great idea...my wife would appreciate it but one thing that doesn't sit well with me is the fan emulators. what happens if the inline fan fails and the ASIC doesn't know to shutdown?
i bought this kit for my s19xp, ill be installing it in my house as soon as we start heating $$. i was wondering, wont the miner stop mining by itself if it hits the max temp shut off? Or does bypassing the stock fans cancel this feature? thanks for the installation video.
It's great stuff they made. Keeping noise low while having lower power consumption and better cooling is just great. One thing bothers me tho, I think they can make addition not so hard imo. Those fan emulators should be connected to big fan so if fan started misbehaving ASIC should shut down due to signal sent through fan emulator. Like fan not working or all fans not working I don't think it should be hard to make, and it keeps ASIC safe from destroying it's self. Good video man, thx 👌
I asked an electrician. He said that you can add a thermal resistor in the circuit. Once the inline fan fails/stops, the resistor collapse and the miner stops working due to the absence of power supply! Therefore you don’t have to worry about your precious miner!
Nice Setup! Love the Fruits and Associate Shroud System. How are you adding Intake into that Room? As that Inline fan is exhausting 800 CFM constantly if on High. Do you believe the siliencers are worth it? Or do you believe you can get away without them? As i know the inline fan is rather quiet. Enjoy!
Went through it a bit but on hot days I was using a normal industrial fan to just blow out a window while the other 2 windows bring in air from the exhaust fan basement acts as a natural wind tunnel as it's air tight this replaces the fan and acts as the exhaust on top of quieting down the miner. For the silencers would depend on the person and what they can tolerate the fan could be fine alone depending on the person.
@@RabidMining I can buy silencers 6 or 4. Or is it required to reduce the silencers 8 ? Or is it because the semimeridian of Asic is 8 . Does silencers 6 or 4 have the same 50% reduction function as silencers 8? With 6 or 4 silencers we can save costs . Do we need 2 silencers and 1 acinfinity ?
So what happends if the AC Infinity Fan breaks after lets say 1 year of use. Is the Miner capable of shutting itself down in time? Or is it gonna burn away? And if it shuts down, is it fast enough without damaging the Miner?
just a heads up you can buy a njord cloudline fan controller that hooks up to the asic miner and controls the fan speed so you don't run into the safety issue you see here
Just check for the full installation kits , total cost over $1000aud , I would rather buy immersion cooling C2 for a long term, thanks for sharing the video
Great video! Should have unplugged the PSU fans but left them in and just have the inline fan spin them. And you can turn the S8 fan speed down to 6-7 dots and still be fine on temps (lower than 75c outlet is good). Would be even more silent that way
@@RabidMining you are amazing ❤️ I might buy one soon and got to get it quiet so I don’t upset anyone (I’m in apartment and will hook it to my 230v 60amp oven outlet ) do you happen to know where I can get the little fan spoofers ? So they think they are always on? Do you think the s21 model uses the same spoofs as you use ?
Just stumbled on this video 6+ months later, I want one!!! The only reason I do not have a large basic at home is noise (my wife would kill me) cannot believe how good this is. Now to find a UK supplier.
Rabid Mining wow brother awesome 👏 review of the shroud and overall setup, the only thing I wish you did was check how much watts the fan use at setting 4 and 5, including the noise levels because I never run more than level 5 during the summer and 4 during winter. Very cool review.
One more thing when shutdown the miner you need to unplug the miner first and wait 2min or so before turning off the fan that’s if you overclock because the chips will be running very hot when you OC so it’s very important to keep the fan running for a few min after the miner is unplug, no need for extra fan run time if you under volt, only for OC.
Hello, I’m having an issue with my fruition setup. I’m getting errors on all four fans with the following message: "Fan is not detected or its speed is low. Check whether the fan connection is normal, replace the power supply, or replace the fan." I thought the emulator was supposed to fix this problem. When I connected one of the original ASIC fans that I had removed, the error for that fan disappeared, so it seems like either the emulator or the connection to the emulator isn’t working correctly. I’ve tried reaching out to Fruition, but I haven’t received any response. Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to download specific firmware? I’m currently using the latest firmware for the Antminer S21 (February release). My machine is a antminer s21. Thank you for taking the time to help.
@@RabidMining What do you mean with spoofers? With my order I got: - S21" Series 4 Pin ATX (2x2) to Fan Emulator Adaptors and emulators connected to the adaptors. - 4x emulators My order was Bitamin deluxe crypto/asic silencing and cooling kit x1
You are actually overstressing the fans for the PSU when you force them through you extra fan. There is actually no reason that you extra fan should be connected to the psu, as the PSU fans are running anyways.
Try install ur ventilation fan back on the window. Tie/install the end of the ducting to the back of the ventilation fan. The ventilation fan will remove the heat from the room and hot exhaust from the duct out the window.
it will be harder to install but a torin fan will be queter from the start and might not need a silencer if youre not too picky you need one that flows about 412.00 cfm wish is about the same as the 200 mm tubefan youre running there available build in a mdf or metal box and can be ordered in a silent box (basicly the same box but lined with the same foam as in those silencers) , they actually can build up a lot more airpressure / force more air trough the ducts , you can ask to not have the hole on the blow side cut or tell them the height from the bottom so you can mount it to get it to sit level with the miningrig and the ducting installed on it (or use some flexhose) looking intoo silencing mining rigs myself and have considered inmersion cooling , one advantage is the direct heat transfer to the fluid wish eliminate hotspots that can happen when airflow is interupted inside the machine say by a piece of dirt or a bent coolingblock rib or an overactive / failing asic and you can run at clockspeed that are about 50 percent higher without as mush as a peep of disagreement from the mining rig , the huge downside is the fluid itself , its heavy when you need to get 50 liters of it up 4 flights of stairs to youre apartment , expensive , and youre rig will be drenched in it when you pull it out and drip all over the floor to where you need to work on it oh , and if youre tank or pump system strikes a leak it will spill about 50 liters all over the bedroomfloor i live in the 2nd floor of a 3 floor apartment hense the need for silence , my neighbour wakes up when i as mush as drop a shoe on the floor or flush the toilet so sleeping while hearing sumting simulair to a plane on takeoff whont do , now that same neighbour wouldnt be at all pleased if oil start leaking out of his ceiling , so aircooled it is staying going to look intoo having the mining rig controll the speed on the big extraction fan , it allready does regulate the speed of the computerfans so you should basicly be able to do a speedcontroller that plugs in place of one of the fanspeed simulators to translate the power output from the controllboard for the 12 volt casefan to regulate the 220 volt torinfan and be done , should be litterally plug and play as for melting the asics when the fan blows a breaker , you could run sumting like a latching relay (look it up on youtube ) or just a relay , that would shut the power off to the mining rig if you loose power to the fan
Noise always be a problem, this is very impressive my man! My farm is remote to where I live and work. I use PLC, relays and contactors and frequency converter to control system like these, it made sure if my master fan and local fan(miner's specialized fan like yours) is off, the ASIC and Server cases won't get power at all. Also PLC can control each individual of ASIC's and server case's power circuit, which I need to reboot of them physically, I can do it like 800 kms away and won't affect whoe farm's operation. That can be a fun side project as well, I learned PLC myself thru youtube videos. Normally Simens PLC 1214 only cost about $400 in US. Now I hooked up thermalcouples to measure farm inlet/outlet air temperatures and feed it to PLC, then PLC can auto control speed of my master fan. now I only go to my farm at quarterly basis just to dust them off or adding new hardwares.
To anyone's interest: I'm not specialized in mechanical or electrical enginnering, but in Aerospace Enginnering (yeah like rocket science!). Which involes a lot of fluid and aerodynamic stuff, I do kept my farm's flow profile and temperature at optimal.
My master fan is a 1m x 1m diamter exhaust fan operations maximum at 1400RPM, thru PLC, I can define running profiles like keeping the fan only at 10% of max speed when farm temp is below 25C.
There a reason why you didn’t take the PSU fans out? I have the same kit and I’m debating it, I worry that the in-line fan over spin the PSU fans Also, to get an accurate measurement of power, you should’ve put the stock ASIC fans to 100%
sorry mate but with one fast calculation, someone will need like 400-500$ i think still it doesnt worth it except your wife/neighbor are ready to kick you out of your home 😀
I use minimum set up ($174+$179=$353) on S19 XP. Only installed AC Infinity S8 inline fan and the front shroud. Did not installed the back shroud. The back shroud reduce the air flow. By not installing the back shroud, I can use lower fan setting 8/10 instead 9/10 or 10/10. Did not install the duct. Noise level goes down from 83db to 72db (for fan setting 8/10). More noise are coming out from the air intake side (S8 side) compared to the air outtake side. I guess for more quietness, use AC Infinity Silencer on the intake/S8 side. For max quietness, use the silencer on both side.
@@RabidMining Listened to it twice now, I hear a lot about the fans and their emulators for sure and removing the psu-fan guards. Nothing about the psu-fans being disconnected:/ When in video are you mentioning this?
@@RabidMining Oh okay, so the PSU-fans keep spinning? Good to know. I did hear someone say you can disconnect them opening up the PSU but that it's not recommended as opening PSUs in general is a very risky proposition,
great idea...my wife would appreciate it but one thing that doesn't sit well with me is the fan emulators. what happens if the inline fan fails and the ASIC doesn't know to shutdown?
i bought this kit for my s19xp, ill be installing it in my house as soon as we start heating $$. i was wondering, wont the miner stop mining by itself if it hits the max temp shut off? Or does bypassing the stock fans cancel this feature? thanks for the installation video.
On The Fence About Big ASICs Due To Noise? Hope This HELPS!!! I silenced The E300 Also Here th-cam.com/video/wotG5706IY0/w-d-xo.html
It's great stuff they made. Keeping noise low while having lower power consumption and better cooling is just great. One thing bothers me tho, I think they can make addition not so hard imo.
Those fan emulators should be connected to big fan so if fan started misbehaving ASIC should shut down due to signal sent through fan emulator. Like fan not working or all fans not working
I don't think it should be hard to make, and it keeps ASIC safe from destroying it's self.
Good video man, thx 👌
I asked an electrician. He said that you can add a thermal resistor in the circuit. Once the inline fan fails/stops, the resistor collapse and the miner stops working due to the absence of power supply!
Therefore you don’t have to worry about your precious miner!
I can't find, I'm talking about the 2 ac infinity pipes because they are not in the link.
Have you tried immersion cooling?
Should be labeled as silencers in the description
Do you think one silencer on the intake side would be enough?
Probably
Yea
@Rabid, Are you running two silencers? I want to purchase the kit and wondering if one silencer on the fan side would be fine with the exit pipe?
One is fine in the front just to silence the fan
Nice Setup! Love the Fruits and Associate Shroud System.
How are you adding Intake into that Room? As that Inline fan is exhausting 800 CFM constantly if on High.
Do you believe the siliencers are worth it? Or do you believe you can get away without them? As i know the inline fan is rather quiet.
Enjoy!
Went through it a bit but on hot days I was using a normal industrial fan to just blow out a window while the other 2 windows bring in air from the exhaust fan basement acts as a natural wind tunnel as it's air tight this replaces the fan and acts as the exhaust on top of quieting down the miner. For the silencers would depend on the person and what they can tolerate the fan could be fine alone depending on the person.
Good morning,
I am very interested in your solution. Where did you purchase your 23 inch infinity ac hose?
Everything is in the description
Can anyone try how much noise can be reduce by just putting the AC Infility silencer on both side on the stock fan.
Yep same question
we need use 2 AC infinity for 1 asic machine ?
No just 1
@@RabidMining Why do I see one at the beginning and one at the tail?
@user-rt6nk9sc4y those are silencers
@@RabidMining I can buy silencers 6 or 4. Or is it required to reduce the silencers 8 ? Or is it because the semimeridian of Asic is 8 . Does silencers 6 or 4 have the same 50% reduction function as silencers 8? With 6 or 4 silencers we can save costs . Do we need 2 silencers and 1 acinfinity ?
@user-rt6nk9sc4y not sure should work just haven't tried the smaller ones
So what happends if the AC Infinity Fan breaks after lets say 1 year of use. Is the Miner capable of shutting itself down in time? Or is it gonna burn away? And if it shuts down, is it fast enough without damaging the Miner?
Ya they quit after they get over 80c I think
just a heads up you can buy a njord cloudline fan controller that hooks up to the asic miner and controls the fan speed so you don't run into the safety issue you see here
Ya thx I do have a updated video using it.
Just check for the full installation kits , total cost over $1000aud , I would rather buy immersion cooling C2 for a long term, thanks for sharing the video
Think immersion ends up more and uses a fair bit more power doesn't it?
hey rabid how does it compare to adding a water cooler radiator or sumbermersion in terms or temp vs power usage ?
Think liquid cooling needs more power and more expensive to set up
@@RabidMining what about noice level of the radiators ? thoughts
@gingerversestudios not sure should be silent
@@RabidMining 80db on 8k-12k radiator % pump. think im gonna stick to air becasue it seems more efficient and silent
Hi , great video. Do those fan simulators work on Antminer S21 ?
Not sure yet
Them shrouds look really nice but so expensive for only inc the psu venting part.
Great video! Should have unplugged the PSU fans but left them in and just have the inline fan spin them. And you can turn the S8 fan speed down to 6-7 dots and still be fine on temps (lower than 75c outlet is good). Would be even more silent that way
Slowly moving to 71 outlet now but is 35c ambient is a super hot day today lol
Bitcoin Bazooka!! LMFAO! very funny - great work Rabid!
Lol thx
Is this version of btc miner better?
What do you mean version?
A+, Rabid. Great demo. John Fruits does a great job building the 3D-printed components and the AC Infinity blowers and silencers round it out nicely.
Thx!! Ya they are great.
Hi I was wondering what is the name of the powercord I need for a Antminer s21 200Th/s
C14 to c13
@@RabidMining you are amazing ❤️ I might buy one soon and got to get it quiet so I don’t upset anyone (I’m in apartment and will hook it to my 230v 60amp oven outlet ) do you happen to know where I can get the little fan spoofers ? So they think they are always on? Do you think the s21 model uses the same spoofs as you use ?
@randomplayer7179 fruitations sells them with the kits also I have a updated video with the auto fan spoofer
Just stumbled on this video 6+ months later, I want one!!! The only reason I do not have a large basic at home is noise (my wife would kill me) cannot believe how good this is. Now to find a UK supplier.
Did you have any issues doing this since I did it I keep getting a missing fan error after 6/7 hours mining any solutions
Check to make sure the fan spoofers are tight
Rabid Mining wow brother awesome 👏 review of the shroud and overall setup, the only thing I wish you did was check how much watts the fan use at setting 4 and 5, including the noise levels because I never run more than level 5 during the summer and 4 during winter. Very cool review.
Can do a full fan check video of each setting in the future
Also if the external fan goes down, the miner controller will shutdown the miner if temps gets over 80-85c
One more thing when shutdown the miner you need to unplug the miner first and wait 2min or so before turning off the fan that’s if you overclock because the chips will be running very hot when you OC so it’s very important to keep the fan running for a few min after the miner is unplug, no need for extra fan run time if you under volt, only for OC.
Right on so bit of a safety still
Got a big ass miner or a hydrogen collider ?
Lol
I enjoy the video on making ASICS home mineable! Will you be expanding your asic setup or just this one for the moment?
Am limited on power I want to but gotta see what comes later on in the year.
Do you have a kit M30s+?
No I don't
Hello,
I’m having an issue with my fruition setup. I’m getting errors on all four fans with the following message:
"Fan is not detected or its speed is low. Check whether the fan connection is normal, replace the power supply, or replace the fan."
I thought the emulator was supposed to fix this problem. When I connected one of the original ASIC fans that I had removed, the error for that fan disappeared, so it seems like either the emulator or the connection to the emulator isn’t working correctly. I’ve tried reaching out to Fruition, but I haven’t received any response.
Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to download specific firmware? I’m currently using the latest firmware for the Antminer S21 (February release).
My machine is a antminer s21.
Thank you for taking the time to help.
Hmm spoofers are tight?
@@RabidMining What do you mean with spoofers?
With my order I got:
- S21" Series 4 Pin ATX (2x2) to Fan Emulator Adaptors
and emulators connected to the adaptors.
- 4x emulators
My order was Bitamin deluxe crypto/asic silencing and cooling kit x1
@redabenchi the emulators
You are actually overstressing the fans for the PSU when you force them through you extra fan. There is actually no reason that you extra fan should be connected to the psu, as the PSU fans are running anyways.
Can take them out as well if needed.
Try install ur ventilation fan back on the window. Tie/install the end of the ducting to the back of the ventilation fan. The ventilation fan will remove the heat from the room and hot exhaust from the duct out the window.
Ya could try that
it will be harder to install but a torin fan will be queter from the start and might not need a silencer if youre not too picky
you need one that flows about 412.00 cfm wish is about the same as the 200 mm tubefan youre running
there available build in a mdf or metal box and can be ordered in a silent box (basicly the same box but lined with the same foam as in those silencers) , they actually can build up a lot more airpressure / force more air trough the ducts , you can ask to not have the hole on the blow side cut or tell them the height from the bottom so you can mount it to get it to sit level with the miningrig and the ducting installed on it (or use some flexhose)
looking intoo silencing mining rigs myself and have considered inmersion cooling , one advantage is the direct heat transfer to the fluid wish eliminate hotspots that can happen when airflow is interupted inside the machine say by a piece of dirt or a bent coolingblock rib or an overactive / failing asic and you can run at clockspeed that are about 50 percent higher without as mush as a peep of disagreement from the mining rig , the huge downside is the fluid itself , its heavy when you need to get 50 liters of it up 4 flights of stairs to youre apartment , expensive , and youre rig will be drenched in it when you pull it out and drip all over the floor to where you need to work on it
oh , and if youre tank or pump system strikes a leak it will spill about 50 liters all over the bedroomfloor
i live in the 2nd floor of a 3 floor apartment hense the need for silence , my neighbour wakes up when i as mush as drop a shoe on the floor or flush the toilet so sleeping while hearing sumting simulair to a plane on takeoff whont do , now that same neighbour wouldnt be at all pleased if oil start leaking out of his ceiling , so aircooled it is staying
going to look intoo having the mining rig controll the speed on the big extraction fan , it allready does regulate the speed of the computerfans so you should basicly be able to do a speedcontroller that plugs in place of one of the fanspeed simulators to translate the power output from the controllboard for the 12 volt casefan to regulate the 220 volt torinfan and be done , should be litterally plug and play
as for melting the asics when the fan blows a breaker , you could run sumting like a latching relay (look it up on youtube ) or just a relay , that would shut the power off to the mining rig if you loose power to the fan
Noise always be a problem, this is very impressive my man! My farm is remote to where I live and work. I use PLC, relays and contactors and frequency converter to control system like these, it made sure if my master fan and local fan(miner's specialized fan like yours) is off, the ASIC and Server cases won't get power at all. Also PLC can control each individual of ASIC's and server case's power circuit, which I need to reboot of them physically, I can do it like 800 kms away and won't affect whoe farm's operation. That can be a fun side project as well, I learned PLC myself thru youtube videos. Normally Simens PLC 1214 only cost about $400 in US. Now I hooked up thermalcouples to measure farm inlet/outlet air temperatures and feed it to PLC, then PLC can auto control speed of my master fan. now I only go to my farm at quarterly basis just to dust them off or adding new hardwares.
To anyone's interest: I'm not specialized in mechanical or electrical enginnering, but in Aerospace Enginnering (yeah like rocket science!). Which involes a lot of fluid and aerodynamic stuff, I do kept my farm's flow profile and temperature at optimal.
My master fan is a 1m x 1m diamter exhaust fan operations maximum at 1400RPM, thru PLC, I can define running profiles like keeping the fan only at 10% of max speed when farm temp is below 25C.
Nice!!
There a reason why you didn’t take the PSU fans out? I have the same kit and I’m debating it, I worry that the in-line fan over spin the PSU fans
Also, to get an accurate measurement of power, you should’ve put the stock ASIC fans to 100%
Nice setup! I like it......
Thx
Sir what's the price of this kit?
It's in the description
Its sick 😢 too much invested, never gonna buy out
sorry mate but with one fast calculation, someone will need like 400-500$ i think still it doesnt worth it except your wife/neighbor are ready to kick you out of your home 😀
I use minimum set up ($174+$179=$353) on S19 XP. Only installed AC Infinity S8 inline fan and the front shroud. Did not installed the back shroud. The back shroud reduce the air flow. By not installing the back shroud, I can use lower fan setting 8/10 instead 9/10 or 10/10. Did not install the duct. Noise level goes down from 83db to 72db (for fan setting 8/10). More noise are coming out from the air intake side (S8 side) compared to the air outtake side. I guess for more quietness, use AC Infinity Silencer on the intake/S8 side. For max quietness, use the silencer on both side.
Because of this hectic process, pi network, the king is arriving.
Hmm, did you unplug the PSU-fans somehow? To me those fans make the most annyoing noise anyways.
It's all in the video
@@RabidMining Listened to it twice now, I hear a lot about the fans and their emulators for sure and removing the psu-fan guards. Nothing about the psu-fans being disconnected:/ When in video are you mentioning this?
Fans for the psu stayed in but the kit makes them silence can't hear them those are the only fans that remain on.
@@RabidMining Oh okay, so the PSU-fans keep spinning? Good to know. I did hear someone say you can disconnect them opening up the PSU but that it's not recommended as opening PSUs in general is a very risky proposition,
Yes it is a option but didn't wanna show that incase people get hurt or break something lol
I have a better idea! this is to expensive!!!
And whot is a. Idea??
Yea you can blow air by yourself into miner 😂