their Kiasu mentality must stopped. As a citizen, you MUST have that sense of belonging to fight defend and die for that country whether you are the minority or the slave. Whether the harm cause by China or India or anywhere. Then can you only announced your loyalty as true Malaysian.
The Chinese Malaysians has done so much for Malaysia's progress because this is also their country. My grandfather serve the Police during British Occupancy in Malaya back in the day. He risk his life fighting the Communist movement in Malaya back then. I would do the same today. You comment on something you know nothing about.
You are either ignorant or very Childish behavior , spew venom and short sighted vision, do the real Kiasu treat you as Malaysian except taxing and all sort of taxation other than that they ask you to shut up . They will utilize religion and special status to silent you .
@@viralcelebs5064 I feel you. My family been through something similar. My late father was previously in the civil service and he work there for over a decade. He has constantly given his best for his job. He speaks, read and write Malay fluently, but the issue was he was constantly being instructed by his superiors to teach and pass down the job knowledge to new Malay recruits. Over time, he starts to notice he was always doing the same job and hardly gets any promotion, while the new recruits he was assign to guide was later promoted so much faster and has since became his superior. Because his salary hardly increase without promotions, we were so desperate when the time has come when my sister needed to further her education in university. We sold our house just to pay for my sister's university education, and move out to start renting places for our family to stay for over another decade without a home. I still remember that day we sold our only home, my mum was in tears. On that day, i remember my dad told us, "Never Again". He then left the civil service, and re-started as a low level bell boy in a 5 star hotel. His work ethics never changed, and he work hard while studying part time for a Hotel management degree, and work all his was up to eventually be a GM of another 5 star hotel and we then had enough to buy a new property for our family which we can call home again. During his struggle, i remembered the countless times he told our family at this same "kiasu" stereotypes or racial slurs directed at him when he was busting his ass to work his way up the hotel management while studying part time for his degree. None of his colleagues or friends know about his goals of wanting to buy a home, of wanting enough money to send his children to university, of not letting down my mother again. He just kept working hard. My point is, the people that always call us slurs such as being "kiasu", are the once who are usually less hardworking or less successful in their own life. We can even see, Malaysians calling Singaporeans "Kiasu", but we never read or heard of Japanese or Taiwanese giving similar stereotypes to Singaporeans. Similar to the West, the middle class calling the rich "FILTHY Rich" when it was their hard work that took them to success. There is always some negativity when someone works hard to eventually be successful. Here we are today, with so many slurs being thrown at us such as "Pendatang" or "Type C" or whatever. Worst, we are now even "educated" as to what being a "true" Malaysian is. The irony!! All I can say is the more successful you get, the more enemies you make. Accept it and move on.
If it wasn't for the Chinese Malaysians, we will end up producing maids for the world, similar to what is happening in Indonesia and The Philippines. Maybe it is their "kiasu" characteristics that saved Malaysia economically. Let's be a little more grateful.
China is soon becoming the world number 1 in about 10 years, Chinese language is the language for high technology, large business, knowledges, etc, English speaking is not that elite anymore as before, so learn Chinese language is the solution even for Malays😀
Respect to the two ladies. I wish to hear more from Asian Academics who actually understand things from and on the ground while are also aware of things from a Macro level to offer better insights of social issues from both perspectives. We don't have enough of these kind of conversations from Asians or even Africans from Africa. Such discussions are often dominated by narratives from Western Academics.
As a former advertising person, to say that the English speaking Chinese (G2) were biased towards ad spend in the English media is also another generalization. It depends on the specific product and the segments they are targeting. Companies (the drivers of ad spend) are not stupid. They know who are buying their products. Money talks louder than race or language.
Malaysian Chinese are realistic the position they are facing and managing as best as they can to survive. They have choice and choices including migrating to other countries to live. Little did a lot of Malaysians are aware that there are many Malays actually chose to take up Australian citizenship. Singapore and China are also their options. As to whether China will come to protect Malaysian Chinese, that will evolve and in the Chinese Constitution it mentioned that as long as you are " Chinese " you have rights including to take up Chinese Citizenship. Protection will definitely the implied condition too.
When racial problems broke out in the Solomon Islands between the natives and the Solomon Chinese who are local citizens, the CCP Govt. send ships to repatiate them although they were not citizens of China! This gave the impression that China today will intervene if the lives of Chinese are threatened in any way,not withstanding they are local nationals! This is a new development as the CCP Govt. in the past chose to look the other way when Suharto's army masacred many local Chinese in Indonesia during the army crackdown on Communists!
47:00 finally somebody said it, sarawak is not as "harmonious" as people thought it would be, it's just the same as the rest of Malaysia except the Islamic parties have lesser influence there that's all, when it comes to race relations it's still similar to Johor, Selangor, Pahang or any other parts of Malaysia. "sarawak harmony" is just a facade made by their politicians so that they could divert the attention of local Sarawakians of their internal problems by playing "us versus them" all the time.
I'm Malay. Malay is a race very easy to live, work etc in society. Other races only must respect the right of Malay as Bumiputera and Islam as Malay's religion. If you take care and dont cross border on that, we can live togetger in harmonies...
My two nieces were given free university education feee accommodation , free air tickets for parents to visit them in China, from your statement clearly indicates you know nothing about China politics and policies, I doubted you had been to China.
Tiny little Singapore, since LKY time, has great clout in the world and regional geopolitical matters. While Malaysia, past and present, at federal and state leadership don’t have any foresights, and have been busy with domestic politics and issues and happily practicing graft and corruption for personal gains.
Anwar & Mahathir can actually be considered someone of the same calibre but in different domain, LkY is seen as a statesman protecting the interest of Singaporean, Asian, & subsequently Chinese hence the West like to look to them to talk about Issue in China. Whereas Mahathir & Anwar is on the domain of Islamic world and they seem lesser of an Asian leader but a Muslim one because Islam always overshadow any topic they touches on. Besides that, Mahathir or Anwar didn’t do much in leading the Islamic world, in fact Professor Tajudin argue that the time Anwar spent in prison for more than 10 years due to Mahathir is time wasted which has allowed PAS to take the driver seat. Hence they would seem less capable when compare to Lee Kuan Yew who always try to steer its country into a diplomacy of consistency because they are a small nation that require trust to function or investor would fled. Basically Singapore has become the light for China when they are in turmoil such as the visit by Deng Xiao Ping to Singapore where many lessons were brought back to China. What have the Islamic world learn from Malaysia? Nothing. In fact, it is almost like Malaysia existence is to prove Islamic value are unfair in essence where Kafir value are brought to life in Bumiputera terms while Jizya is apparent from the quota system ranging from university to companies 30% hire. However this also prove China capability as a 2000years capitalist society as imply by the Ali Baba term. I wonder if there is any lesson we can derived from the rich history between Malaysia & China to reshape and fix the world. Whether Western led world order is unsustainable but the Malaysia China one where one is seen as host while the other is seen as guest. As long as we agree that every nation in the world need to retain its 70% “original” population so that they don’t always have to fight the question of impending existential threat, I am sure once they feel secured & relief mentally, it would not be difficult after for the local populace to come up with an impartial policy that see everyone as equal citizen (eg without the need for Bumiputera), thus marrying the best of both world from governance in the West & the East. This is much better than play pretend that we are one people when we are obviously not. I thought we are in the age of global village? Confuciunism has the idea of 天下大同Great unity where we seek commanality but at the same time remain different, 同中求異 異中求同. Unity in diversity.
@@zemry-mh4sq they all bullied the chinese and asians by spreading lies and false flags due to their own western barbaric uncultured mentality and insecurity. good thing china never backed down like india, japan, south korea, philipines, etc. china, the true pillar of civilisation against the anglosaxxon menace. more and more westerners are also supporting china against the evilness of the white zioglobalists.
1. I beg to differ. China is very Xi centric until his era is gone. This is evident from the change of the maximum 2 terms presidency. 2. The United States under Democrats has been avoiding direct war and not like what you guys said. 3. Both of you are very wrong on young chinese ethnic Malaysians less leaning towards China. You are right, those over 60 years have sentimental values towards China. This also being recently due to the rise of tiktok. Same goes to those under 30 years old. Most of them are in favor of the China values, also due to tiktok. And recently, the influx of many Chinese to Malaysia. I feel this discussion is very messy and leads to nowhere concrete. And please don't glorify Putin, the aggressor.
You're confused which nation or leader is the aggressor! The US has been going around bringing war and disaster all year long and now committed genocides, it's appalling this F Country still being adored
I don't blame Putin for the attack on Ukraine. The US and Nato has provoked the security of Russia by trying to let Ukraine to join as member of NATO which means US missiles can be deployed in Ukraine closer to Moscow. On top of that the US has supported all the Ukraine N@zi groups like Azov Battalion, Right Sector and C14 to kill ethnic Russians in the Donbass region of Ukraine since 2014 and they do not respect the people's referendum of the Donbass region to break away from Ukraine to join Russia. Check out the documentary Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone.
@@limitlessinmind it is a joke, their national service is worse than Singapore. Taiwanese on the grass root level are not preparing for a clash with mainland China despite the rhetoric. Even if you don’t believe me, at least look at their voting preference & demographic.
@@user-vs6gd6mh2w 1. We don’t even know if Xi is really the man in charge, he could be only the front or power has shifted and split between party members, for example Li Qiang handle economy. If you understand their politics, Xi still needs to be selected by the 7 different parties in CCP. To make it simpler to understand, if US has deep state, then surely China has something similiar for someone to rule behind the scene as you have no idea how many of their scientist has been killed. That is why Huawei CEO Ren Zheng Fei say they don’t let their scientist go abroad to do any speech or receive any awards, motto is to stay anonymous & low profile. MH370 is one of such examples, the official story is the plane went missing but it is an open secret now the US has something to do with it because the plane hold more than 20 semiconductor specialist from US enroute to Beijing & subsequently Tianjin to setup R&D center. Both US & China probably have classified information of Mh370 but to disclose it would means to escalate this into an all out war which neither side do not want, yet. 2. Democrats avoiding war? Obama literally bomb people to smithereens with drone while receiving Nobel Peace Prize, if not for the prize he probably would have kill more. Ukraine war started under the watch of Democrats. The discussion wasn’t messy, the intro already show how they used to think differently about China until new information surfaced that changes their mind.
To be an ethnic Chinese, a black from Africa or a Caucasian from Europe, before you self proclaimed to be an "Elite", you should be well connected in both Western and Eastern culture. Preferably to master at least an Eastern Language if you can, if you were from the West.
English (as a language) is not sufficient anymore. If you wish to be FREE from one sided media Brain-Wash, and open up to new concepts and opportunities.
I went to a Pharmacy, Well I spoke to her in English,although I saw a Malay worker there,the Cashier a Chinese insteads asked the Pharmacist loudly the correct price of the Med in English or BM, the price was wrongly quote,instead of correcting the price in English which I can understand, They spoke loudly in Chinese,I have to interpret myself that the POV dont hv the right code n price.I m just amazed, Speak openly in Malay or English..They dont sound friendly
You have just shown intolerance. I have Indian friends speaking Tamil around me. That doesn't worry me as I have trust in them. Maybe you have a bit to learn.
Malaya history and civilisation only starts around 14th or 15th century... What about those earlier Chinese that have been here doing trading and opening gold and silver mines....????? The British came and all previous settlers were all lumped into modern static tics as new immigrants from their respective countries... So the question is fair or not for applying such sweeping rules.... 😮😮😮😢😢😢
"Son of the Soil", Bumiputra and using religion like Moslem dominantly, single-handedly make Malaysia an Apartheid country; unable to unifying the people but to separating the Chinese, Indian, Eurasian to forming groups or to fighting back. By favoring, helping the Malays past the time frame, to unlimited time or forever would stiffen, hardened their hands to independently earning a living. It is learning how to fish rather than giving a fish is a valuable lesson.
The whole mess the Chinese and Indians being second class is due to MCA and MiC fsiled to protect our birthright. They shouldn't ask for independence as the British are Fair and Just. Just like Australia, they still.not gain independence and still.sing God Save the King, ssme with Malays before independence but the Queen instead. A lot of Malaysian migrated to Australia for a better life. My DAD a former police Ranger enlisted during the British days. After Merdeka, he grumbled wvety day due to racism in the field force. He eben.said he saw young Chinese students asking for application for polive cadet was turned fown with the officer on desl. No openings. Later Malay boys came over with the sane officer giving out the forms immediately. Right before my Father eyes.. Even our barrack house, rocks being thriwn at night. Even in police foce racism can happen what happened to civilians life. M6 Dad tolf me , it is better under the British rule as they are Fair and Just. Look at UK, even minority Indian can be a PM .Can it happen in Malaysia? I highly doubt so Merdeka is a time for Chinese and Indians to cry as iron balls are clamped to their feet under the Malay Government
@tenwritersscreen5511 Nope the UK have enough of peace religion...Nothing to do with Indian PM. The Indian help UK economy and never imposed their religious restrictions unto the people.
@tenwritersscreen5511 A lot of Indians in UK are Christians and blended well with UK society. Imagine British people were being scolded because of eating in front of them. Occurred public places to conduct prayers. Raising Palestinian flags in UK. Indians and Chinese don't do that. Definitely that boiled them...
Indonesia officially recognizes its ethnic diversity and includes a wide array of ethnic groups within its national framework and support each ethnic group's cultural preservation initiatives, e.g. Javanese (40%), Sundanese (15%), Madurese (4%), Malay (3%), Bugis (2%), Papuan (1%), Batak (2%), Minangkabau (3%), Balinese (2%) .....etc
Anonymous 6y Related Why did China not intervene in the 1998 Indonesian anti-Chinese riots? By 1998, the vast majority of Chinese Indonesians were Indonesian citizens. As such, China couldn't do very much as China has a long standing policy of non interference with other countries’ domestic affairs. My mother, who was very scared, called the Chinese embassy and asked what the Chinese government was going to do. This is what the Chinese embassy person told her. We had to abandon our home and the whole housing complex in West Jakarta was looted and burned down. Thankfully none of the female was raped. Our family moved to Australia. My family has been in Indonesia for generations. My father is the 5th generation born in Indonesia. My mother is the sixth. In fact, my father’s family is a peranakan (mixed) Java-Chinese family from 4 generations ago. Our extended families include Javanese, Batak, Padang, and even a white American through marriages. Many are Muslims. Yet, we are still seen as exclusive, non patriotic, perpetual foreigners, pendatang (new comers), corrupt, gamblers, etc etc. I will teach my descendants this history. Never again will they live in Indonesia. The whole place can go to hell for all I care. 6.4K viewsView upvotes
Why is that Chinese in Thailand, in Philippines and Indonesia can assimilate into the their respective nationalities by adopting the countries language and education. Why not the Chinese in Malaysia do the same. Why must the Chinese in Malaysia wants their own Chinese schools and speak their own language. So, the process of assimilation in Malaysia is as good as non-existence .
All 3 countries export prostitute. The least you can do is say “you are welcome” for building this country together. Every race and culture has its strength & weakness. ASEAN no1 is Singapore, no2 is Malaysia.
Indonesia already has Mandarin class, can have Chinese names, friendly with China, so what do you think? You should update yourself, this is a multi polar world!
Because all these places you speak of treat all the races in their country the same. They don't practice different treatments. And sincerely, if there are no vernacular schools, how many nons can actually get a tertiary education? Public universities only offers a minimal placement to non-Muslims, which leaves most nons private universities as their only option. And these are very pricey. Most would aim for scholarships , and this means you have to be very competitive. Chinese vernacular schools improves competition among their students, (to the point the stress can be toxic). But at the end of the day, it's a chance for a brighter future.
I think China will protect the Malaysian Chinese or at least there interest and investment in Malaysia. Malaysia is the largest Chinese population outside of China and today China is a superpower. China is involved is peace settlement from Ukraine to middle east etc. I don't see China not involve if another 1969 racial violence happen. Because of ketuanan malayu, malay supremacy same as the nazi master race Chinese look to China as there motherland.
Indonesian Chinese 11 million. Thailand Chinese 7.1 million. Malaysian Chinese 6.8 million. US Chinese 5.5 million. Singaporean Chinese 3.1 million. May 1998 Indonesian racial riots, the Chinese sent 3 navy vessels to rescue around 200 Chinese nationals, and declare the event as internal problem. China sent 3 ships, while Singapore provided a country. They did not look upon the Chinese who holds the nationality of other countries as one of their own, so they won't come to anyone's rescue simply because of ethnicity. Although they do have the habit of trying to claim the Chinese ancestry of most successful people around the world. If you succeed, it's because of your ancestors from China and their Chinese DNA hence China can shamelessly claim undue credit for other people success. However, if you fail that's because of you... Just look at the Gaza conflict, where one of the hostage taken by Hamas is 50% Chinese. Yet the flood of messages were simply serve them right for emigrating to another country. Singaporean Chinese does include a lot of those who seek refuge in Singapore during May 1998, as well as many Malaysian Chinese who feels like they're 2nd class citizen within their own country. I don't think Singapore actively tries to poach, rather passively accepted many. I think it's best to not leave it to the mercy or the magnanimity of others for the protection of anyone.
There won't be another 153 incident! Circumstances have changed. China has non interference policy, so they would not interfere. Also, Chinese to China are citizens from China. They get confused if you tell them you are Chinese LOL. Only in Malaysia, we are separated by 'race' so in Malaysia, it is either Malays, Chinese, Indians, Kadazans etc etc.
Hi Fui Soong good to see you in the video . I have forwarded to a few of your old friends.. Your knowledge of economic , local and international affairs is well researched . Greetings from Perth . Jimmy
China will protect Chinese Malaysians like the Russians protected Russian Ukrainians. The Strait of Melaka is of vital national interest to the Chinese that is at risk of a US blockade, China would prefer to have direct control of the strait for its national security interest, they just need a valid "reason".
Countries need to protect their own national security against US aggression which has caused so much sorrow n destruction to so many countries around the world
U mean the PRC only scapegoating Malaysian Chinese as a "reason" just the way famine days that push them out during the Mao regime?.. that's a very sad truth indeed
China will acted not because of Malacca strait. China just need to agreed with Thai to open a canal to cross direct, bypassing M.strait. China send warship to Mexico to protect Chinese in Mexico (The massacre in Torreón) and also give stern warning during Indonesia's massacre on Chinese! So its the bond, not solely on interest. There are even a special ship call "hu hua".
You said it with a valid reason, China will protect its overseas Chinese people when war occurs. There was a recent speech not long ago, by President Xi, regarding this issue. Even for those other countries nationals which needed help along the way that were caught in a war.
Thanks for your frankness. One point I note is that you mentioned that the Chinese group who only converses in their mother tongue live in their own bubble, and separate from the rest of us. This is probably the same for the Malays. And maybe that is why we have such a different worldview. On this point, we need to communicate better to understand each other better. We have to learn better. Know your neighbours, and learn to appreciate their difference.
What you say is true but it was by design! UMNO wanted each race to live in its own enclave like people in Lebanon and they find that an easier way to handle the country!
For the link to the English translation of the China - Russia Joint Statement 16 May 2024 as mentioned by Fui, here it is:
insap.org.my/china-russia-joint-statement-16-may-2024/
thanks everyone!
BTW, When is Russia returning the past occupied territory in the North East region of China, since there is no limit cooperation ...?
Of cause there i no need to use English in the said no limit document., it is between Russia & China. There aren't any laws in the world that saying there must be English alongside.
CIA propaganda is working in Malaysia too? I guess that’s why they say the US has its propaganda outlet in every country in the world! Every time I fall asleep that damn Google forced my phone to open up on a CIA propaganda channel! Damn it!
which country passport is better ?
Most mainland Chinese want Evil Communist China to go divided into multiple countries of democracy like Europe and no longer be in the totalitarian and dictatorial control of Beijing rascals
Chinese Malaysians are Malaysian no two ways about it. China Chinese are from China. We are from the same stock but we are not the same country. So there is no country we can go back to even if some parties can shout that all they want. Ini tanah air kita. Selamat Hari Merdeka
This is a true Malaysian spirit.
This govt should encourage & implement more muhibah family programs example tele matches live & aired in Astro to promote greater understanding & integration of all the races in malaysia.
@@sonnykhoo7236 what you say is true
Would China come to the assistance of Hongkee Falungong? Malaysian Chinese, are you better than them?
Tell me one example of someone who think he can move to china as a Chinese citizen. I can safely say there is none, it only exist in fools mind.
If Malaysia is at war with China, I will take arms and protect our country, Malaysia! The best country in the world! I;m Malaysian Ch
inese
Trust me, bro? 😂
Questionable. 😂
@@AbdulQadir-sp9gc If he is Malaysian Chinese then I am Captain Kangaroo 😁
Best country in corruption being arrogant.
@@jeremyjosh3058 there are millions of corrupt china men fleeing to singapore where the Malay muslims are weak. Bribery is china culture in life. Even tv shows they bring gifts..
I am born and bred in Malaysia. I am Malaysian first. Of course I am happy for China's rise for it does help show the Westerners that Asians are as good or even better. But it doesn't even cross my mind to seek "protection" from China. Protect me from what? Racism, religious discrimination? This is part and parcel of multi-racial, multi-cultural and multi-religious countries.
Are you aware of the race riots in the 60s?
@@JettoGospel yes I am aware. First of all, I do not think such riots will occur in today's Malaysia. The bumis have much more political power today - yes, they will still use the nons as boogeyman but realistically we are not significant enough to threaten them. The bumis are fighting one another for power - the ultra religious vs the so-called moderates vs the Malay nationalists. Secondly, even if it does, will China send troops to "rescue" anybody? China today is all about their own interests
Remembered d visit of d Chinese ambassador to Petaling Street, on d eve of d planned racially- charged red shirts rally? It helps cooled down d temperature despite accusation that he was interfering in our domestic affairs.
@@henrymlim history repeats itself unfortunately. A stronger China will immediately reflect on local Chinese whether the Chinese want it or not. If China is weak like it was in the 60s, they will believe they can get away with murder which they did but if they do it now, it is a different story solely because they do not want to mess with a nation which has superior power economically or militarily. Being a south east Asian Chinese, in most of the Malays' or indonesians' eyes means you don't belong there according to them as they have claimed it all as evident in the riots of 1969. You may believe that you belong there but not in their eyes unfortunately.
Be aware of the way the Malays look at you. You are not one of them. See clearly and not with rose tinted glasses.
I have accepted my status as Pendatang. Malaysia is to me a Permanent resident with a Passport to travel everywhere AND given a vote which I can use to express my opinion on a candidate. I encourage Non Malays to try adopting the same mindset. I guarantee your stress level shall be greatly reduced.
Good that you sedar diri. Lol
Now arent you both a idealist and realist!
I guess nationalist is kinda a bad and non modular system.
Language based one was and still is much better.
Yes, I think most have adopted this mindset. Like Fu said, it really doesn't matter anymore. Honestly, as a shrinking minority, what can we do? Live and let live. There are will always be politicians who will make scapegoats using the non Malay community but give another 100 years, there may be very few non Malays left. So wonder who to blame at that time?
when you're more than 3 generation living in Malaysia you're not pendatang, I'm as malay support that
@@omarmahadi8219 haha.. with all the facts in the internet that is the best way for chinese refugees to adopt. Malay passport open the western world to them that a China passport cannot. All these foreigners want are Malay pasports. Very powerful. Not be a muslim or soeak Malay. You are not a Malay. Dont lie. Malay are muslims. And islam is all encompassing
It’s all to do with the mindset. I’m in my 60’s. My parents introduced me to the other ethnic groups before I turned 5. We had neighbours who were Malay, Indian, Sikh, Peranakan, Singhalese ; all living on the same street. We still remained a Malaysian Chinese family but we were free to visit each other’s homes and have meals together; totally respecting each other (free interaction and sharing celebration). So, it’s the parents and the environment which builds the mindset. Btw, I’m totally educated in English, but I can speak and understand BM and Mandarin.
Why cannot we consider ourselves as human beings instead of being divided by race, creed colour, nationality country, religion, etc. We have witnessed & are witnessing that these separations are causing endless pain, grief & suffering. Let us try to live & operate with humane values.
The world isn't black and white. Human beings are emotional creatures. We're just more complex than you think so
Melayu, Cina and India Malaysia must stop debating about races. This is not important anymore. Everybody must join hands together to make Malaysia great and rich. Enough politics, start working hand in hand. We look at small problems without looking at the more serious issues. Wake up!!!
Totally agree we have no time to concentrate about other things we need to focus to build up our nation in order to do better..
Let's face it.
M'sia will never be united when someone is "superior" to others.
Wow lajunya tengok podcast. Published 52 minutes ago, and already watched a 1.5 hour podcast.
Btw, if you watched, the academics argued against assimilation. They don’t perceive to be equal, rather they’re indifferent against cohesion/unity.
I feel that these two women are very careful to express themslves.
@@ridhuanrizal9696
Why are you dead-set about one-way assimilation?
Why don't Malays assimilate into the Iban culture of Borneo?
We are no longer living as united people as how l found life was 40 yrs ago we did not see each other as You are Malay- You are Chinese You are Indian or You are Punjabi
We are blaming politicians we need to blame ourselves we are not unity government that word is bullshit(unity government)
The same reason a Chinese would not assimilate to non-Chinese culture@@RUHappyATM
These two ladies are extremely knowledgeable and articulate . I learned a lot from their experience.
Hopefully there is another discussion . Thank you
chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
People are not neccesary to assimilate, but we need to understand each other more. I am malay btw.
Lousy culture of certain species trying very hard to manipulate and exploit others
From security and power perspective, many so called modern country, nationalists themselves is against it.
Cause they believe even being majority, then they will suffer. Their country will be taken.
Thank you Mr. Khoo, very insightful episode. Two very intelligent and wise ladies, much more intelligent than most politicians we have to deal with in Malaysia. I think this episode is very insightful for the Malay community especially. I have close Chinese friends and open minded to discuss sensitive issue because of the close bond we have. I learn so much misconceptions on both sides. When I have conversations with friends who are Malay, majority of them would hold on to distrustful perspective over the Chinese community and when I talk to Chinese community will have similar point of view and point out that I am an exception among many which is not true. At the end of day, politicians care more about votes than us and play the hero which narrative fits them the most at the time... As we can see what's happening now.
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
Obviously ....... these 2 ladies are much-much cleverer, far sighted and understood the dynamic of the world order ..... unlike many idiotic policy makers who still stuck in their yesteryears' 2Rs issues!! The fact is everyone knows the main reason why there is no "real" cohesion and unity in this nation simply because of 2 tiers policy that this country is upholding since decades ago ....... As someone cited, how can you be so total "loyalty" when you are not treated equally, just and fair ..... Of course, there are lots of "resentment" and unsatisfaction no matter where you are if you are treated as such ..... Race and religious supremacy must not be how this country supposed to go forward. Too bad it was not discussed and mentioned during their discussion ...... perhaps, it is a sensitive issue to talk/discuss on podcast??
@@user-ic4do1zd2m That is why we must drive the chinese refugees back to china before they become security risk. China already sending communist army to singapore. We are not afraid of china kafirs.
Politicians will say and promise one thing and do another. Its called "survival" 😂😂😂
Race should not be an issue, nor religion. There are many Muslims in China, and maybe more Chinese Muslims will settle in Malaysia in the future.
But extremely religion idealogy will hurt a nation for future growth. Just like natural disasters, always slow down the progress.
We built friendship with China not because we want protection. Just bussiness and friendship. Do not expect more.
Thanks, for the wonderful conversation from three of you. Highly appreciated! Hope to hear from all of you.😊❤
I have no idea why some locals think the fact that Indo-chinese were assimilated back then was something to be proud of. Integration of language, culture and races in Malaysia is what we should be grateful for in the wave of globalization nowadays. We will learn and strengthen our bahasa kebangsaan no doubt, but don't tell us to forget our roots. Just imagine if one day the majority became minority, will they be willing to forget their roots? Its not right to do so isn't it?
Thats why i feel strongly One Nation school is important at the same time 3rd language must be compulsory to everyone be it mandarin/tamil. So other races will not forget their mother tongue (no more banana chinese) and Malay can understand mandarin/tamil too.
@@intanmaziah I believe you are coming from a positive stance and I respect that. But unless the right or far right politicians and their supporters are really sincere and honest in this ‘sekolah satu aliran’ idea by showing true acceptance and tolerance towards our diverseness, or else it is merely just a fabricated notion claiming to unite all races with hidden motives and objectives.
Being Malaysian Chinese, how do we have expected China to protect us? 2015 when UMNO Jamal Yunus threatened to bring his red-shirt youths to demonstrate in Jalan Petaling China Town, the then Chinese Ambassador Mr Huang Hui Kang visited the place on 25/9/2015 a day before to support the Chinese community.
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are he thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
You have selected memory. You are telling half the story. He said during the visit that "The Chinese government opposes terrorism and any form of discrimination against races and any form of extremism and Beijing would not hesitate to speak out against any threat that may affect China’s ties with Malaysia". Immediately Red shirt rally in Petaling street was called off. The Chinese Ambassador has indirectly averted a serious conflict in Chinatown.
@@caseyliew86 don't be a drama queen lah it's only a demonstration. It's a freedom of speech you don't get in Chinese majority countries. At least in a demonstration they don't behead malays like your forefathers did during insurgency
You can't blame Jamal.
Fed up with BERSIH that often demonstrated in sectors of KL that is deemedMalay majority, Jamal brought the demonstration to Chinese area( Petaling Street)
Only them the Chinese understood how demonstrations affect business
@@shamshulanuar7718Anwar started the demonstration with reformasi slogan with mainly Malay crowd but you blame it on Chinese? You are the type that shout DAP for 100 years while the world pass us by.
Some say they are truly Malaysians.. but they speak national language like damn aliens
They only want out money , then buy land house at china and Taiwan, do u still think these chinese mtfk have patriotism?
Lidah dorang tu Allah jadikan pelat.....tu susah sikit nak cakap melayu.....cakap omputih pon bunyik cino.....kikikikiki
@@saizan3193 Multi-racial la, so many languages to learn. Don't expect perfection in every language. It's for communication purposes.
@@user-co5cg9di8rnonsense
Just like Malaysian Government will not protect the Malays in Christmas Island or in South Africa because why should we? A government of a Country protects its citizens, not everyone of a certain ethnicity living in some other places. This title does not make sense.
Anyone who was at the mamak stalls watching Olympic badminton games will understand the deep love we have for our country despite all the differences and forces pulling us apart.
No need their protection, we felt safe and peaceful here in multiculture country Malaysia
Bs
@@AntiIslam-u6b
Hello antilslam. Causing trouble eh?
@@AntiIslam-u6b anti christianity Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves who steal Malay land.. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
@@AntiIslam-u6b say what u want but we doing well, love in harmony and prosper
@@AntiIslam-u6b cry about it. No one's wants to live in a Chinese apartheid. Even the Chinese are running out of China and converting to Christianity and Islam.
I am Malaysian first. Race and ethnicity should be put aside if we want to make this country great. We got to keep fostering every Malaysians from all walks of life to come together to face competitions from other nations and survive we must. We are sailing on this Malaysian ship and the new world order path we are sailing into is gonna be more stormy than our predecessors have gone through in the past 67 years. You can’t jump into the South China Sea and hope China’s navy ship would savage you. We are on our own the minute you’re born in Malaysia’s Bolehland and only as one ship, one Malaysia we can thrive. This is the most important message that our young generation must listen to and make their homeland in Sabah, Sarawak and the Peninsula proud to live in. May the success of this nation be with you. Happy Merdeka to all fellow Malaysians 😊
I’m Chinese first cause that’s my heritage and ethnicity. Hence I call myself Chinese Malaysian.
Please! May I add that Chinese navy won’t even save a Chinese National in South China Sea, let alone a Malaysian Chinese.
The HSR project is destine to fail. I hope Anwar’s government monitors Indonesia’s high speed rail project’s profitability and stop the project ASAP! China’s domestic HSR project has been running at a loss after operating for so many years.
Nepal’s second largest city’s airport was built with China’s instigation, without due consideration on pragmatic considerations for profitability and ability to repay the debt, at overly inflated price that China construction company charged.
All these should serve as an alarm to projects/Loans extended to Malaysia.
Chinese BRI is the best thing for Malaysia, don‘t be short sighted.
Global economic is going into a slow reccession after Covid, and China vs US trade war, but thats not blame it onto BRI projects.
There are economic cycles, and you should invest / buy when the market is low, and sell when the market is high.
Its actually the best time to invest in infrastructure now and wait for economic up turn.
@@merrick6484 I don’t think anybody is shortsighted, but you are the one that has grossly underestimated the evil CCP regime. If you have actually dealt with mainlanders then you will know what I mean.
I am not going to argue with you, time with tell if the BRI is the best thing for Malaysia.
@@User-19382 it is good to be proud of one’s heritage, I was too! Until I lived in China for more than 10 years and saw the true colour of the CCP regime. You don’t have to take my word for it, just go and live in China and see it for yourself.
Well done, my ears are locked to voices from you three and each word has words and thank you for sharing greater foresight toward 2030-2050.
Thoroughly enjoyed this pod cast covering both local and international. Its more clearer now listening to the problems that we face in Malaysia which I think has a lot of truth to it. We are wasting too much time doing something impossible . Nice One 🙏
Why do you need protection from PLA. You are the thieves. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
TQ for this great topic & discussion. At our spheres of influence, there are much being discussed and done to attempt to bridge, East/West Malaysians, religious believes, dialects differences, economics levels differences and others. It's our cultural obligation to cultivate harmony and peaceful integration within our community. We do pray and hope that our efforts can benefit our communities, country and the world.
China unfortunately has an enormous population and with it enormous challenges to manage. China would love to be able to protect Malaysians, all Malaysians in fact if and whenever it can, I believe China will. Amen.
That is beyond absurd. China protects their citizens. In English, people who are ethnically Chinese and people who are citizens of China, are simply called _Chinese_ leading many people to confuse and conflate the two together. I don't know Mandarin, but I've been told, in Mandarin, they are two completely different words. So there is no confusion. China's governments (both of them) runs on Mandarin, not English.
What a great discussion! I stumbled on it as I was hoping to find out the latest on Malaysian politics and the reality on the ground but was blown away by the very well-informed and clear-mindedness of your guests, especially Ms Soong. Great content!
chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
I’m thankful and happy with the current situation now in Malaysia. To my fellow Chinese Malaysians, let’s all move on from the “equality” ideology. As long as Chinese education, language, name and religious freedom are still legal, we should focus our life and conversation with other more important topic.
You only think for yourself...There are a lot of poor Chinese Malaysian folks out there. Remember Malaysia heath DG, he us actually a Chinese, but was given away because of poor. Move away from what if one is poor?
Your mindset is ok but also irresponsible for future generation. We are educated differently, we don’t riot for no reason but it doesn’t mean others won’t. If the country couldn’t develop & continue to grow, when finance is in shambles, riot ensued and the “master race” of this country are brought up with education of entitlement to its core where even the Quran focus on us vs them mentality, they will look for trouble with you or your children. So if we don’t help them to change (not imposing change on them, it has to come from them willingly), the problem will come back to bite us in the future. Change is difficult, comfort zone is easy. Life now in Malaysia now is pretty alright, it could be worse but it could turn into Bangladesh any moment where even their own people are not happy with the quota, cautionary tale for us.
@@truthful3777 so your argument is, being equal will get you out of poverty?
@ycteoh You know how much subsidy being offered for them to start business?? Most of them secured branded goods and the Chinese can dream off. A lot failed. Even promoting Furniture to Europe, tyor M get RM50K allocation but Chinese only get RM20K allocation. Just one twi slot for Chinese. How much RM20K can one display in Europe. Worst the counter nobody maned, all shopping around. When European came to Malaysia counter, nobody to be found. All went around Europe to go shopping. That is why overseas exhibition bring Zero Results. Whi pay? Tax payer paid.
Further, scholarship to go overseas, many Malays can ve found in Europe with families being sponsored. Chinese amd Indian have to sacrifice their houses to send to children to overseas.
@@ycteoh you have no brains nor dignity. Having less equality means more success?
Omg. I got goosebump listening to these 2 women. especially Fui. They are so knowledgeable and powerful forces. They tell everything. Whatever that Sheikh Imran told before is being breaking down by these 2 women. Must invite them again. I cannot sleep anymore. So many informations, goods and bads. Thanks Chua! Good questions asked by you. 🎉
please google their background b4 u give ur comment
😮😮 WE ARE CHINESE MALAYSIANS, WHY WOULD WE WANT PROTECTION FROM OUR GRANDPARENTS ANCESTRAL LAND. AS CITIZENS OF MALAYSIA, WR SHALL BE LOYAL TO OUR OWN GOVTNN COUNTRY. IN THE EVENT OF A CONFRONTATION WITH CHINA, WE WILL FIGHT ALONGSIDE OTHER MALAYSIA PATRIOTS AGAINST ANY INVADING FORCE TO DEFENF THE NATION N N ANY POTENTIAL EXISTENTIAL NATIINAL SECURITY YYREAT TO MALAYSIA N HER PEOPLE.
Because of May 13, PAS, affirmative action at our expanse...
We are at an impasse because we adopt the live & let live mantra, everything else is just wishy-washy surface stuff. Tto speak bluntly we just don’t trust each other and I am sure the Malay would agree. Geopolitics will force itself onto us, so how we react that it would determine our nation future.
@@brainwashington1332 May 13 provoke by chinese DAP onto malays. Its teeth to teeth. nothing to do with PAS.
@@brainwashington1332 Why do you need protection from Communists PLA. You are the thieves who steal Malay land. Its the Malays who need protection from communists China. China killed 1400 british, aussies, nz and 20 thousand malays in 1949 war.
Well said
I am chinese + orang asli. My face look like malay. Every one thought i am malay because my name is like malay and since i dont know speaking chinese. I mostly speak bahasa asli at home and bahasa melayu and english outside home. My parents are christian but i become muslim after i further my study. For me malaysian are the mix of everything. Eventhough people call me malay muslim, i always remember that i am mix of multi racial, culture and religious. This is the unique of malaysia.
China as a state sees Malaysian Chinese as good for their tourism industry. That's about it. For Malaysians, Chinese businesses take all the jobs, send projects back to Beijing offices, appoint their own nationals in Malaysia, leaving nothing for local businesses. Is this sustainable?
Until you have an alternative where you can compete like Thailand, Vietnam, or even Indonesia, talking about China’s business model is like pointless bantering. The least we can do is still negotiate for something with China because China still care about scoring positive political points unlike now where EU don’t want our palm oil, we should just shut down Proton because it will send jobs to China.
I am sure u know nothing about Malaysia. Malaysia has bumi quota if u are operating a business. You need to hire certain amount of local Malay in order to operate.
This is a very insightful discussion. Looking forward to more conversations with them in the future. Really learnt a lot. Gonna prep for the turmoils of the coming decade.
3 million chinese has left , migrated. Since 1970. Australia, New Zealand,Canada, USA, UK,Taiwan, Hongkong & i known a guy in Switzerland. Finally our neighbor Singapore!
But i had to admit, we are more peaceful, as socially, Msian are more mature now on living in a multi race n culture nation.
Please back your 3 mil figures with data
@@AlbertLimKualaLumpur Doesn’t matter about the stats, a lot have migrated, even Malay. There is literally a Malay Kampung in Australia.
People migrate from every country e.g. american , european, etc etc migrate to asia. #No big deal if Malaysians hav migrated. #The main concern for M'sia is Will it be changed into an Islamic State if a party like PAS win in future GE ??
@@Veloce2000 it is inevitable b/c of shifting demographic. Muslim will never have the capability to self correct and move away from Islamic rule which is pretty much conservative at its core, hence the need to use the word “moderate Muslim”. Look at Arab Spring, an epic failure where Islamist always take over when there is a void in power. It happens too consistent to know that Moderate Muslim will always conform to conservative Muslim because they are louder and more…violent.
Everyone wants to live better, even Malays also go to work a in Singapore, Australia, UK and America, that's why in Malaysia now you see many foreigners coming to work in Malaysia such as Bangladesh, Indonesia, Cambodia they become replacements, every exit should be a replacement, that is the solution, not crying, it's the same in the UK now, now the UK is not stable, many UK citizens run away because the country is not safe, the economy is declining, jobs are stolen by foreigners and more
China continues to grow strong and has already protected the global Chinese community from discrimination and disrespect.
It's actually a double-edged sword.
Msian race based politics and policies has set back Msia by decades. China won't interfere with others internal affairs. But it will rescue the Chinese if it gets violent, eg in 1960s China sent many ships to repatriate Indonesian Chinese back to China. China built a kampung Bali in China for the Indo Chinese. Google it, this is well documented.
That is good. #MalaysianChinese should never provoke malays to run amok (which hardly since the malays are peaceful and tolerance muslims) or else China will have trouble to sent ships.
I must say Malays are very benevolent.
In all honesty, I must sayany Chinese politicians from DAP are playing racial games.
@@shamshulanuar7718the one complaining about Olympic uniform for being overly Malay is MCA, not DAP. Even most of the DAP politician all speaks better Malay than MCA, go listen.
Hospitality is definitely a positive traits of Malay. Benevolent, possibly and hopefully sustainable because we have a peaceful transition of power in government with no blood shed but it was a difficult process.
@@shamshulanuar7718 Really when the chinese won the election they cant stand it and start the riots ...
Yes, l still remember it very vividly. CHINA can still remember how our forefathers remit money back to build schools, roads etc etc. We always teach our children to repay kindness with kindness ( kan ern ) n this tradition is still going on. I m not trying to be naive.
Good one! Especially the second half of the discussion. Once we peek out from under our coconut shell, we suddenly see so much that we have missed out on. Rita & Fui are the under the radar voices that we should hear more from. Thanks for featuring them Chuang. Would love to hear more from them. Maybe together with Kishore Mahbubani! Different styles but same confidence in the SEA region. That conversation would set the room on fire!
Could try to get George Yeo too.
Kishore and George are pretty much bias towards China but George has an interesting and fresh take when he analyze China from cultural point of view as he talks about paper or how he is a Christian but embrace Taoism philosophy. The West seems to find it fascinating on China's ability to sinicize or the sinicization of religions such as how they are able to bring Taosim, Confucianism, & Buddhism under one roof, "harmonizing" the 3 different religions. I couldn't remember the names off my head but there were many Christian organization who actually spent time & resources trying to study Confucianism and then compare each other religion while trying to find the common ground or common values. I suppose George is that one example of how he is already capable to be both a Christian & a Taoist at the same time.
Personally for me it's quite easy such as Jesus teaching of turning the cheek, essentially it is no difference from the virtue of 忍（Endure, Tolerate, Put up with) or the proverb 忍一时风平浪静退一步海阔天空, the rough translation would be endurance & compromise will make the conflict much easier to resolve. Sadly this is something that doesn't seem to be common with Islamic teaching. Sure the Muslim preacher will go around talking about how they believe in Jesus or Moses but then their ultimate goal is to convert you because their follow up is to say your holy book has been corrupted whereas their holy book is the only one that is original, pure, & sacred. The intention is already impure & disingenuous which would surely lead to direct conflict with the West easily. In fact I have met Muslim preacher who believe Jesus turning the cheek is a stupid idea, which not only get on the nerve of believer & non-believer alike but it plays to the stereotype of how a Muslim is a Jihadi who is waiting to....Basically It is like 24/7 direct confrontation as oppose to finding common ground where they can avoid conflict and coexist. At the end of the day, Christianity & Islam are 2 sides of the same coin trying to convert the others, but Christian are more charismatic while Islam is an all out submission as Lee Kuan Yew put it.
Speaking of which, it seems that the sinicization of Islam has always been on the agenda too as announced by Xi Jin Ping and many of its official. How that pans out is remain to be seen but I believe Malaysia's progress will be at the center stage of it. At the very least, China seem to be able to bring all different Muslim adversaries to come to the table. Saudi (Sunni) normalizing relation with Iran (Shia), Palestinian 14 different groups agree to put aside their infighting, Russia having to bite its tongue and sit together with Taliban.
I am of Malaysian and Sri Lankan origin. I have had sleepovers with my Chinese friends where Malay was the only language that brought us together. You are right, we don't fully understand the intricacies of each other's food, festive days, science, religion, etc. Malaysia has only recently gained independence, so it is a young country. Fragmented by former colonial rule, healing is going to take some time. 😅
Agreed on class division- I am afraid my family wont mix with others due to the level of racism we faced from all sides.
Why blame colonialism for diversity? So brainwashed & fashionable to use the term colonialism. The British did help to get rid of chinese communist in Malaya. Otherwise it maybe part of China.
Chinese didn't like malay
Why people think we Malaysian Chinese wants China's protection because we are ethnic Chinese is mind-boggling. I AM A MALAYSIAN.
May be because many Chinese didn't know speak malay😂😂
After listening from start to finish. What Fui said is what is what I actually feel. Nice to learn about 3 pillars. I've always felt in my gut about the language side. And that is why I sent my kids to SJKC although I'm national school anglophonic chinese.
I don't see the distrust and disunity because either I haven't participated or I just haven't been a victim in my day to day life. Only that there is talk on it that I can't even make heads or tails out of it.
Chinese schools for china citizens. Get lost!
Not from Masia.
I read quite some comments. I cant say much about general people's view, perception.
But in general, the issues with Nationalism and nationalist is that they(people in power) tend to assume, non majority people, be it based on origin, religion, language, region etc. as a security concern and threat.
And to make matters worse, those intelligence agency of many countries tend to have and facilities brutal, criminal alike abominable mentality people who are far far worse than animals and does disgusting stuff everywhere and writes plenty reports full of falsehood and their so called bulsh*it stuff in what they belive.
And always sub-conciously keep in it in mind Politicians are not exactly good people.
Plus those outsider govts(mainly those so called west bast**rds) and probably the countries bordering you country tries to fuel things up and destabilize your country. Or the govt simply fears those bordered countries or the people in question.
So what im saying is, yeah your are right. Most people should go through the same life regardless of minority or majority.
But the scenerio changes if a individual/group gain power or try to pursue power and it a minority group. Including but not limited to the minority group want some changes which "govt people " decides dosent align with them regardless of good or bad.
Or perhaps simply beacuse the govt. view your or your group(minority) as potential power house.
from little to unbearable losses will appear in one's / a groups life. It could be like- threats/warming, facing prejudice, misconception to "getting killed". But the worst part is, if they decides to toruture and not kill. one will be screaming to kill him/herself each day until he/dies dies.
And you know what, in many cases you wont even know what you did for which they are doing this you.
Seen many innocent people who had to face it. And at the moment of writing, many were still facing it around the globe unfortunately.
Backstory people forgot. The Malays never wanted the chinese to be citizens of Independent Malaysia but in the 1950's it was tbe height of the Malayan Emergency and chinese formed 90% of the CTs. Under the British "hearts and minds" program they forced the Sultans to give chinese citizenship in post independent Malaya to break the Malayan Communist Party else the chinese would keep on fighting with no stake in Malaya. The malays were never happy about it there why the concept of bumiputra was enshrined in the constitution between the new citizens and Malays.
Half-correct. Malays dont care who become citizens. It was the equality rights that was not agreed as native of the land.
The bumiputra constitution is to protect the weaker which is you at that time. The population ratio between Malays and Chinese were almost equal then. Besides, Chinese were well off and dominate the economy. Therefore, they need this policy to protect the bumiputra. But look at present day, Malays are already outnumber minority but they still need that protection and that policy and its advantage has been abused by their own crook politicians
Yeah.. unwanted slave migrants brought by British
@@stmpo5595 and for winning election
Brian, you just missed because your cut off point is the 1950s. If you were to look back just slightly earlier. A few years, say 1948 ...
What happened in 1947 - 48? What happens when Britain leaves, the people there set up a new country, but they don't give everybody citizenship? Like when half the population is left out in the cold, abandoned? Ooo ... everything would be fine ... yeah, these are people who don't learn, and repeat other people's mistakes. 🤦
I am a Malaysian Chinese, my culture is Buddhism and confusionism. As a Buddhist, I practiced positivities as a way of life meaning less hatred and accept peaceful interactions among my neighbours of other races and to respect the government of the day on their policies base on our national constitutions. Confusionism in us is to respect the elders and our ancestors all the way from mainland China. But I see the most Chinese in Malaysia has lost that culture due to their new culture like Christianity. I believe religion makes the difference in our Chinese community in China. If you noticed for example, the Prime Minister recently made a decision of sending Palestinian people to Malaysia for medical treatment, that was critism among the Chinese and these Chinese are mostly Christians. This is because Christianity has western influence through their churches. But for me as a Buddhist, I supported the PM base on humanitarian grounds because Buddhist teaches us to be compassionate to fellow human beings. This is just one example, another is most Chinese Christians don't like mainland China and the reason is Chinese government is authocratic to them basing on the western influence. I might be wrong but this is what I see it.
The Single Universal unity factor is Kindness. I believe no one rejects a kind person
As a Malaysian living for half my life in HK, this podcast is very informative and agree with 90% of what is said except the part on Taiwan and HK is not particularly nuanced, unlike the previous discussion of Chinese in Malaysia.
It’s very focused on the megatrends and economic inevitability but doesn’t highlight the vitality of civil society in Taiwan and loss of freedoms of speech and representation and direction in HK.
A discussion like this podcast wouldn’t be carried out with a lot of overt or self censorship in many countries and I think it’s something that many Malaysians take for granted.
UK literally went after people posting on social media even when they are overseas. They would have extradite Elon Musk if they could. People who still harp on freedom of speech just seem ignorant or clueless about the global trend on technology & geopolitics. Like are you not seeing what happen in Gaza-Israel that has shattered the illusion of freedom of speech? It’s a matter of national interest.
@@RetiredOrangUtanyes. agreed and scary. No more freedom of speech.
In my observation Western influence in Hong Kong has brought some good ideas but really exported brainrot in the form of liberalism, self hate, and white worship. You think this western media makes people more educated but they're the most brainwashed of all. The right direction for Hong Kong is pride, confidence, development. The neutering of Asians must stop
@@dunzhen Hong Kong is sick. Just imagine yourself as Hong Konger who cram up in a small cage for 50 years. Combine that with many other social problems and then it simply explode through any means necessary. Human need space & greenery and this is one area where Malaysia are blessed because we seem to focus alot on it. Hong Kong even made many movies based around their mental health and murder that are inspired by real world incident, such as Murder of Abby Choi. Also from cultural level, if you observe you will then realize Cantonese people from Hong Kong seem to possess high stress level, hence they are known for their lack of hospitality in services industry and their ability to swear a lot.
My commentary:
That's doesn't matter，the point here are -
-China tourism boom in Malaysia
-Influx of migrate to boom in properties
-MM2H booming
-Foreign direct investment in Malaysia, thanks to China vs US battle
-Durian export to China
-China is number one trading partner in Malaysia bla bla bla...
Agreed these are the narratives that matter on the ground. The business people are all for these developments. All about capitalism.
As a Malaysian Chinese staying in China for the pass 18 years , this podcast is absolutely eye opening
You are china chinese. No such person as Malay Chinese..haha chinese refugees were poor people like rohingyas, running from wars and famine. They have no intention to be muslims or speak Malay. Only mca put their name down as citizens applicants. That is why they are chinese colonial mind and migrants untill today. Chinese schools must be closed. Mandarin banned. Like in Indonesia. That is the only way to control babrbarians from China from stealing our land.
I remember reading , during the riots of Sukano to Surhato era in Indonesia, China, in their impovished state after the civil war, not too long ago, did send old ships to rescue the Chinese being "g", n dropped them on Hainan island.
Those were long ago yrs., n China is different now, but, l think, for economic interest, China will, if they can, look out for their interest.
Thank you, for this Interview.
It is due to each and every one of us NOT wanting to listen, NOR wanting to speak up, because the people who have authority and power to make change DID NOT HAVE EARS.
Malaysian Chinese are Malaysians, period! Just like American Chinese are Americans..
Childish and ignorant
@@tokaitrading8335 you are the one. Do you not know china has an oppressive system? You know what happened to HK? That is just one example
because of we malay not white enough like mat saleh seem more privilege in chinese mind..
@@chongkengtuck305 American Chinese good in their national language.. unlike that fake Malaysians..
Obvious Malays and Chineses know that both races have to cooperate to make Malaysia a heck of a country . MAKMUR AND KAYA ! We dont have to be best friends to do this , cooperate , just ENOUGH-LAH ! Malays are kind people . Chinese are also kind people [mostly] . We be fine .
Very informative and well researched. Thank you.
听完了，对于两位女士非常清晰的认知感到钦佩，跳出了种族问题，而是看到了整个大的地缘政治和历史变局对马来西亚的影响。马来华人厉害
CHINA government will never strain her 'hundred years' relation with MALAYSIAN government for some bickering #MalaysianChinese. Period.
@@tenwritersscreen5511 really? All I can say is that you have grossly underestimated the greedy and corrupted CCP regime.
The US has virtually stopped China from advancing their claims on South China Sea, Malaysia is indeed fortunate that Philippines have a new president just in time, China is facing resistance on Spratly islands, otherwise the CCP coastguard would have sail to Malaysia water and claimed it is theirs.
The world is our oyster. I lived 5 years overseas. 3 years in UK & 2 years in Singapore. And a short 3 months stint in Brunei. I quickly adapted to those countries. Mother Earth is for all humans. Regardless of race & nationality. If you feel uncomfortable where you are, relocate.
Exactly, perhaps migrate.
But i must say those language based borders were better than national based border
English is the lingua franca @@CarlRobinson-q3z
How long you gona migrate until you realize the West is anti globalist now? Australia just reduce slots for international student.
@@foreveryoung999 and? You manage to do all these with a Malay passport..lol
@@tiries3471 sounds incredible ah?
You can interpret what 'protection' is.
What China did to the people of Palestine, I will term that 'protection'.
Sometimes, it is what happens behind the scene that counts.
Don't veer away from the main topic.
Palestine issues are too complicated for us not living in that region to understand.
Note how the Arab countries are not stepping up to help them and welcome them into the country.
The question is why...????
You are either a CCP lackey or been brainwashed by the CCP?
I am a Malaysian Chinese who lived in China for more than 10 years. If you think CCP is such a benevolent government, then please, be my guest, emigrate to China
Social collectivism is not for Malaysians, not when 'Ketuanan Melayu' is being pushed by the Malays. The commentators are also confused as to where global wealth currently resides. The wealth they say is in the US is not aligned with global views. The US wealth is a figment of people's imagination. When the US is US$35 Trillion in debt.
Ketuanan melayu is a retaliation against Chinese racism. Only when the Chinese forgo their supremacist and racism will we continue to move forward
@@zulamy3472What is Chinese racism? Look at America, ruined by overdose of affirmative action. US used to be country where multi-racial, multi-national, multi-religion that can live together, people laugh at “racist” joke at their comedy club, combating racism using racism.
@@RetiredOrangUtan America ruined? Kahkahkah you must be a delusional ccp bot. The Chinese can't even hold a candle to the Americans.
@@zemry-mh4sq Using same mindset like you is like one trying justify what happens to Muslim in Palestine. Do you know what happens with the recent England riot? Racism is a complex issue but ultimately we should not be let words carry too much power or we end up with the America now, over sensitive with hyper affirmative action such as DEI that make racism worsen. Everyone become entitled in their own silo, hard work or meritocracy is no longer celebrated.
If you think about it, we're all pretty much the same except culture, mother tongue languages/dialects, religion and lifestyle which differ us by 20% - 25% that's all. Any other differences are basically, expected like you like liverpool, and I like man u.
At the end of the day - We all want safety, security, freedom, comfort and modern progress.
Malaysian Chinese is a mixed blood with local such Malay, Indian and the native and this make the Malaysian Chinese mentality is totally different from China. Even though Malaysian have relatives in china but there prefer to die in Malaysia. i'm a malay my uncle married to a chinese....
And also many malays have chinese ancestry even the racist malays 😂 i myself also have chinese grandfather and a lot of my malay friends have chinese grandparents 😂
Why would China do that? Ethnic Chinese in Malaysia are Malaysian born and they aren't Chinese citizens. The Malaysian Chinese can take care of themselves.
I think most Malaysian Chinese are more inclined towards Taiwan and Hong Kong before. Now China is more rich and powerful they have changed color
Yes, who is rich and powerful. They go to who.
agreed they are not patrotic they just swing to wherever its good for them.like lim guan eng won`t be surprised he will say he is now chinese malaysian bcos China now is a big brother!!th-cam.com/video/r-cwzza8vkw/w-d-xo.html
@@mohd6537 and you know that because?
Who told you that?? We called China as Motherland China for a reason.
Nah. Ever since my grandparent generation the malaysian chinese hade been identify themselves based on their respective dialect province in china.
China got no char kway teow , no chow mien , no muang kwang kueh & no penang laksa so how to say i love china ?
Everyday i am so happy with my malaysian chinese food and kopi O .
What is the intention of this discussion? We Chinese support China bc we hope for the protection from China? What a weird logic you try to inject to audiences.
I born here as Malaysian, although my grand parents originated from China. We have no actual connection with China. I am proud Malaysian that appreciate the multiracial environment we live in.
I respect and admire the development in China, that's all. If they are doing the right things, everyone will support them, please don't try to frame our local Chinese as pure China supporters.
One of my friend is very anti China, he is Chinese educated as for your info, so education background is not the only factor. It's all down to which media that affects them most.
Malaysian Chinese is Malaysian and no longer CCP. I am Malay and worried of either weak or corrupt malay leaders rather than chinese 35% community. However we don't want them to make us as Palestine which been push away from economy that should be balanced accordingly and appropriately.
I'm a 2nd generation Malaysian Chinese, went to Chinese school. I'm so so so glad that we DID NOT become like Indonesia or Thailand, I think Malaysian Chinese are blessed, because we get to keep our culture, our Chinese school, our name and our identity! At very young age, I already know what Malaysian Chinese have been treated as second class citizens in Malaysia, we were rejected by the government. Generations of Chinese grew up under that kind of environment and you expect Chinese to assimilate ? You are kidding right ? I think Malaysia Chinese and the Malays and Indians need to learn to live peacefully together, Chinese in Malaysia learn to live and thrive under oppression from Malaysia government for decades and we know how to do it and still thrive. I hope all the Chinese and future generation of Chinese continue to protect the Chinese culture and Chinese school in Malaysia.
@@zemry-mh4sq 了不起！这么了不起华文学校收不起你这个天才
Ironically the Malays be sending their children to the Chinese schools.😂🤣
learn live peacefully u said? how u can be "2nd chinese generation" living and get rich in Malaysia if not because of the biggest race in Malaysia being very tolerated and "learn and accepted and respect" other race culture came to tanah melayu. so u can go to chinese school and kept your culture here. the problem is chinese politician kept poisoning other race mind challenging and DO NOT "learn and accept" that Malaysia mainly belong to malay. the simple result is i would say 70 percent Malaysia chinese could not speak national language "fluently". only God know how many percent not even know how speak national language. so don't be ungrateful.
@@aqmalmal3976 I should be very grateful that Malaysia government accept Chinese as 2nd class citizen in Malaysia? Do you even know how Chinese people survive in Malaysia under the oppression of the government? I think most Chinese accepted that Chinese is the 2nd class citizen in Malaysia and learn to survive and thrive under this condition. From the way you sounded, I bet you are one of those that hate Chinese in Malaysia and think that Chinese should go back to where they came from? Believe me, this was said to my face many times, that was why I left after high school, and I haven't been back. Try to put yourself in other people's shoes, look at the government policies, maybe you will find a little sympathy in your heard to feel bad for the non-Malays.
Chinese in Malaysia didn't like malay and Malay language
Msia has lost its way sadly. In the trend of the political system, it is totally a case of conquer and divide!! 😪😪
Are we listening to the same podcast? They say explicitly, the Chinese community are essentially indifferent
Chinese will always get rich, and there is no doubt about that. Most of Chinese will succeed wherever they go, no matter where they originally from, China, Taiwan, H.K or Singapore.
Same with China which will dominate the world sooner or later. And Chinese culture will always survived and grow, just like last few thousand years.
Its fact the world needs to accept, no matter if you are a Malaysian or American.
The question is, how politicians to deal with the fact.
@@merrick6484we already knew that...thats why 'hak keistimewaan orang Melayu and bumiputra' have been implemented...it's never about superiority...it's more about safety and survival of the indigenous...we don't want to end up like the native aborigines in Australia or the native Indians in US ...
This is a common mis-perception, if you're well read and travel enough then you will see minorities thriving due to the circumstances given, Chinese in South East Asia, Jews in Europe and America, Indians in Africa
Once China become number 1 super power, all smaller nations will be kind to OC.ie Indonesian Government.
@@kealee6350 In many areas, China has already surpassed the West. In a research done by an Australia think tank, China leads 33 out of 44 emergent technologies. But China has a huge population, it will be some more years before its per capita income reaches an equitable level.
Lol usa has billions of debt or was it trillion😂😂.
I guess they can print money and those so called country leaders like slaves suck their master and send their own peoples hard worked produced products to usa to get those papers 😂😂😂
"Electoral democracy, which can lead to domination by the most populous ethnic group has to be held in check by something like a bill of rights." (Marvin Muasher)
Indonesia riots in 1998, China didn't do anything. So why should they protect overseas Chinese? They are pragmatist. They will take care of their own first unless threats against their overseas assets.
Maybe because at that time chi a was not strong enough? Remember how china behaves when it gets stronger. When it get stronger it will not let anyone be cruel anymore
You forgot during red shirt protest in petaling street what did the then ambassador of China did?
@@ELGtheMAN when did that happen? You may not understand that China now has been trying to fight the imperial west agenda. I never said China is strong enough. Not yet. Wait and you will see
china has a non interventionism policy. it could only intervene when its citizens are concerned. china has denounced dual citizenship long ago, due to this exact reason somewhat. but chinese embassy suring that time already issued warning for targeted people to leave. they even accepted ethnic chinese indonesian and anyone who claimed to be chinese even without passport to board the rescue vessels. at the same time, kmt govt spread lies about the rescue as cpc propaganda and they would be jailed after reaching the mainland. history is a good teacher. and thousands of years of history is a profound sage. learn from it.
You are wrong. China give stern warning to indo, and if they don't stop, ship will be sent to evacuate Indo Chinese. The record is in China foreign diplomatic affair. Sometimes they need a strong valid reason, as they try to adhere to not interfering in other country affair before Taiwan is unified. After this is accomplished, then u will sense how u r part of their own.
Thank you. May more blessings for you both
#China has more concerns with her domestic problems than to think other chinese in other countries all over the world. Why should it matters what happen outside the mainland. Even more chinese nationals seek refuge illegally in #Malaysia to have better living. In general chinese everywhere dont really care about politics as long as they can peaceful survive untouch. Unlike #MalaysianChinese who blame politic and government for being "malay' even their livelihood are untouched. Their Kiasu mentality must stopped. As a citizen, you MUST have that sense of belonging to fight defend and die for that country whether you are the minority or the slave. Whether the harm cause by China or India or anywhere. Then can you only announced your loyalty as true Malaysian.
The Chinese Malaysians has done so much for Malaysia's progress because this is also their country. My grandfather serve the Police during British Occupancy in Malaya back in the day. He risk his life fighting the Communist movement in Malaya back then. I would do the same today. You comment on something you know nothing about.
You are either ignorant or very Childish behavior , spew venom and short sighted vision, do the real Kiasu treat you as Malaysian except taxing and all sort of taxation other than that they ask you to shut up . They will utilize religion and special status to silent you .
how many Chinese apply for refuge in malaysia?
@@viralcelebs5064 I feel you. My family been through something similar. My late father was previously in the civil service and he work there for over a decade. He has constantly given his best for his job. He speaks, read and write Malay fluently, but the issue was he was constantly being instructed by his superiors to teach and pass down the job knowledge to new Malay recruits. Over time, he starts to notice he was always doing the same job and hardly gets any promotion, while the new recruits he was assign to guide was later promoted so much faster and has since became his superior. Because his salary hardly increase without promotions, we were so desperate when the time has come when my sister needed to further her education in university. We sold our house just to pay for my sister's university education, and move out to start renting places for our family to stay for over another decade without a home. I still remember that day we sold our only home, my mum was in tears. On that day, i remember my dad told us, "Never Again". He then left the civil service, and re-started as a low level bell boy in a 5 star hotel. His work ethics never changed, and he work hard while studying part time for a Hotel management degree, and work all his was up to eventually be a GM of another 5 star hotel and we then had enough to buy a new property for our family which we can call home again. During his struggle, i remembered the countless times he told our family at this same "kiasu" stereotypes or racial slurs directed at him when he was busting his ass to work his way up the hotel management while studying part time for his degree. None of his colleagues or friends know about his goals of wanting to buy a home, of wanting enough money to send his children to university, of not letting down my mother again. He just kept working hard. My point is, the people that always call us slurs such as being "kiasu", are the once who are usually less hardworking or less successful in their own life. We can even see, Malaysians calling Singaporeans "Kiasu", but we never read or heard of Japanese or Taiwanese giving similar stereotypes to Singaporeans. Similar to the West, the middle class calling the rich "FILTHY Rich" when it was their hard work that took them to success. There is always some negativity when someone works hard to eventually be successful. Here we are today, with so many slurs being thrown at us such as "Pendatang" or "Type C" or whatever. Worst, we are now even "educated" as to what being a "true" Malaysian is. The irony!! All I can say is the more successful you get, the more enemies you make. Accept it and move on.
If it wasn't for the Chinese Malaysians, we will end up producing maids for the world, similar to what is happening in Indonesia and The Philippines. Maybe it is their "kiasu" characteristics that saved Malaysia economically. Let's be a little more grateful.
20:37 LKY abolished vernacular schools and FORCED English upon Singaporeans. As a dictator, he did that.
China is soon becoming the world number 1 in about 10 years, Chinese language is the language for high technology, large business, knowledges, etc, English speaking is not that elite anymore as before, so learn Chinese language is the solution even for Malays😀
What chinease? Mandarin is from north
Malaysia should broaden the race policy to help poor chinese and indian citizen. This will ensure a progressive Malaysia.
Respect to the two ladies. I wish to hear more from Asian Academics who actually understand things from and on the ground while are also aware of things from a Macro level to offer better insights of social issues from both perspectives. We don't have enough of these kind of conversations from Asians or even Africans from Africa. Such discussions are often dominated by narratives from Western Academics.
As a former advertising person, to say that the English speaking Chinese (G2) were biased towards ad spend in the English media is also another generalization. It depends on the specific product and the segments they are targeting. Companies (the drivers of ad spend) are not stupid. They know who are buying their products. Money talks louder than race or language.
Malaysian Chinese are realistic the position they are facing and managing as best as they can to survive.
They have choice and choices including migrating to other countries to live.
Little did a lot of Malaysians are aware that there are many Malays actually chose to take up Australian citizenship.
Singapore and China are also their options.
As to whether China will come to protect Malaysian Chinese, that will evolve and in the Chinese Constitution it mentioned that as long as you are " Chinese " you have rights including to take up Chinese Citizenship.
Protection will definitely the implied condition too.
So why many chinese mainland are fleeing china and illegally take refuge everywhere in the world including malaysia.
When racial problems broke out in the Solomon Islands between the natives and the Solomon Chinese who are local citizens, the CCP Govt. send ships to repatiate them although they were not citizens of China! This gave the impression that China today will intervene if the lives of Chinese are threatened in any way,not withstanding they are local nationals! This is a new development as the CCP Govt. in the past chose to look the other way when Suharto's army masacred many local Chinese in Indonesia during the army crackdown on Communists!
当时的中国，连条向样的船都没有拿啥帮，弱国无外交这句话放到现在也是适用的
Thanks for your factual comment.
So yes, feel free to take up chinese citizenship then. Lol
47:00 finally somebody said it, sarawak is not as "harmonious" as people thought it would be, it's just the same as the rest of Malaysia except the Islamic parties have lesser influence there that's all, when it comes to race relations it's still similar to Johor, Selangor, Pahang or any other parts of Malaysia. "sarawak harmony" is just a facade made by their politicians so that they could divert the attention of local Sarawakians of their internal problems by playing "us versus them" all the time.
THE RACE ISSUES BECOME A CLASS ISSUES.
I'm Malay. Malay is a race very easy to live, work etc in society. Other races only must respect the right of Malay as Bumiputera and Islam as Malay's religion. If you take care and dont cross border on that, we can live togetger in harmonies...
The pushback & recalibration of perspective by Fui is so refreshing, and feels like the actual adult opinion in the room
Malaysian Malaysia was what LKY was pushing for and Singapore was kicked out. Singapore has moved on.
if you are poor and need help, welcome to go China Embassy and beg for help, see China gov will help you or not 😆
My two nieces were given free university education feee accommodation , free air tickets for parents to visit them in China, from your statement clearly indicates you know nothing about China politics and policies, I doubted you had been to China.
Tiny little Singapore, since LKY time, has great clout in the world and regional geopolitical matters. While Malaysia, past and present, at federal and state leadership don’t have any foresights, and have been busy with domestic politics and issues and happily practicing graft and corruption for personal gains.
Anwar & Mahathir can actually be considered someone of the same calibre but in different domain, LkY is seen as a statesman protecting the interest of Singaporean, Asian, & subsequently Chinese hence the West like to look to them to talk about Issue in China. Whereas Mahathir & Anwar is on the domain of Islamic world and they seem lesser of an Asian leader but a Muslim one because Islam always overshadow any topic they touches on. Besides that, Mahathir or Anwar didn’t do much in leading the Islamic world, in fact Professor Tajudin argue that the time Anwar spent in prison for more than 10 years due to Mahathir is time wasted which has allowed PAS to take the driver seat. Hence they would seem less capable when compare to Lee Kuan Yew who always try to steer its country into a diplomacy of consistency because they are a small nation that require trust to function or investor would fled.
Basically Singapore has become the light for China when they are in turmoil such as the visit by Deng Xiao Ping to Singapore where many lessons were brought back to China. What have the Islamic world learn from Malaysia?
Nothing.
In fact, it is almost like Malaysia existence is to prove Islamic value are unfair in essence where Kafir value are brought to life in Bumiputera terms while Jizya is apparent from the quota system ranging from university to companies 30% hire. However this also prove China capability as a 2000years capitalist society as imply by the Ali Baba term.
I wonder if there is any lesson we can derived from the rich history between Malaysia & China to reshape and fix the world. Whether Western led world order is unsustainable but the Malaysia China one where one is seen as host while the other is seen as guest. As long as we agree that every nation in the world need to retain its 70% “original” population so that they don’t always have to fight the question of impending existential threat, I am sure once they feel secured & relief mentally, it would not be difficult after for the local populace to come up with an impartial policy that see everyone as equal citizen (eg without the need for Bumiputera), thus marrying the best of both world from governance in the West & the East. This is much better than play pretend that we are one people when we are obviously not. I thought we are in the age of global village?
Confuciunism has the idea of 天下大同Great unity where we seek commanality but at the same time remain different, 同中求異 異中求同. Unity in diversity.
Sarawak & Penang should become Independent to ‘unlock the shackles’ that’s hindering their progress.
Unlikely as they depend on federal money. Besides the Chinese can't steal more malay states after LKY took sg.
@zulamy3472 to which they contribute HUGELY but get delayed development as that budget is held by Putrajaya.
You mean federal money ie Petronas money has been stolen from Borneo for the past 60 years.
@@zemry-mh4sq they all bullied the chinese and asians by spreading lies and false flags due to their own western barbaric uncultured mentality and insecurity. good thing china never backed down like india, japan, south korea, philipines, etc. china, the true pillar of civilisation against the anglosaxxon menace. more and more westerners are also supporting china against the evilness of the white zioglobalists.
@@zemry-mh4sqCCP need to stir up Chinese nationalism with overseas Chinese
I feel so smart after watching this. Great content!
1. I beg to differ. China is very Xi centric until his era is gone. This is evident from the change of the maximum 2 terms presidency.
2. The United States under Democrats has been avoiding direct war and not like what you guys said.
3. Both of you are very wrong on young chinese ethnic Malaysians less leaning towards China. You are right, those over 60 years have sentimental values towards China. This also being recently due to the rise of tiktok. Same goes to those under 30 years old. Most of them are in favor of the China values, also due to tiktok. And recently, the influx of many Chinese to Malaysia.
I feel this discussion is very messy and leads to nowhere concrete.
And please don't glorify Putin, the aggressor.
You're confused which nation or leader is the aggressor! The US has been going around bringing war and disaster all year long and now committed genocides, it's appalling this F Country still being adored
I don't blame Putin for the attack on Ukraine. The US and Nato has provoked the security of Russia by trying to let Ukraine to join as member of NATO which means US missiles can be deployed in Ukraine closer to Moscow. On top of that the US has supported all the Ukraine N@zi groups like Azov Battalion, Right Sector and C14 to kill ethnic Russians in the Donbass region of Ukraine since 2014 and they do not respect the people's referendum of the Donbass region to break away from Ukraine to join Russia. Check out the documentary Ukraine on Fire by Oliver Stone.
Yup, way they paint Taiwan as joke was very low level of professionalism in politics.
@@limitlessinmind it is a joke, their national service is worse than Singapore. Taiwanese on the grass root level are not preparing for a clash with mainland China despite the rhetoric. Even if you don’t believe me, at least look at their voting preference & demographic.
@@user-vs6gd6mh2w 1. We don’t even know if Xi is really the man in charge, he could be only the front or power has shifted and split between party members, for example Li Qiang handle economy. If you understand their politics, Xi still needs to be selected by the 7 different parties in CCP. To make it simpler to understand, if US has deep state, then surely China has something similiar for someone to rule behind the scene as you have no idea how many of their scientist has been killed. That is why Huawei CEO Ren Zheng Fei say they don’t let their scientist go abroad to do any speech or receive any awards, motto is to stay anonymous & low profile. MH370 is one of such examples, the official story is the plane went missing but it is an open secret now the US has something to do with it because the plane hold more than 20 semiconductor specialist from US enroute to Beijing & subsequently Tianjin to setup R&D center. Both US & China probably have classified information of Mh370 but to disclose it would means to escalate this into an all out war which neither side do not want, yet.
2. Democrats avoiding war? Obama literally bomb people to smithereens with drone while receiving Nobel Peace Prize, if not for the prize he probably would have kill more. Ukraine war started under the watch of Democrats.
The discussion wasn’t messy, the intro already show how they used to think differently about China until new information surfaced that changes their mind.
To be an ethnic Chinese, a black from Africa or a Caucasian from Europe, before you self proclaimed to be an "Elite", you should be well connected in both Western and Eastern culture.
Preferably to master at least an Eastern Language if you can, if you were from the West.
English (as a language) is not sufficient anymore.
If you wish to be FREE from one sided media Brain-Wash, and open up to new concepts and opportunities.
I went to a Pharmacy, Well I spoke to her in English,although I saw a Malay worker there,the Cashier a Chinese insteads asked the Pharmacist loudly the correct price of the Med in English or BM, the price was wrongly quote,instead of correcting the price in English which I can understand, They spoke loudly in Chinese,I have to interpret myself that the POV dont hv the right code n price.I m just amazed, Speak openly in Malay or English..They dont sound friendly
You have just shown intolerance.
I have Indian friends speaking Tamil around me.
That doesn't worry me as I have trust in them.
Maybe you have a bit to learn.
Why Malay always complain when they have the privilege and I guess they do not understand the gratitude they are receiving ...
Love this kind of topics. Keep up with the gud work. ❤
Malaya history and civilisation only starts around 14th or 15th century...
What about those earlier Chinese that have been here doing trading and opening gold and silver mines....?????
The British came and all previous settlers were all lumped into modern static tics as new immigrants from their respective countries... So the question is fair or not for applying such sweeping rules.... 😮😮😮😢😢😢
if you're here for the title "China Won't Protect Malaysia's Chinese", 1:14:44 is when they get to it
"Son of the Soil", Bumiputra and using religion like Moslem dominantly, single-handedly make Malaysia an Apartheid country; unable to unifying the people but to separating the Chinese, Indian, Eurasian to forming groups or to fighting back. By favoring, helping the Malays past the time frame, to unlimited time or forever would stiffen, hardened their hands to independently earning a living. It is learning how to fish rather than giving a fish is a valuable lesson.
Interesting talk .
The whole mess the Chinese and Indians being second class is due to MCA and MiC fsiled to protect our birthright. They shouldn't ask for independence as the British are Fair and Just. Just like Australia, they still.not gain independence and still.sing God Save the King, ssme with Malays before independence but the Queen instead. A lot of Malaysian migrated to Australia for a better life.
My DAD a former police Ranger enlisted during the British days. After Merdeka, he grumbled wvety day due to racism in the field force. He eben.said he saw young Chinese students asking for application for polive cadet was turned fown with the officer on desl. No openings. Later Malay boys came over with the sane officer giving out the forms immediately. Right before my Father eyes.. Even our barrack house, rocks being thriwn at night. Even in police foce racism can happen what happened to civilians life. M6 Dad tolf me , it is better under the British rule as they are Fair and Just. Look at UK, even minority Indian can be a PM .Can it happen in Malaysia? I highly doubt so
Merdeka is a time for Chinese and Indians to cry as iron balls are clamped to their feet under the Malay Government
UK in chaos under Indian PM. wake up!
@tenwritersscreen5511 Nope the UK have enough of peace religion...Nothing to do with Indian PM. The Indian help UK economy and never imposed their religious restrictions unto the people.
@tenwritersscreen5511 A lot of Indians in UK are Christians and blended well with UK society. Imagine British people were being scolded because of eating in front of them. Occurred public places to conduct prayers. Raising Palestinian flags in UK. Indians and Chinese don't do that. Definitely that boiled them...
Incorrect, many Indians in UK are still Hindus including Sunak, that or Sikhism or Islam. Christianity is not their top 3 religions.
Malaysia shouldn’t have ask for independence until 1990.
Malaysia isn’t ready to self rule by the locals yet.
Indonesia officially recognizes its ethnic diversity and includes a wide array of ethnic groups within its national framework and support each ethnic group's cultural preservation initiatives, e.g. Javanese (40%), Sundanese (15%), Madurese (4%), Malay (3%), Bugis (2%), Papuan (1%), Batak (2%), Minangkabau (3%), Balinese (2%) .....etc
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Why did China not intervene in the 1998 Indonesian anti-Chinese riots?
By 1998, the vast majority of Chinese Indonesians were Indonesian citizens.
As such, China couldn't do very much as China has a long standing policy of non interference with other countries’ domestic affairs.
My mother, who was very scared, called the Chinese embassy and asked what the Chinese government was going to do. This is what the Chinese embassy person told her.
We had to abandon our home and the whole housing complex in West Jakarta was looted and burned down. Thankfully none of the female was raped.
Our family moved to Australia. My family has been in Indonesia for generations. My father is the 5th generation born in Indonesia. My mother is the sixth.
In fact, my father’s family is a peranakan (mixed) Java-Chinese family from 4 generations ago.
Our extended families include Javanese, Batak, Padang, and even a white American through marriages. Many are Muslims.
Yet, we are still seen as exclusive, non patriotic, perpetual foreigners, pendatang (new comers), corrupt, gamblers, etc etc.
I will teach my descendants this history. Never again will they live in Indonesia.
The whole place can go to hell for all I care.
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Why is that Chinese in Thailand, in Philippines and Indonesia can assimilate into the their respective nationalities by adopting the countries language and education. Why not the Chinese in Malaysia do the same. Why must the Chinese in Malaysia wants their own Chinese schools and speak their own language. So, the process of assimilation in Malaysia is as good as non-existence .
All 3 countries export prostitute. The least you can do is say “you are welcome” for building this country together. Every race and culture has its strength & weakness. ASEAN no1 is Singapore, no2 is Malaysia.
that is the special of Malaysia, we don't do things that others doing 🤣🤣🤣🤣 even Malaysia Tourism slogan, Malaysia Truly Asia.
It's an agreement for Malaysia to achieve independence, smart eh?
Indonesia already has Mandarin class, can have Chinese names, friendly with China, so what do you think? You should update yourself, this is a multi polar world!
Because all these places you speak of treat all the races in their country the same. They don't practice different treatments. And sincerely, if there are no vernacular schools, how many nons can actually get a tertiary education? Public universities only offers a minimal placement to non-Muslims, which leaves most nons private universities as their only option. And these are very pricey. Most would aim for scholarships , and this means you have to be very competitive. Chinese vernacular schools improves competition among their students, (to the point the stress can be toxic). But at the end of the day, it's a chance for a brighter future.
No other nation that people who said he is the citizen but didnt know to speak national language ,only Chinese in Malaysia 😂😂
I think China will protect the Malaysian Chinese or at least there interest and investment in Malaysia. Malaysia is the largest Chinese population outside of China and today China is a superpower. China is involved is peace settlement from Ukraine to middle east etc. I don't see China not involve if another 1969 racial violence happen. Because of ketuanan malayu, malay supremacy same as the nazi master race Chinese look to China as there motherland.
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Indonesian Chinese 11 million. Thailand Chinese 7.1 million. Malaysian Chinese 6.8 million. US Chinese 5.5 million. Singaporean Chinese 3.1 million.
May 1998 Indonesian racial riots, the Chinese sent 3 navy vessels to rescue around 200 Chinese nationals, and declare the event as internal problem. China sent 3 ships, while Singapore provided a country. They did not look upon the Chinese who holds the nationality of other countries as one of their own, so they won't come to anyone's rescue simply because of ethnicity. Although they do have the habit of trying to claim the Chinese ancestry of most successful people around the world. If you succeed, it's because of your ancestors from China and their Chinese DNA hence China can shamelessly claim undue credit for other people success. However, if you fail that's because of you...
Just look at the Gaza conflict, where one of the hostage taken by Hamas is 50% Chinese. Yet the flood of messages were simply serve them right for emigrating to another country.
Singaporean Chinese does include a lot of those who seek refuge in Singapore during May 1998, as well as many Malaysian Chinese who feels like they're 2nd class citizen within their own country. I don't think Singapore actively tries to poach, rather passively accepted many.
I think it's best to not leave it to the mercy or the magnanimity of others for the protection of anyone.
There won't be another 153 incident! Circumstances have changed. China has non interference policy, so they would not interfere. Also, Chinese to China are citizens from China. They get confused if you tell them you are Chinese LOL. Only in Malaysia, we are separated by 'race' so in Malaysia, it is either Malays, Chinese, Indians, Kadazans etc etc.
China was involved in a peace deal with Malaysia authority during May 13 which we all don't know.
Indonesia has the largest Chinese ethnic population if you leave Taiwan out of the stats.
Hi Fui Soong good to see you in the video . I have forwarded to a few of your old friends.. Your knowledge of economic , local and international affairs is well researched . Greetings from Perth . Jimmy
China will protect Chinese Malaysians like the Russians protected Russian Ukrainians. The Strait of Melaka is of vital national interest to the Chinese that is at risk of a US blockade, China would prefer to have direct control of the strait for its national security interest, they just need a valid "reason".
Countries need to protect their own national security against US aggression which has caused so much sorrow n destruction to so many countries around the world
You must be living in fantasy. Dream on.
U mean the PRC only scapegoating Malaysian Chinese as a "reason" just the way famine days that push them out during the Mao regime?.. that's a very sad truth indeed
China will acted not because of Malacca strait. China just need to agreed with Thai to open a canal to cross direct, bypassing M.strait. China send warship to Mexico to protect Chinese in Mexico (The massacre in Torreón) and also give stern warning during Indonesia's massacre on Chinese! So its the bond, not solely on interest. There are even a special ship call "hu hua".
You said it with a valid reason, China will protect its overseas Chinese people when war occurs. There was a recent speech not long ago, by President Xi, regarding this issue. Even for those other countries nationals which needed help along the way that were caught in a war.
In my experience no problem is insurmountable with good universal education and real civil rights.
China still look after the well being of overseas chinese.
Whither they want it or not
Thanks for your frankness. One point I note is that you mentioned that the Chinese group who only converses in their mother tongue live in their own bubble, and separate from the rest of us. This is probably the same for the Malays. And maybe that is why we have such a different worldview. On this point, we need to communicate better to understand each other better. We have to learn better. Know your neighbours, and learn to appreciate their difference.
What you say is true but it was by design! UMNO wanted each race to live in its own enclave like people in Lebanon and they find that an easier way to handle the country!
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