Grampa loves biking so he traveled America bikepacking from 1 side to the other. He grows peppers in his back yard. Drinks tea and has done alot of research on it. Collects zombie pantsu for fun. Debut stream talked about the plastic ball of copium. Dumpster dives for pc's and is very knowledgeable about pc building. Knows boomer memes this man is so based on so many levels its scary
He’s introverted and nerdy enough to be relatable, but also has healthy passions and hobbies that even lets him exercise. He’s so based and honestly a good role model
A monotonous work that only requires some base attention from your mind but not too much focus tends to be a good trigger for your brain to explore various topics. Frankly speaking your brain is a bit bored so it forces you to do something useful with it. 😁
Vesper is like our grandpa, so many wise advices that we could take from him. Yep you don't need to change what you like based on other people xD Are we worthy of Vesper's respect? We tried to stop him from collecting zombie's pantsu but didn't work 🤣
I think Vesper strength is storytelling and motivational speaker. I enjoy listening to his advices. It might be wrong to others but what matters is he tried to help you and he listened to you.
This genuinely makes me feel better. I've kinda vaguely felt this way for years and it's SO nice to see someone with a platform say this too. Makes me feel way more confident in what I like.
He'll eventually get to the age where one realizes that no one was looking at us at all. Though to be fair, in these trying times, that saying doesn't hold much truth to it unfortunately. To expand on what I'm saying, because I know some will take it negatively. The saying goes: When you're young,think teenage years, you worry about what others think of you. When you're in your mid years, think early 20s to 30s, you tend not to care what others think of you. It's only when you're at the peak of the hill or about to start your descent, that you realize all this time no one really cared about you at all. By that I mean of course society at large. Your close relations such as family and friends took varying degrees of interest in regards to you and the way you lived your life. Though again, these days society seems to care too much about what you do or don't support/believe in. Not sure if this was a pessimistic view that was shared with me at a much younger age by my uncle one day, but I feel it does hold some truth to it. Sorry the ramblings, the climb has been a bitch, but at least it's all downhill from here.
@@GoldyGoldmembers There is a thing called positive nihilism that kinda embraces the topic you wrote about but dials it up to eleven. It wants you to acknowledge that in the grand scheme nothing you do is relevant. But instead of mourning the inevitable irrelevance of your accomplishments it wants you to realize that even your failures do not matter that much. So you should try out and do what you want. Who cares if you make a fool out of yourself? It's just as irrelevant as any achievement. So live carefree and the best way you can. 😊
@@7shinta7 i'm kinda like that, but instead i believe everything we do will matter in the future, as if we had to do it for time to continue on, something like "destiny", i would say me writting this is also one of those things, who knows what could happen to the world because of my actions? that's why i chose to believe that every action everyone does will matter in the future it doesn't matter if it was an achievement or a failure, it was destiny. And, because it was destiny, i don't bother too much when i do a mistake or two, it was gonna happen anyways, so why bother? we have to live the best of our lives anyways, remembering every mistake like it was the worst is not the best for our lives at least that's my point of view
It's always a tough call. We all know people who we wish would disregard the opinions of others and believe in themselves more, but we also all know people who we wish would take the opinions of others to heart and become less self-centered.
I am recovering from burnout due to a lot of reasons, but people pleasing is one of the big bads when it comes to my mental health. It was nice to hear this today, I think I needed it 😊✨
It's better: He confronts them with the absolute irrelevance of their opinions for his life choices. If someone is irrelevant to you (because you don't know or respect them) so is their opinion. 😎✌🏻
BASED BOOMER I love Sonic. And his Game's are good. I've learned this knowledge through years of people, for no reason really, trying to convince me and others that our experiences and our memories and our preferences are wrong. Eat it, school bullies who I don't remember the faces or names of, I'm still a Sonic fan after all these years. Vesper is right, what they say doesn't matter because they don't matter. This is why I also like Vesper, he is wise.
another thing to keep in mind, debating and trash talking are often just people making their own fun. not always warranted, but even they aren't taking it seriously
ive had a circle of 'friends' i wa playing videogames with from junior highschool until before college started i started to ignore them at that point because they kept talking shit about what games i play because they cant play with me when they have low end pc's and just force me to play league of legends
My entire life revolves around: "I love this. If you think this is fine then we're good. And if you think this is shit, then I'm gonna love it even harder to piss you off"
@@SaganTheKhajiit people flanderize themselves in the name of pissing off people they don't like. you do you but it's still a way of letting someone you don't like define your behavior.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx So... not changing my behavior because of how other people think is letting other people change my behavior? Alright then, if you say so.
This is basically how I think. If someone says the thing I like is bad because it sucks, why would I care what an idiot thinks? Or maybe a person has bad taste. Or maybe they have some good points but it doesn't take away from the thing I like . There are things which I keep to myself and a few people, because I just don't want to deal with the reactions and comments and arguments that don't change anyones' mind-despite me having completely valid points for why they're wrong-but I still just enjoy it on my own.
I understand what Vesper's saying, and by and large I agree, but I see too many people these days who just absolutely, positively cannot accept criticism. Some of them are an Elon Musk or a Kanye West who have obscene amounts of money, but others are just regular people like your friends, family or co-workers. They have been taught that anyone who questions them or their interests is a "hater", inept, ignorant, and just out to ruin their day, even at times when the person in question is concerned about them and trying to help them. Like, it's pretty much impossible to shore up one's weaknesses and work on them if we refuse to acknowledge that we HAVE weaknesses. I really don't think that the line between compromising who we are and what we love to fit in and just accepting everything regardless of flaws is that fine. I think it's pretty clearly defined. We just need a little bit of self-awareness.
The more you getting older, you would care less what people think of you anyway... So you youngster out there, plz don't be stressed out of people's opinion.
Yea i get him growing up and struggling to just be myself and love gaming and anime was hard. I still find it hard at 30 to just say to my work mates all i do is play video games:p
i am the type of guy that hits back, broke a few friendship cause of me roasting their hobby after they roast mine. don't play with fire if you don't wanna get burn.
I feel like he lost himself a little on his take, but I get where's going to and I totally respect it. I slightly disagree here and there, but hey he's right on "Who gives a s**?" and that's totally true XD
The first point he made ("you shouldn't care about other people's opinion on your taste") is bad and dangerous. The second point ("you should only care about the opinion of people you respect") is more sensible, although not entirely sensible. Let's take the example of the serial killer, let's say that he only respects the opinions of other serial killers due to his personal values. Therefore he won't stop being a serial killer just because normal people tell him to stop. He simply doesn't care about normal people's opinion. So this isn't the best advice either, still quite dangerous.
That's not what he meant and you're invoking a logical fallacy in your trivialization. Follow your logic tree, if Vesper said "Everyone should stay hydrated" you could twist it semantically to say "well if serial killers are hydrated they'll live longer and continue killing therefore Vesper is saying serial killers should live longer and that's dangerous." Terrible use if statement testing, the unsaid qualification to his statement is implied, he doesn't need to qualify his statement with "excluding bad people and bad opinions you shouldn't care about others opinions", it's just obvious.
@@BigSauce The statement "you should stay hydrated" is not a moral statement like the moral statements he made in the video. So your analogy is bad. And no, he didn't make it obvious that you should be a good person. After all he said that if somebody criticises his tastes he's going to pretend that this person doesn't exist as soon as they leave. That's pretty jaded and inconsiderate, not exactly what you would call benevolent.
Your example are way too extreme that it's actually ridiculous. At any rate, you can't just simply advice a serial killer to just stop killing around. Psychopath is a whole different genre when compared to normal behaviour.
@@afrizalaminuddin2717 Really now? The reason I mentioned the extreme example with the serial killer is because Vesper himself mentioned a serial killer in the clip. I didn't bring it up out of nowhere, it's entirely based on Vesper's words. You seem confused about what I wrote. My point was that if a serial killer followed Vesper's moral principle ("only listen to the opinions of people you respect") then from his perspective he might be encouraged to kill more without caring what normal people think. So it's not a very good principle overall. Plus serial killers aren't always psychopaths.
@@angelodescordo8455 brother, you took Vesper's words far too literally. His use of the term Serial Killer in his argument was a symbolic hyperbole for the types of people whose opinion the typical person should not need to respect. In the first place, all advice is generalized to some degree, so there's no way it can hold up in all scenarios, so your point doesn't discredit Vesper's statements at all in my eyes. If you wanted to make the argument that good people need to be aware of bad people's thoughts to keep themselves safe, you'd have a more convincing argument, but that's not your argument.
Grampa loves biking so he traveled America bikepacking from 1 side to the other. He grows peppers in his back yard. Drinks tea and has done alot of research on it. Collects zombie pantsu for fun. Debut stream talked about the plastic ball of copium. Dumpster dives for pc's and is very knowledgeable about pc building. Knows boomer memes this man is so based on so many levels its scary
Very based indeed.
He’s introverted and nerdy enough to be relatable, but also has healthy passions and hobbies that even lets him exercise. He’s so based and honestly a good role model
Wym by zombie pantsu?
I dont have that ref
Could you please expand
@@azvka in project zomboid, vesper would go around collecting zombie pantsu
And bought a f'n spear! Couldn't be more based than that.
I don't know what it is about Minecraft that always makes him get philosophical, but I'm here for it.
A monotonous work that only requires some base attention from your mind but not too much focus tends to be a good trigger for your brain to explore various topics. Frankly speaking your brain is a bit bored so it forces you to do something useful with it. 😁
Good lord he's like a therapist
Tell that to Kronii...
This is why I like Vesper. I'm pretty sure there will be more life lessons we can learn from him. I'm motivated.
The Tempus boys are all so incredibly based and funny. I'm so glad my path in life led to watching these boys 😄
Vesper is so based. Not to mention he’s a gifted teacher and orator.
I remember when people thought anime/manga were weird. Well look at it now. Good to have vesper here.
Vesper is like our grandpa, so many wise advices that we could take from him. Yep you don't need to change what you like based on other people xD
Are we worthy of Vesper's respect? We tried to stop him from collecting zombie's pantsu but didn't work 🤣
I think Vesper strength is storytelling and motivational speaker. I enjoy listening to his advices. It might be wrong to others but what matters is he tried to help you and he listened to you.
Reject society. Return to yourself.
We all out here just doin the best we can 🥺
*doing the Vest we can, ftfy 👍
"get despawned" lmao i loved that line.
somehow his rated-g trash talk still has bite to it. vampire moment I guess
This genuinely makes me feel better. I've kinda vaguely felt this way for years and it's SO nice to see someone with a platform say this too. Makes me feel way more confident in what I like.
I mean he is at that age where he doesn't care about what other people think about his hobbies. Just another perk to being a grandpa lol
He'll eventually get to the age where one realizes that no one was looking at us at all. Though to be fair, in these trying times, that saying doesn't hold much truth to it unfortunately. To expand on what I'm saying, because I know some will take it negatively. The saying goes: When you're young,think teenage years, you worry about what others think of you. When you're in your mid years, think early 20s to 30s, you tend not to care what others think of you. It's only when you're at the peak of the hill or about to start your descent, that you realize all this time no one really cared about you at all. By that I mean of course society at large. Your close relations such as family and friends took varying degrees of interest in regards to you and the way you lived your life. Though again, these days society seems to care too much about what you do or don't support/believe in.
Not sure if this was a pessimistic view that was shared with me at a much younger age by my uncle one day, but I feel it does hold some truth to it. Sorry the ramblings, the climb has been a bitch, but at least it's all downhill from here.
@@GoldyGoldmembers
There is a thing called positive nihilism that kinda embraces the topic you wrote about but dials it up to eleven.
It wants you to acknowledge that in the grand scheme nothing you do is relevant. But instead of mourning the inevitable irrelevance of your accomplishments it wants you to realize that even your failures do not matter that much. So you should try out and do what you want. Who cares if you make a fool out of yourself? It's just as irrelevant as any achievement. So live carefree and the best way you can. 😊
@@7shinta7 oh I can kinda understand that~
@@7shinta7 i'm kinda like that, but instead i believe everything we do will matter in the future, as if we had to do it for time to continue on, something like "destiny", i would say
me writting this is also one of those things, who knows what could happen to the world because of my actions? that's why i chose to believe that every action everyone does will matter in the future
it doesn't matter if it was an achievement or a failure, it was destiny. And, because it was destiny, i don't bother too much when i do a mistake or two, it was gonna happen anyways, so why bother? we have to live the best of our lives anyways, remembering every mistake like it was the worst is not the best for our lives
at least that's my point of view
I don't wanna wait till my 40s to enjoy what i like
It's always a tough call. We all know people who we wish would disregard the opinions of others and believe in themselves more, but we also all know people who we wish would take the opinions of others to heart and become less self-centered.
I am recovering from burnout due to a lot of reasons, but people pleasing is one of the big bads when it comes to my mental health.
It was nice to hear this today, I think I needed it 😊✨
he's this close to talking about world philosophy and I'm all for it
This is like the best attitude to have in regards to others' opinions. 10/10, Vesper never fails to surprise me
based granddad
so basically just "k" them when they rant about something to rile you up about something you like
It's better: He confronts them with the absolute irrelevance of their opinions for his life choices.
If someone is irrelevant to you (because you don't know or respect them) so is their opinion. 😎✌🏻
Love grandpa. So wise
BASED BOOMER
I love Sonic. And his Game's are good. I've learned this knowledge through years of people, for no reason really, trying to convince me and others that our experiences and our memories and our preferences are wrong. Eat it, school bullies who I don't remember the faces or names of, I'm still a Sonic fan after all these years.
Vesper is right, what they say doesn't matter because they don't matter.
This is why I also like Vesper, he is wise.
A fellow Sonic lover
another thing to keep in mind, debating and trash talking are often just people making their own fun. not always warranted, but even they aren't taking it seriously
Vesper is genuinely so inspiring to me. I’m glad that he shares his wisdom with us. He’s telling the world what needs to be said. Thank you Grandpa 🙏
watching this one again before a writing session
good words
Thank you, Vesper.
Take notes kids, grandpa is spittin facts.
Gotta love him for beeing that based. 😌🙏🏻
Love yourself everyone ❤
Alternative title: "Wiseman Vesper on mastering the art of zero f-words to give while also being respectful and considerate towards others"
Vesper is so wise and intelligent, this was very nice to hear
This guy is such a g.
Solid advice old man. I'll take that with me from this day forward 💯💯💯
ive had a circle of 'friends' i wa playing videogames with from junior highschool until before college started
i started to ignore them at that point because they kept talking shit about what games i play because they cant play with me when they have low end pc's and just force me to play league of legends
My entire life revolves around: "I love this. If you think this is fine then we're good. And if you think this is shit, then I'm gonna love it even harder to piss you off"
that can be fun, but taken too far it can open you up to reverse psychology
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx Please, do tell me how loving what I love can be reverse-psychology'd.
@@SaganTheKhajiit people flanderize themselves in the name of pissing off people they don't like. you do you but it's still a way of letting someone you don't like define your behavior.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx So... not changing my behavior because of how other people think is letting other people change my behavior? Alright then, if you say so.
@@SaganTheKhajiit I can only explain it to you, I can't understand it for you.
This is basically how I think. If someone says the thing I like is bad because it sucks, why would I care what an idiot thinks? Or maybe a person has bad taste. Or maybe they have some good points but it doesn't take away from the thing I like . There are things which I keep to myself and a few people, because I just don't want to deal with the reactions and comments and arguments that don't change anyones' mind-despite me having completely valid points for why they're wrong-but I still just enjoy it on my own.
Based
I understand what Vesper's saying, and by and large I agree, but I see too many people these days who just absolutely, positively cannot accept criticism. Some of them are an Elon Musk or a Kanye West who have obscene amounts of money, but others are just regular people like your friends, family or co-workers. They have been taught that anyone who questions them or their interests is a "hater", inept, ignorant, and just out to ruin their day, even at times when the person in question is concerned about them and trying to help them.
Like, it's pretty much impossible to shore up one's weaknesses and work on them if we refuse to acknowledge that we HAVE weaknesses. I really don't think that the line between compromising who we are and what we love to fit in and just accepting everything regardless of flaws is that fine. I think it's pretty clearly defined. We just need a little bit of self-awareness.
based
The more you getting older, you would care less what people think of you anyway...
So you youngster out there, plz don't be stressed out of people's opinion.
Yea i get him growing up and struggling to just be myself and love gaming and anime was hard. I still find it hard at 30 to just say to my work mates all i do is play video games:p
What if... What if the serial killer *aproves* of my actions!?
"Vesper Wisdom Clips" are a thing?
i am the type of guy that hits back, broke a few friendship cause of me roasting their hobby after they roast mine. don't play with fire if you don't wanna get burn.
Vesper is based as always
1:39 He lacks object permanence?
What if they're a serial killer, but they also happen to be an expert in art and singing?
I feel like he lost himself a little on his take, but I get where's going to and I totally respect it. I slightly disagree here and there, but hey he's right on "Who gives a s**?" and that's totally true XD
I dont know man some people are just weird
The first point he made ("you shouldn't care about other people's opinion on your taste") is bad and dangerous. The second point ("you should only care about the opinion of people you respect") is more sensible, although not entirely sensible.
Let's take the example of the serial killer, let's say that he only respects the opinions of other serial killers due to his personal values. Therefore he won't stop being a serial killer just because normal people tell him to stop. He simply doesn't care about normal people's opinion. So this isn't the best advice either, still quite dangerous.
That's not what he meant and you're invoking a logical fallacy in your trivialization. Follow your logic tree, if Vesper said "Everyone should stay hydrated" you could twist it semantically to say "well if serial killers are hydrated they'll live longer and continue killing therefore Vesper is saying serial killers should live longer and that's dangerous." Terrible use if statement testing, the unsaid qualification to his statement is implied, he doesn't need to qualify his statement with "excluding bad people and bad opinions you shouldn't care about others opinions", it's just obvious.
@@BigSauce The statement "you should stay hydrated" is not a moral statement like the moral statements he made in the video. So your analogy is bad. And no, he didn't make it obvious that you should be a good person. After all he said that if somebody criticises his tastes he's going to pretend that this person doesn't exist as soon as they leave. That's pretty jaded and inconsiderate, not exactly what you would call benevolent.
Your example are way too extreme that it's actually ridiculous.
At any rate, you can't just simply advice a serial killer to just stop killing around.
Psychopath is a whole different genre when compared to normal behaviour.
@@afrizalaminuddin2717 Really now? The reason I mentioned the extreme example with the serial killer is because Vesper himself mentioned a serial killer in the clip. I didn't bring it up out of nowhere, it's entirely based on Vesper's words.
You seem confused about what I wrote. My point was that if a serial killer followed Vesper's moral principle ("only listen to the opinions of people you respect") then from his perspective he might be encouraged to kill more without caring what normal people think. So it's not a very good principle overall. Plus serial killers aren't always psychopaths.
@@angelodescordo8455 brother, you took Vesper's words far too literally. His use of the term Serial Killer in his argument was a symbolic hyperbole for the types of people whose opinion the typical person should not need to respect. In the first place, all advice is generalized to some degree, so there's no way it can hold up in all scenarios, so your point doesn't discredit Vesper's statements at all in my eyes. If you wanted to make the argument that good people need to be aware of bad people's thoughts to keep themselves safe, you'd have a more convincing argument, but that's not your argument.