The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand Let alone disgusting It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period It's not a they it's not a them It's a bloody he
Ashiok not teaming up with the Phyrexians just yet and actually combating them is so cool! We love Ashiok! I agree that this story is super cool, good writing
The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand Let alone disgusting It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period It's not a they it's not a them It's a bloody he
@@angel38618 ay literally all the humanity has been removed from them. All that's left is ambition and a craving to create fear (we don't really know enough to know about any other motives). This is by far the best example of a being that is outside of any sort of gender, and if you can't fathom that then I guess that's your own nightmare LOL Like all they are is just Ashiok, just a nightmare.
I just want to take a moment and appreciate the Gaul that Aishok has to use nightmare magic on Elesh Norn. Even then Norn was still formidable and makes me worried for the multiverse if the phyrexians are able to capture Aishok and complet them. Phyrexians are already walking nightmares to us fleshings but to amplify or harness that fear would be insane. All in all I really loved this story and has me excited for our return to Phyrexia.
Well that’s Ashiok for you were all just little toys for him, just imagine a jokester messing with his friends like above darth helmet in space balls and bellow Adam saddler in… any of his movies
I expected that the human woman that seemed familiar was herself, before being compleated... hinting that at the end of this storyline the Phyrexians (including 'walkers) would get their original personalities and memories back.
@@AetherHub so following this thread , reverting to her imperfect form would be in theory probably her worst nightmare. 🤔 Would be a kinda cool narrative to see happen.
I so hope Ashiok doesn’t get compleated during the next few sets . Mtg has its “evil schemer” villains (Bolas and Norn) , its “self serving henchmen” villains (Tezzeret and Dovin , to a certain extent) and its “force of nature” villains (Eldrazis and Phyrexians as a whole). Ashiok is something different, and their sheer elseness is so refreshing : they are something in between force of nature (almost an embodiment of fear itself) and scheming lunatic that actually enjoys their nature and role . It is always interesting and entertaining to see the more goal-oriented, mastermind kind of villains come to face against something or someone that is completely foreign to their plans, a kind of odd dangerous evil so removed from their own that even they have to start questioning things. Tl,dr : we need more Ashiok
Also…it almost seems like Ashiok has been planning and preparing the conflict between Elspeth and Elesh Norn . They went to the underworld of Theros specifically to recover Elspeth , and now they’ve gone to Norn specifically to remind her of the danger that Elspeth poses to the Machine Orthodoxy . It seems that Ashiok expressly wants this confrontation to happen… but I couldn’t guess why
The thing about Ashiok is precisely that, that they are already doing what they desire, and they answer to no one but themselves in carrying out their whims.
I'm always excited when we get a new story featuring Ashiok. They are easily my favourite planeswalker, even if they are woefully underdeveloped and underutilized. I seem to recall from an older story about Ashiok (one of the only two or three out there) that they see fear as the greatest equalizer and that their main motivation (aside from creating nightmarish masterpieces) is to use fear to humble those individuals who believe themselves to be above other beings, such as the kings and gods of Theros, and now apparently the phyrexian praetors. If nothing else, we can definitely say that Ashiok humbled Elesh Norn a bit here, and she didn't take too kindly to it. Can't wait for future stories involving the Nightmare Weaver.
@@angel38618 No it doesn't and no it isn't. If someone mentions a friend and didn't mention their gender or sex and/or they have a unisex name, you would use they when referring to them. Disgusting? Okay Elesh Norn. Seems like you don't understand the story. Right through your ears. Things aren't they way you like, so you spurn them and call them disgusting. He? Prove it.
@@pluubooruu While Ashiok's gender is not known, Mark Rosewater and others at wotc referred to the planeswalker as "he or her" while revealing that the gender was not yet known. This predates wotc desire to be "woke" and practice revisionist history with their own characters (2013). Does this make saying "They" disgusting? Hardly. Its just easier to say They when you are unsure whether the planeswalker is a he or she. Its not grammatically correct, but many of the things people say are not. Not a big deal. Pure angel... not everything needs to be a political issue. Calm down with the disgusting talk lol. You DO sound like a depraved Phyrexian!
I like seeing how Ashiok's magic is powerful even against beings you wouldn't think it would work. But I think the biggest takeaway I had was when Ashiok got rattled when Elesh Norn dug deep, refocused on her divine purpose and her confidence that Phyrexia is the truth, manifesting her own nightmares. The...determination of Phyrexia is honestly their most terrifying aspect.
Ashiok is one of my favorite designs for a character in MTG. I like how both Elesh Norn and Ashiok have similar designs (eyeless, horned, clawed) but Ashiok's design is darker while Elesh Norn's is brighter. It's a cool contrast. Also, can a nightmare be compleated? 🧐
I don't think so, compleation requires organic flesh. While Ashiok is partially flesh, they're also partially made of nightmare magic. The glistening oil may have unpredictable effects on an entity that is somehow functional despite missing many organs that should be necessary to survive and I think Elesh would rather erase them with a blast of light than risk messing up the "perfect" world she created.
@@astuteanansi4935 That's similar my thought. A nightmare, at least as I imagine it, isn't a tangible object (even though in MtG, a nightmare creature doesn't have any gameplay text that would allude to them not being interactable, unlike text an illusion creature type has). I'd consider it a thought or an idea, and therefore not a physical object. I'm thinking Ashiok is more akin to an illusion, appearing in "physical" form inside your mind. But we may just be overthinking everything. We shall see what is to come next!
@@jeremyobriant7266 I feel like you're overthinking it a bit by equating it to an illusion. I personally think that the black smoke is either just pure raw nightmare magic or coalesced fear energy, making Ashiok a sort of "nightmare elemental".
wow this is SUCH an awesome idea. The premise is so awesome...It's like Ashiok had become so insanely good at creating nightmares for regular beings...the only thing that could entertain him anymore is to terrorize living nightmares, what a baller. BEST MTG VILLAIN EVER!!!
I absolutely love this episode! I love the idea of Ashiok just decided to screw with Elesh Norn and really put one over on her and still manages to learn a thing or two about the phyrexians (new lore for us, yay!) I'm super stoked to see more
I really liked this story when I read it. It shows an interesting side of the Phryexians that I didn’t expect and opens the door for very interesting stories in the future. Also I loved that Elesh Norn’s nightmare was Elspeth. And gross organ vines. Ew
HOW DARE WIZARDS MAKE HER have “FEAR” FOOLS!!! They will pay for this Great story aside from that, it seems that Magic will have its greatest story soon The Compleated multiverse
Man it would be cool to have a supplemental set or even a Secret Liar set with all phyrexianized character art. Sort of like what Marvel did with Zombies.
This was such an interesting story. Morbid, yes, but it really added a new dimension to Elesh Norn and the Phyrexians. An enemy with fear is potentially even more dangerous than one without fear…
As someone who sees themselves on the side of Urabrask, I'm glad that Norn has fears herself despite being such a powerful praetor. Im really excited to see where this goes once Elpspeth and Elish Norn face off.
I always felt like Phyrexians were a combination of the cenobites from Hellraiser mixed with the Borg from Star Trek. Definitely see that in this story. I can just imagine what a nightmare looks like to the Borg Queen.
The ease at which Ashiok toyed her, calling her a canvas. Gave me the goosebumps! Also hints at what plans Ashiok has for Elesh. I thought that the plants with human parts, fortold the beginning of a mechanical hybrid habitat of old Phyrexia on Mirrodin. Hmmm. Something seems off here. The calculations of Elesh are without feeling. Logical. Ashiok just made a Phyrexian ponder real perfection, without knowing it. Phyrexia was once a weak dream, and to overcome a her nightmare, Elesh has to wake up and smell the dead bodies. Feel the mechanism. Not just control it. A perfectionist bloody horror VS a...Chaotic neutral hippy with no face? I'll be at the playground after school for this chick fight! Arcmage.
Elish Norn and Phyrexia are awesome, not to mention Ashiok being one of the best "side villains" I was hoping to see again. What I love is how *restrained* the story is, showing us the villains in both their power and limitation already and not just a seemingly unstoppable threat. TBH the lead in from Neo Kamigawa had me a bit worried they'd follow the same notes with Phyrexia replacing Bolas, but the grounded details in this story were really compelling. Great reading as always, looking forward to the next chapter.
An Ashiok and Elesh Norn meet and greet was great! I can’t wait to see how the phyraxian orthodoxy continues their great work across the multiverse. More plains need the holy oil but this new fear is very interesting development. I hope this build up is better than the war of the spark. More planeswalkers teams up and missions would be cool.
Now we are getting a good story! I love how the story made me, a human, feel like human flesh is disgusting. 😂 Ashiok being able to effect Elesh Norn is an interesting match up. I fully expect Ashiok to be on their own side with no allegiance, but I wonder if they have teamed up with Sheoldred who is (surprise) not dead. 😈Regardless, I wonder if they have the power to divide a conquer the Phyrexians, it’ll be fun to see what happens and if all will really be one. Elspeth is always finding girls who can fix everybody’s problems and getting magical weapons, so I’m pretty sure if Luxior doesn’t help beat back the Phyrexians she will find more until she can arm all the planeswalkers in existence. The Luxior card makes planeswalkers into creatures so I want to know how it functions in the story. Since the Phyrexians have been using the Planar Bridge I suspect Luxior/Halo will be able to destroy it, but who knows. Magical weapons or not, Elspeth is definitely scary to the cold logical predictability the Phyrexians love.
Interesting... So Phyrexian fear is actually more like that which they hate becoming uncontrollable. I am glad they didnt try to say Norn was afraid of big daddy Yawgmoth returning... though, it would have been cool to give him a little shout out...
Wait i thought all new phyrexians knew or atleast understood they were bio mechanical seemless fusions of metal and flesh hence why jin urabrask and vorinclex needed time to recover after plane jumping or i guess in vorinclex's case find some beasts to assimilate, am i missing something?
I hope they don't Compleate Ashiok. Part of what makes her cool is her competence and independence. Ashiok being defeated by Elesh Norn kind of kills that.
That's what you get when you try playing highball and try taking over everything. You will find yourself completely out of your dept in ways you didn't know existed.
Ohhhhhhh Yeah...After Eldrazis come the Machines...The Phyrexians are taking more and more my intrest. They are a species that are worth to deal with. Looking forward how the lore will unfold and what the Mother of Machines will be ploting to do with the Multiverse
Ashiok is a more mysterious being than any other, nightmare manipulation at Ashioks core, has the distinct advantage over any mind or any being possessing a mind, to completely usurp Ashioks target through fear, you would need one who is unbreakably insane to battle Ashioks power. What does Ashiok fear? kittens, rainbows, food colored super glue, or a blank canvass, could literal nothingness or a type of, nirvana if you will, be the fear of nightmares itself? lol Dont mind my mindless musing here, its just that Ashiok is not very well fleshed out as a character or planeswalker, so we dont know alot about what could make Ashiok vulnerable if its possible at all.
The planeswalker's arrogance will be their undoing. The mother of machines will succeed, and all will be compleated. Then we'll find out what The Brother's War is going to look like.
Just hope they keep the theme of White mana Phyrexians being all stichted insideout and just really grotesque looking lol they just had really awesome artwork
Question, was the citadel where these planes walkers were/are. is she talking about when Elspeth was their before or are there other planeswalkers currently on New phrexia besdies , forgot his name, the red planeswalker.
Elesh Nor is a waifu ? Really ? In Mtg i would think that girls like Liliana or Chandra, or Nissa , or Avacyn, or Olivia would be considered Waifus but Elesh nor really ? I just don't see it.
SHHHHHHHHHHh!!!!! Are you insane the horrors of the internet could be listening and I don’t need Norn to be over saturated by anime tropes and tentacles!
I get they are setting up a Mirridon Pure storyline, however it still annoys me that the Mirrion resistance still exists. They made a whole point of noting that the Furnace layer got overrun by Norns forces. There was no place else to run, and trying to set up a Mirrion resistance to use in the eventual New Phyrexia set just feels very ham fisted.
Karn is coming with the Cylix. If the rumors are true it's the same thing that almost wiped out Dominaria the end of the Brother's War and put the plane into a massive global winter for 2500 years and didn't end until a pre-mending Planeswalker stop it. Not going to see Mirrodin Pure, it's gonna be Mirrodin Gone.
Really loved hearing from Elesh Norn again. She’s one of my favorite characters from the whole series. And super super cool story. The idea of Ashiok on a nightmare world just gives me chills with excitement. Always been a horror fan and the idea of returning to New Phyrexia gets me super hyped. Absolutely loved it
The Phyrexians are part flesh, but see it as a weakness to be purged. Yawgmoth managed to wholly transcend his flesh only to just barely be cast down at his moment of triumph. Karn was tainted with the weakness of flesh by his creator and companions, a weakness nearly purged before fleshings stole him away. The praetors approach the transcending of their flesh, but are yet to reach it. Vorinclex, Jin Gitaxias, and Urabrask each survived the destruction of their organic components when traversing between planes, yet had to incorporate new organic parts in order to function. If they can purge themselves of this weakness, they and their armies could invade other planes with impunity. They could bring their glorious gift to all of those hobbled by the cursed flesh and unite the multiverse before the fearful deluded fleshings could muster a misguided opposition. The flesh is disgusting because it is imperfect and stubbornly resists total compleation.
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I’m back in person. Still need to work on the new set a bit. But ELESH NORN IS BACK BABYYYY
She’s soaking up that limelight while her sister is crying in the corner wondering if anyone loves her as much
It makes you think what happened to sheoldred
And in due time, by all things of the machine orthodoxy, all will become compleat
Arena has been causing some backlash
The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand
Let alone disgusting
It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period
It's not a they it's not a them
It's a bloody he
Ashiok not teaming up with the Phyrexians just yet and actually combating them is so cool! We love Ashiok!
I agree that this story is super cool, good writing
Team faceless for the win!!!
The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand
Let alone disgusting
It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period
It's not a they it's not a them
It's a bloody he
@@angel38618 honestly he sounds more like a collective hence the wording.
@@angel38618 ay literally all the humanity has been removed from them. All that's left is ambition and a craving to create fear (we don't really know enough to know about any other motives). This is by far the best example of a being that is outside of any sort of gender, and if you can't fathom that then I guess that's your own nightmare LOL
Like all they are is just Ashiok, just a nightmare.
@@angel38618 I feel like I am poking at a bee's nest but why is that disgusting to you? Do ya feel the same way with Niko Aris?
Phyrexia may be horrific, but the image of a garden of human limbs and parts... You don't need to be a phyrexian to be disgusted.
True. One of the most disturbing descriptions in MTG history
Plants made from limbs and organs? Seen it.
hope this one gets a card in the future
That sounds like a From Software level design in a Souls game
Look up the Sarkic cults. Plants growing human body parts is par for the course
It’s interesting to hear a horror story from a horror’s perspective.
What does the boogeyman fear? A classic question
@@AetherHub John Wick
@@rennac3152 🤣🤣🤣
@@rennac3152 lmao fr fr
Ashiok is my favorite Planeswalker. Seeing them face Elesh Norn with such ease gave me goosebumps
It’s the first time we get a power level for both Ashiok and Elesh Norn. And it didn’t disappoint
Ashiok is 1 dude ?
@@shaunbeckett9475 ye....
Sadly I thought it was a cute shut but turned out it's a sissy
@@angel38618 I'm sorry what ?
@@shaunbeckett9475 exactly what I said when I found out
I just want to take a moment and appreciate the Gaul that Aishok has to use nightmare magic on Elesh Norn. Even then Norn was still formidable and makes me worried for the multiverse if the phyrexians are able to capture Aishok and complet them. Phyrexians are already walking nightmares to us fleshings but to amplify or harness that fear would be insane. All in all I really loved this story and has me excited for our return to Phyrexia.
I was surprised if didn’t happen in this story. But it shows how strong Norn is while still being a mortal being
Well that’s Ashiok for you were all just little toys for him, just imagine a jokester messing with his friends like above darth helmet in space balls and bellow Adam saddler in… any of his movies
*gall
I want compleated Ashiok. Please give me, i will offer my firstborn to Elesh if i can has a compleated Ashiok.
Watch norn have her spark ignite and become a walker
I expected that the human woman that seemed familiar was herself, before being compleated... hinting that at the end of this storyline the Phyrexians (including 'walkers) would get their original personalities and memories back.
That would be cool foreshadowing. Not sure how much to read into it though. I just think it’s what’s Norns worst nightmare could possibly be.
@@AetherHub so following this thread , reverting to her imperfect form would be in theory probably her worst nightmare. 🤔 Would be a kinda cool narrative to see happen.
@@zackwilcox3183 I like this
I so hope Ashiok doesn’t get compleated during the next few sets . Mtg has its “evil schemer” villains (Bolas and Norn) , its “self serving henchmen” villains (Tezzeret and Dovin , to a certain extent) and its “force of nature” villains (Eldrazis and Phyrexians as a whole). Ashiok is something different, and their sheer elseness is so refreshing : they are something in between force of nature (almost an embodiment of fear itself) and scheming lunatic that actually enjoys their nature and role . It is always interesting and entertaining to see the more goal-oriented, mastermind kind of villains come to face against something or someone that is completely foreign to their plans, a kind of odd dangerous evil so removed from their own that even they have to start questioning things.
Tl,dr : we need more Ashiok
Also…it almost seems like Ashiok has been planning and preparing the conflict between Elspeth and Elesh Norn . They went to the underworld of Theros specifically to recover Elspeth , and now they’ve gone to Norn specifically to remind her of the danger that Elspeth poses to the Machine Orthodoxy . It seems that Ashiok expressly wants this confrontation to happen… but I couldn’t guess why
I want completed Ashiok. To each their own I guess.
The thing about Ashiok is precisely that, that they are already doing what they desire, and they answer to no one but themselves in carrying out their whims.
I'm always excited when we get a new story featuring Ashiok. They are easily my favourite planeswalker, even if they are woefully underdeveloped and underutilized. I seem to recall from an older story about Ashiok (one of the only two or three out there) that they see fear as the greatest equalizer and that their main motivation (aside from creating nightmarish masterpieces) is to use fear to humble those individuals who believe themselves to be above other beings, such as the kings and gods of Theros, and now apparently the phyrexian praetors. If nothing else, we can definitely say that Ashiok humbled Elesh Norn a bit here, and she didn't take too kindly to it. Can't wait for future stories involving the Nightmare Weaver.
@@angel38618 No it doesn't and no it isn't. If someone mentions a friend and didn't mention their gender or sex and/or they have a unisex name, you would use they when referring to them.
Disgusting? Okay Elesh Norn. Seems like you don't understand the story. Right through your ears. Things aren't they way you like, so you spurn them and call them disgusting.
He? Prove it.
@@pluubooruu
While Ashiok's gender is not known, Mark Rosewater and others at wotc referred to the planeswalker as "he or her" while revealing that the gender was not yet known. This predates wotc desire to be "woke" and practice revisionist history with their own characters (2013).
Does this make saying "They" disgusting? Hardly. Its just easier to say They when you are unsure whether the planeswalker is a he or she. Its not grammatically correct, but many of the things people say are not. Not a big deal.
Pure angel... not everything needs to be a political issue. Calm down with the disgusting talk lol. You DO sound like a depraved Phyrexian!
I like seeing how Ashiok's magic is powerful even against beings you wouldn't think it would work. But I think the biggest takeaway I had was when Ashiok got rattled when Elesh Norn dug deep, refocused on her divine purpose and her confidence that Phyrexia is the truth, manifesting her own nightmares. The...determination of Phyrexia is honestly their most terrifying aspect.
Ashiok is one of my favorite designs for a character in MTG. I like how both Elesh Norn and Ashiok have similar designs (eyeless, horned, clawed) but Ashiok's design is darker while Elesh Norn's is brighter. It's a cool contrast.
Also, can a nightmare be compleated? 🧐
I don't think so, compleation requires organic flesh. While Ashiok is partially flesh, they're also partially made of nightmare magic. The glistening oil may have unpredictable effects on an entity that is somehow functional despite missing many organs that should be necessary to survive and I think Elesh would rather erase them with a blast of light than risk messing up the "perfect" world she created.
@@astuteanansi4935 That's similar my thought. A nightmare, at least as I imagine it, isn't a tangible object (even though in MtG, a nightmare creature doesn't have any gameplay text that would allude to them not being interactable, unlike text an illusion creature type has). I'd consider it a thought or an idea, and therefore not a physical object. I'm thinking Ashiok is more akin to an illusion, appearing in "physical" form inside your mind.
But we may just be overthinking everything. We shall see what is to come next!
@@jeremyobriant7266 I feel like you're overthinking it a bit by equating it to an illusion. I personally think that the black smoke is either just pure raw nightmare magic or coalesced fear energy, making Ashiok a sort of "nightmare elemental".
@@astuteanansi4935 I think you're probably right. Physical manifestation of dream/nightmare energy.
wow this is SUCH an awesome idea. The premise is so awesome...It's like Ashiok had become so insanely good at creating nightmares for regular beings...the only thing that could entertain him anymore is to terrorize living nightmares, what a baller. BEST MTG VILLAIN EVER!!!
I've been a fan of your channel for YEARS man. I remember getting home from highschool and tuning into Friday night lore!
It’s crazy to think I’ve had an impact on someone for that long. The years have just flown by…
I absolutely love this episode! I love the idea of Ashiok just decided to screw with Elesh Norn and really put one over on her and still manages to learn a thing or two about the phyrexians (new lore for us, yay!) I'm super stoked to see more
Was about time we finaly see whats going on with Elesh Norn, meanwhile Ashiok is just having a good time.
Ashiok trolling everyone across the multiverse.
One of the best planeswalkers imo
I really liked this story when I read it. It shows an interesting side of the Phryexians that I didn’t expect and opens the door for very interesting stories in the future.
Also I loved that Elesh Norn’s nightmare was Elspeth. And gross organ vines. Ew
Yes. I wasn’t expecting this. And I was t expecting it to be sooooo good
There’s a whole scp that’s a organ plant hands for leaves a spine cord trunk mouths at the tip of the roots it’s really something
Well, good thing the thing that can make that a reality is sealed in a moon right now :)
@@DDDHunter pretty sure she and norn wouldn’t see eye to face with the whole draining mana thing
@@DragonspineInfiniteZero Really, that and not the flesh warping?
Before reading the story: Can't wait to see Elish Norn.
After: Ashiok is now my favorite myg character game and lore wise
Finally a story that leaves you starving for more. Please Wizards, I beg you, more like this!
This times 100
HOW DARE WIZARDS MAKE HER have “FEAR” FOOLS!!! They will pay for this
Great story aside from that, it seems that Magic will have its greatest story soon
The Compleated multiverse
Man it would be cool to have a supplemental set or even a Secret Liar set with all phyrexianized character art. Sort of like what Marvel did with Zombies.
Even steel can be cracked, and all sentient beings are afraid...of something
Fear might actually make the Phyrexians even more dangerous in the end…
This was such an interesting story. Morbid, yes, but it really added a new dimension to Elesh Norn and the Phyrexians. An enemy with fear is potentially even more dangerous than one without fear…
Love ashiok and the phyrexians so having them interact in the lore is something I had always hoped for
As someone who sees themselves on the side of Urabrask, I'm glad that Norn has fears herself despite being such a powerful praetor. Im really excited to see where this goes once Elpspeth and Elish Norn face off.
Screw fear, glory to phyrexia
@@jazybomber Yes, very much so
I always felt like Phyrexians were a combination of the cenobites from Hellraiser mixed with the Borg from Star Trek. Definitely see that in this story. I can just imagine what a nightmare looks like to the Borg Queen.
Elesh Norn’s title “Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite” actually takes inspiration from Hellraiser
The ease at which Ashiok toyed her, calling her a canvas. Gave me the goosebumps! Also hints at what plans Ashiok has for Elesh. I thought that the plants with human parts, fortold the beginning of a mechanical hybrid habitat of old Phyrexia on Mirrodin. Hmmm. Something seems off here. The calculations of Elesh are without feeling. Logical. Ashiok just made a Phyrexian ponder real perfection, without knowing it. Phyrexia was once a weak dream, and to overcome a her nightmare, Elesh has to wake up and smell the dead bodies.
Feel the mechanism. Not just control it. A perfectionist bloody horror VS a...Chaotic neutral hippy with no face?
I'll be at the playground after school for this chick fight!
Arcmage.
Thanks for doing what you do. This is my source of mtg lore. The last mtg book/ lore article, etc. I read was Legions.
Man that mana symbol light is sweet, the ring lights reflection on it threw me off for a second
Yeah I’ll work on placement of that damn light. I had to place it weirdly just to not get the reflection in my glasses… lol
Elish Norn and Phyrexia are awesome, not to mention Ashiok being one of the best "side villains" I was hoping to see again. What I love is how *restrained* the story is, showing us the villains in both their power and limitation already and not just a seemingly unstoppable threat. TBH the lead in from Neo Kamigawa had me a bit worried they'd follow the same notes with Phyrexia replacing Bolas, but the grounded details in this story were really compelling. Great reading as always, looking forward to the next chapter.
An Ashiok and Elesh Norn meet and greet was great! I can’t wait to see how the phyraxian orthodoxy continues their great work across the multiverse. More plains need the holy oil but this new fear is very interesting development. I hope this build up is better than the war of the spark. More planeswalkers teams up and missions would be cool.
I hope we get more Tibalt story soon, a compleated Tibalt would be amazing. I want more Phyrexian walkers
1/1 devil tokens with infect
@@jazybomber wizards: “Write that down! Write that down!”
Great video as always this story makes me love Ashiok so much more.
Yo I am FREAKING out! This was THRILLING!!!! I've been WAITING for Ahiok's return!
I was waiting for someone to make a video about this! Thanks Seiben!
Now we are getting a good story! I love how the story made me, a human, feel like human flesh is disgusting. 😂 Ashiok being able to effect Elesh Norn is an interesting match up. I fully expect Ashiok to be on their own side with no allegiance, but I wonder if they have teamed up with Sheoldred who is (surprise) not dead. 😈Regardless, I wonder if they have the power to divide a conquer the Phyrexians, it’ll be fun to see what happens and if all will really be one.
Elspeth is always finding girls who can fix everybody’s problems and getting magical weapons, so I’m pretty sure if Luxior doesn’t help beat back the Phyrexians she will find more until she can arm all the planeswalkers in existence. The Luxior card makes planeswalkers into creatures so I want to know how it functions in the story. Since the Phyrexians have been using the Planar Bridge I suspect Luxior/Halo will be able to destroy it, but who knows. Magical weapons or not, Elspeth is definitely scary to the cold logical predictability the Phyrexians love.
Sheoldred is dead by now
i love the content and before mtg purple and the tcgplayer guy i always have seen your lore videos. much love.!
Elesh Norn the Borg Queen of MTG , great video
Thank you and of course… praise her
Stoked to watch this!
Enjoy 😉
Ashiok just wants to troll people. Even if they are machine people.
I love all the Phyrexian lore and I'm happy to get this story
PHYREXIAN GARGANTUA's flavor text says: "Other Phyrexians have nightmares about the gargantua." So, yes, they can have nightmares loll
Interesting... So Phyrexian fear is actually more like that which they hate becoming uncontrollable. I am glad they didnt try to say Norn was afraid of big daddy Yawgmoth returning... though, it would have been cool to give him a little shout out...
This story just shows the difference in power between planeswalker and plane specific threats.
looking well rested after having a new baby friend. hope the Mrs. is recovering well and the baby is healthy :) keep up the amazing work
Thanks, as always, for the lore.
Wait i thought all new phyrexians knew or atleast understood they were bio mechanical seemless fusions of metal and flesh hence why jin urabrask and vorinclex needed time to recover after plane jumping or i guess in vorinclex's case find some beasts to assimilate, am i missing something?
Yes, this was Norn's Nightmare. In her perfect world, there would be no flesh.
Still elesh norn managed it like a cold machine. Loved it
Don't like the content? I love it dude! Keep it up! I had already read the article and still tuned in for your reading.
Finally she's back. Been waiting for her since 2011.. over a decade of waiting.. FINALLY THE MOTHER OF MACHINES HAS RETURNED
I hope they don't Compleate Ashiok. Part of what makes her cool is her competence and independence. Ashiok being defeated by Elesh Norn kind of kills that.
what could be more interesting to ashiok a robotic flesh horror being afraid
Wild Theory Time: Elspeth is related to the Human Elesh Norn once was.
That would be CRAZY and AMAZING
That's what you get when you try playing highball and try taking over everything. You will find yourself completely out of your dept in ways you didn't know existed.
As a fan of Elspeth I'm enjoying how things are building up.
Garden of Flesh, Yeah I see you there, Hellraiser and your Puzzle of Flesh. Joke aside, I can't wait to see her return.
Ohhhhhhh Yeah...After Eldrazis come the Machines...The Phyrexians are taking more and more my intrest. They are a species that are worth to deal with. Looking forward how the lore will unfold and what the Mother of Machines will be ploting to do with the Multiverse
ashiok, compleat nightmare when?
Soon my friend. Soon
Elesh norn reminds me of hellraiser movies of her being a cenobite creature
I agree that this story was exceptional!!
very good keep it up was wondering if you or someone did anything on marit lage
Ashiok is a more mysterious being than any other, nightmare manipulation at Ashioks core, has the distinct advantage over any mind or any being possessing a mind, to completely usurp Ashioks target through fear, you would need one who is unbreakably insane to battle Ashioks power. What does Ashiok fear? kittens, rainbows, food colored super glue, or a blank canvass, could literal nothingness or a type of, nirvana if you will, be the fear of nightmares itself? lol Dont mind my mindless musing here, its just that Ashiok is not very well fleshed out as a character or planeswalker, so we dont know alot about what could make Ashiok vulnerable if its possible at all.
love this new story! elspeth v norn here we go
I’m glad they made this fight more personal
The planeswalker's arrogance will be their undoing. The mother of machines will succeed, and all will be compleated.
Then we'll find out what The Brother's War is going to look like.
Read the story the other day. Such a good read to see what a horrible abomination truly fears 🤔
Elesh norn grand coenobite, is my second favourite card I own, just under Godzilla doom inevitable
Just hope they keep the theme of White mana Phyrexians being all stichted insideout and just really grotesque looking lol they just had really awesome artwork
Must not let her know I'm working for Urabrask.
epic voicing aether hub, thanks for the story
“There not just words, Mom. It’s a lifestyle! ‘Cause I got your picture I’m coming with you”
Oh my, such a cool take good sir.
Question, was the citadel where these planes walkers were/are. is she talking about when Elspeth was their before or are there other planeswalkers currently on New phrexia besdies , forgot his name, the red planeswalker.
Machine Waifu is not smth I thought Id hear. But man it was worth it!!
Letting Elesh Norn experience fear only makes her more dangerous.
Elesh Nor is a waifu ? Really ? In Mtg i would think that girls like Liliana or Chandra, or Nissa , or Avacyn, or Olivia would be considered Waifus but Elesh nor really ? I just don't see it.
Hey… don’t yuck my yum.
@@AetherHub Lmaof
Star knight has obviously not been compleated yet...
@@zacksullivan7426 No i haven't and don't plan on being completed lol. DOWN WITH THE PHYREXIANS !!
Obviously someone needs their eyes phyrexianized. Ofcourse Elesh is the perfect mtg waifu.
Welp time to see more Ashiok in March of the Machines....
Honestly, I’d be scared if she was in Kamigawa Neon Dynasty. They lose parts so she would have had to rebuild using anime tropes
SHHHHHHHHHHh!!!!! Are you insane the horrors of the internet could be listening and I don’t need Norn to be over saturated by anime tropes and tentacles!
The creatures of Body horror are scared by...Body Horror? Interesting
3 of the most interesting characters in modern mtg lore, how cool..
She fears being alone with her cats for eons....
predicting the final preator card: Nron, The worried
"Blessed Mother... Save us."
Thanks for this.
Dope thumbnail
This was a awesome story.
This is some SCP level story telling.
I can’t wait for the new Norn
This was wild!
Good to see the Mother of maschines again
I get they are setting up a Mirridon Pure storyline, however it still annoys me that the Mirrion resistance still exists. They made a whole point of noting that the Furnace layer got overrun by Norns forces. There was no place else to run, and trying to set up a Mirrion resistance to use in the eventual New Phyrexia set just feels very ham fisted.
I was certain that the razor fields held off the invasion. I will have to check lore again
Karn is coming with the Cylix. If the rumors are true it's the same thing that almost wiped out Dominaria the end of the Brother's War and put the plane into a massive global winter for 2500 years and didn't end until a pre-mending Planeswalker stop it.
Not going to see Mirrodin Pure, it's gonna be Mirrodin Gone.
What Elesh Norn Fear: Glasses. She doesn't understand them or their real purpose.
A fear that Ashiok understands very well.
As much as people hate it I want infect to come back
So awesome. Definitely a story i like
All will be one. Worship the father of machines and our mechanical overlords.
Where's our new elesh norn card is there any news on if we're going to get one.
Will be re-listening to this whilst I compleat some Slaaneshi daemons into the Machine Orthodoxy.
Whenever those miniatures come in on order.
Loved the vid
Really loved hearing from Elesh Norn again. She’s one of my favorite characters from the whole series.
And super super cool story. The idea of Ashiok on a nightmare world just gives me chills with excitement.
Always been a horror fan and the idea of returning to New Phyrexia gets me super hyped. Absolutely loved it
This felt weird to me, isnt phyrexians a combo of flesh and machine to become perfection? I really dont agree with a phyrexian going "oh yuck, meat"
The Phyrexians are part flesh, but see it as a weakness to be purged. Yawgmoth managed to wholly transcend his flesh only to just barely be cast down at his moment of triumph. Karn was tainted with the weakness of flesh by his creator and companions, a weakness nearly purged before fleshings stole him away. The praetors approach the transcending of their flesh, but are yet to reach it.
Vorinclex, Jin Gitaxias, and Urabrask each survived the destruction of their organic components when traversing between planes, yet had to incorporate new organic parts in order to function. If they can purge themselves of this weakness, they and their armies could invade other planes with impunity. They could bring their glorious gift to all of those hobbled by the cursed flesh and unite the multiverse before the fearful deluded fleshings could muster a misguided opposition.
The flesh is disgusting because it is imperfect and stubbornly resists total compleation.
I wish this fight was Animated
Where did the music come from?
That story was 🔥🔥🔥