aluminum lug nut vs stud vs impact wrench
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Who will win? the stud or the aluminum lug nut?
Watch this same test done with a steel lugnut
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This is an aluminum lug nut made from 7075 aluminum.
Not everyone who has aluminum lugnuts, has a torque wrench or makes sure their nuts are torqued to spec. Anyone can buy aluminum lugnuts for their street car and drive to the local muffler place to have them installed. Try to avoid using an impact on aluminum nuts as they are obviously easy to damage.
Aluminum tuner lug nuts aren't that great for the race track either because the threads can get easily damaged when removing the nut when hot. Porsche Club of America requires steel lugnuts for the track.....even though many factory porsche came with aluminum nuts!
The first impact wrench rated to 220ft-lbs stopped turning , then I switched to a 700ft-lbs impact wrench
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I was impressed they lasted that long i get scared when I get to 75 ft/lbs
Same, I installed some aluminium lug nuts on my car and the car mechanic looked at me like it's something dangerous to use… But apparently they can take a serious beating before becoming shit.
not really. They work only when new. After prolonged contact the aluminum will corrode in contact with the steel stud and you will need to impact the shit out of them for removal.
Also, in this video since there was no wheel the nut threaded all the way in, in real world scenario only a partial length will thread making the nut less resistant to stripping. With aluminum, the best practice is 1.5 to 2 * thread nominal diameter of engagement vs 1* for steel. If you don't have that quantity of thread engagement they will eventually fail in service.
The hell. At the very least you proved it can handle 80ft/lb of torque.
Thanks for the vid I went into a tire place and they did this to my car and Then the next day later the wheel fell off while I was driving and know my wheel and car are damaged and the shop is blaming spacer that they added on the car even tho they used and impact tool on my aluminum lug nuts.
+Christopher Jimenez Sorry to hear that. when they put the spacer whomever needs to make sure there is enough thread on the stud for the nut to engage properly. because if it is a short stud the nut may only grab a couple of threads. But they shouldn't be using an impact to tighten on an aluminum nut as well.
Where'd you get a copy of Jiffy Lube's training video?
Seen that one coming lol. If the weaker impact can't suck them on then it's probably not gonna work. I've been trying to do the same thing but I don't want to destroy the lugs or the studs
Your neanderthal method of tightening a lug nut is impressive. How about describing the recommended torque spec of the lug nut (~90 ft. lbs.), then compare with your applied force of 220 ft. lbs., then 700 ft.lbs. Brilliant.
Not everyone who has aluminum lugnuts, has a torque wrench or makes sure their nuts are torqued to spec. Anyone can buy aluminum lugnuts for their street car and drive to the local muffler place to have them installed. But this video isn't how to "torque your lug nuts" it is a "who will win" and I do like you called my method "neanderthal" though I would have went with barbaric or barbarian or my favorite is uncivilized.
IMHO, it would have been most helpful to your viewers to include the above reasons for demonstrating your destructive test. FYI, while offering al. lug nuts in the aftermarket is pretty recent, Porsche used al. lug nuts for about 25 years before switching to bolts.
Thank you but that was not the reason behind this video as the same video was made with the steel lug nut. I did not think so many would view it but like you said it would be a good opportunity to include a statement about not using impact wrenches on aluminum nuts. Porsche used aluminum nuts and they may be fine for the street but even PCA recommends users to switch to steel on the track and so do I after using aluminum nuts as they will cause problems when removing them when your studs are hot...but I have never had a problem with steel lug nuts. Someone pointed out here about the new Gorilla Forged Steel Racing Lug which looks identical to this aluminum nut...if you just want the look but short steel open nuts are still the best value and weight.
Thank you for the recommendations
Agreed, but operating conditions on the track are quite different from driving on the street, thus the requirements for the material change. Perhaps the warning should be offered about aftermarket products whose design, engineering, quality and material choices must be compatible with a wide range of vehicles.
Standard fastener engineering says 1.5Xdia of threads for proper engagement......I don't see this in this video! Also if you run long wheel studs.....best practice......and follow recommendations for torque.
Didn't seem to be a problem th-cam.com/video/JJvTTLlB3z4/w-d-xo.html
427zoh6 depends on material, steel 1x diameter, aluminum 2x. But that’s not the problem here, any thread will eventually fail if you put infinite torque on them
What’s the 1.5 mean?
@@mallkrawlerz620 Nut Thread engagement length = 1.5(For steel) x Thread Diameter
How bout don’t impact the fuck out of them? Only thing wrong with those nuts is the guy operating them
Yeah so? he was trying to break it to give an idea of how tough they are. And now 24000 people know at the cost of one lug nut. Dummy
Who stands on a impact wrench for 2 minutes?
jiffy lube employees
Wait, so you're saying aluminum is softer than steel? No way. :rolleyes:
Hi singlecam, thanks for posting this video up. I just received my D1 Spec Aluminium lug nuts M12 1.5 and seeing this video and reading comments on the internet, my life is in danger if i install them. Can you please tell me yoir honest opinion on them ? My car is a Ford Probe 5x114.3 Thank you buddy
hi im sorry for the late reply, no you are not in danger if you use them properly and torque them to spec , keep them away from impact guns in my opinion. But they don't last very long if you remove wheels on and off over and over...I saw you can buy race style lug nuts in steel now and in future I would go with those, thanks for posting
singlecams Thank man, your answer help me , thanks
thanks for watching glad it helped
100% true! Steel nuts are way better than aluminum.my civic had same problem with alloy nuts.👍
ive seen race cars use aluminun lug nuts all the time without issues…… though theyre not your typical cheap ebay crap but a 7075 t6 aluminum…….. to say ALL aluminum are not good compared to steel are just false
I can do that by hand with oem lugs.
And the moral of the story is
Porsche, and most other European automobile manufacturers, use lug BOLTS.
Although, I do admit, a few Porsches do use lug nuts.
Also many people convert to studs and even remove their center lock wheels rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/650583-centerlocks-i-m-out-hello-5-lug-conversion.html
Bolts are interior to studs. Here is why:
1. Studs make wheel changes way easier as the wheel essentially lines itself up. No need to find the hole as one might say, there is another time and place for that.
2. Stripping a stud can be replaced while stripping a bolt calls for a complete hub replace. Sounds pretty stupid right?
3. There are no advantages of running lug bolts over lug nuts.
Proof of stupidity.
U need double length thread contact for Aluminum material 🙄
Duh!! Your not supposed to use an impact wrench on Aluminum Lugs.. You use a Torque Wrench 🙄
Aluminum lug nuts are dangerous
@ 1:38 "I think it's tight" lol
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self explanatory
this happened to my civic
+TheBikemaster94 what happened did the stud break thanks for watching
took it to the tire shop and they said they couldn't get the lugnuts to come off,they just kept spinning in place. Eventually they came off but the threads on the hub were all stripped. I now use standard steel lugnuts because the other specialty steels and aluminum lugs are brittle.
Wow
+KIevMan this nut is not very strong like the steel one th-cam.com/video/JJvTTLlB3z4/w-d-xo.html
Electric impact tools.... No enough torc power
hahahahahahaha imagine you cross threaded a steel lug nuts………. itll never come off……… stid wasnt to badly damaged since its aluminum lug nuts……. just clean the stud thread and put another one one…….. if that happens to a steel lug nuts……. good luck removing it as easily……. you gonna have to get a new stud…..🤣
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WTF was that all about ? This video proves nothing.
The first impact tool couldn't break it, So . . . You used a monster heavy duty air tool with 650 ft-lb of force to destroy a lug nut.
I can do the same thing with my hand and break the steel studs clean off with the studs.
You can brake them off what does that mean ...wtf 😄
@@singlecams break. Oh I see the spelling mistake. English is my 4th language. At times I also struggle with bear🐻 and bare.
steels lug nut best more safty
AnNam Viet Nam that is actually false forged Billet lug nuts are stronger and safer steel is just cost effective
Amateur :-D
Aluminum lug nuts suck. There is no reason in the world to use them
V.Vega lighter= less rotating mass.
All of the pro drags use them and many world of outlaw sprintcars use them as well.
Ok, one reason in the world to use them lol. I'd bet they're one time use though. They start stripping the first time you take them off. Completely impractical.
no actually I've had the same set on my dwarfcar for 2 seasons now.. which is about 40-50 races. i agree that they don't do much but rotation mass is a big deal in racing.
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