Bejah Dervish was a Baloch from Balochistan, Afghan was a term used for all races including Baloch, Puktoon, Sindhi, Rajput etc. And Maree is a name of Baloch tribe from which the city was named later on.
Afghan is an ancient tribe who speaks Pashto, Pakistan is an artificial British made country to divide and rule over following tribes P.anjabi A.fghans K.ashmiris Istan is land or geography in Persian. K.ashmiris
To the many questions why they were all called Afghans: in those days there was no Pakistan. Pashtuns and Baloch in today's Pakistan had been part of Afghanistan. Some will argue the now Pakistani parts were under British rule before they set up Pakistan BUT these people didnt consider themselves British. There are stories of others having gone to the US, and while some say they were theoretically British subjects, they identified themselves as Afghan on docements and otherwise. The fact the British declared those lands theirs, didn't change these people's identity for themselves, hence why they were known as Afghans.
The earliest mention of the name Afghan (Abgân) is by Shapur I of the Sassanid Empire during the 3rd century CE, In the 4th century the word "Afghans/Afghana" (αβγανανο) as a reference to a particular people is mentioned in the Bactrian documents found in Northern Afghanistan.
The middle of Iran afghanistan and Pakistan is called baluchistan and baluchs are well know as the best cameleers, and the word maarree means cameeler in balochi.
@@douglasedwardbaum The families who married to aboriginal families i know them personally,they also build the first mosque in Perth,helped flood people and stayed till all afghan left later Australian Government awarded them with citizenship and lands.
@@kabdul9208 The first fleet of Cameleers arrived in Australia in 1860 and this area where Cameleers brought camels were under the rule of British empire. From 1857 till 1947 the day Pakistan and India got freedom these regions were under british rule not Afghanistan.Please read the history.
Jerry Scott ,son of peter anderson and hanna.he said niazi,s are also in Australia and Turkmenistan. Niazov are there but we're are niazis in Australia.
There is, of course, much sadness associated with so many episodes in history. With my film I’ve tried to focus on the great heritage these cameleers and their descendants have brought to Australia.
Trish, thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment. As an independent filmmaker/storyteller, each view truly counts. If you have others in your social circles you think would enjoy it, please feel free to share the link.
There was no Pakistani back then ??? Balouchi people are also Afghans !! The British divided the brave ethnic groups to divide and conquer … I went to school in Pakistan even their national anthem is in Farsi .
It might have been opium that the old boy was smoking but there is a very high possibility it was cannabis as Afghan and Pakistan cannabis is as legendary as thier camels
The title is a quote from the interview subject and she was referencing that historically (and incorrectly) all the camel men were lumped by Australians into one ethnic category: Afghans. This has been done often enough over the years that “they” is representative of historical references to these camel men. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Marree is one of the largest tribes in Baluchistan Pakistan. Greetings from Pakistan - Canada. Thanks for sharing this video. Please share what their descendants do presently.
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch. My interactions with Baluch descendants is very limited, but many are fully integrated into Australian life and culture.
Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. The title is a quote taken from the interview subject, acknowledging the many ethnicities working camels in Australia were all combined, by white Australians and erroneously, into one descriptor: Afghan. She and the film further go on to list the various cultural groups, Baluch among them (and Baluch is this woman's heritage), who all worked with camels in Australia.
There are more than 50+ homes of (Indiginous) Aboriginal Baluch cameleers in Perth,Melbourne and South Australia they are not Afghans.The fact is if you ask 1 or 2 people in the ship with capacity of thousands than u will never know where exactly they came from. In all Middle East infact the Arabs knows Baluch people are good camel traders and trainers not Afghans. Many Afghans are not even familar with Camels. The fact is basically these cameleers belongs to Sindh region of Pakistan not Afghanistan.Kindly change the histroy of cameleers and there is enough proof available to change the history but who cares.Thank You
Exactly the point of the film. The title is a quote taken from Marie, the interview subject, who said the government didn’t know where any of these folks were from, “They called them all Afghans.”
@@douglasedwardbaum Thank you for sharing this video,if i am not mistaken,one of the marie is or were the grand children of famous camel driver ...from Mount Magnet (Badimaya yamatji tribe) coz they cameleers married to yamatji tribes.Thank you Baum for sharing this video.Stay Blessed
You are dead wrong about your version of the history the Pashtoon nomads are cameleers and pardon my ignorance in 1838 Pakistan didn’t exist at all .educate yourself about your history 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫
Problem with you people from the subcontinent is that you immediately become ethnic & tribal, no matter where in the world you live. The Raj first got the cameleers from Rajasthan, but later on, they changed to 'Afghans'. Now these Afghans were 1. Afghans, Suleiman khel kuchis, the graves still being there in Australia 2. Baloch 3. Punjabis, mostly from lower parts of Jammu & Kashmir, where it joins punjab in present day pakistan
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I love my Afghans ❤️
Nah
Likewise bro, the haters know our strength and all they have are lots of labels.
We will stay strong and never bow to any but the one almighty .
These people are Balouch not Afghans.
In other words , Afghans @@Aquacrystal78
A lovely interview about our early heritage, and out camels which are now some of the best in the world.
Thank you for the kind words, Anne.
Bejah Dervish was a Baloch from Balochistan, Afghan was a term used for all races including Baloch, Puktoon, Sindhi, Rajput etc.
And Maree is a name of Baloch tribe from which the city was named later on.
Thank you so much!
No he was a proud Pakistani
@@quiasnoorzad dude Pakistan came much later.
@quiasnoorzad there was no Porkistan free pushtunistan balochistan sindh kashmir jai hind 🇦🇫 🇮🇳
Afghan is an ancient tribe who speaks Pashto, Pakistan is an artificial British made country to divide and rule over following tribes
P.anjabi
A.fghans
K.ashmiris
Istan is land or geography in Persian.
K.ashmiris
Wonderful, wonderful. Beautiful historic photos. Great script and narration. Great job!
Thank you so much!
A heartfelt thanks from a second-generation Pakistani-Australian on taking the effort to research this part of history. Cheers!
Thank you so much for the kind words.
To the many questions why they were all called Afghans: in those days there was no Pakistan. Pashtuns and Baloch in today's Pakistan had been part of Afghanistan. Some will argue the now Pakistani parts were under British rule before they set up Pakistan BUT these people didnt consider themselves British. There are stories of others having gone to the US, and while some say they were theoretically British subjects, they identified themselves as Afghan on docements and otherwise. The fact the British declared those lands theirs, didn't change these people's identity for themselves, hence why they were known as Afghans.
Thank you so much, Yasmin, for taking the time to watch and to comment. It was a real honor to be able to help Marie tell her story.
The earliest mention of the name Afghan (Abgân) is by Shapur I of the Sassanid Empire during the 3rd century CE, In the 4th century the word "Afghans/Afghana" (αβγανανο) as a reference to a particular people is mentioned in the Bactrian documents found in Northern Afghanistan.
There was no Pakistan back then it was British India, Durand line was named after an Englishman who was in Indian civil service
Great you made this video my great grandfather was one of the men the British sent over to Australia he never returned
Thank you so much for taking the time to share.
This is terrific!!!!!
Thank you!
The middle of Iran afghanistan and Pakistan is called baluchistan and baluchs are well know as the best cameleers, and the word maarree means cameeler in balochi.
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and share Baluch culture with us.
@@douglasedwardbaum
The families who married to aboriginal families i know them personally,they also build the first mosque in Perth,helped flood people and stayed till all afghan left later Australian Government awarded them with citizenship and lands.
They called Afghan cameleers because those parts were part of Afghan empire in 1800s plus Marree is a word in aboriginal languages
@@kabdul9208
The first fleet of Cameleers arrived in Australia in 1860 and this area where Cameleers brought camels were under the rule of British empire. From 1857 till 1947 the day Pakistan and India got freedom these regions were under british rule not Afghanistan.Please read the history.
@@douglasedwardbaum
Please chnage the history it should have been Baluch Cameleers not Afghans.Thanks 🙏
Great documentary very informative
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch!
This is a great video.
You saved history.
Thank you so much for the kind words.
Beja dervish was from Baloch race of Jakhrani tribe
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Doesn't matter, Pashtuns and baloch are from the same ethnic group. Aryans
Pashtoons,baloch r real afghans
Thank you Muhammad.
Jerry Scott ,son of peter anderson and hanna.he said niazi,s are also in Australia and Turkmenistan. Niazov are there but we're are niazis in Australia.
The children of those Afghans were forcibly taken away by missionaries..
There is, of course, much sadness associated with so many episodes in history. With my film I’ve tried to focus on the great heritage these cameleers and their descendants have brought to Australia.
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Fascinating story!!
Trish, thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment. As an independent filmmaker/storyteller, each view truly counts. If you have others in your social circles you think would enjoy it, please feel free to share the link.
There was no Pakistani back then ??? Balouchi people are also Afghans !! The British divided the brave ethnic groups to divide and conquer … I went to school in Pakistan even their national anthem is in Farsi .
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch. Interesting history, indeed.
It might have been opium that the old boy was smoking but there is a very high possibility it was cannabis as Afghan and Pakistan cannabis is as legendary as thier camels
Thanks for the insights!
@@douglasedwardbaum the cannabis from that region is possibly what Queen Victoria to relieve the menstrual cramps she apparently suffered from...
I don’t think British created Pakistan yet so it was Afghanistan and there was British india I believe
Who's they?
The title is a quote from the interview subject and she was referencing that historically (and incorrectly) all the camel men were lumped by Australians into one ethnic category: Afghans. This has been done often enough over the years that “they” is representative of historical references to these camel men. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Marree is one of the largest tribes in Baluchistan Pakistan. Greetings from Pakistan - Canada. Thanks for sharing this video. Please share what their descendants do presently.
Thank you so much for taking the time to watch. My interactions with Baluch descendants is very limited, but many are fully integrated into Australian life and culture.
Proud Afghan/Pashtun
How do you share bed with abo
what does it means ?
go away bigot
So... There was no integration then either.
Nah... Never worked
These are Baluch Cameleers from Modern day Pakistan.Not Afghans
Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. The title is a quote taken from the interview subject, acknowledging the many ethnicities working camels in Australia were all combined, by white Australians and erroneously, into one descriptor: Afghan. She and the film further go on to list the various cultural groups, Baluch among them (and Baluch is this woman's heritage), who all worked with camels in Australia.
Those afghan didn't cm to for money it just cm to help ppl we do we can but now all been forgotten treat us like no body been racist to them
There are more than 50+ homes of (Indiginous) Aboriginal Baluch cameleers in Perth,Melbourne and South Australia they are not Afghans.The fact is if you ask 1 or 2 people in the ship with capacity of thousands than u will never know where exactly they came from. In all Middle East infact the Arabs knows Baluch people are good camel traders and trainers not Afghans. Many Afghans are not even familar with Camels. The fact is basically these cameleers belongs to Sindh region of Pakistan not Afghanistan.Kindly change the histroy of cameleers and there is enough proof available to change the history but who cares.Thank You
Exactly the point of the film. The title is a quote taken from Marie, the interview subject, who said the government didn’t know where any of these folks were from, “They called them all Afghans.”
@@douglasedwardbaum
Thank you for sharing this video,if i am not mistaken,one of the marie is or were the grand children of famous camel driver ...from Mount Magnet (Badimaya yamatji tribe) coz they cameleers married to yamatji tribes.Thank you Baum for sharing this video.Stay Blessed
You are dead wrong about your version of the history the Pashtoon nomads are cameleers and pardon my ignorance in 1838 Pakistan didn’t exist at all .educate yourself about your history 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🇦🇫🇦🇫🇦🇫
Problem with you people from the subcontinent is that you immediately become ethnic & tribal, no matter where in the world you live. The Raj first got the cameleers from Rajasthan, but later on, they changed to 'Afghans'. Now these Afghans were 1. Afghans, Suleiman khel kuchis, the graves still being there in Australia 2. Baloch 3. Punjabis, mostly from lower parts of Jammu & Kashmir, where it joins punjab in present day pakistan
Pakistan or dirty pakis didn’t exist before 1948 I don’t know if know the history of your country or not?kindly learn your history 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂