Altare: commits the most extreme warcrimes Axel: unfiltered but pure (like a spring) Magni: Magni Vesper: doesn't speak much but lets out some horrendous knowledge which indicates that he has definitely seen some shit
Altare gotta keep up the Blue=Most Yabai theme we got going Suisei=psycopath Pekora=war criminal Gura=gremlin shark Kobo=raging demon shaman Lamy=drunk elf And now Altare=self-proclaimed hero but actually the demon god
Axel is undoubtedly most seiso. Swearing is just part of the northern Elysium vocabulary and his jokes might be a lil sus sometimes, but if he's the puppy of Tempus, he's the goodest of bois.
While Vesper might have the most cursed knowledge. Probably because he's a boomer who's been around since Internet 1 (weird I know but we're Technically on internet 2 and web3.0 is the whole craze on blockchain right now.) He is arguably also one of the most wholesome. Him and his melted sticky plastic ball of inspiration and collection of feel good panties.
*"A disturbed individual"* lol Love that Dez casually roasted Axel while also praising him 🤣 They shared the same braincells, meaning they should also shared the same seisoness, right? xD That ending, Dez is like Matsuri. They're both seiso representative 😂😂
Seisoness is knowledge + mindset. Someone who chooses to be seiso but has seen some shit can never be seiso on the same level as someone who hasn't seen some shit. That is because someone who has seen some shit can potentially be more unseiso if they choose to be unseiso.
Vesper is right about that seisoness thing, people always try to quantify how seiso someone is by their knowledge but i think it is a mindset, for example enna from nijisanji insists constantly that she is seiso only because she doesnt know the meaning of some words or because she hasnt seen this or that but i think those are just outside factors and her way of thinking is as unseiso as it gets
every group chat got the: tax evader and stone cold killer (altare) Patrick Bateman larper (magni) trigger happy sus foreigner (axel) FBI agent making it all happen (vesper)
"A disturbed individual" 🤣. That whole stream was just gold 💙💜🧡🖤. This and the one with Ollie, Magni, and Vesper are just too good. Recommend watching both whole streams 👌👌
I think seiso is not about what you know, but what you give place to. Everyone at some point have seison't knowledge, but your acts (and words, in this case) defines you.
Given the topic of this clip, I think it's important to distinguish between seiso (as thought of within Japanese idol culture) and wholesomeness (as we Western folk think of things). The #1 example here is Marine. Marine is not by the definition of Japanese idol culture 'seiso'; she's sexual, often course, and willing to discuss things that more seiso idol's won't. However, given that, she's incredibly wholesome - yes, she's super horny, but the way she interacts with both her chat and the other members of hololive, she is incredibly considerate, super in-tune with people's feelings, and just generally 'feel-good'. I'll admit that I've not personally run into someone who is seiso but not wholesome; I think it might be like a Venn Diagram where wholesome as a greater category has seiso and not-seiso as elements within it.
They say Knowledge is Power, and i agree. What they don't tell you is that Power is a Burden, and the sometimes, the Power gained is not worth the Burden it carries
Much like the alignment chart, it's not based on what you do and why you did it (with certain exceptions). Vesper basically desribed himself as the "Can say Fuck, but won't say Fuck" person. *dings him for lawful good* ...what were we talking about again?
i thik it's a bit of both. The amount of cursed knowledge and actions/mindset. Not just lwdness, but violence and other cursed things count too. Altare is definitely the least seiso in that sense. He's a fucking psychopath pretending to be normal. And Axel is the most, cuz all he does is he curses
Let's compare the seiso charts in the clip with another topic: Criminal: If you commit a crime, you're a criminal If you have the knowledge of how to do it in the worst way possible, you're not a criminal, you're just a degenerate.
Hey, magni is right thou 😂 its like Altare is the most expert of not being seisou thats why he can control it so well for act to be seiso. While axel is like...only the surface, even she is not seiso in the surface, but it stays on that, no deeper meaning.
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Altare: commits the most extreme warcrimes
Axel: unfiltered but pure (like a spring)
Magni: Magni
Vesper: doesn't speak much but lets out some horrendous knowledge which indicates that he has definitely seen some shit
I do agree about Vesper, man had a ball of plastic as a therapist and to remind him that his life is worth living
Vesper has peered long into the abyss, but he was wearing his safety goggles just like the posters in middle school science class taught him to.
Altare gotta keep up the Blue=Most Yabai theme we got going
Suisei=psycopath
Pekora=war criminal
Gura=gremlin shark
Kobo=raging demon shaman
Lamy=drunk elf
And now Altare=self-proclaimed hero but actually the demon god
@@sambuddy4465 You forgot their starsJP senpai, bud
Astel = spawn of satan
@@headoverheels899 I related to that story way too much.
I kinda have to agree with Vesper being the least seiso.
Grandpa has forbidden knowledge even we aren't ready for
Also Grandpa infront of underwear drawer: *"I'M SO RICH!"*
Knowing the gladiator is an Australian, swearing is like second breath. Axel is indeed the most seiso.
Chat: Boys, make a joke
The boys: We're not joking, we're seiso
Chat: Haha, good one
Axel just curses because he's Australian
Axel is undoubtedly most seiso. Swearing is just part of the northern Elysium vocabulary and his jokes might be a lil sus sometimes, but if he's the puppy of Tempus, he's the goodest of bois.
The cultured Vesper: Ok then, I am absolutely the least seiso.
While Vesper might have the most cursed knowledge. Probably because he's a boomer who's been around since Internet 1 (weird I know but we're Technically on internet 2 and web3.0 is the whole craze on blockchain right now.) He is arguably also one of the most wholesome. Him and his melted sticky plastic ball of inspiration and collection of feel good panties.
Vesper is the Eldritch Hefty load.
*"A disturbed individual"* lol
Love that Dez casually roasted Axel while also praising him 🤣
They shared the same braincells, meaning they should also shared the same seisoness, right? xD
That ending, Dez is like Matsuri. They're both seiso representative 😂😂
Altare is the least seiso because League of Legends.
this conversation is intellectually on par with the ancient debates of Socrates and Aristotle
Seisoness is knowledge + mindset. Someone who chooses to be seiso but has seen some shit can never be seiso on the same level as someone who hasn't seen some shit. That is because someone who has seen some shit can potentially be more unseiso if they choose to be unseiso.
Everytime the “se-se-sexual” part comes up i feel like throwing my phone WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS LEADER LMFAOOO
Vesper is right about that seisoness thing, people always try to quantify how seiso someone is by their knowledge but i think it is a mindset, for example enna from nijisanji insists constantly that she is seiso only because she doesnt know the meaning of some words or because she hasnt seen this or that but i think those are just outside factors and her way of thinking is as unseiso as it gets
Axel seems unseiso but is actually quite seiso.
Dezmond said twice in this video that he's "Under Axel".
You are not seiso.
There is a reason why Altare is demon god king
demon princess
The convo 11 year olds have at the table while discussing what goku version is the most powerful
As much as Magni's chart makes sense, if you combine both seisoness criteria, he is about in the same realm as Vesp.
Gotta agree with Magni's chart
every group chat got the:
tax evader and stone cold killer (altare)
Patrick Bateman larper (magni)
trigger happy sus foreigner (axel)
FBI agent making it all happen (vesper)
Altare is overall the least Seiso.
true, grampire knows so many forbidden knowledge
Nearly a year of the boys have passed, and from this we all know for sure how seiso axel really is right?
Altare/Axel: Dezmond has died
Vesper: Oh no, anyways...
Dez then: "Axel is the most seiso"
Dez now: "He's got to cool it with the dick & balls"
You know it's a good bunch when Sonic lemon enjoyer is the 2nd most seiso.
What I learned from this clip is that when it comes to being most to least seiso, Vesper has his own category XD
"A disturbed individual" 🤣. That whole stream was just gold 💙💜🧡🖤. This and the one with Ollie, Magni, and Vesper are just too good. Recommend watching both whole streams 👌👌
The boys truly getting to the bottom of this, of what truly means to have “The Seiso Mindset”
I agree with Dez
Dumbness is immunity to Eldeitch induced Insanity, so, yeah, Axel checks out
I think seiso is not about what you know, but what you give place to. Everyone at some point have seison't knowledge, but your acts (and words, in this case) defines you.
Mr Lemon put himself second lmao
Just the boys having a philosophical talk over video games. Super relatable 😄
The least seiso? All of them. At All times.
-"silent but deadly"
-"like a fart"
I had to pause for a solid minute bcs I couldn't stop laughing 🤣🤣
Given the topic of this clip, I think it's important to distinguish between seiso (as thought of within Japanese idol culture) and wholesomeness (as we Western folk think of things).
The #1 example here is Marine. Marine is not by the definition of Japanese idol culture 'seiso'; she's sexual, often course, and willing to discuss things that more seiso idol's won't. However, given that, she's incredibly wholesome - yes, she's super horny, but the way she interacts with both her chat and the other members of hololive, she is incredibly considerate, super in-tune with people's feelings, and just generally 'feel-good'.
I'll admit that I've not personally run into someone who is seiso but not wholesome; I think it might be like a Venn Diagram where wholesome as a greater category has seiso and not-seiso as elements within it.
Seiso in terms of violence vs seiso in terms of lewdness
the way he says vehemently
This was a beautiful section. Thank you for clipping this, I do not have much free time to catch full VODs!!
i do think altare is seiso, he's just a brat
One month later I retract my comment after his illegal hand holding with magni dezmond of Holostars tempus
They say Knowledge is Power, and i agree.
What they don't tell you is that Power is a Burden, and the sometimes, the Power gained is not worth the Burden it carries
I agree with another comment. Altare is probably more of a brat than unseiso LMFAOOOO but then again, he had to ask to double check what seiso meant…
you could probably make an argument with Axel's unseisoness after he sang black cherry. the lyrics are incredibly unseiso
the boys know who in private is the dirtiest one
Wow, Magni, your Copium is working ...
Even when Axel wins, he loses.
Vesper has visited 4chan.
Okay sign up for tempus rice purity test score reveal petition lmaoo
Axel is a clean himbo? I buy it xD
Much like the alignment chart, it's not based on what you do and why you did it (with certain exceptions). Vesper basically desribed himself as the "Can say Fuck, but won't say Fuck" person. *dings him for lawful good*
...what were we talking about again?
i thik it's a bit of both. The amount of cursed knowledge and actions/mindset. Not just lwdness, but violence and other cursed things count too. Altare is definitely the least seiso in that sense. He's a fucking psychopath pretending to be normal. And Axel is the most, cuz all he does is he curses
When it, comes, whe- i- comes, when it kums 😂😂😂
My god Magni really was just yapping half the time I’m like what is this guy even saying 💀💀
My take on the Tempus "seiso" chart which I will not elaborate (least to most):
Altare, Axel, Vesper, Dez
Pretty interesting !
The seiso grindset
I agree with magni
So axel is monke? Welcome to the monke gang axel
Let's compare the seiso charts in the clip with another topic:
Criminal:
If you commit a crime, you're a criminal
If you have the knowledge of how to do it in the worst way possible, you're not a criminal, you're just a degenerate.
Yeah seiso isn't a mindset it's a way of life.
Seiso is behavior
No one caught Altare did word play of seiso with spilling soysauce.. 😂 His dark side was surfacing a bit..
Hey, magni is right thou 😂 its like Altare is the most expert of not being seisou thats why he can control it so well for act to be seiso. While axel is like...only the surface, even she is not seiso in the surface, but it stays on that, no deeper meaning.
Big kusa
Anyone who knows Magni’s past life knows that he is definitely the most unseiso. In terms of seisoness, Magni=
Can you elaborate please?
@@LowHind Magni was a certain twitch anime/memes professor, and also cosplayed as Astolfo.
@@kimjongun9311 oh god lmao
Oh wow, I never mentally connected the voice to his past work, now I can't unhear it
@@kimjongun9311 my brain take double take on that astolfo
I forgot what seiso is 😶