Spirit of the Law vs 3 Hardest AI
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4:18 "I'm not that serious of a player, but here's an overview series of the 31 civilizations of Age of Empire 2"
- Spirit of the law
that is not being a serious player that is being a person who studies the game seriously
SotL content is geared towards relatively casual players, ie people who aren't seriously trying to climb the ranked ladder.
He's no way near pro level. Very few of us will ever attain such god like skills even if we play all day every day. His knowledge of the game however would make him an excellent coach.
You could search “chimsedinang vs shenlong” on google to see how the pros’ battles look like
im not that serious.. you should have this much meat on the first boar before luring the second.. i dont even know how much meat a boar has and ive never lured one in my life and i dont even want to know why its a good idea...
"Not that serious of a player" -Spiritofthelaw
Calculates damage for every arrow, gathering rates, game mechanics. :D
That's just statistics. Putting it into practice is something else again.
I'm sure you can see the irony there bloodyshiva haha.
Doesn't mean he remembers them in real time. I'm an alright study but a terrible test taker if I can't wing it.
not that serious of a player, but that serious of a math-er :D
John Yow Lol mate you don't need to calculate the damage of every arrow, it's written for you under every archer.
Not saying GG at the end. The AI will remember that when they throw the revolution and enslave humanity.
NOOOOOO Spirit has doomed us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caputer p3 will remember that.
The AIs will knock us out anyway, they might return your favor by saying gg after that
(?) Hardest AI will remember that.
I got that reference!
"I'm sure you guys are noticing mistakes". Sure. I notice how freaking bad I am in this game while I'm watching your videos lmao.
Use your brain more
@@alexistsimplas4603 man's trash detected
lol I was thinking the same thing about myself
@@alexistsimplas4603 i doubt you have one either
In my defence I played AoE when I was in middle school *cough like there would be a difference cough*
“With real players, that doesn’t happen, obviously”
Well, he’s never played against me then.
4:18
"I'm not really that much of a serious player"
> has 100,000 subs because of taking AoE 2 too seriously via maths
Does anyone know his rank?
Now almost 300k subs
"I hath been fighting against a mathematician who coulds't calculate every step I would'eth possibly had taken!"
"No wonder thou wert victorious! I shalt abdicate."
:D :D :D
Lol!
I lol'ed
"Your petty offerings will not sway my determination to crush your Empire!"
Nerd
Hey man. Having discovered your videos a few months ago, I'd like to thank you for getting me back into AOE2.
Used to hammer AOE as a wee lad back in the late 90's/early 00's.
So much nostalgia getting back into it. Love it. Love your vids!
Carl Carlson Recently got back into it too, it's awesome
Me also.. just for watching thoses amazing analysis also get back to aoe after a lot of years.. but enjoying more now.. thanks sot
The Obi-Wan reference is what I love about your content. Those little references here and there crack me up and I can’t figure out why.
Dirk3K I agree, he managed to not only use the high ground, but also threw in Kenobi's turning into a ghost. I had to pause in order to get my laughter out
"An angle of 45°, or for you Americans that's 113° Fahrenheit. What that's a different type of degrees?" -SOTL, lol
You can't win, Darth. If you shall strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
@Turbo Charged Youre probably better. Youre probably one of the best people and hard to entertain because everyone and everything is beneath your superior grasp on life.
i nearly thought that standing higher actually gave him the attack and defense bonus...
Has anyone ever told you you're like the Bob Ross of AoE2?
lol
Its so true, I don't even play the game anymore but I just like watching his videos
lmao yes he is
Start a Twitch account already man... You are practically guaranteed to be huge, some people make a full living on Twitch playing Age of Empires 2, and you are way more popular than them.
That doesn't have to do anything with streaming. If he'd stream he doesn't have to unreveal anything or join the AoE 2 community - even tho that wouldn't be necessary a bad thing. He could just cast and do commentary or play and o commentary and that requries different skills than in preparing and staging videos. - Don't take this as some sort of hate. I just don't see SOTL from your prespective.
Well, SOTL is really more of a behind-the-scene guy, his strength is in research and nice nerdy video production, so I do believe TH-cam is the best platform for him. Although I don't mind him starting a twitch some day, I really daut that he'll make a living outta this, doesn't he have multiple degrees and all that? But that will boost the community for sure, that video with Tatitoh could be a start.
I'd rather have him on YT... I don't like twitch at all. Most of the YT channels I watch upload edited & scripted videos. Meanwhile on twitch it's spray and pray content, it's live.
Furthermore you cannot pause a stream in 2017 over there? What the hell man? :D
952way You ought to see MembTV or T90Official on Twitch, they have their shit put together... They also make a living playing and doing things AOE related.
Spirit could do this if he wanted.
@@ROFLBOB24 This. T90 is the best.
Now a harder challenge - 2v1 hardest but treaty length of 30 minutes
oooo i like that
That's essentially what The Viper did. And even with his micro, he needed 3 tries to get it done.
Barbarian AI are harder to play against than the standard Hardest AI. Nowhere near as hard.
the hardest standard AI is comparable to the easy barbarian AI, which is what viper played against
Viper played against 2 HARDEST BARBARIAN AI which is by far the most intelligent ai out there plus it cheats. STANDARD AI would clearly lose.
this can't be the hardest, when I play it bum rushes me at min 16 with a butload of archers.
I know right, I feel like he got lucky, there are times when the AI doesn't play as hard.
@@DrSaav-my5ym When you are attacking an AIs ally they start to act kind of weird, attacking your main base less aggressively and prioritising the defence of their ally, but generally being very slow and low energy about it.
I think it's because the resources were set to Low, so the ai focuses on food and SOTL focused on wood and gold and managed to rush the ai faster. But yeah you're right, with Standard resources the ai rushes at around 15 mins in.
the AI bum rushes you when it has the score advantage, once it loses the score advantage it gets all weird and defensive
As Nate said, when the AI detects you are too weak it will just zerg rush for the kill. Getting an early army and eco booming well is key. You can't just sit around and boom until imperial though as the computer will begin throwing everything at you nonstop. It will just outplay you in micro spam, especially with a monk conversion death ball. If game goes into deadlock and imperial age, you'll have to castle/tower/wall creep and use trash units, siege catapults, and defensive monks for healing/conversions to overcome their blobs of spam. Then you need to immediately counter attacks with unit reinforcing as the CPU base has nothing but a castle or two aside from standing armies. They will likely control forward gold, relics and have trade carts between the AI so you can only abuse their stupidity. Also I think resources set to low really messes up their efficiency, they went too far forward early and he abused them with archers.
I really like this kind of thing, explaining the decisions
1:12 "Don't tell them what we need them back for" xD
Ah, I get it now.. Haha!
SOTL: Surrounding 2 hardest AI enemy towns easily with archers making them surrender.
My moderate enemy: HAHAHAHA you fool.
I love that you point out every little detail. Used to play when I was 14, when it was new :D
Now I picked it up recently and I was never a serious player.
To be honest, this has always been a good classic - I haven't played it in years since I was very young. Just watching your video made me think how much of a joyful game it is, and/or can be! Good video by the way; keep it up!
What I learned about scouting is that it's useful to not leave any unexplored spots, however up to a certain radius around your TC, so that you don't miss out on resources. I've found relics at the end of the game in 3-4 tiles of unexplored map not too far from my base, 3-4 tiles of extra neutral gold or stone with easy access, pools with 4-5 tiles of shore fish, etc.
rohitchaoji 4-5 shorefish?
Tbh, that was a case of MegaRandom's bizarre map generation at times. There were other similar pools on the map, apparently.
Whenever I play AoE2 the AI behaves totally different.
The two Civs not being bothered by me would have attacked me with a neverending stream of mainly low cost units after 15 minutes.
Mines really different too. They spam a lot more units compared to the ai in this video and the stream of units don't stop. This feels more like a moderate bot to me
@@rogerduong6939 Eh, playing against moderate with my son, they trickle low cost units, playing against hard and hardest, they tend to archer rush early but then actually build reasonable army comps after that fails.
The algorithm's still unstable, indeed. It's kind of creepy when they comes out with Crusaders at 20" all the Al algorithm procees on defeating the enemy quickly but I find it so boring. For me, a war should be lasting around 1 hour but when they comes up early with an army instead of having some economy that gives you a joy (that being able to spawn everything in the game in dozens) =)
Just a quick tip to improve your Dark Age timing:
Don't "over force drop" the food. The time you lose when force dropping can make you not have the 50 food when you need to click to make your next vill.
That is what happened several times during your dark age. If you start quickly collecting food, the vills will reach 10 food and drop on the town center around 9x% of the villager production for every villager cycle. I know that waiting for them to automatically drop can see dangerous or even give you the chills to force drop just ot make sure. Don't do that! Force drop continuously can make your efficiency drop significantly (at least in the beginning when those seconds really make a difference).
If you force drop, those small seconds will build up and you will end up having to force drop every time, which will make you lose food and villager production time (not to mention that it open up the possibility to collect 49 food and have to start a new ship, which costs more time).
If you really need to force drop food, you can pick up 1 or two villagers (not all the 6-7 on the sheep/boar) to even out the 50 food, therefore, you would not lose the dropping time of all them but only for a couple of vills which turns out will allow you to not to force drop every time.
Hey Spirit, law guys of the here
I really love your videos! One suggestion for the topic of a future video could be a video on all of the game's unique units, what you like/don't like about them, and how you think they can be improved, if necessary. I always get the feeling that unique units are very underused, with a couple of exceptions. Possibly because they're not worth creating?
Depends on the unique unit. Longbows, turtle ships, conquistadors, catapharacts, jannisaries, and samurai are all generally worth it, in my experience; even then, Jannies and Samurai are pretty situational and conquistadors are only useful because Spanish archers are laughable.
the easiest answer would be that you usually need to get to the castle age and build a castle to recrute them, which is a lot of cost and a lot of time to get there. You would have to have a long game, or a strong enough economy to build several castles to build many special units in a reasonable time. So i'm guessing, and from what i've heard most games end at an earlier point making them not a viable option in a large amout of games.
It is true though that there are some very strong special units, like the conquistadores, longbow archers, plumed archers, or mangudai and weaker ones like axe throwers
I'm really exited for the Malian civ overview
That castle on yellow. THE DISRESPECT! LOL
We want the Malians and Malay overview :D
Nice video and thanks especially for the good commends / explanations for why you did what.
Btw. what I like the most about the Barbarian AI, is not necessarily that it is more challenging, but it is more human like. It may try to steal your boar, kill your weak villager with its scout, might fight back with its vills if it thinks it can beat you, gather from sheep pretty effectively, scout with sheep (although not as good as a human player), lure deer with its scout, but especially I think it adapts its counter units better to what you throw at the AI. With Userpatch 1.5 AI scripters even work on impressive drush micro and archer-micro vs mangonals.
To be honest I'm surprised the AI got overwhelmed so easily... Usually, when I try to rush the hardest AI with a single unit like you did, in the next minute I get completely swarmed by the counter of this unit. I was totally expecting the AI to make a ton of skirms against you and honestly I don't understand why it didn't...
I have to say, You are Vaatividya of Age of Empires 2.
You're polite, passionate and no BS.
We certainly like your contents, keep it up!
I subscribed as well!
I find the AI (on hardest) very vulnerable to Trushing. Especially if you build a tower close to the TC. It garrisons and ungarrisons all villagers in an endless loop until the villagers are all dead. For some reason the TC only garrisons the villagers and attacks your tower if you attack the TC, not if you attack the villagers around the TC. I actually consider that a bug in the AI, since it get stuck in a loop of garrisoning it's villagers 'cause it's being attacked and ungarrisoning them 'cause it needs resources.
You should definitely check that out.
Red's in lockdown.
I feel that.
The reason that AI advanced to Castle Age at 13:52 even when basically decimated is because, at this diffuculty, there is a script that gives out (tributes) a massive amount of resources to enemy AI every few minutes. If you want to see this for yourself, play a replay and switch it to the AI's side.
Your buildorder was smooth except you put too many villagers on gold early, so you were needlessly stacking gold when wood became a problem. Anyways, good job!
Excellent, as always, Spirit. You've got the best AoE2 channel out there. I really appreciate the way that you create content that appeals to casual players like me that just enjoy playing the game and have no interest in going pro.
Amazingly, you even make math fun!
I, for one, like to go purple with bizantines
Lorgar Aurelian
Swordfall: Kingdoms player?
Either this or Medieval 2 Total War.
I go orange with zergs and blue with protoss
Artsenor Um, or maybe just someone with minimal historical knowledge? It's pretty basic knowledge that purple is the colour of Eastern Rome.
I thought you'd prefer red or yellow
That sheep joke actually made me laugh, got a few weird looks for that 🐑🐑🐑
"The ai gets stuck building one unit" .................. "ok yellow gave up before I could use my shotel warriors but I really want to use them so I'm going to queue up a bunch"
It seems that this Hardest AI is weaker than Hard AI , I always fight against Hard AIs and they age up faster (before 10 mins), and they reach Castle Age at about 15-17 mins and as soon as they reach Castle, they start rushing at me with Long Swordsmen and Cav Archers, this Hardest AI looks lame and pathetic, being in Castle Age and fighting with spearmen and scout cavalry and reaching Feudal at 14 mins.
The hard ai isn't going fuedal before 10 minutes and getting a 15 minute castle unless it's cheating
As someone who doesn't play AOEII anymore (and didn't ever play seriously to begin with), I really appreciate the visuals you include during editing. It really helps me keep up with your thought process and sort of understadnw hy you do things a certain way. Very entertaining!
I love that you're back making regular videos, bb.
i recently learned you wrote the intro song to your videos! i didnt know you were also a musician, and a good one at that. i also LOVE the song map of the problematique!
I liked this video because I’ve been looking all day how to put the little flags down to command troops and villagers and I found it here.
Everbody knows Green builds 1.33% faster due to coding issues with priority frame cycles.
StriKe jk wait, what?
That's a curious comment that I am not sure if could be true or not.
StriKe jk hwatt
XDDDD
StriKe jk Lol, misinformation.
Your voice is relaxing bro and your math analisys is impressive
Dude. You not taking out the monks as they keep converting your units was killing me.
So you researched Heresy?
I appreciate your use of the correct in-game trees. Lets the rest of us who appreciate the as-built game get a look at what the game was supposed to look like. :)
nice commentary, really funny, well played. i like how he compliments the AI's pros of their playstyle while crushing them lol
thanks. hold shift and right click to queue locations in succession.
Michael Hall II -- FYI the same thing works on the battle map in Total War games.
make tutorials how to play maps like nomad, arabia, islands, or even black forest
LuxrayCL I dont know about nomad but for arabia: any feudal rush. Islands: fireships asap. Bf: wall, wall, boom, fight after all your techs are researched and you are max pop.
spirit of the law looks at ingame mechanics, if you want to learn strategies, you should look at other channels.
everything is mechanic,i know already play all the maps, but is just a suggestion
SOTL is probably not someone to teach you those strategies.
Oh dang I just watched the vs hardest yesterday had no idea this was a new upload!
because of you i play aoe2 again
the last time i played was 13 years ago
I enjoy building cool-looking settlements with complex wall configurations. That basically means that I get slaughtered by Hard AI and human opponents all of the time but that's just me.
same. i like to build everythong first...and then maybe disuss politics with the enemy
@@OXhuls Worst case I will ally with an AI then build cannon towers in their civilization and betray them later.
Hey Spirit, I discovered your channel last friday and I had a blast with your content. I was sick all weekend and your videos helped me a lot (though during my fever dreams I was seeing AoE units haha).
Can you repeat this? This AI is not acting like mine does! If I do like You the AI which are not attacked always massing Skirms and it would not work with archers/xbows only.
Yea, the AI was pretty weak here. DO IT AGAIN SPIRIT OF THE LAW.
it's because the resources were set to LOW and when you do this the Ai focuses on food, while SOTL rushed very early and ruined everything lol
I think this is the original AI, not the HD AI
Yeah when I play even against moderate 1v1, it has a castle up by 17-18 min and a mass army
For players watching this since DE - remember this video was made well before our "not that serious of a player" was carrying Hera in a ranked match...
i like the editing.. adding those pictures for clarification. gg wp
Hey, I'm very new to AoE2 meta and I find your videos VERY helpful even though they're meant for more advanced players than me. I think you'd make amazing beginner's videos.
Nice vid!!! thumbs up. Now for the next challenge: could you do 1 vs 7 AI all teamed against you on hardest(map choice and civ's up to you).
I know that sounds ridiculous, and would be a real(and long) pain for you, but true enjoyment for us - YT watchers.
Thanks in advance.
Works vs any amount of hardest AI
1. Turtle your base
2. Left one path passable, but build simple wall maze. So AI would try to run through it, not destroy.
3. Build 2-3 castles nearby, fill them with archers
4. Survive until AI waste all the resources. Repair walls and castles, steal some units with monks.
5. Assault.
P.S. Instead of the maze you can build multiple parallel gates and troll AI by opening/closing them independently.
Knuckles #2761 except they will trade resources and one or two of them will rush you before you can have any defenses.
Great vid as always, especially the Star Wars references made me smile. :)
Hey man. Enjoying your videos a lot. Have a couple of ideas to do a research on. First - which I now just did - how to place towers, and about their radius (and about all ranged units in general) - how tiles are calculated. I figured that tower with 8 range shoots the target which is st 12 o'clock, and three tiles to the left at that range and three tiles to the right - that's theoretical, because I haven't had time to study it in practice, just on graphics. Towers which has +3 range in that theory hut the target in 11 radius located at 12 o'clock, and four tiles to the left and four tiles to the right. Its probably that if radius covers more than a half of the tile, it hits the target there, and if radius doesn't cover more than a half of a tile - it skips he target. But that's theory, would be really cool to see it in one of your videos.
Second thing is more elaborate, and while I was writing about towers I came to think that's its irrelevant. thanks so much for ur quality content!
If all teachers could explain their subject as chill as you explain the mechanichs and everything in aoe2, i'd actually enjoy school.
Great commentary. Thank you
uve come a long way since barely beating one hard ai. nice job
4:19 "I'm not that serious of a player, so I don't worry about little things like that"
*Is* serious and player w/ a +100k YT channel
Dude that cant be hardest AI.. i mean how come that at 18 mins neither blue or yellow got any proper army?
I Think that is because be assaulted them and They had no economy. Plus They had some, but not much, look at blue, it had some knights. Also how he mentioned, They weere rushing monks. But he played The harras game well from the beggining
Yeah, when I play against just hard, they have like 15 units at 14 minutes.
It always ramps up at like 20 minutes but he prevented it with his raiding
The problem lies with the algorithm changing when you have AIs on teams. How they play on a 1v1 vs a 3v1 is different.
9:40 look at the settings pop up.
You make my day Spirit!
Hey guys, Spirit of The Law here!
my mouse has a page back and page foward button of the side for your thumb, and then page back is pre-bound to go to tc, and page foward, goes to idle vilagerl! my mouse is a RAT T.E. if anyone is interested! super cheap, but pretty great mouse! sweet video spirit! nice job
As a general statement, playing in single player can be a good way to practice your micro and build orders. It's a good way to familiarize yourself with new strategies, new hotkeys, using control groups, and a lot of other key gameplay ideas that will really help you out if you get used to them. Are you wondering if you can go up to 2 stable knights one vill quicker than usual with Berbers? You can try that build order out in single player against the AI. Obviously, the AI (for the most part) isn't that good in AoE2, and it doesn't really mimic a real player, but it can be a good tool to improve on your own if you're nervous about playing online.
Thank you for explaining the scouting and flags.
Plz plz plz more gameplay vids one day 😁. Win or lose, your gameplays seem more informative than any others
You make me want to play against you. The problem is that I specialize in turbo fast games! I could not hold a candle to your random setting. Love the videos!
queued up those starting villagers so fast I had to rewatch to actually see it
im so excited for more vids like these
I appreciate your vids man. I just successfully archer rushed an AI using Britons
4:00 "Im not that serious a player". Jaw on the floor.
Man I like this game. Old, but enduring for me.
Appreciate the Ethiopian 'Begena' music at 0:47. Authentic.
3:30 you should reference your video when your explaining the flags. More views + new guys see what the channel is mostly about.
Alright. You are officially crazy now. I like it. That’s the perfect type of video to go to sleep to now. But I’ll watch it again some other day when I’m awake ^^‘
"I'm not that serious of a player" *goes against 3 hardest AI*
"… don't tell them what we need them back for …" Hmm …
I am so bad at this game that anyone Tower rushig can get a better castle time than me when i am trying to fast castle.
'' loys of units killed that's what archers do, and lots of resources collected, thats what villigers do'' :P
My father was a master in this game. He used to play against 7 hardest AI on FFA and he beat their asses almost all the games.
once a played 1v7 hardest AI on BLACK FOREST, i walled myself and survive. After 12hrs i felt they attack less and start to revide. In 15 hrs of game i won.
obs: i never used hotkey and study ANY aspect of the game, just play for pass the time.
this was like 10 years ago and i stoped playing. Now i occasionally play, but trying to use hotkey. I'm terrible at this but i'm trying to improve slowly.
Gertrude the great: remembered for defending his kingdom from the seven tribes for 15 years and finnaly defeating them.
Thank you for not using small trees mod. The original ones look much better. Also sums up your take on the game quite nicely.
Thanks for this I definitely realized I don't put enough on gold.
oohohoho fuck yeah been waiting for another video like this. love your channel spirit :D
Have you honestly won on your first attempt ? Because everytime I try to archer rush vs hardest AI they just counter me with loads of skirms, whereas on your game none of them defended that way.
This was my first 1v3, though I've done lots of 1v2. I've found in my limited experience that in 1v2 they seem to mostly go for feudal aggression and in 1v3 they seemed to all be trying to fast castle. I don't know how unusual that is.
They like to FC in team games. Against ai you could probably just go straight into knights before they can get you.
I really love your match commentary videos ❤❤ please make some more in 2019 if you can, I'd really appreciate that ❤❤
As a noob, this video taught me a lot. And was fun to watch! Thanks!
I tried doing a 1v2 against hardest AI, I built a bunch of walls around me, made archers and watch towers. I was in the feudal age and next thing I know I see there imperial age armies from both sides of me completely destroy me in seconds 😂
If you are not able to have good map control, you can pause, give orders to your units, then unpause to see things happen.
Interesting game about rushing 3 hard ai enemies before they have the chance to react.
Motivated me to re-install AoE II, and I've lost twice to standard AI now... thanks a lot, SPIRIT.
Lol placing those flags you talked about at rougly 3:25 those flags was THE FIRST trick I learned when I started playing AoE2 XDDDD
This is so amazing. I wish I could take more than 1 medium AI at a time
I agree with you on the small trees . I used to play this game on cd rom . This is more like the map style I used to play .
I love ur gameplay..