The amount of money the NBA makes now is significantly more though. Unless you want the owners pocketing the whole difference then the players are going to get paid.
@@Kshinelawyer yeah but it's better than what it used to be. My cousins first contract in 2011, he got paid $473,604. Undrafted rookie minimum salary. If he were coming in now, he'd make 1.2 million, with a bump to 2 million after his first season (2024-25 vet minimum with 1 year exp.) It's getting better for the little guys too. By 2030 no rookie will make *anything less than 2 million a year* and minimum salary players with 10+ years experience will make 4 million minimum starting 2 seasons from now. The nba money is getting crazy as a whole lol
Yall can say whatever about Rashad but he made it, he lived out a lot of ppls dreams and is doing good for himself now. Ppl just make fun of his career like it was a joke or something but nah he made it. 👏
Man fcuk Rashad that niga the Thanos of haters and ain't do $h!t in the league. Got a lot of mouth a boy who didn't last longer than Pat Bev #Belt2Ass lmao
Facts. He has forgot more than most ppl will ever see when it comes to ball. His takes are horrible lol but he def has my respect when it comes to the game.
People do that because they’re comparing him to his peers not to everybody in the damn comment section that’s common sense! That’s that cop out mental gymnastics shit! People come at him because of what he could’ve and should’ve been making had He not got in his own way!! We see everyday his dumb ass mentality when they speak on certain subjects and it makes it very apparent why tf he didn’t last long! So yeah cool “he made it” but fuck outta here with that because that’s not what he wanted he wanted to be able to have this conversation with Gil and Kenyon from a personal experience standpoint not a “well I was at least in the nba and around people that dealt with this” perspective! That shit weak!
He did a lot for those denver teams and if they had a better third option before getting Iverson they could have been in the finals a few times. K mart always played hard
Kuzma fits the 1st option on a bad team (Wizards), but could've been 3rd option on a contender (Mavs). Would've still been making the same amount of $$.
If they Mavs got Kuzma they probably not getting PJ and Gafford. Would they still be in the same position that they are now just with Kuzma? IMO I don't think so. Both PJ and Gafford playing out of their minds rn. It's funny how Kuzma turned down the trade because he wanted to play for a contender lol. Blessing in disguise
@@nic-tv4090the championship is cool and not that it’s not important but the true goal is to be able to live a similar lifestyle when you retire as when you played. Gil has said it plenty of times in the past it’s way harder to make a million after you retire!
As someone who was a Nets fan for over 20 years, hearing Kenyon Martin tell the story of how he left the nets makes me know I was right to dump them as my favorite team two years ago.
Boozer did do the Cavs fucking dirty LMAO. Notice you've never seen someone who could potentially be a UFA get their contract voided to get paid more early *ever again in NBA history* that one move fucked it up for everybody 🤣 now its "play out your contract" lol
Also notice how nobody takes Boozer side 😂 everyone calls it a dirty move even if they get it its still dirty becasue it missed up everybody else after that.
See these the stories I really enjoy hearing about. The inner inner workings of the business side of the game. Everything else really be obvious. I wish I could get on Gil’s arena and talk about how when playing overseas you can go months without a damn game check. I first signed in the Dutch League and got a 25k stipend/bonus on a 2 yr 201k. And didn’t see another game check until mid season. The next year I didn’t see a game check the first 3 games , then got paid for 1 game. Then didn’t see another game check until it was 5 games left. It’s rough out there.
you know he regrets his career and choices. Its like Jay williams, he was played great a Duke, got to the bulls looked like their future, got on a damn motorcycle and ruined his entire career. He knows he missed a massive opportunity to not only live out his hoop dreams, but also make the crazy bread they talking about here. It was 2002 I believe
How about y’all look at the actual numbers!? Most contenders have the 3rd option make as much as the #1 on a bottom team. Denver, Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, Minnesota plus others have the 3rd option make 30+ mil while bottom teams Washington, Detroit, Portland, San Antonio have their #1 make 35
The Owners dont ever get accussed of being dirty when they take advantage of great players who have bad deals. Pippen was ALWAYS underpaid. So was Jordan.
If anyone is wondering, McCants made $7,581,406 in his 4 NBA seasons with Minnesota and Sacramento playing 249 regular season games averaging 10ppg and 2rpg
The way i see it you could be last years Bradley Beal making $43M or this years MPJ making $30M. I'd personally rather be this years MPJ especially if I can get it in Florida or Texas vs New York, DC, California
BRO. Im sitting here listening then the camera pans to mccants quiet as a motherfuckaa!! I started crying, then I go to the comments and started LOSING IT LMAOOOOOOOO
I remember that Carlos Boozer story in regards to how he did the Cavs old owner, he lost a lot of respect from me for that because I have a mother who is blind & had he done something like to her, he would've had problems
It’s business. He was more valuable but NBA rules allowed a billionaire to get him for cheap. Boozer was thinking about him & his family #respect you never know what the future holds; get your money NOW!
Damn Martin’s story makes me really sad. I was getting like $10 Net tickets from Modell’s back in the day when 7,000 fans were showing up. However, after the Marbury trade and drafting Martin this team was setting up perfectly for a 5-7 year run. VC was awesome with the Nets but hearing they didn’t offer Kmart a contract makes me glad the Nets are out of New Jersey. That team was awesome and it all changed without Kmart:
Gil is mistaken. 3rd options on championship teams make 30+ million. Denver. MPJ. Clippers. 76ers Tobias. Khris Middleton, Suns, Celtics, Golden State.
Gil and Kenyon are wrong. He’s trying to give McCants a 3rd option contract on a bad team. On a good team 3rd options like Middleton (30+M), Jrue (30+M), Herro (30+M), Tobias (30+M), MPJ (30+M), Gobert (30+M), Wiggins (25+M), + all of the guys getting paid this offseason make good money.
@@larrinj.2905We’re not his peers😂 awful rebuttal. It’s his own fault he only played 4 years. He’s still blaming everyone but the person who deserves blame
@@magicmillz so what if he only played 4 yrs and didn’t make what Gil and Kenyon made. It’s still a success story. The NBA is the hardest league to make it to. If he only made 1 millions dollars that’s a success to regular people.
Do u watch the show...its Mcants fault why..he blames everybody but himself...he always thought he was the man an he is in fact not!!..did it to himself
@@KARLKAM😂😂😂😂 idk if you was saying that as a Good thing or bad thing??... Because His entire career only lasted 4 in Contrast to Gil and Kenyon Career who was still getting much more. Kenyon been on teams that made playoffs and finals and Gil made the playoffs with the wizards after leaving Golden State. Mccants if you feel asleep or blinked too fast you missed his whole damn career. He wasnt even going to practice being that he was scared to compete but bragged he was better but never showed any effort. Go ask Pat Beverly.
@@KARLKAM Exactly and Pat Beverly coming back tomorrow to give him more smoke and fact check Mccants career and shattered his hoop dreams. Got in shape like a NFL player but works at a Gym or T Mobile... Nigga don't even have his own player in NBA2k24.
@@bigamg515 i noticed all those North Carolina and fighting alini players never did much in the NBA. And what the fuck happed to Deron williams. Some players just get the bag, and say fuck basketball.
@@toolondaboards yea but at best that team is a fringe playoff team in Utah you got Jerry Sloan a decent organization some stability and to say “oh he would’ve been in a certain system” Deron William literally didn’t play within the system and was straight 🔥 for that team he just wanted to be on a franchise where he didn’t have to win a championship and could make a boat load of money
keyword "I would be successful" he did stablished himself as Agent 0 in there. And that Washington Team is a playoff valiber team and he did get the all star nods there and getting the most of the money he can.
@@RichardGelilioJr he literally would’ve got that in Utah and with a better structure and that team was a 1st round or second round team maybe but after that they’re nothing and he could’ve been agent 0 in Utah man come on lol dude just didn’t want to win he wanted the bag and no expectations so he picked the right team
Rashad listening to these contract talks like that SpongeBob Meme looking out the window lmao
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Gil’s first contract after the warriors was legendary and a trail blazer🔥🔥
Correct!
“3rd team all nba baby” i love this show man 😂😂😂😂
Kenyon is a low key comedian. 🤣
😂😂 secure the bag 101
Damn Mccants feel left out on this convo,,,,,,like damn the only max he ever had are air max shoes
😭😭
Yo chill…😂
maxed out on bench
Yeah bkz he doesn't listen. He is like most men ex wives. Confrontational and always thinkn to opposed. 😂😂
😅. Yeah there's definitely levels to this shit 😂
Getting mccants to be quiet is crazy
Mccants first contract was 2500 and free food 😂
💵🍔🍟🥤Lmao 😂 you wrong for this 🤣
prob took the jersey and shorts out of his paycheck
This comment is some nasty work
McCants saw this and clicked on your profile picture and just laughed 😭😭😭
😅😅😅
“To this day” nah yo Kenyon don’t play bout nothing😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
U see the hat he wearing? Triple D! We don’t play bout nun 🫡🤣
I wish they let Kenyon talk about the stress of negotiating. Talking numbers beyond what you thought was possible and it can change on a whim
He didn’t see that coming 😂😂😂
Man, the contracts these cats get now are ridiculous. 5 yrs $300 million. Sheeeeeeiiiiittttttt!
The amount of money the NBA makes now is significantly more though. Unless you want the owners pocketing the whole difference then the players are going to get paid.
4years 350
@@Heshinsifacts, it’s crazy how much revenue nba generates
Yeah the top guys. You got guys making peanuts as well
@@Kshinelawyer yeah but it's better than what it used to be. My cousins first contract in 2011, he got paid $473,604. Undrafted rookie minimum salary. If he were coming in now, he'd make 1.2 million, with a bump to 2 million after his first season (2024-25 vet minimum with 1 year exp.)
It's getting better for the little guys too. By 2030 no rookie will make *anything less than 2 million a year* and minimum salary players with 10+ years experience will make 4 million minimum starting 2 seasons from now.
The nba money is getting crazy as a whole lol
Yall can say whatever about Rashad but he made it, he lived out a lot of ppls dreams and is doing good for himself now. Ppl just make fun of his career like it was a joke or something but nah he made it. 👏
Man fcuk Rashad that niga the Thanos of haters and ain't do $h!t in the league. Got a lot of mouth a boy who didn't last longer than Pat Bev #Belt2Ass lmao
Facts. He has forgot more than most ppl will ever see when it comes to ball. His takes are horrible lol but he def has my respect when it comes to the game.
People do that because they’re comparing him to his peers not to everybody in the damn comment section that’s common sense! That’s that cop out mental gymnastics shit! People come at him because of what he could’ve and should’ve been making had He not got in his own way!! We see everyday his dumb ass mentality when they speak on certain subjects and it makes it very apparent why tf he didn’t last long! So yeah cool “he made it” but fuck outta here with that because that’s not what he wanted he wanted to be able to have this conversation with Gil and Kenyon from a personal experience standpoint not a “well I was at least in the nba and around people that dealt with this” perspective! That shit weak!
You can tell hes full of regrets though. Probably wishes he changed his attitude in the locker rooms.
Kenyon Martin is one of my favorite Nuggets of all time. He was the heart and soul of those Teams
He did a lot for those denver teams and if they had a better third option before getting Iverson they could have been in the finals a few times. K mart always played hard
Kenyon martin was one of the most valuable defenders in the game when he was live
Rashad be holding onto that trophy like a proud dad 😂
Gil couldn’t wait to have money for the work 😂😂😂
Kuzma fits the 1st option on a bad team (Wizards), but could've been 3rd option on a contender (Mavs). Would've still been making the same amount of $$.
If they Mavs got Kuzma they probably not getting PJ and Gafford. Would they still be in the same position that they are now just with Kuzma? IMO I don't think so. Both PJ and Gafford playing out of their minds rn. It's funny how Kuzma turned down the trade because he wanted to play for a contender lol. Blessing in disguise
@@lt2003 ...Mavs would've gotten both Gafford and Kuzma. It worked out tho, Gafford and PJ have been a nice fit.
Perfect example
Welp o welp he'll be ight n kinda glad Kuzma didn't wanna come to Mavs bet he feel dumb now haha
Rather have Gafford n Pj
K-Mart stay with the Fresh Triple D hats 🔥🔥
Man, Nets did Keyon dirty. Whoever had majority ownership probably had a beef with Keyon
Who’s Keyon ?!?! 🧐🤔
It's Kenyon.
Bruce Ratner I believe,
But NBA dodged a bullet seeing that his competition was convicted in 2005
The new management are the people who traded Kyle Kover for cash compensation, just to pay for a FAX 📠 MACHINE LOL SMH
Ownership was intimidated by him 😅
I’m a bit late viewing this video but GILBERT is the reason why I’ll be a Washington Wizards fan forever 😂😂😂😂
He was cooking 10 years before Steph
You're onto something good, keep it rolling
Great podcast today I truly enjoy listening to you guys chop it up. True NBA legends.I love it!!
Hornets gettin treated like Denzel in his final scene in "Training Day" 😂😂
Man who the hell
Turning down 75 mill on a bad team to be a third option on a good team for 17 mil, not me
Thats only if you dont care about winning a chip...
@@nic-tv4090chips don’t take care of your family first years to come.
@@nic-tv4090the championship is cool and not that it’s not important but the true goal is to be able to live a similar lifestyle when you retire as when you played. Gil has said it plenty of times in the past it’s way harder to make a million after you retire!
Gil was bugging though. Third options are making way more than 17 a year.
Nah gimme the bag first so if anything happens im good regardless. That ring is a want but that money is a beed
I agree with Mccants in this one. 3rd Option and winning Rings. I’ll take it!!! I know how to manage my money anyway!!
Being from Jersey I hated that they didn’t resign Kenyon… hasn’t been the same since. Then they left Newark and went to Brooklyn… 🤦🏾♂️
They need to go back 🤷🏿♂️
Mccants the only one up there don’t got a real story 😂 nobody wanted him for nun but vet min😂
That's low-key 🧢......
Mccants had a better college career than Gil, (not saying he's better) but the expectations were crazy coming outta UNC.
As someone who was a Nets fan for over 20 years, hearing Kenyon Martin tell the story of how he left the nets makes me know I was right to dump them as my favorite team two years ago.
Boozer did do the Cavs fucking dirty LMAO. Notice you've never seen someone who could potentially be a UFA get their contract voided to get paid more early *ever again in NBA history* that one move fucked it up for everybody 🤣 now its "play out your contract" lol
Also notice how nobody takes Boozer side 😂 everyone calls it a dirty move even if they get it its still dirty becasue it missed up everybody else after that.
@@allmightylowercasejay1138 facts lmao.
I love when Kenyon is active in the convo.. great segment
That tuff crowd shirt is hard
Facts I seen it live and said the same thing. It’s probably $357 dollars lol
Ass
Wack
Guess dats a Cali thing. Shit basic regular for us Texas boys
Ppl saying how big the contracts got compared to 20 years ago.
Somebody needs to refresh their memory of house + living expenses back then.
See these the stories I really enjoy hearing about. The inner inner workings of the business side of the game. Everything else really be obvious.
I wish I could get on Gil’s arena and talk about how when playing overseas you can go months without a damn game check.
I first signed in the Dutch League and got a 25k stipend/bonus on a 2 yr 201k. And didn’t see another game check until mid season.
The next year I didn’t see a game check the first 3 games , then got paid for 1 game. Then didn’t see another game check until it was 5 games left.
It’s rough out there.
Makes one appreciate capitalism
How much did you make in your career?
Mccant was just part of the crowd because he was not part of the conversation 😂😂😂
you know he regrets his career and choices. Its like Jay williams, he was played great a Duke, got to the bulls looked like their future, got on a damn motorcycle and ruined his entire career. He knows he missed a massive opportunity to not only live out his hoop dreams, but also make the crazy bread they talking about here. It was 2002 I believe
Yall play, but Gil is a genius. He remembers details details details.
How about y’all look at the actual numbers!? Most contenders have the 3rd option make as much as the #1 on a bottom team. Denver, Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, Minnesota plus others have the 3rd option make 30+ mil while bottom teams Washington, Detroit, Portland, San Antonio have their #1 make 35
More topics like this ....tired of comparing players....all u guys are dope ...
“pass it boy” damn 🤣
Great episode guys more like this 💯🙏🏾
It was a blessing that agent zero came to DC
KENYON WITH THE DALLAS TRIPLE D HAT ON 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🖤
6 for 66 damn Jalen got that 60 in 1 year in his new contract.
The economy was different fam 😂 in the 30s my granny could get 5 cookies for a nickel
@@encouragingasset9060crib for 5000
@@encouragingasset9060right Cadillacs were $1500 😂😂
The Owners dont ever get accussed of being dirty when they take advantage of great players who have bad deals. Pippen was ALWAYS underpaid. So was Jordan.
Facts
Soon as i saw that title i immediately had to check if McCants was in the room coz its about to get really wierd in that room
i never knew the nets didnt offer KMart a contract. I always thought Denver just offered more
My boy roccin the Triple D hat...
Sloan was still coaching in Utah. They went to the west finals with Deron
Yhall laughing at Mccants but remember he ain’t got to clock in to work. 😂
McCant is growing on me. He's very entertaining
If anyone is wondering, McCants made $7,581,406 in his 4 NBA seasons with Minnesota and Sacramento playing 249 regular season games averaging 10ppg and 2rpg
Mpj got a max on a championship team and he’s a third option on a good day
3rd option on winning teams getting paid. Jrue holiday, draymond, tobias
I think that was the beginning of what the nets are to this day not offering kmart a contract, thats crazy
Kenyon reppin the crb ddd shit hat tough!!
Yall made this simple question so difficult.
The way i see it you could be last years Bradley Beal making $43M or this years MPJ making $30M. I'd personally rather be this years MPJ especially if I can get it in Florida or Texas vs New York, DC, California
BRO. Im sitting here listening then the camera pans to mccants quiet as a motherfuckaa!! I started crying, then I go to the comments and started LOSING IT LMAOOOOOOOO
11:26 naw I feel him tho
The 3rd option on the sixers was Tobias Harris over me!!??.😂 he was making like 95
I remember that Carlos Boozer story in regards to how he did the Cavs old owner, he lost a lot of respect from me for that because I have a mother who is blind & had he done something like to her, he would've had problems
It's business, not personal
It’s business. He was more valuable but NBA rules allowed a billionaire to get him for cheap. Boozer was thinking about him & his family #respect you never know what the future holds; get your money NOW!
Ain't nobody messing with the Jazz
Im wondering why Gil so fresh, he wearing Brandon stuff 😂😂 those fits be hard
He didn't see that coming 😂
Utah would’ve let Gil get off. The ended up giving Deron Williams the keys
Josiah is a good guy. The way he changed the topic because he knows McCants doesn’t have a contract story
Real friend shit
Informative episode. Learned something. And its dope that y'all are rocking Brandons gear even in dudes absence on the show today. Gear is solid!
All these guys are intelligent
Sports contracts are insane now, 500 mil Patrick Mahomes contract, 700 mil Shohei Ohtani contract. Becoming a billionaire from sports alone is insane
Those owners probably can buy states and cities with the money they make 😂
Damn Martin’s story makes me really sad. I was getting like $10 Net tickets from Modell’s back in the day when 7,000 fans were showing up. However, after the Marbury trade and drafting Martin this team was setting up perfectly for a 5-7 year run. VC was awesome with the Nets but hearing they didn’t offer Kmart a contract makes me glad the Nets are out of New Jersey. That team was awesome and it all changed without Kmart:
Yea I’d take that 17 a year too Texas has no state Tax so you gone see 11 or 12 of that
3rd team All-NBA baby 🕺 🤣🤣
Gil is mistaken. 3rd options on championship teams make 30+ million. Denver. MPJ. Clippers. 76ers Tobias. Khris Middleton, Suns, Celtics, Golden State.
Kenyon repping Dallas 👌🏾
Beal maxed out as the 3rd option
6 for 66 is crazy!! Just offer me 6 for 67!
Gil and Kenyon are wrong. He’s trying to give McCants a 3rd option contract on a bad team. On a good team 3rd options like Middleton (30+M), Jrue (30+M), Herro (30+M), Tobias (30+M), MPJ (30+M), Gobert (30+M), Wiggins (25+M), + all of the guys getting paid this offseason make good money.
Tyler Herro is getting 30 a years as the 3rd option Duncan Robinson ain’t even an option at times and is making 18 ijs
More stuff like this 👌🏾
Rashad was quiet this whole debate almost lol can’t relate
Neither can we lol. Atleast he made it though.
@@larrinj.2905exactly
@@larrinj.2905We’re not his peers😂 awful rebuttal. It’s his own fault he only played 4 years. He’s still blaming everyone but the person who deserves blame
@@magicmillz so what if he only played 4 yrs and didn’t make what Gil and Kenyon made. It’s still a success story. The NBA is the hardest league to make it to. If he only made 1 millions dollars that’s a success to regular people.
Do u watch the show...its Mcants fault why..he blames everybody but himself...he always thought he was the man an he is in fact not!!..did it to himself
Gil saw AK47 in Utah and said "nah guns are my thing, I'm out".
Tobias was a 3rd option and he got the max. 🤷🏾♂️
Were the Nets not able to get Vince if K-Mart stuck around?
McCant still has more money than us commenting...he made it to the pros
Josiah tired of Gill😂😂😂
Jrue Holiday signed his deal this year and he’s the third option
Jaylen Brown's supermax hasn't kicked in yet. Jrue, KP, and Tatum make more than him lol
Gil should’ve definitely considered Utah more.
Rashad for like almost 8 million when he was playing for timberwolves. Definitely shouldve talked that talk
Mccants was awfully quiet on this topic at hand🤣🤣 never had a max contract or negotiations.
Dude made 6 months of Kenyons money his entire career.
@@KARLKAM😂😂😂😂 idk if you was saying that as a Good thing or bad thing??... Because His entire career only lasted 4 in Contrast to Gil and Kenyon Career who was still getting much more. Kenyon been on teams that made playoffs and finals and Gil made the playoffs with the wizards after leaving Golden State. Mccants if you feel asleep or blinked too fast you missed his whole damn career. He wasnt even going to practice being that he was scared to compete but bragged he was better but never showed any effort. Go ask Pat Beverly.
@@bigamg515 Kenyon played 15 years so it’s bad lol
@@KARLKAM Exactly and Pat Beverly coming back tomorrow to give him more smoke and fact check Mccants career and shattered his hoop dreams. Got in shape like a NFL player but works at a Gym or T Mobile... Nigga don't even have his own player in NBA2k24.
@@bigamg515 i noticed all those North Carolina and fighting alini players never did much in the NBA. And what the fuck happed to Deron williams. Some players just get the bag, and say fuck basketball.
He did want to play Kobe 4 times a year if he signed with the Clippers.💯💯💯
They hating on the scenario 😂
“Put myself in a position where I could be successful” but went to the wizards a dumpster fire of a team lol
Well if he goes to Utah like what he said and Stockton Retiring.....That will be one hell of a Player to replace
And helped turn them into a playoff team.
@@toolondaboards yea but at best that team is a fringe playoff team in Utah you got Jerry Sloan a decent organization some stability and to say “oh he would’ve been in a certain system” Deron William literally didn’t play within the system and was straight 🔥 for that team he just wanted to be on a franchise where he didn’t have to win a championship and could make a boat load of money
keyword "I would be successful" he did stablished himself as Agent 0 in there.
And that Washington Team is a playoff valiber team and he did get the all star nods there and getting the most of the money he can.
@@RichardGelilioJr he literally would’ve got that in Utah and with a better structure and that team was a 1st round or second round team maybe but after that they’re nothing and he could’ve been agent 0 in Utah man come on lol dude just didn’t want to win he wanted the bag and no expectations so he picked the right team
3rd options really making 25-30 now
Basically would you rather be Kyle Kuzma on the Wizards or Kyle Kuzma if he got traded to the Mavs
McCants biggest offer was stock on the Minnesota Timberwolfs😂😂😂
Also they could have just looked up bostons numbers, with brown on a max, porzingus just got resigned and jrue as well
When’s Brandon gone restock on them tuff crowds tees . Been trynna cop me one
Pass it boyyyyyyy😂😂😂😂😂
If i found myself agreeing with McCants I would change my mind
Wow Gil you missed the boat sloan was a elite coach! That was your championship window.
Utah ended up with a better PG in Deron Williams
The fools be talking in circles sometimes 😵💫
Perkies
so why yall watching???
Keyon a better man than me for doing a sign and trade. I would’ve left them with nothing