Brexit Is Like The Old Woman Who Swallowed A Fly 🪰 Going Badly!
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- The reason that people fell for #Brexit is because it is a complex subject and the Leave Campaign packed their campaign with lies and misinformation which triggered feelings.
But now as the GBeebies presenter points out Brexit has become like the Old Woman Who Swallowed A Fly as more and more unintended consequences play out, all of which remainers predicted.
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Edwin Poots believes the world is 6000 years old. His views on a Brexit should be treated with the same level of derision.
GBN are looking for a delusional moronic answer, so they ask a delusional moron.
Nice backdrop for the broadcast.
And ? Dont listen to him Listen to Minford
I doubt the pro-Brexit Scottish farmer realizes the irony of wanting to stop the post Brexit trade deals with OZ & NZ. "They're not even part of the EU." Oh dear, he hasn't really understood Brexit.
It does beggar belief. So many voted for Brexit who were totally ignorant of the consequences.
@@buzzukfiftythree Perhaps you could entertain us with your apparent clairvoyance and perspicacity. How did we know that the establishment would ignore the UK voting population and follow their own agenda ?
exactly
@@buzzukfiftythree ... and some are STILL ignorant of the consequences, even NOW, as evidently proven by the farmer in green!
Farmers protesting in the EU is proof of the freedom to protest and the fact EU citizens are far more willing to protest than British subjects.
Nothing more 🙄
British rivers are full of free fertilizer. And the passports are blue.
Subjects! Imagine living life as a subject!
Liz dont take your foot off
Keep at it
Full of admiration for you Liz!! I hope you get much more support.
Fortunately for Mr Poots there were enough people in Northern Ireland to see through UKip and Brexit. Ireland has saved Northern Ireland farmers and exporters
Not just farmers, we've all lost out because of brexit, we've lost far more than we have gained, if any.
i cant say that.....but maybe its different here in the EU...!
@@Arltratlo You haven't lost your freedom of movement within the EU& all the benefits that go with it, unfortunately we have.
@@user-ol6rd7pl5t oh, i do have that, i never felt i have them...
because every time i went to Belgium or France, nobody ask me where i am going!
driving in Switzerland, crossing the borders 30 times a day...in a not EU country been so easy...
they saw my German license plate and let me pass without talking to me!
can you do the same in the UK??
only people who have lost out are unskilled uneducated remainers who have no skills to offer anyone.
@@user-ol6rd7pl5t maybe get an education and you can leave
Young James might be a good farmer but for the rest is he just like the millions who overnight became experts in the intricacies of international politics, trade and finance by reading some MSM headlines, talking about it in the pub and parroting ideas they liked but didn't quite understand.
The best summing up of the situation I have read online.
He typifies the head in the sand mentality of the Brexiteer. He says he wants to be paid a “fair price” for what he produces. Ironically that’s exactly what he is being paid whilst his competitors enjoy subsidies or have lower standards to meet both of which reduce their market price.
Little Britain cannot operate in isolation and just as “getting our borders back” has not stopped boats arriving from France and actually made matters worse because were not in the EU so this mythical halcyon days of Empire that was peddled by leavers has proven to be as illusory as the £350m a week for the NHS.
What Rees-Moog, Farage and Johnson etc really wanted from Brexit is an unregulated financial market in which British financial institutions can make yet more billions which they can then stash away in tax havens abroad.
It was also only a select part of MSM where the headlines were written in crayon (figuratively) and supported narrow and prejudiced views.
The old "unelected" argument proves it. We've never elected our head of state, anyone in the house of cronies, or indeed our prime minister.
Scotland didn't even vote for the party in power, and didn't vote for Brexit either.
I love the way there is always a Scottish voice claiming it's everyone else's fault because Scotland didn't vote for Brexit.....the usual 'Teflon shoulders', not me mate! I would like to remind Scottish voters that although a majority voted Remain, it wasn't 100% or even 90%. It left enough Leave voting suckers, that when combined with England, Wales and Northern Ireland just tipped it into the 52/48 fiasco we have all had to try and deal with ever since! Let's deal with the here and now, and try to turn the whole country's fortunes around, and get some decent politicians elected who aren't out to stuff their own pockets and are really wanting to get Britain back on its feet with less of the division and tribalism that Leave and Tories like to stir up, as a distraction from the real issues.
It was all predicted but you voted for brexit anyway
Was it predicted that the farmers in the EU would have their land taken from them (Netherlands), and there would be famers protests against the EU net zero rules and higher taxes?
@@MRW515 Check your facts, you are wrong about compulsary land grabs in Nederland.
@@edwardbernthal160 I will check
No I didn't
BTW it's "The Netherlands", Holland is just a small part of our country in the west. It's a bit like me referring to the UK as Wales.
Half the world refers to the UK as England. It's a very similar error.
But the Dutch always said they came from Holland but now your goverment says you have to say you are from the Nederlands. Technically you are right but when did you last hear ''hup Nederlands'' at an international football game?
@@edwardbernthal160 Actually we don't all say we are from Holland but yes some people have misled those they encounter. However if the person is from the provinces of North or South Holland then they are correct. As for citing sports people as an argument, well all I can say is that "Team GB" does seem to be forgetting a few people. 😂
Dutch people call the UK, England, all the time.
Same in France, most french people call the "Netherlands" Hollande. Sometimes "Pays-Bas" but not that often 😉
They've destroyed the rivers and the largest fresh water lake in the U.K. lough neagh ...well done
Have farmers done as much damage as the privatised water companies?
@edwardbernthal160 I'm well aware of the water companies. Mr Poots is from Northern Ireland the water isn't privatised and he at one point was he was in charge..
France protest at a drop of the hat. A large number of French wanted to leave the EU. After Brexit there is little movement to leave the EU.
EU framers are not in a worse position, but they do protest much harder. They will be back outside my Brussels office again next week and t hey have a lot of popular support.
but UK farmers have public support, too...
if they keep voting Tory, the Tories will keep ignoring them...!
Ah Edwin Poots , we know him well in NI. Former DUP leader, absolute believer in creation and that the world is under 7000 yrs old.
He also believes that it’s Gods will that a woman must be subservient to a man be he her father, husband, uncle, adult brother or adult son. Women should be “helpmeets’ to men and their role is the home.
Poots was totally opposed to Arlene Foster (a lawyer) being leader of the DUP and First Minister of NI and told her this publicly.
James Fairlie seems a right pillock.
Feelings, emotions. That is what the leave campaigned on. Remain coulnd not fight emotions with facts.
ALL Remainers and pro-European protesters are owed a huge apology & explanation ... I'll wait!! 🥰
We are still waiting for the apology for the UK ditching the commonwealth and joining the EEC, so get in line. That contributed to 20 years of loss.
@@peterclareburt4594 In the 1960's the UK helped form the EFTA and hoped that with that organization alongside the Commonwealth, we'd be able to counter the EEC. Within a couple of years, that fantasy was shown up. Very much like now, we left the EU and tried to replace it. Now, within a few years of doing that, that fantasy was shown up.
Isn't it strange that commonwealth countries no longer want to be pushed around by their former imperial masters?
Do you live under a rock? haven't you been watching how the farmers in the EU are being mistreated?
Nobody owes anyone anything.
Opinions and speech are free.
That statement alone tells me that you have never been in business for yourself.
God Noe’s wat we wur thinking when nearly half the British people voted out in the Brexit referendum
Not ‘the British people’. The people in Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU.
@@clarecrawford9677 yeah that’s true Clare don’t no wat we wur thinking though
@@glenparker8458 DEMOCRACY.
@@keithhutchins8966 and look where it’s got us
@@glenparker8458 Where do you think it's got us? It's not Brexit that has got us here, quite the reverse, in fact. But it has revealed the duplicitous, undemocratic nature of what we once regarded as a benign system of governance. "I think we'd better think it out again" Fagin's song in OLIVER Lionel Bart. Pass the gruel, please.
I don’t watch GB news.
I must say it is very good of the platform to give an actual person (remainer) with facts and go uninterrupted.
the UK was able to be a low wage economy because the farmers too were not getting a fair wage=food was kept cheap. This cannot work in the long run. But hey, as long as financiers are still being well-paid. Trouble is, you can't eat financial products.
If trickle down economy worked, Victorian factory workers would have been rich. How did the world ever fall for that lie?
The uk is low wage economy because of pressure from industries like farmers who demanded access to cheap shit labour. The gov obliged by widening the eu to include Eastern Europe. With Maastricht already signed by Tory boy Major free movement assured the idiots could waltz over to the uk for £25 Ryan flight and access jobs and social services doctors dentists schools and nhs for fuck all. Thanks eu. Better off out. But we have been let down by leftie twats
The Victorians saw that trickle down economics wouldn't work and even named it horse and sparrow economics. You feed the one horse the best you can and hope the sparrows can pick out what they can from the other end.
@@stephenhodgson3506 Thank you, I will remember the horse and sparrow. The metaphor including shit really encompasses what most(not all: Cadbury and a few others. Proving in fact that you could pay and treat workers well and still make a pile!!) wealthy bosses thought of the workers.
You made us watch GBNews again!
It was worth it though! I’ll try to avoid sharing their content again for a while but this one was a good example of flawed Brexit thinking.
Of all UK voters that I've heard throughout the years, the Northern Ireland ones always seems to be the most desilusional ones.
If you don't get a fair price you should unionise. Start your own cooperation with other farmers, process your food. Then you're in a better negotiation position. In Belgium for example you can buy fairbel milk in the supermarkets.
Biggest recession in agriculture since the 1930s was in the 1990s.
I really detest these "experts" in farming wearing rose tinted glasses who couldn't manage a hanging basket, let alone a farm.
The disastrous trade deals signed with Australia and NZ by then prime minister for 3 weeks Liz Truss and Borris Johnson afterwards were just a desperate attempt at a political win for brexit, not so much an economic one, as they have led you to believe, and besides Truss and Johnson knew they would be out of office by the time people realize how bad those trade deals really were.
The price for those trade deals ? You threw your own farmers under the bus, amongst other things, im sure.
You have my sympathy, Mrs Webster, as a long time remainer, I can only imagine your multilayered frustration when it comes to dealing with muppet talk from gbnews on one side, as well as more sarcastic pro EU persons like me on the other, who are not even British but are curious to see what a slow motion car crash brexit is and was always meant to be, slowly unravelling.
However, I still remain flabbergasted at how ill-informed and gullible the British public has become, and how generally uninterested in politics they are.
Your last sentence sums it all up very well.That and "Nobody is gunna tell ME what to do".
In what way we're the trade deals with Australia and New Zealand disastrous for the UK. The UK has a surplus of trade with both countries.
Surely the trade with the EU either in or out was disastrous, as the UK suffers a massive continual deficit.
And the only profit or income UK farmers were making was the taxpayers paying them a subsidy. I.e. really not much more than the dole.
@@peterclareburt4594 Nope. The issue is that term surplus. It is simplistic. If we cannot now get needed components to make products to sell outside of the EU, then that term does not describe matters. If we hit the economy for £100 billion a year yet we used to have a £80 billion deficit, then Brexit was a net benefit of £20 billion. Now, I do know that last figure is suspect....but I included it to show that simplistic views of surplus and deficit are misused and misunderstood. Crazier still, when we talk about a surplus situation it refers to INCOME but not PROFIT. I can sell at a loss for example.
We had a services surplus at a higher margin than the deficit which was at a tighter margin. A lot of services are sold on the back of products sold. We closed up access to sell products and as a result closed off markets to services. The worst part is that takes time to impact as you might have sold a piece of heavy machinery 5 years ago with a 5 year lifespan and a 5 year services contract. Now that item is due to be replaced, and we may lose out to an EU country which then will also take the services contract too.
This is why all those figures mentioned needed to explained further.
@@peterclareburt4594 now it’s even worse as we’ve lost subsidy and profits are non existent thanks to bad trade deals undercutting us with substandard food! We are importing more food than ever thanks to Brexit and losing food security.
So the UK has nothing of interest to export to the continent, but is in dire need of products from the EU because it doesn't produce much itself.
And somehow that is the fault of the EU and a reason to leave. What sound reasoning.
Very good!
"Are farmers are better of after brexit?" Not knowing Irish, and not knowing English.
So, when the monocled pencil promised cheaper food from day one, what exactly did Edwin think he was referring to?
Not one penny/cent when we were shut down due to foot and mouth.
I couldn’t think of one British farm product I would want to buy. Cheddar? Stilton? We have thousands of different cheeses in the EU. Can live without these.
Well, it's high-time that someone got it right!! "framers were better off in the EU" `But` it would seem however, that quite a number of farmers, very much like Poots; when they voted for brexit had - and possible still have - a political agenda; an agenda, that wasn't EU orientated. In short an agenda, having nothing to do with farming!!
OK, it now obvious, that Liz is more interested in framing than she is in the mechanics of Tory nationalism, however Poots isn't. Keep the - "brexit was a very bad idea" - pot boiling Liz. You!! are going to make brexit a embarrassment. Here in Denmark; We say " when the farmer stop protesting and belly aching, then something is radically wrong" Farmer revolting against injustice; isn't of a newer date.
Poots doesn’t care about farming!
At least they can abolish income tax on British farmers to help them stay afloat
Promised a bed of roses...and all we got was weeds
Excellent comment and analysis, Liz
We used to have farming round up every sunday on TV....a connection that TV stations wrecked...fishing too.
I will never understand how any farmer voted to leave the EU.
Psychology.
The farmers have Not lost the subsidys lies lies lies
Please please ask all the farmers before you take our agriculture back to the common agricultural policy
Poots is unbelievably thick, but that is not an issue when it comes to being a DUP MP.
Trouble is!
If there was another vote on Brexit tomorrow, the UK farmers would all vote for it again. 😱 Go figure!
Also never mind that they would all vote against social benefits for the unemployed and the poor. While demanding subsidies and Lord-give-me-strength flipping "universal basic income", probably just for themselves. Many farmers will always be hypocritical selfserving conservatives all the way, with little regard to anyone who isn't like them.
Don't get me wrong, I support that the government keeps the agro sector alive and kicking, as a country we'd need to and are obliged to.
But in another form, at another level and for another purpose than just allowing individual farmers to do their business as if they weren't competing against foreign farmers that range from first world megascale high-tech businesses to mass employed low-wage third world businesses, regulated or not and everything inbetween.
Currently, classic farming, in Europe and in the US, but, because of Brexit, especially in the UK, is in serious trouble.
The (British) farming sector needs to develop its own coherent vision about their form and place that fits in the modern context, globally and domestically. And it should be more than just calling themselves 'practicing environmentalists' and then trying to go on as if the world still were in the late 1950s or earlier.
good
Farmers fisherman, hospitality hospital care homes small businesses are all doing amazing Brexit was a massive success. Everyone can see it. GB news doesn’t have to keep trying telling us what we already know.😂
There are labour shortages in the EU
Yet no one can list the benefits experienced so far. They generalise and so It's bad in Europe. I go there regularly. It's not bad. Lieing UK papers and GB news are not reality.
@@MRW515and easy ways to fill them😂
What line of business are you in, Kevin?
@@martinhambleton5076 I’m presuming he was being tongue in cheek?
Brexit has been a disaster all around. I am very concerned that the British government, any British government, will not want to maintain the high standards which the EU has always insisted on. If Trump gets back into the White House, he is more likely to give us Brits a trade deal. That in itself will lower our food standards. Then we'll be importing hormone-injected beef, chlorine washed chicken, and GMO crops, and much else besides. These are troubling times for framers; and they are troubling times for consumers, too. This is the mess you get when ideology trumps common sense.
The lack of founing is not down to Brexit as you where all ways was morning a bout it or something or other.
'Why should ...' is a dogwhistle everywhere
Subsidies keep food affordable for the consumer.
Go to Australia and NZ and see what a non subsidized food costs in the supermarket.
When i was living there it was almost as expensive to cook a meal as to get a take away, ridiculous.
Whilst out on my weekly shop, I noticed a rather large selection of Australian lamb for sale, and I have to say, it may well be less expensive than Scotch lamb,but due to the overall cost of living I can’t afford that either 😢
Poots got what he wanted, and a shed load of cash to boot..
What i hear from the farmers is "You cant prove we voted Brexit, and if we did then only to be better off - so now hand out our well deserverd Brexit benefits."
While in the EU you complained about EU continental farmers being better off.
Now you complain about EU farmers being better off and british farmers outside of england being better off.
Nothing much changed with the farmer mindset, maybe england should have a vote about leaving the UK ?
Great idea! Plucky England can go it alone, while Scotland and Wales can rejoin NI in the Single Market. It sounds good to me!
@@Holliethedog Actually you can not join the singlemarket. Scotland and Wales, if they are independent European states can apply for membership in EU as soon as they comply with the Copenhagen criteria. NI has a limited freedom of goods into the single market because of the Good Friday Agreement. That is a unique solution from EU to keep up the peace on Ireland.
@@Holliethedog Scotland, Wales and NI could rejoin a "celtic alliance" and then get somehow dragged back in the EU by Éire, maybe with the help of the true (french) Britanny, wich doesn't say it's "great", but "celtic" .
@@astree214 It's Ireland, Éire is used when speaking in the Irish language.
But I'll let you off as you put a fada over the É 😉
UK produced food is always likely to need to be subsidised. As Liz says, it is essential to have food security. During WW2 the British government took full control over food production to ensure the nation didn’t starve. We don’t want to get to that position again. Of course we need to import foodstuffs and EU membership ensured that those foods we imported from the EU were transported quickly and efficiently without tariffs and of a good standard. I’ve certainly noticed a decrease in imported food quality since Brexit, and customs delays mean that more imported food than before has pretty much reached its sell-by date by the time it gets on to the supermarket shelves. This is entirely the fault of this bl**dy awful Tory government. Voting Reform won’t help matters - look at their proposals and you realise they’re totally crackpot and unworkable.
no the eu would not of stopped until it closed all british farms they got money for keeping their land empty they should get money to grow not to keep land empty its time for the uk to start growing again.
Wow Brexit farmer has no clue! That’s why we are where we are!!!
He proved that he was either lying or didn’t understand what he was on about when he said about how North Sea gas and oil should be used in the U.K. North Sea oil and gas is sold onto the international markets and we have to pay for it at the going rate. It doesn’t matter how much oil and gas is produced. We will always have to pay the going rate.
Why would any farmer argue with what Dennis had to say it’s completely true!
I think Webster has swallowed a wasp
Brexit Opportunities 💩 🇬🇧 Stuff Brexit Rejoin the EU 🇪🇺
no rejoin for the UK, we are happy the bully is gone!
Frankly liz, the farmers should get 0 sympathy. The NFU told them it was a bad idea and they voted for it anyway, so thoughts and prayers i guess
Brexit is like Mavis down the street. Shes 68 now and having toy boy after toy boy...new markets new deals..pants down lads...
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The EU didn't care either!. One Christmas a law was passed to confiscate milk quotas from small farmers in Germany and Germany!. Small farmers were considered uneconomic so were refused subsidies in Britain.
The reality of successive U.K. govt decisions to allow supermarkets to hammer down farm gate prices is what ensured our problems. Germany and France have an abundance of small farms because supermarkets are controlled by govts.
@@lizwebstersbf "the number of farms in the EU has been in steep decline but the amount of land used for production has remained steady" . This is a direct quote from Eurostat. The EU is losing its small farms rapidly.
Liz I think you ment ARE are farmers better off in the EU? Not are farmer are better … otherwise it’s not a question.
Josef Denis Matyjaszek Liz?
Quite the chequered past, don't you think?
All considered?
This Christmas could be interesting.
The proverbial will hit the fan methinks. 🤔
It could be the spark that's needed though, to kickstart an agenda. 🇪🇺
Liz makes a very good point about governments subsidizing agriculture in every country.
Where does the money for subsidising farmers come from ?
@@keithhutchins8966 ordinary people. Taxes etc are used to subsidise farmers who would otherwise go out of business but with subsidies they can produce very expensive food.
Liz, is this the same Denis McShane that was expelled from the Labour Party?
What's this story about two children breaking into college and killing 20 animals? It's on the scrolling text at the bottom and might be part of something else we may need to explore, as well Britons attitude toward Europe.
if BrexSHIT goes wrong in the UK,
i would call that a great BrexSHIT benefit....
but i live in the EU, i dont feel it somehow!
You did it to yourself 😢, it was your government that did nothing! The you can’t fix stupid ! 😢😢
4:09 só because "european" (probably means EU) farmers are more vocal in their protests the conclusion is they are much worse off.
Sound reasoning. For a brexiter.
just saw the comment below 🤣🤣🤣
I bet James supports Rangers.
The problem is..... Will the EU allow Britain back. Mr "I love publicity" Farage said Britain had started the breakdown of the EU... WRONG! It's got stronger. SO! WILL THE EU WANT THE UK BACK?
We don't have our own gas and oil in the North sea, Tories sold it off.
These brexiters like saying things which stir emotions and make no sense
What a silly Scottish farmer. They made those trade deals because we were no longer part of the EU. They had to be seen as doing "great" trade deals. It's because the likes of him we have those crap trade deals. I guess he was not around in the 70's when NZ lamb was being imported cheaply undercutting British farmers , when we were known as "the sick man of Europe", when UK was bailed out by joining the EU. Dolt
Eu funding guaranteed to all eu farms, if not, they close down Paris and Brussels . Uk farmers will have to beg the Tory government, as they have no interest in the farmers, knowing most will still vote Tory!!
Most farmers I know aren’t voting Tory. Many haven’t always voted Tory either.
Was it ever explained to the farmers HOW Brexit was going to make them better off?
Yes Johnson went to a livestock market and promised the earth.
Did he mention any details ? What part of Brexit sold the idea to the farmers that did vote to leave
I do not understand why people are so against unelected ministers. Minister basically means servant. A servant to the parliament. The parliament can fire a minister anytime.
What about civil servants, should they be elected too?
The unelected House of Lords is much worse. Who is complaining against them?
Typically under FTAs you require customs registrations which can be easily handled by any company that is able to submit a VAT return. Customs checks happen but on around 2% of border crossings. Customs clearance usually happens in under 30 seconds. Sure, you can make it slightly better by removing all of that but at the cost of surrendering your regulatory autonomy to Brussels. Is that worth the cost? 85% of the world’s countries say no.
True, not all FTAs are the same. But the UK-EU TCA is the most comprehensive of its type. It is, moreover, the largest bilateral trade agreement in world economic history.
I’ve always found it intriguing how EU-enthusiasts chose economics as their main line of attack against Brexit. Still more intriguing is how they did so without making even a minimal effort to try and understand the economics. I’m - paradoxically perhaps - slightly less bemused that economists went along with it. As a profession, economists have a curiously distant relationship with common sense.
Oh yes there are edge cases. Company X has lost Y% of its revenue because its product, Z, can’t be exported without reams of paperwork. Such cases exist. But they are edge cases, unrepresentative of the economy as a whole. And only 5% of the UK’s companies are exporters.
There are many better arguments for EU membership than economics. Why didn’t its proponents focus on those?
On the Richter scale of economic events, Brexit barely even registered. Economically speaking, it was a complete non-event.
I am surprised that you are not prepared to answer the question I asked earlier or make your patrons aware of who's who in your never-ending quest with honest journalism?
It seems to me that what farmers want - all over the UK - is a guaranteed income courtesy of ( British ) Food Security. If they wanted a guarantee they should have put their money into British Water Compaines, who pay their shareholders billions each year whilst poisoning our rivers, coasts and seas. Bear this in mind the next time you hear the CEO of a British Water Company justifying a rise in cost of your water bill by telling you that investment is needed to maintain the quality and supply of water....
In addition to bearing this in mind remember ( if you are old enough ) that purchasing and dispensing of Shares was once a risky business. There is no risk in buying Water....And there will remain no risk until a British Government get`s its head screwed on and the face pointing in the right direction.
British farmers will tell you that they produce the best quality food in the world. Whether this is true or not is neither here nor there since I cannot afford the best quality food in the world, but if the British farmers had their way I`d have little choice but to buy what they say is the best quality food in the world.
I wonder what those British farmers who voted to leave the European Union though they would gain from it. A captive diner, maybe ?
There`s a fine line between pride ( in ones works, for example ) and stupidity.
Re, the British Press. I can see his face but cannot remember his name, the foreign man whom every other week appeared in The Daily Mail after having a drink at breakfast. Who`s going to tell The Daily Mail that having a glass or two of Cognac accompanying ones breakfast is common amongst Mainland Europeans ? Hell`s Bell`s - I did it myself each time I woke up in Rome. When in Rome.... I took part in similar breakfasts in Santiago de Compostela, Galicia, Spain.
The Tories have been ingenious with their manipulation. They were on side of rural voters with countryside alliance and key issues. It helped them also having George Eustice as farming minister. And farmers are controlled by the Ministry ….
The continuation of subsidies in Wales etc is to divide the farming community. Get on the tractors and go to London properly. Pathetic farmer fisherman etc response so far.
Well, it is GB News. Everyone is to blame other than the Brexiteers. And nobody knew ...
Blablabla.
So people, called experts, knew. But "the people of this country had enough of experts". Maybe if they have been fed up with experts they should have engaged the gray matter between their ears, and no I don't mean the spec of pidgin extrement that the polititians seem to have there.
But that wave of jingoism and the British "oh we are oh so smart" attitude has created an amazing crash of British society. It will take a long time for England to dig itself out of that.
I am so sorry. I get the general idea your a remainer.
However, I am struggling to articulate your post.
@ostribenius1478 It's, Blah, blah, blah, actually.
Pigeon.
Excrement.
@ostribenius1478 Expert meaning.
Ex is something that has been.
Spurt is a drip under pressure.
@ostribenius1478 I am indeed correct grammatically saying, "Your post."
When you tried to correct me saying I should have put, "You're post" is infact incorrect. This would interpret as "You are post?"
I hope this helps.
Are you are asking a question?
This is the Q asked by GBeebies
I'm no expert on farming but I've always felt this as an example .
The UK produces many different varieties of apples , so why do we have the need to import other apples from halfway across the globe ?
Tesco's profits!.
We do, but there are limits, the British consumer likes having nice looking fresh tasting apples available 12 months of the year at a relatively low price and the British industry before and even less so after Brexit cannot deliver that. Also apples come from the whole way across the globe from places such as Chilli. However as environmental costs of shipping get reflected more and more in the price, there is a way back into the market for more local and seasonal products, but it is going to be hard journey because an important and influential part of the electorate have come to enjoy a Mediterranean diet (and why not, given the choice all civilisations would eat Italian) and they are already angry about Brexit and without Corbyn to be scare them, they are going to lead the cull of the Conservatives in the coming election.
A couple of reasons: the first is that variety may not be available in the UK. Probably not true for apples, but true for more exotic fruits, which need to be grown under poly tunnels or greenhouses in the UK.
The second is basic capitalism, or more to the point short-term capitalism. The aim is to maximise profits. If you can get apples from abroad cheaper than producing them locally then get them from abroad. The problem with that approach is the local producers go out of business, so if that foreign supply disappears e.g. due to a drought, then we end up with no apples, or at the very least, apples at an inflated price.
This is what happened with Russian gas. The supply stopped and we had to find an alternative at inflated costs, leading to price increases and inflation. It's also what's happened with the water companies - they borrowed money and invested a bare minimum into the utilities allowing themselves to take huge profits, leaving the rest of us to pick up the bill.
This is why we have subsidies. If we can subsidise local farmers to produce products at competitive prices, they compete with the cheap foreign stuff and stay in business. That's what most of the protests across Europe are about - subsidies aren't enough to compete with grain coming in from Ukraine, for example.
Of course, the Tories are very much against subsidies, because it's against their political principles. Their attitude, as regularly proclaimed by uber-spiv Mogg, is to simply import produce and let the locals go out of business. He's not going to starve, is he?
We don't need to, but we want to. Do you remember the French Golden Delicious campaigns? They changed our opinions on what we wanted.
@@stephenconway2468 What changed the decision on Golden Deliciouse was the flavour!. We grow far better flavoured apples here in the UK. We the consumer CAN INFLUENCE what is sold in Tescos, consumer is king!.
People who say FARMERS and FISHERMEN voted to leave and now are complaining. Ever heard of the word HINDSIGHT? The British people where taken in by a simple CONFIDENCE TRICK and now they realise this. Nearly 60% of the 50+% who voted to leave wish they hadn't. That's not just FARMERS and FISHERMEN that's THE PUBLIC overall. Unfortunately the politicians (two in particular. A known liar and a publicity addict) are looking the other way.
Selective memories. The countryside overwhelmingly voted leave, same as run down fishing communities. The city's on the other hand voted remain. It's because of backwards countryside thinking that Brexit happened.
I wasn’t fooled. The people who were turned it into a culture war about patriotism and being a “true Brit” at the time deeply insulted those of us who are also British but wanted the best for our children’s futures. The brexers need to fix it all now like they promised….cheaper food, massive trade deals, booming economy or keep their mouths shut.
These guys are pulling the wool over the publics eyes. Firstly The UK can't produce enough food for its population. Secondly, the gas and oil in the North Sea is sold on the world market like everyone elses, apart from the fact that it is American and Norwegian companies that own the drilling rights and sell it to whoever they please and lastly, the UK farmers had their European subsidies, but were sold a three legged dog by the anti European brigade, they bought it, campaigned for it and convinced their family and friends to help pay for that dog. They blew their own toes off and now want to blame everyone else but themselves. Poots knew the damage Brexit would have on farming in N.I but he and his party, the DUP campaigned to leave, although the majority in N.I voted to remain. They made their bed and now we all have to lie in it.
Gas from the north sea isn't sold on world markets. It's moved through pipes and is used in the UK and the EU.
I'm in Canada. The news here is exactly the same as the UK. Rising prices. economy sluggish, PM perceived as useless etc. Except they acknowledge this is all Covid fallout, as of course it is in the UK, EU, US and elsewhere. Brexit has been and gone with the net effect on the economy being negligible in the short-term and likely to be very positive in the longer term with the 47 wasted years of EEC/EU membership being a bad dream.
I’m in U.K. in agriculture and thanks to Brexit we lost access to Canada for cheese and also to the EU where 90% of our exports go. We also lost our labour source and our food subsidies and Brexit opened up terrible trade deals for big producers in our own market. Brexit has also left a black hole in the economy of around 5% of GDP which is why over 14 million are now destitute and life expectancy is crashing.
@@lizwebstersbf Brexit has given us far more than it has taken away. The "5%" exists everywhere. It is the cost of running on the credit card during Covid, zip all to do with Brexit. Look around you.
Now, are you telling me farmers can't manage with a captive market at home and competitors who are unsubsidised and are 10k miles away? You really can't be taken seriously can you?
Most of those who voted for the UK to stay in the EU are now not bothered about the UK not being in the EU, because they were in two minds over which way to vote.
I thought EU subsidies...ie " our money " was going to continue but direct from the exchequer..So what happened. And why doesnt every thing we produce get snapped up by Suoermarkets. Farmers productd here and in UK are far suoerior to most ...we also have unique and brilliant products which are genuine world beaters. We dont have strong marketibg and innovation coming through. Is there a Farmers Ideas Interface organisation. For instance is Hemp viable ? And why dont we export more seafood generally. Private individuals ship handpicked crabs to Japan for instance..we sell them to France and Sain for little...their restaraunts make the bucks. Japanese would love kippers....from Northumberland ...oh the EU closed the smokery.
""far superior to most", "unique and brilliant", "world beaters". you really don't mince words, do you? isn't that the kind of mindset that got the UK in this mess in the first place?
Johnson was never going to pay the farmers anything after the EU subsidies ended. I don’t know why the farmers couldn’t see that coming. Why swap something that is certain for a promise of continuation from a proven liar like Johnson - greed perhaps or political dogma.
@@AlexGys9 British minister by any chance? 😂😂😂,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
exactly and even the fish is happier.... lol
If, as you claim, the EU “closed the smokery” why hasn’t it reopened?
Asking for a Japanese friend.
Uk needs to start getting farming more competitive this needs taffifs on eu produce so people start looking to buy British again.
More rubbish, keep on making a chump of yourself Terry Troll. TT for short.
Please please do that. I would suggest, what, 50% on all EU imports? Or even 100%?
You do realise the EU is a meme er of the WTO don’t you? Any slight glimmering of an idea of what that would mean? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@billpugh58 you so understand they are already going to put on taffifs it’s going to be about 10% it’s what all you remainers are crying about 😂 as your eu crap horse burgers and salmonella chicken will get more expensive 😂
Buy British and then cancel the project
@@gertjan1710 I only buy British where I can I am foreign but you should support the local economy when living in the country
This is the truth Liz, the Farmers all across Europe are protesting at the very things your talking about. Environmental issues, pollution, higher taxes, less support, having their farms compulsory purchased, being forced to cull thousands of cattle and of course inferior imports. The reality is all these issues come from the EU
But still none of these European farmers want to leave their trading block, even more so now that they can see what leaving did for the UK.
The stress on the EU comes from Russia which was emboldened to invade Ukraine thanks to Brexit.
This is the truth Gary, you are a propagandist desperate to flog your anti EU rubbish. We have left the EU and I wonder why you need to keep pushing the half truths? The EU will not have us back and life in the UK for the average man will get worse. So why the smoke screen, to keep this dysfunctional far right government in place? Thankfully we are not all gullible and if all goes well we will soon rid ourselves of your kind, people who only care for themselves.
@@lizwebstersbf total rubbish and you know it they are protesting against the same things UK farmers are and all the nonsense comes from the EU
@@lizwebstersbf hahaha everything is because of Brexit according to you even wars
Wellness, the farmers voted for it. Lol