This was the MOST intensive, actual sets, real-live production in the history of games at the time of its release and a record it may still hold. The second place one? WC III! :) Still, as of 2002, the most expensive computer game ever. Produced for a cost of roughly 10 million dollars (imdb.com)
The attachment that you build with your wingmen was an unexpected surprise. This game taught me much about politics and the use of proxies for warfare.
Having read Fleet Action recently and rewatching this, I can now actually see where Tolwyn is coming from. I know that the games don't consider the novels canon, but taken together, they actually add a lot of depth to some of the characters, especially Tolwyn.
There are some games that will always have a special place in your heart. For me those are the Gabriel Knight games, most Bioware games and Wing Commander III and IV. It had such an incredible production-value for that time, the acting was top notch, the story was great, intrestring characters and it had enjoyable gameplay to boot. At the time I was just awed by the freedom of choice the game seemed to give you in which way the story would progress. Only in my second playthrough I noticed my choices didn't matter that much. It was and is an absolute classic and I really would love to play a game in this genre with this quality of storytelling again. Does anybody have a suggestion (preferably on a gameconsole)? Never been able to find anything this good again.
Wing Commander 3 and 4 and Sins of the Fathers were major parts of my childhood. I might have been too young for the content matter. But them Voodoo murder ain't gonna solve themselves Grace
Even if the graphics are out of time, gameplay, Story and acting is Not reached by modern Games. I am proud WC4 player from 1996. It was my best christmas ever holding the game in my hands
Jason Bernard (Captain Eisen) died shortly after this game completed production. I fell in love with his acting on Wing Commander 3. The loss of Jason Bernard was a loss to the entire Wing Commander Community.
Randall Watson Jason Bernard passed away shortly after the filming of the movie, "Liar Liar." He played as the judge. There's a memorandum to him in the post credits in that movie. I agree with you. He played a great character & his acting was stellar, very touching at times. His passing was a huge loss.
You gotta love stories like this when the status quo ends up being the villain. This was such a great game, and i hope future generations after us will see the brilliance and excellence of the games of the past and great games like this..
OMG collision-crash damage was too insane in this game. And entire 10 or 15 min gameplay down the toilet by a kamikaze opponent flyng straight into your cockpit just to piss you off.
I played this game (Pentium 120 mhz, 2X CD-Rom) long time ago, I really like use fighter to crash enemy's ship, because you can see the serious battle damage on your ship when you fly back ! They should remake wing commander 3,4,5!
It is as close as you will ever get to Wing Commander. A remake of Wing Commander is never going to happen, and even if there was one, it would be a continuation in name only without Chris Roberts.
***** Correct, that was made by Digital Anvil, which CR founded. As was Freelancer, but that was released after Digital Anvil was bought by Microsoft and was somewhat tainted. Chris is now running Cloud Imperium Games to make Star Citizen, and this time it won't get tainted by producers, because there are none!
the unrealistic thing about the space station is that its too close to jupiter. the planets magnetic pull is so powerful, if that were really jupiter theyd all be dead
Sure, because if they had the technology to build the space station close to jupiter, they definitely would not have figured out how to combat the magnetic pull right? Do you even think when you spew nonsense?
Wow Mark, talk about "Obscurity", geez! Never heard of this, I spent the last 5 years in coffee houses playing Jedi Academy/Outcast and every fan mod I could find online for them.
I would say that this is the definitive Wing Commander game, and yes, in a way it most certainly is. However, due to the fact that it references a lot of things from the previous game, I can't really call it that as it picks up the narrative from the previous game and is barely a self-contained story. The plot takes an unexpected turn and the Kilrathi are barely seen in this one, so if you are new to the franchise and want a more accurate representation of Wing Commander as a whole, you are better off playing Heart of the Tiger instead (Wing Commander III). That one gives a more in-depth look at the core Wing Commander-setting and has a more cut-and-dry story about the evil Kilrathi and you as a hero trying to save the human race. However, in terms of story quality, scriptwriting, character development, action, suspense, graphics, music and almost everything else (along with a superior budget), Wing Commander IV improves on the experience immensely and it is, without a doubt, the BEST Wing Commander game of all time, if not the most representative. Make no mistake, as good as WC3 is, WC4 is even better. WC4 takes the characters that you love from the third game (the core cast anyway) and make you love them even more here. The intricate plot, the drama, the pacing, the branching choices... its all perfected here and will leave you remembering the game for years to come.
When i was younger I had some issues with the vibe of WC4 over WC3, but in time I understood what the idea was behind it. Like Star Trek Ds9. Man when Saint Helens comes through that Jump Point. I had the exact opposite emotional response to Hobbes his betrayal. It was one of the most epic moments of my youth.
Yup. Good old Maniac. He's been in the series from Wing Commander 1, but he was only done by Tom Wilson when the games started using video like this in Wing Commander 3.
+Wolfshifter Casper Van Dien is more of an extra. Can't remember him being in any scenes other than the first one and the one where they all land on the borderworlds carrier.
Wolfshifter Yeah ikr :) me too, I was a big fan of Starship Troopers at the time (I didn't play this at release, then again, ST only came out 2 years after this).
At 26:03 you skip past the part where Maniac gets slapped by a woman he is hitting on... that's why he looks around awkward and touches his jaw, smiling/grinning :) Why you skip it though?
Instead of rehashing Star Wars and killing characters they could remake this the proper way ! Even here it is better then TLJ :) Even factoring in CGI disparity :P
Hell of a game. They probably should have called it quits with this game though. Prophecy was a bit of a weak send off for the series. Especially considering what they did to Blair :/
+Andy Weller He later uploaded a digitized copy of his personality into a ZAX computer and attempted to colonize the ruins of Washington D.C. He was ultimately defeated by a rather smooth-talking vault dweller.
***** No need to apologize. If I remember correctly the DVD version was pretty hard to come by as it was only bundled with the Creative Labs DVD Blaster kit. Though I know that the GOG downloadable version does feature the DVD quality video like what is shown here.
I can't believe you forgot the Telamon cutscenes. They depict the horror of the GenSelect device and is integral to the story. th-cam.com/video/hU9SbEfjb48/w-d-xo.html
wow.. wish I had the time to play games all the time or had no life to where I had to play games for entertainment and lack of friends. its no wonder child obesity exists today and not really before 35 years ago... to many couch commando's..
I like si-fi.. thought I would see what this was... never heard of this.. did not know it was a game video movie... im probably older then most everyone in these comments or on this page. I work, 6 days a week 10 to 12 hour days.. have for 30 years. no such thing as video games when I was a kid or into my 20s.
in my opinion WC3 and WC4 have aged tremendously they’re still a lot of fun to play in 2021 even as someone who’s been playing them from the beginning
This game along with wc3 deserves a remake with cutting edge gameplay using remastered versions of the old cut scenes!
I love Pliers! He’s still one of my favorite characters
Damn man, this game had more known actors within the cutscenes than most films do nowadays...
This was the MOST intensive, actual sets, real-live production in the history of games at the time of its release and a record it may still hold. The second place one? WC III! :)
Still, as of 2002, the most expensive computer game ever. Produced for a cost of roughly 10 million dollars (imdb.com)
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@@Tigerman1138 Even five years ago your comment is OUTDATED ... because ... have you ever heard of STAR CITIZEN?????
i wish i had known about a game with Biff Tannen and Luke Skywalker being co workers back in the day
@@Ericb1980 it was a headtrip
The attachment that you build with your wingmen was an unexpected surprise.
This game taught me much about politics and the use of proxies for warfare.
+bishop Surprise? You haven't played WC3 I take it? :)
Just wanted to say thank you for the movie. I deeply miss playing these games. My old hands can't even play the new games. Again my thanks
"chalked up another one for the Maniac"..... ahhhhh... when pc games were at their best...
Having read Fleet Action recently and rewatching this, I can now actually see where Tolwyn is coming from. I know that the games don't consider the novels canon, but taken together, they actually add a lot of depth to some of the characters, especially Tolwyn.
i never knew there were books!!!
Winning is not important but doing what right is in the of all.
There are some games that will always have a special place in your heart. For me those are the Gabriel Knight games, most Bioware games and Wing Commander III and IV.
It had such an incredible production-value for that time, the acting was top notch, the story was great, intrestring characters and it had enjoyable gameplay to boot. At the time I was just awed by the freedom of choice the game seemed to give you in which way the story would progress. Only in my second playthrough I noticed my choices didn't matter that much. It was and is an absolute classic and I really would love to play a game in this genre with this quality of storytelling again. Does anybody have a suggestion (preferably on a gameconsole)? Never been able to find anything this good again.
Carrinthe : Bioware are masters !, and though it's dated WC3 is one of my all time favourites
Sins of the fathers🤤
Wing Commander 3 and 4 and Sins of the Fathers were major parts of my childhood. I might have been too young for the content matter.
But them Voodoo murder ain't gonna solve themselves Grace
Even if the graphics are out of time, gameplay, Story and acting is Not reached by modern Games. I am proud WC4 player from 1996. It was my best christmas ever holding the game in my hands
when i got a flight stick it was on!!!
Let the weak say, I am strong. Let strong say, I am weak. This is the order of things in harmony.
Jason Bernard (Captain Eisen) died shortly after this game completed production. I fell in love with his acting on Wing Commander 3. The loss of Jason Bernard was a loss to the entire Wing Commander Community.
Randall Watson Jason Bernard passed away shortly after the filming of the movie, "Liar Liar." He played as the judge. There's a memorandum to him in the post credits in that movie. I agree with you. He played a great character & his acting was stellar, very touching at times. His passing was a huge loss.
They pay tribute to him in Prophecy: one of the missions involves rendezvousing with fighters from the TCS Eisen.
You gotta love stories like this when the status quo ends up being the villain. This was such a great game, and i hope future generations after us will see the brilliance and excellence of the games of the past and great games like this..
OMG collision-crash damage was too insane in this game. And entire 10 or 15 min gameplay down the toilet by a kamikaze opponent flyng straight into your cockpit just to piss you off.
Was thinking "this hasn't aged as well as I thought it would."
Looked down at myself and thought "Pot? Meet kettle."
hahaha😅
"All hail the Mighty Heart of the Tiger!"
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damn. sosa, hawk, panther and vag. I miss them all. Maniac too, a little bit.
Having played 1-5 in my youth, Next to Gabriel Knight and Ultima this was my life!🎉😅
I played this game (Pentium 120 mhz, 2X CD-Rom) long time ago, I really like use fighter to crash enemy's ship, because you can see the serious battle damage on your ship when you fly back ! They should remake wing commander 3,4,5!
+bannouneko wow what a beast of a machine that was. I had a 486 dx2 with a massive 4 meg of ram lol
I agree in fact a new trilogy films would be good.
They are re-making it. Look up Star Citizen and Squadron 42.
It is as close as you will ever get to Wing Commander. A remake of Wing Commander is never going to happen, and even if there was one, it would be a continuation in name only without Chris Roberts.
***** Correct, that was made by Digital Anvil, which CR founded.
As was Freelancer, but that was released after Digital Anvil was bought by Microsoft and was somewhat tainted.
Chris is now running Cloud Imperium Games to make Star Citizen, and this time it won't get tainted by producers, because there are none!
Nostalgia hits hard with this one, what a game, what a time.
Thanks for keeping these videos alive
9:52 nice alarm clock idea
im not a farmer, i have to much of my father in me
I remember all of the Wing Commander games.
A long time ago...
Considering you can make a (sort of) movie out of the game I'm really looking forward to Squadron 42 with modern graphics.
If it ever freaking comes out, was supposed to be out the end of 2016 lol
Ha! Chris Roberts has a cameo during tolwyn's tribunal!
+jc3cp3123 123 I guess he would call the whole situation "bullshit".
“i still say it’ll be friendly fire that gets you!”
the unrealistic thing about the space station is that its too close to jupiter. the planets magnetic pull is so powerful, if that were really jupiter theyd all be dead
Oh and you did not realise the Sounds in Space first? Doctor Pinkybrain? Realism in a SciFi Game - LOL!
PyramidHead138 magnetic pull?? o.O
Sure, because if they had the technology to build the space station close to jupiter, they definitely would not have figured out how to combat the magnetic pull right? Do you even think when you spew nonsense?
Wow Mark, talk about "Obscurity", geez! Never heard of this, I spent the last 5 years in coffee houses playing Jedi Academy/Outcast and every fan mod I could find online for them.
HA! They had Casper Van Dien (John Rico of Starship troopers) as one of the new rookies (Confed Redshirt #3)
He thought hed give piloting a shot lol
I would say that this is the definitive Wing Commander game, and yes, in a way it most certainly is. However, due to the fact that it references a lot of things from the previous game, I can't really call it that as it picks up the narrative from the previous game and is barely a self-contained story.
The plot takes an unexpected turn and the Kilrathi are barely seen in this one, so if you are new to the franchise and want a more accurate representation of Wing Commander as a whole, you are better off playing Heart of the Tiger instead (Wing Commander III). That one gives a more in-depth look at the core Wing Commander-setting and has a more cut-and-dry story about the evil Kilrathi and you as a hero trying to save the human race. However, in terms of story quality, scriptwriting, character development, action, suspense, graphics, music and almost everything else (along with a superior budget), Wing Commander IV improves on the experience immensely and it is, without a doubt, the BEST Wing Commander game of all time, if not the most representative.
Make no mistake, as good as WC3 is, WC4 is even better. WC4 takes the characters that you love from the third game (the core cast anyway) and make you love them even more here. The intricate plot, the drama, the pacing, the branching choices... its all perfected here and will leave you remembering the game for years to come.
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When i was younger I had some issues with the vibe of WC4 over WC3, but in time I understood what the idea was behind it. Like Star Trek Ds9.
Man when Saint Helens comes through that Jump Point. I had the exact opposite emotional response to Hobbes his betrayal. It was one of the most epic moments of my youth.
1:54:13 - Well, hello there Christopher Roberts. A little self-insert into your own universe, I see.
It is very important to respect agreed boundaries and conditions of peace.
holy shit is that biff tannen at 8:34? Lol that's awesome
Yeah, he plays a big part in a few of the Wing Commander games.
Yes, Tom Wilson.
He's in WCIII, IV, and V.
Yup. Good old Maniac. He's been in the series from Wing Commander 1, but he was only done by Tom Wilson when the games started using video like this in Wing Commander 3.
Heh... Rico from Starship Troopers. Forgot he was in this.
+Wolfshifter Everybody starts somewhere. ;)
+Wolfshifter Casper Van Dien is more of an extra. Can't remember him being in any scenes other than the first one and the one where they all land on the borderworlds carrier.
+Gist432 Yeah, but I remember noticing him back in the day and thinking it was funny.
Wolfshifter Yeah ikr :) me too, I was a big fan of Starship Troopers at the time (I didn't play this at release, then again, ST only came out 2 years after this).
Do you have the part where Pliers speaks to Blair about how the Kilrathi helped him get extra boost from the crystals?
They should remaster WC3-5.
At 26:03 you skip past the part where Maniac gets slapped by a woman he is hitting on... that's why he looks around awkward and touches his jaw, smiling/grinning :) Why you skip it though?
lol @ 1:23:54 Colonel Christopher Blair says YOLO
+Michael Deacon YOLO should never be the answer at a tactical briefing... or any other situation for that matter.
So THAT's what YOLO means. This has been very educational.
@@CrazyGaming-ig6qq Youre 0n Level 0ne!
Instead of rehashing Star Wars and killing characters they could remake this the proper way ! Even here it is better then TLJ :) Even factoring in CGI disparity :P
couldnt agree more!!!
I always suspected Colwyn was a bad guy!
Tolywn too, but I never trusted his twin brother Colwyn either.
that made me smile.
Great game!
like mexen troops hiding in the hills on phx az live on tv news not the first time
Hell of a game. They probably should have called it quits with this game though. Prophecy was a bit of a weak send off for the series. Especially considering what they did to Blair :/
SirCraigius I thought they said prophecy was supposed to be a trilogy but the whole origin being bought and all.
it does have some little video cutts here and there!!
hey man who is the best of all the other wing commanders
me!
great game
Groovy credit music
2:18
"Hello, I'm Bob Evil"
classic. always knew tolwyn was a bad'n
+Andy Weller He later uploaded a digitized copy of his personality into a ZAX computer and attempted to colonize the ruins of Washington D.C. He was ultimately defeated by a rather smooth-talking vault dweller.
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39:38
Looks a little different if you LEECH everyone
This is defendant Mission's then the Play Station 1 Version, Is this the Play Station 1 Version?
No. This is from the PC DVD version.
SNARCast Productions Oh ok sorry
***** No need to apologize. If I remember correctly the DVD version was pretty hard to come by as it was only bundled with the Creative Labs DVD Blaster kit. Though I know that the GOG downloadable version does feature the DVD quality video like what is shown here.
I can't believe you forgot the Telamon cutscenes. They depict the horror of the GenSelect device and is integral to the story.
th-cam.com/video/hU9SbEfjb48/w-d-xo.html
wow.. wish I had the time to play games all the time or had no life to where I had to play games for entertainment and lack of friends. its no wonder child obesity exists today and not really before 35 years ago... to many couch commando's..
I like si-fi.. thought I would see what this was... never heard of this.. did not know it was a game video movie... im probably older then most everyone in these comments or on this page. I work, 6 days a week 10 to 12 hour days.. have for 30 years. no such thing as video games when I was a kid or into my 20s.
Lance W must suck to have to still do that after 30 years, I was able to retire at 33and have plenty of time for games!
ya right. 100x more likely your an obese loser on welfare or living in your moms basement
Fell asleep 5x
How many Star Wars ripoffs can you spot?
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This movie is comically B grade but Star Citizen/Squadron 42 is shaping up to be the AAA game of AAA games.
+Phillip Mulligan There is nothing comical about this movie as it's not a movie but FMV sequences from a triple-A game of the time.
+theeltea This game is from 1996 after all. ;) (actually bought it when it came out, loved it)
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This is not a game.
Actually it was. Pretty fun one too.