Ahnald, you're not used to having the Vulture on Reinforcements instead of the starting lineup. Your Vulture that is "bugged" is actually a summon, so it only assists 70% of the time. Usually the player Vulture is out at the start, which is why I think you're getting confused.
@@AhnaldT101 I noticed that your Geo Spy doesn’t have his ship unique maxed out. Maxing it out will grant your geos up to 30% extra offense which will help make the counter smoother. Sun Fac can grant up to 30% crit avoidance for the geos which can help with survivability. Geo soldier can grant up to 30% accuracy to help deal with the dodges
@@miccool9ice363 imagine Sun Fac is dead. Spy gets attacked and goes under stealth. If you have the maxed out spy unique, Soldier with go under stealth too and then you can’t get the big hit from spy if the enemy goes for spy. But I do see your point about the offensez
Wow what a fun and interesting counter available to most late-ish game players I sure hope it doesn't get called an unintentional interaction within 24 hours of this video being uploaded!
prof will 100% get “buffed”… calling it now. this is CG’s brand new shiny toy, they will not let it be countered this easily otherwise the whales will riot
CGs ext update: we have identified an unintended interaction between the malevolence and profundity. We will watch closely over the next day before nerfing the hell out of the malevolence so that it seems like we were actually concerned
CG fixing things.... If there are any Geonosian ships at the start of the battle, all enemy ships receive Ability Block for 10 turns, which can't be dispelled or prevented. 😂
Rebels: “Admiral We Have the Plans!” Ahnald: “I Have You Now” (chases them with the biggest and deadliest Star Destroyer in the galaxy) Kyber Club Stream: Bruh, he left us hanging behind…..
Executor user here from the future, having a hard time recently with Profundity/Dash onslaught, to the point where i put out this team (reluctantly, a sub-500k fleet) and tore through them like shit through a goose. Good times, thanks Ahnald, thanks GG, Geos ^^
@@osets2117 I dont know, if you put them on defense and opponent keep them for offense (After we found idea setup for their mirrors) he will easy clear you with high banners. While you have to clear his Nego/Male with yours Nego/Male which will not be high banners.
THERE HAS BEEN AN UNINTENDED INTERACTION WHERE PROFUNFITY LOST. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU ARE USING A PROFUNDITY YOURSELF OR THE EXECUTOR. WE SHALL FIX IT ASAP.
CG incoming! Profundity kit update -> Separatist ships are unable to attack out of turn. Separatist Capital Ships can not reduce their ultimate cooldown. TIE Bomber kit updated, Burning only applies if capital ship is Empire.
I went in with my malevolence and on the vulture droids summoned by the capital ship on the info above the abilities it says only a 70% chance to assist on the reinforcement vulture it is 100%
@@juansebastian9259 Malevolence summon vulture droid with LVL1 ability of Swarming Terror. That is reason why they have only 70% chance to assist. I believe in past they used to have 100% chance which was bug. And CG didnt care as long as Nego/Mal were meta, now when they are no longer meta, they fixed it. Same as they fixed JKA ship with the Unending Loyalty bug.
Thats a given, since Malevolence is the only ship that can abuse AI stupidity with summons. If they reprogrammed ship AI, to ignore summons, it would be less effective. :)
This is kinda reminiscent of when GAS first came out. An offensive powerhouse but not impossible to beat on D. Mirror matches aren’t a headache either which is nice
Great video Ahnald, love the channel!! It is a little unrelated but when I saw you give a FTP account update I saw you said that farming Emperors shuttle was important. I was wondering why cause I don’t think he is needed for anything, is it just a good ship? I don’t see it too often during your streams. Thank you!
Not all my farms are necessarily meant to chase after some legendary. In this situation. Emperor Shuttle is amazing for my Empire fleet! Almost critical for a good alternative fleet in my roster.
@@AhnaldT101 also GA, I think a great video idea would be a counters one. It can have different brackets of GP so it can have counters for all players but the video can focus on a team and the best teams to take that one down, could be in a style like your zeta/team ranking videos. It could help a lot of players maximize their teams to get more wins.
It should be noted that this is Malevolence with Relic 8 GG and Relic 8 Geo pilots. While a great counter to have exist, I'm pretty sure that's very much a late-game counter (and not exactly a certain one), which means CG are less likely to nerf the hell out of it.
Man I called it way back when Negotiator and Malevolence were at the top. People said Negotiator was better and I always disagreed. Good to see more accessible counters are available
what are the minimum gear levels/relic levels required to full this off? Do you require a 7 star malevolence? will G12 geos work? thanks to anyone who answers :)
Does this work with gear 12/low relic geos? I know you've got a pretty juiced up geo team and it looks like spy is just barely avoiding death each time.
The vulture's assist is about 70% chance IIRR, for the free vultures. The problem with that being, CG can stealth nerf that at will, unless people seriously collect statistics. And perception bias or not, I'm pretty sure they DID nerf that a while back.
The video had Relic 3 Geo Soldier, and R8 Spy/Sun Fac. Unfortunately, I cannot roll back relics and gear to find a minimum. On the upside, aside from making their ships better Geos are still a decent team for Grand Arena and TW so not a complete waste if you decide to upgrade them more.
@@AhnaldT101 Thing is, I’m almost able to start the GAS event, and I don’t want to have something else to do while I relic my clones in preparation. I guess I could make it my post-GAS passion project. Is R8 completely necessary, or can it be done with R7, if you’d have to guess.
"Hopefully we get alot of assists." lol Well this strategy won't work for me. My toons absolutely refuse to do things like that. You should see my executor mirror matches. My Cad Bane double shots 5% of the time. Evil Cad Bane double shots 90% of the time. If evil razor crest doesn't land mark, my razor crest will not land mark. lol Enemy dodges 60% of the time. My team doesn't realize dodge exits. lol
Not sure if you read all your comments, but imo it would be a mistake to put both Exec and Profundity on Def. Your opponent only needs to keep one or the other plus FO and it's nearly a guaranteed full clear for good banners. In fact, I think the best GAC Def for fleets will be one of the two (pdity/exec) probably pdity, Nego, and Thrawn/Empire (I prefer Thrawn). I say that because if they put both on defense, you can use the other and clear profundity and FO to clear exec and something else to clear the last fleet. I think the important thing actually is to get another rebel fleet up now that pdity took MF out. Not sure if RC can really do that, but if you can use Rebels with RC to kill Nego, Seps, FO, or Raddus we'd be back to where we are were before pdity came out. Example you mentioned in your stream you would use most likely use PDity, Exec, Nego on def. Which I think many people will as well. Knowing that, the counter to take on Offense would be Exec, FO, and Seps + 1 clean up. Use Exec on Pdity, FO on Exec, and Seps on Nego (unless we can find a rebel fleet...which I doubt). Those three will and should be a higher banner count than your seps counter to Pdity here, FO counter to Exec, and honestly the bigger problem you have. What are you taking against Thrawn? A mirror? You don't have Tie Bomber, no real rebel fleet, Nego is on D. So yeah, kind of up a creek. You could take both GL ships and Nego on Offense and put banner strippers on D too if you were going the efficiency route. Generally speaking, i'm glad we have another cap ship, but we seriously need more ships other than a cap ship. Again, just my opinion.
As of now either opinion is speculation on what people will do but we will find out next Grand Arena! I definitely expect people by me to place both and see what happens for the first few Grand Arenas.
@@AhnaldT101 Let them, but place pdity on D, not exec. Sounds strange I know, but placing both on D will lead to greater instances of not being able to full clear, and if you do, it will be for less banners (even if you one shot them) than you will get for keeping exec and using Nego and Emp on Def. I fully expect people in upper K2 and lower K1 (where I am) if they have it to place them both against me as I don't have it yet. R9 man...its killing me!
This still seems bad for GAC. If tie bomber is needed, then that leaves the chimaera a lot weaker. Not to mention that the malevolence is the best non ship "GL" for taking on the executor
Chimaera is still great on offense without TIE Bomber. Also, Finalizer is far better than Malevolence vs Executor. I don’t see anyone using Malevolence over Finalizer anymore unless you just don’t have Finalizer.
@@AhnaldT101 I cant figure out the finalizer. But I'm also f2p and can't afford to R7/8/9 everyone for their fleets Maybe I just need to practice the finalizer more
Honestly not sure how I feel about this given that the requirements for ProFun are so high. I don't mind having counters at all, but this is a really low cost, low requirement response to what was supposed to be the new top dog. Hum...
Ahnald, you're not used to having the Vulture on Reinforcements instead of the starting lineup. Your Vulture that is "bugged" is actually a summon, so it only assists 70% of the time. Usually the player Vulture is out at the start, which is why I think you're getting confused.
You must have the updated firmware for your Tactical Scanners!
@@AhnaldT101 might need to to get the new Tactical Scanner that just came out.
@@AhnaldT101 you may have to whale harder Ahnald
@@AhnaldT101
I noticed that your Geo Spy doesn’t have his ship unique maxed out. Maxing it out will grant your geos up to 30% extra offense which will help make the counter smoother. Sun Fac can grant up to 30% crit avoidance for the geos which can help with survivability. Geo soldier can grant up to 30% accuracy to help deal with the dodges
@@miccool9ice363 imagine Sun Fac is dead. Spy gets attacked and goes under stealth. If you have the maxed out spy unique, Soldier with go under stealth too and then you can’t get the big hit from spy if the enemy goes for spy. But I do see your point about the offensez
CG: Datacrons are meant to help young rosters
Kyber Club: Tell that to Kanjiklub
Wow what a fun and interesting counter available to most late-ish game players I sure hope it doesn't get called an unintentional interaction within 24 hours of this video being uploaded!
prof will 100% get “buffed”… calling it now. this is CG’s brand new shiny toy, they will not let it be countered this easily otherwise the whales will riot
@@xanderkai6353 yeah, happened with Executor too, but still, Executor will still be the best capital ship.
CGs ext update: we have identified an unintended interaction between the malevolence and profundity. We will watch closely over the next day before nerfing the hell out of the malevolence so that it seems like we were actually concerned
CG fixing things....
If there are any Geonosian ships at the start of the battle, all enemy ships receive Ability Block for 10 turns, which can't be dispelled or prevented. 😂
Rebels: “Admiral We Have the Plans!”
Ahnald: “I Have You Now” (chases them with the biggest and deadliest Star Destroyer in the galaxy)
Kyber Club Stream: Bruh, he left us hanging behind…..
"QUICK! Eject the top tier subs in an escape pod, that ship is carrying the TH-cam algorithm!"
Executor user here from the future, having a hard time recently with Profundity/Dash onslaught, to the point where i put out this team (reluctantly, a sub-500k fleet) and tore through them like shit through a goose. Good times, thanks Ahnald, thanks GG, Geos ^^
CG: You can put the Executor on defense and Profundity on offense
All players: *All in defense*
Exactly smart players put their best stuff on defense when it comes to ships
@@osets2117 I dont know, if you put them on defense and opponent keep them for offense (After we found idea setup for their mirrors) he will easy clear you with high banners. While you have to clear his Nego/Male with yours Nego/Male which will not be high banners.
And queue game update. Thanks Ahnald
Profundity not working as intended
@@jackb1272 💯
THERE HAS BEEN AN UNINTENDED INTERACTION WHERE PROFUNFITY LOST. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN UNLESS YOU ARE USING A PROFUNDITY YOURSELF OR THE EXECUTOR. WE SHALL FIX IT ASAP.
CG incoming!
Profundity kit update -> Separatist ships are unable to attack out of turn. Separatist Capital Ships can not reduce their ultimate cooldown.
TIE Bomber kit updated, Burning only applies if capital ship is Empire.
The summoned vulture droids only have a 70% chance to assist if you look at there abilities in a match
Exactly. The problem with the old bug was they were only assisting like 20 or 30% of the time not the 70
Was that 70% chance to assist a nerf? Cause I think back in the day it was a 100% chance.
I went in with my malevolence and on the vulture droids summoned by the capital ship on the info above the abilities it says only a 70% chance to assist on the reinforcement vulture it is 100%
@@juansebastian9259 Malevolence summon vulture droid with LVL1 ability of Swarming Terror. That is reason why they have only 70% chance to assist. I believe in past they used to have 100% chance which was bug. And CG didnt care as long as Nego/Mal were meta, now when they are no longer meta, they fixed it. Same as they fixed JKA ship with the Unending Loyalty bug.
6:50 Geo Spy dodging for his LIFE
Now if only they could do that for me all the time…
@@AhnaldT101 Slip them some jawa juice under the able, they might do so
How to be the Profundity:
1. Have Malevolence
2. Pew Pew
3. Win
the assists from summoned vulture droids are not guaranteed. They have 70% chance to assist
volture droid assists are not guaranteed. Except the og vulture droid, all summoned vulture droids have 70% chance to assist.
Man you really do mean 25/8. Great vid.
Have a good weekend Kyber Club!
70% of the way to getting Malevolence, more pleased than I already was with my choice.
It seems like Malevolance is the default option to find counters for new ships
Thats a given, since Malevolence is the only ship that can abuse AI stupidity with summons. If they reprogrammed ship AI, to ignore summons, it would be less effective. :)
@@duggix2362 why would you give CG ideas
@@duggix2362 where that might solve that problem, it'll also affect Malevolence's performance against other capital ships if placed on defense,
Dang, Its great to be in the empire today! Always count on the Grand admiral to help F2P keep up with off-meta counters! LLTE!
The Geonosians want their plans back.
Poggle: "We stand amidst my achievement."
I’m fine with this. This way the 4 major capital ships all counter each other in a circle.
That's what I love about this channel he always finds ways to beat the new content asap
I look forward to Grievous calling a lot of people FOOLS!
Even 2 years later, this video is still valid. I just used the geo lineup to wipe out a Profundity exactly as described
looks like the admiral went 8bit in the intro.
And I am here for it.
This is kinda reminiscent of when GAS first came out. An offensive powerhouse but not impossible to beat on D. Mirror matches aren’t a headache either which is nice
Great video Ahnald, love the channel!! It is a little unrelated but when I saw you give a FTP account update I saw you said that farming Emperors shuttle was important. I was wondering why cause I don’t think he is needed for anything, is it just a good ship? I don’t see it too often during your streams. Thank you!
Not all my farms are necessarily meant to chase after some legendary. In this situation. Emperor Shuttle is amazing for my Empire fleet! Almost critical for a good alternative fleet in my roster.
@@AhnaldT101 thank you for the reply, I appreciate the advice GA!
It’s also necessary to complete the platoons in Geo TB!
@@AhnaldT101 also GA, I think a great video idea would be a counters one. It can have different brackets of GP so it can have counters for all players but the video can focus on a team and the best teams to take that one down, could be in a style like your zeta/team ranking videos. It could help a lot of players maximize their teams to get more wins.
Malevolence summon vulture droid with LVL1 ability of Swarming Terror. So they have only 70% chance to assist.
I'm still waiting for Admiral Trench & Nihilus' capital ship.
Admiral Trench, YEEEEESSSSS
We need Nihilus' more than another separatist fleet, we already have some unused sith ships that could get a kit touchup
Always trailblazing First the executor counter and now this!
Great info Grand Ahnald! This is encouraging as a F2P. It's better than 0 counter chance.
It should be noted that this is Malevolence with Relic 8 GG and Relic 8 Geo pilots. While a great counter to have exist, I'm pretty sure that's very much a late-game counter (and not exactly a certain one), which means CG are less likely to nerf the hell out of it.
Hey Ahnald, good tip for if an omicron will effect the ship, level 8 abilities will whereas level 9 abilities don't.
Man I called it way back when Negotiator and Malevolence were at the top. People said Negotiator was better and I always disagreed. Good to see more accessible counters are available
When are we going to get more regular ships instead of capital ones?
What is it with Malevolence countering the GL Capital Ships, but only with the help of one TIE Fighter or another
I have to admit, i was hoping for an intro where you don't fall for the corvette chase, GA, yet not disappointed
What are the required relics for this? What relics are you using? I assume your using relic 8 gg, and relic 7 geos...
I foresee them putting in some kind of burning immunity now or making the damage immunity from ult non dispelable
Malevolence has been desent against the new ship meta
what are the minimum gear levels/relic levels required to full this off? Do you require a 7 star malevolence? will G12 geos work? thanks to anyone who answers :)
SHEEP speed LOL. Love it GA!
Could definitely use a video on your recommendation for cleanup...
Does this work with gear 12/low relic geos? I know you've got a pretty juiced up geo team and it looks like spy is just barely avoiding death each time.
The grand admiral with day 1 counters!!!
I like how he always gets Profundity and Raddus mixed up😂
The vulture's assist is about 70% chance IIRR, for the free vultures. The problem with that being, CG can stealth nerf that at will, unless people seriously collect statistics. And perception bias or not, I'm pretty sure they DID nerf that a while back.
I knew I was safe.
Hello there.
Great video. I love the off Meta counters
Yaaay beskar crocs are back ! ^_^
Goddammit Malevolence… why is it able to beat every fleet in the game? 😂
ProFunTitty buffed in 3, 2, 1 ...
I literally can't believe how much rng was on your side on second attack 😳 you know that would never happen in gac right 😂
is this possible without TIE Bomber?
because I would say he is kinda needed for the Empire. so it hurts to take this ship away
It's always a good day in the empire when you can take the whales out
New update: malevolence can no longer be used against profundity
Yes, the Vulture assists are still bugged; have been for a long time now.
What are the “minimum” relics for this to work? As a proud Malevolence owner, I really don’t want to have to highly relic my Geo pilots
The video had Relic 3 Geo Soldier, and R8 Spy/Sun Fac. Unfortunately, I cannot roll back relics and gear to find a minimum. On the upside, aside from making their ships better Geos are still a decent team for Grand Arena and TW so not a complete waste if you decide to upgrade them more.
@@AhnaldT101 Thing is, I’m almost able to start the GAS event, and I don’t want to have something else to do while I relic my clones in preparation. I guess I could make it my post-GAS passion project. Is R8 completely necessary, or can it be done with R7, if you’d have to guess.
"Hopefully we get alot of assists."
lol Well this strategy won't work for me. My toons absolutely refuse to do things like that. You should see my executor mirror matches. My Cad Bane double shots 5% of the time. Evil Cad Bane double shots 90% of the time. If evil razor crest doesn't land mark, my razor crest will not land mark. lol
Enemy dodges 60% of the time. My team doesn't realize dodge exits. lol
If anything, CG will probably change the wording on the Vulture Droids to make the bug seem like it was on purpose
Not bugged, the summoned ones only assist 70%
I need an Omicron that increases my sheep speed. Those lazy lambs never go to their pen!
Rock Paper Scissots. That's actually how things SHOULD be, but they will peobably 'fix' it nonetheless.
Buff incoming. And Ship Satacrons incoming.
Good that i have the malevolence....
Not sure if you read all your comments, but imo it would be a mistake to put both Exec and Profundity on Def. Your opponent only needs to keep one or the other plus FO and it's nearly a guaranteed full clear for good banners. In fact, I think the best GAC Def for fleets will be one of the two (pdity/exec) probably pdity, Nego, and Thrawn/Empire (I prefer Thrawn). I say that because if they put both on defense, you can use the other and clear profundity and FO to clear exec and something else to clear the last fleet. I think the important thing actually is to get another rebel fleet up now that pdity took MF out. Not sure if RC can really do that, but if you can use Rebels with RC to kill Nego, Seps, FO, or Raddus we'd be back to where we are were before pdity came out.
Example you mentioned in your stream you would use most likely use PDity, Exec, Nego on def. Which I think many people will as well. Knowing that, the counter to take on Offense would be Exec, FO, and Seps + 1 clean up. Use Exec on Pdity, FO on Exec, and Seps on Nego (unless we can find a rebel fleet...which I doubt). Those three will and should be a higher banner count than your seps counter to Pdity here, FO counter to Exec, and honestly the bigger problem you have. What are you taking against Thrawn? A mirror? You don't have Tie Bomber, no real rebel fleet, Nego is on D. So yeah, kind of up a creek. You could take both GL ships and Nego on Offense and put banner strippers on D too if you were going the efficiency route.
Generally speaking, i'm glad we have another cap ship, but we seriously need more ships other than a cap ship. Again, just my opinion.
As of now either opinion is speculation on what people will do but we will find out next Grand Arena! I definitely expect people by me to place both and see what happens for the first few Grand Arenas.
@@AhnaldT101 Let them, but place pdity on D, not exec. Sounds strange I know, but placing both on D will lead to greater instances of not being able to full clear, and if you do, it will be for less banners (even if you one shot them) than you will get for keeping exec and using Nego and Emp on Def. I fully expect people in upper K2 and lower K1 (where I am) if they have it to place them both against me as I don't have it yet. R9 man...its killing me!
This still seems bad for GAC.
If tie bomber is needed, then that leaves the chimaera a lot weaker.
Not to mention that the malevolence is the best non ship "GL" for taking on the executor
Chimaera is still great on offense without TIE Bomber. Also, Finalizer is far better than Malevolence vs Executor. I don’t see anyone using Malevolence over Finalizer anymore unless you just don’t have Finalizer.
@@AhnaldT101
I cant figure out the finalizer.
But I'm also f2p and can't afford to R7/8/9 everyone for their fleets
Maybe I just need to practice the finalizer more
Incoming malevolence nerf then
You need good relic geo to make this a good counter
Well, it was a fun counter while it lasted. No doubt CG will buff their new shiny to counter this
well thanks ahnald for getting male nerfed 😂
I definitely see the assists on defense. Been a pain in my @zz. I'd love if they didn't.
Wow, i thought that having the Profundity was a free win since after the enemy cs follows the Tantive, the other ships can't kill anyone
I have The same problem with the assist they need to fix it
Profundity Buff incoming
over a week to get the profundity buffed before gac starts again this will definitely be fixed
Ugh oh, week 1 Profundity buff incoming? Really is the sister ship to the Executor
Hopefully the Prof gets buffed!
no
Better that malevolence get nerf
Also needs high relics big time. Geo’s are all R3 and they got wiped out in the opening salvo. Shrug 🤷🏻♂️
Relics on bugs?
Relic 3 Geo solider, Relic 8 Spy/Sun Fac. Definitely room for less relics than what I had.
Vulture assist has been nerfed with Executor release to a % value. This is a huge nerf not everyone is aware off.
Already?
dude did you spray paint your crocs silver
Excuse me, those crocs are made with the finest Beskar.
I guess it’s official, Malevolence is better than Negotiator.
Honestly not sure how I feel about this given that the requirements for ProFun are so high. I don't mind having counters at all, but this is a really low cost, low requirement response to what was supposed to be the new top dog. Hum...
Perfect Opportunity to say
*blow that piece of junk out of the sky* 😂
"Wrecks"😆
GG was a 1 shot counter to Executor until they rework it. So Profundity will get an AI rework at the very least.
0:14 Blow that piece of junk OUT OF THE SKY
Speaking too soon. They’re gonna buff the kit now
Incoming nerf to Malevolence or buff to Profundity in 3...2...1
this is not that helpful since I already use malevolence to counter executor. was hoping for different capital ship counter
first
edit: don’t know why i posted that.. i never post stupid comments like that.
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE
Bro its executor or bust
Buff incoming...
WOOO SHEEP SPEED🎉🤣
turn on subtitles in other languages. please
Great now cg is gonna buff it into the skies and still nerf grevious
This is cool but a rework is coming 100%
The vultures not assisting correctly is complete horseshit that should have been fixed ages ago.
Is there a ship that grievous can't counter? Lmao