Brilliant video! I was a superclub DJ for 17 years and was one of the first adopters of playing / mixing MP3's in 2000, we got laughed at back then. Was one of the first to use the original CDJ's and was honoured to have pioneer come to the club one night to ask us what features we'd like to see added. I said, "imagine if you could plug in a USB with all your tracks on it" The industry has changed so much. I haven't dj'd since 2011 but looking to get one of these to "play"
I've been DJing for good 8 years and the flexibility is almost too much to wrap my head around. Great work Pioneer. Just hoping they can do more work on that separation algorithm.
Still hanging on to my Traktor setup, but with new hardware like this and the Rane Four coming out, it gets harder every day not to switch! Love the stems workflow on this and the Rane Four - amazing creative potential. Thanks for another awesome vid Mojaxx! 🙌
I actually switched to Virtual DJ because their Stems are the best at the moment and they eventually become compatible with all of the controllers and hardware in the market. I love traktor and wish they would partner with 3rd party providers such as Pioneer and Denon but it just doesn't seem like it's going to happen so now I use VDJ and Rekordbox and moved on from Traktor. The only thing I miss is my remix decks.
@@SantinoP619 There might be a way to do it better. But most of you fail at using it properly anyway, so why worry about it. I can still play effectively on 1200's with a basic mixer not a 72. You guys use lots of this stuff as crutches for your lack of skill.
I love the way you break out all this into easy to follow bits. But you still blew my mind with the stems mapping options. That is going to allow so much awesome flexibility. I can't wait to see what happens as imaginations run with this..
This is honestly the controller I have been waiting for. I got the FLX-6 and was really pleased when it came out, as I feel it was targeted at my skill group, that being decently intermediate. Plenty of pro performance level tools to use, but still simple enough to really learn and get comfortable. But as I have used it more and more, and also used more club style CDJ set ups more and more, I really yearn for those kinds of features on the FLX-6, and this controller fits all of them. Which is really cool. Definitely going to be looking at picking one of these up!
I feel exactly the same. Bought the FLX6 when it came out. Even though it works fine, it feels a bit crippled when used to the pro gear. The fx just work slightly different and become annoying. Also thinking of selling it and throw in (a lot) extra cash and order the FLX 10. It has everything I want and more 😊
I was/am team Serato but switched to Rekordbox because the playlist feature allowed me to leave my laptop behind at a lot of club gigs where I’d always run into a pair of pioneer CDJs. No Serato Face. And the less I have to carry to a gig the better. If I’m playing video which I do a fair bit whilst streaming from home I like the feature set found in Serato Video. You’ve got another banga review video here Mojaxx! ✊🏽
Excellent review, as usual. Ive only ever owned pioneer controllers (4 0r 5 total) After watching this and expecting this to come out later this year, i'm extremely happy I copped the RANE FOUR!
😮 Pioneer is officially a lone survivor pioneer with this FLEX 10 😊 i bet this controller will set the standard for Legendary DJs. 😱🤑 Prion Jo ni good job sir 🤯 thank you 🙏🏼🥵😁🥰
I was a HUGE fan of Pioneer....until the Rane 4 came out. The paddle FX are much better, as well as the implementation of the one button stem split feature. Also, the Oled screens above the pads are a game changer. I can't see myself using another controller without it
Same, I was DDJ-SX, then upgraded to the DDJ100srt after waiting months for it to come, but didnt like the FX workflow, now I've ordered the RANE four... I need to sell my SX and DDJ-1000SRT now!
@@seb4213 that’s funny, I also had a DDJ-SX until my Rane Four arrived last week. Used it for 10 years without any issue! If not for the new Stems, I probably wouldn’t have upgraded it either because it still works like a champ lol
The price increase stings a bit, but it does include the DMX controller, not just stems and new FX. PioneerDJ could have just added the basic stems, but they didn't, they expanded it to the FX panel too, a very nice touch. Also DDJ 1000's have been discontinued.
Thanks for the vid, interesting stuff! I moved from Traktor to Rekordbox about 2 years back. Used Traktor for about 10 years, first with timecode vinyl, then CDs, then CDJs in HID mode. Switched to rekordbox cos HID support for Traktor was missing on a lot of Pioneer CDJs and devices I'd encounter in clubs/at events. Haven't looked back for me Rekordbox works great, I've the DDJ1000 and it's just simple moving between it and HID mode on the CDJs when I'm out. Glad to see this supports Serato too, more open hardware/software is always better. Looks great, but for me the DDJ1000 still does enough so probably won't upgrade.
I've always stayed on Traktor since it came out in the early 2000s. Although it has lagged behind in recent years (at some point it was basically abandonware) it still offers more than enough for my basic DJ needs. Got to say though, stems are finally getting there since Traktor introduced them over a decade ago. I really hope Traktor will come with an update on their stems functionality although I'm afraid that will end up behind their horrible subscription paywall.
Yep, Traktors new subscription model sucks. Also their hardware is starting to feel out of date, so controllers like this Pioneer could make some people jump ship!
@@cloony1 The problem with Traktor is its .always coming "Soon" while other DJ softwares are on their "Toes"...Traktor is on its "Heals" . I have their subscription service and the only tangible thing we got in 9-12 months is a "pattern player" and compression. It seems like they aren't listening to what DJ's want. I will be cancelling my subscription prior to it renewing shortly
@@cloony1 That would be unacceptable. Since they have actually become very useful, stems should be considered now as key functionality within all modern DJ software. Like integration with streaming services was in the past few years. Not just some optional premium paywall feature.
I'm a tech head. I started off with VDJ which I still use from time to time. I have mostly used Traktor since October 2013 but have now been using Rekordbox DJ with a DJM-S7 paired with a set of XDJ-700's or a DDJ-800. I have Serato as well but have only used it when using another DJ's setup from time to time. Traktor is still my favorite. VDJ is like the swiss army knife of the DJ software world and has saved my bacon on quite a few occasions. Rekordbox is good, but there are a few quirks I hope they figure out that I plan on posting about in the Pioneer DJ forums.
I’ve recently started using Traktor DVS and found it more reliable than RB DVS, the program and library management to be less user friendly than RB. What quirks do you find with RB?
@@craigbishop4644 the biggest one there is relates to sync. RB assumes when you sync two tracks together that the user wants to make the one track as fast or slow as the original BPM of the track the user syncs to it. The software then changes the pitch range automatically. SO if you want to go from a track playing at 100 BPM to a track playing at 126 BPM the software changes the pitch range to "WIDE." unless the user is aware or is looking at the screen to see this change, as soon as you move the tempo fader the BPM goes absolutely wild! Trakltor does not do this. It stays at the range set and never changes no matter what. I find this feature behavior in RB very strange. VDJ, Traktor , and Serato do not do this. They behave the same versus RB. It's irritating to say the least. There are a few threads about it in the Pioneer DJ forums.
Was on Traktor for 7 years but moved to Rekordbox in 2017 with the launch of the RX2. Used to play in export mode with pro dj link but fully moved to USB in 2018
This looks dope! I started with VDJ cause somebody gave it to me. Got good with that but as I started getting more professional DJ friends I saw ALL of them used Serato so I naturally joined them and have not looked back!!! The only way outside of Serato that I would want to get better with us just CDJs straight up with the mixer. Passed that ain’t nothing touching Serato in my mind lol
In my case i started on vdj, tried serato and went right back cause serato just wasn't as reliable in a few ways for me. Today VDJ has the best stems .... and if it was added to the vid when the comparisons were made it would hv shown it. Serato has some catchin up to do there but as for rekordbox stems... it's worse.
I still use VDJ there is no advantage to Serato that sounds like you bought because others had it. VDJ is very much the go to software for working DJ's. It does video before the others added it, Karaoke and DVS. It has a great stems engine. That is fine until I see some better examples than I've seen it's not that important. Most of you need to work on your craft more than adding more technology. I have been DJ'ing since 1986, do the math.
Agreed. I have the free version of rekordbox just to analyze my files for when I'm playing out on a system where they have rekordbox decks. Otherwise I use serato for my personal use and have all the features I need without having to continuously pay like I would with rekordbox. It looks like you can't even record your mixes with rekordbox unless you're in one of the pay categories. For that alone I'll stick with serato
@@dj4monie I’m happy it’s working for you. I moved over because Serato was, and really still is, the professional standard and I liked it better lol. Rekordbox (program) is the other standard at this point too for laptop DJing. I have nothing against VDJ but I have never seen anyone use it in any situation other than bedroom DJing and very small events. It’s like the google pixel of the DJ world: Actually pretty good, may have features first, but only a select few really care about it. Serato did an Apple with the stems and didn’t do it first but did it better when they debuted it. Again, this is the opinion from a DJ in Atlanta, GA whose been spinning from 2007. Your area may vary.
Serato to Engine to Traktor for me. I was looking for my perfect setup having tried controllers and standalone and went down the separates route. I now have xone 96 mixer, 2 turntables and 2 X1 MK2 controllers. I wasn’t precious about software, rather the hardware was the key decision for me.
Wow! Great review and love that Pioneer FLX 10 hit the right note. When I started DJing, I use Virtual DJ on the WEGO 4. That was my first controller. I like with VDJ was doing. It was a great software to use if you are learning the basics. I knew if I wanted to play out using the pro DJ gear I had to use Rekorbox. I upgraded to the DDJ 400 for that purpose. As much as Serato and other DJ software are improving, I prefer to stick with RB. I have been using it since my upgrade to the DDJ 400 and currently using the DDJ800. I wonder if Pioneer tends on upgrading it.
@@shadie2k there never will be. People have to face the fact that the Opus is the XDJ-XZ2! Pioneer want Djs to believe it's not because of the tremendous backlash they got. As long as the 4 CDJ/DJM combo exists, they will NEVER do a similar layout controller which can substitute that.
Best review for FLX10 on here, thank you. I have a rev7 sitting in the box which i'll be replacing with this as i need the additional channels and the iso stem eq feature is vital for me.
flx-10 make me get a DDJ-1000 even more then ever , it feels kinda gimmicky , hope everyone buy flx-10 and ddj 1000 prices goes down :D and as always thnks for the great video man
I recently switched from djay pro to serato mainly because I wanted to use the rane 4. The work flow is similar but I do miss being able to use multiple streaming platforms at the same time and adding streaming tracks to my crates hopefully these features will eventually come to serato but I can see myself switching back if djay starts fully supporting the rane 4.
Great review Mojaxx. Started on TSP since the beginning and moved to Serato Live about 6 years ago due to equipment compatibility issues at the clubs/bars that I was resident at. Now I’m selling my 1000srt and getting this thanks to ur recommendation. Still love the Z2 mixer and DVS of Traktor tho. Rane MK2 tables seems to drift quite often
After just buying a 1000 SRT after waiting 9 months its frustrating to see a new replacement for that controller come out so soon. Although after watching your video apart from more Stems functionality im struggling to see what more the FLX10 can offer over my 1000SRT. Something to ponder for now but i'm holding off upgrading
Better sound quality would be the only other reason that really matters I think (which for me, is a pretty big deal) The ddj 1000/SRT doesn't sound very good, so if they made a big improvement there, that should be worth the extra couple hundo for ya. But on the other side, USB B is way more secure than USB C inputs. If your USB C cable gets moved a little too hard, it can disconnect way too easy and that's a total party killer.
Your review and comparison showing the diff in sound quality w stems amazing that’s what I needed to better understand. So question. You mentioned Pioneer needing to improve their separation engine. Is it fair to assume, that work would happen and improvements could show up on updates of RBX?
I went from serato to Engine because I like standalone systems (sc6000) and denon has continuously given us major updates to the software so I’m always excited to see what gets added lol
@ntokozohlatshwayo165 You can laugh all you like. I own the Infinity license, so there's no real valid point in switching to another software like Serato....which I have tried out a couple times & I didn't care for it. In the end, it comes down to personal preference & I always choose Virtual DJ. It's just better, especially with stems processing 😉👍
This is getting closer to what I'm looking for. Still not happy with the lack of Flip controls from within serato. Would have loved scratch bank. Still prefer capacitive touch jogs, but it seems a solid competitor to the rane 4.
Great review Mojaxx. Thanks for the stems demo on both platforms. The price great! Have you had a chance to play on a decent sound system with it? Hopefully the sound card is great. I used Traktor before I switched to serato. Their Stems were the bests I ever heard. They used a different Audio format for them. However, if you made Traktor Stems yourself, it required 3rd party software. The results were shotty at best in my opinion. I’m sure rekordbox will tighten up their stems algorithm. Will be interesting to watch it all play out between different dj software, now that rekordbox is in the mix. (No pun intended)
Serato stems are great, VDJ is ahead though (but required a GPU for live work). What I'd love to see is a format where stems can be precomputed by whatever software and read by rekordbox/serato as a standard. Flac has 5.1 and 7.1 formats for surround, so basically 4 stems could fit in the 7.1 format. Just needs to be decoded correctly. That way it doesn't require heavy CPU.
I have been rekordbox user since I started. First I had a ddj-400, but I got a Denon DJ Prime Go instead now, however, still using rekordbox as source because it in my opinion has the best library management (I use tagging and intelligent playlists associated with the tags). I love the Prime Go and that it can read rekordbox library, use streaming services, run engine lighting etc, but effects arent great and I would like something to scratch on comfortably as well. FLX10 could be the alternative controller for me.
I think the only real reason I would sell my 1000SRT is if Sound Switch adds the FLX10 as a supported DMX controller, the rest of the upgrades are nice, especially the sound, jog display view, and jog response. But the rest is basically the same, either way I do want to try it out my self, maybe then I´ll want to just change to the FLX10.
Great vid as always thanx Mojaxx! I've been a long time Serato (Denon) user who recently upgraded to the Pioneer DDJ RX3 & Reckordbox. It was a head fuck trying to learn & navigate Reckordbox which I did but found it personally cluttered and overwhelming. I've sine sold that unit and gone back to using my Denon MC4000 as I like the simplicity yet power of Serato. I think when I do upgrade next it might well be the Rane 4 or I love the look and feel of the Denon SC5000/6000 perhaps with a rotary mixer...!?
Great review as always...I use a DDJ1000 with VDJ 2023 (18 years now with this software) I'm thinking is it worth me selling mine and buying the Flex10? I do like the look of the box, The Opus Prime is outta my league sadley.
Exactly. The only way I'm upgrading my controller is to be able to use a 4 channel one without a laptop. Pioneer has what seems like a wedding dj controller that is a 4 channel standalone. Maybe that's their entry to work out the bugs before they bring it into the real club performance controllers. So I can't see myself getting this when I'm sure a standalone version is right around the corner.
Im starting and want to be able to play in the clubs Equipment but buying cdj3000 is out of my budget so what is better? And xdj xz or this one with an ipad ?
I switched last year from Traktor to Denon Engine IOS and their standalone controllers. Mostly due to the convenience of not using a computer and for their music streaming capability over wifi. Traktor is still lacking features compared to the competition and is falling behind all the other DJ software.
The success or at the very least the initial success would be heavily dependent on how well the RB and Serato features would be integrated Pioneer most likely knew that their version of stems was not on par with serato and VDJ and by making two separate controllers would likely highlight that even more. The RB stems to my knowledge have not been widely advertised so if I was an RB user and purchased this controller would have been annoyed at how far behind RB stems currently are unlike the opus the flx 10 has less computing power thus it is a worry that updates to bring the RB stems more upto date could take months if not years given that VDJ and Serato will only continue to improve it not to mention Engine DJ is yet to throw their hand in and Engine has evolved so quickly it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Engine could be a stems front runner. This controller looks more cheap than the 1000srt in my view not a fan of the change to jog wheel edge, however pioneer will sell a lot of these controllers and i think if you’re a serato user you will be the happier compared to a RB at launch.
Yo, what song is playing here kinda catchy, and btw, the stems are cool but the execution rn is kinda wonky especially in the software side, but hopefully they'll get to work on the improvements
Gr8 vid & thnx from Toronto. This will be my upgrade from my current Numark NVii to this is huge step up. Thanx 4 the goods, bads & ugly on this controller, I think it will be my 2023 purchase. Just a little disappointed on the DMX & what it's limited to. Guess i'll stay with the DMX controller.
Very nice hardware I almost feel that this would be the next step up for me but using DJ808's sequencer is still a huge addon so hopefully a future upgrade from Roland to introduce stems in the future.
I could listen to Mojaxx read an old phonebook and he'd still put me in a good mood
Lets go kraken
Brilliant video! I was a superclub DJ for 17 years and was one of the first adopters of playing / mixing MP3's in 2000, we got laughed at back then. Was one of the first to use the original CDJ's and was honoured to have pioneer come to the club one night to ask us what features we'd like to see added. I said, "imagine if you could plug in a USB with all your tracks on it" The industry has changed so much. I haven't dj'd since 2011 but looking to get one of these to "play"
Wow! I’m glad the 1000 srt’s successor is finally here, and with notable improvements. Those stems effects workflows are dope!
Just came here to say I’m such a fan of this channel and all the hard work you do Mojaxx. I appreciate you man. Love your vids
🙏
@@Mojaxx easily the best dj gear reviews on youtube. no contest
@@lxxwj DigitalDJTips also release objective and good stuff. But Mojaxx is great, too.
Both channels rock.
Agreed! When new gear is coming out, I always look forward to Mojaxx' reviews and final thoughts. He's help me make decisions on what kit to get next.
@@Mojaxx do you know if Serato FXs are available (as post-fader) on this controller?
Damn, this is a wonderful bit of kit. Time to upgrade the DDJ-1000 and wait for RB to improve the algorithm
I've been DJing for good 8 years and the flexibility is almost too much to wrap my head around. Great work Pioneer. Just hoping they can do more work on that separation algorithm.
use vdj or serato
Eight years and you're confused? Try 34 years for me, Djing since 1989.
I’m still on Pioneer DDJ SX - did a gig last Saturday/ and I’m now looking to upgrade/ was looking at REV 7- or this FLX10
@@djgettsom7879 I have a rev seven it’s absolutely terrible get this unit or go back in time and pick up the pioneer SZ. That is my favorite
Went from Traktor to Engine when I bought sc6000ms. Love the simplicity and the streaming.
Both shite compared to Rekordbox & Serato.
@@TheFunkloft You're shite compared to anyone.
@@TheFunkloft Youre shite compared to everyone.
Off topic but mojaxx is looking really good nowadays. I want to do whatever he’s doing.
Keto diet FTW!
Mojaxx you're a don. Wasn't too bothered about Stems before but your demo here has changed my mind, I've all sorts of ideas now.
Still hanging on to my Traktor setup, but with new hardware like this and the Rane Four coming out, it gets harder every day not to switch! Love the stems workflow on this and the Rane Four - amazing creative potential.
Thanks for another awesome vid Mojaxx! 🙌
I actually switched to Virtual DJ because their Stems are the best at the moment and they eventually become compatible with all of the controllers and hardware in the market. I love traktor and wish they would partner with 3rd party providers such as Pioneer and Denon but it just doesn't seem like it's going to happen so now I use VDJ and Rekordbox and moved on from Traktor. The only thing I miss is my remix decks.
I'm right there with you. I was so ready to leave Traktor then I got into using 4 Band eq and now 3 band mixing is boring to me.
Watch Traktor do stems separation better than SERATO and VDJ.
@@SantinoP619 There might be a way to do it better. But most of you fail at using it properly anyway, so why worry about it.
I can still play effectively on 1200's with a basic mixer not a 72. You guys use lots of this stuff as crutches for your lack of skill.
Fully agreed
I love the way you break out all this into easy to follow bits. But you still blew my mind with the stems mapping options. That is going to allow so much awesome flexibility. I can't wait to see what happens as imaginations run with this..
This is honestly the controller I have been waiting for. I got the FLX-6 and was really pleased when it came out, as I feel it was targeted at my skill group, that being decently intermediate. Plenty of pro performance level tools to use, but still simple enough to really learn and get comfortable. But as I have used it more and more, and also used more club style CDJ set ups more and more, I really yearn for those kinds of features on the FLX-6, and this controller fits all of them. Which is really cool. Definitely going to be looking at picking one of these up!
I feel exactly the same. Bought the FLX6 when it came out. Even though it works fine, it feels a bit crippled when used to the pro gear. The fx just work slightly different and become annoying. Also thinking of selling it and throw in (a lot) extra cash and order the FLX 10. It has everything I want and more 😊
Finally Reckordbox and Serato DJ support!
I was/am team Serato but switched to Rekordbox because the playlist feature allowed me to leave my laptop behind at a lot of club gigs where I’d always run into a pair of pioneer CDJs. No Serato Face. And the less I have to carry to a gig the better. If I’m playing video which I do a fair bit whilst streaming from home I like the feature set found in Serato Video. You’ve got another banga review video here Mojaxx! ✊🏽
Started with Torq, then moved to Traktor, finally finished with rekordbox as it made my life easier to have everything in one place.
Pioneer always killing it love the 4 channels
Pioneer Just made the Best "DJ CONTROLLER" in the world! The fact that it uses both Sodtwares make it so much more valuable! 😳❤️
Another solid overview MOJAX
Well done pioneer dj the flex 10 is an all round controller for all dj softwear available for stems even mapping for traktor
Excellent review, as usual. Ive only ever owned pioneer controllers (4 0r 5 total) After watching this and expecting this to come out later this year, i'm extremely happy I copped the RANE FOUR!
Glad I waited for this . I’m putting in my order today !.. Excellent review by the way .
😮 Pioneer is officially a lone survivor pioneer with this FLEX 10 😊 i bet this controller will set the standard for Legendary DJs. 😱🤑 Prion Jo ni good job sir 🤯 thank you 🙏🏼🥵😁🥰
My DDJ-1000 Rekordbox backorder got cancelled - I'm stoked for this upgrade! The FX on the stems is a massive advantage
The stretch effect would work well on certain breakdowns. Be great for Drum N Bass music.
I was a HUGE fan of Pioneer....until the Rane 4 came out. The paddle FX are much better, as well as the implementation of the one button stem split feature. Also, the Oled screens above the pads are a game changer. I can't see myself using another controller without it
Same, I was DDJ-SX, then upgraded to the DDJ100srt after waiting months for it to come, but didnt like the FX workflow, now I've ordered the RANE four... I need to sell my SX and DDJ-1000SRT now!
@@seb4213 that’s funny, I also had a DDJ-SX until my Rane Four arrived last week. Used it for 10 years without any issue! If not for the new Stems, I probably wouldn’t have upgraded it either because it still works like a champ lol
This is it! This is the one!
Great review - I jumped the gun on the opus quad, would’ve considered this one instead.
Thx Dj Good tutorial. I was in-between the Flx10 and the RX3 . .
The price increase stings a bit, but it does include the DMX controller, not just stems and new FX. PioneerDJ could have just added the basic stems, but they didn't, they expanded it to the FX panel too, a very nice touch.
Also DDJ 1000's have been discontinued.
Thanks for the vid, interesting stuff! I moved from Traktor to Rekordbox about 2 years back. Used Traktor for about 10 years, first with timecode vinyl, then CDs, then CDJs in HID mode. Switched to rekordbox cos HID support for Traktor was missing on a lot of Pioneer CDJs and devices I'd encounter in clubs/at events. Haven't looked back for me Rekordbox works great, I've the DDJ1000 and it's just simple moving between it and HID mode on the CDJs when I'm out. Glad to see this supports Serato too, more open hardware/software is always better. Looks great, but for me the DDJ1000 still does enough so probably won't upgrade.
I've always stayed on Traktor since it came out in the early 2000s. Although it has lagged behind in recent years (at some point it was basically abandonware) it still offers more than enough for my basic DJ needs. Got to say though, stems are finally getting there since Traktor introduced them over a decade ago. I really hope Traktor will come with an update on their stems functionality although I'm afraid that will end up behind their horrible subscription paywall.
Stem separation for Traktor coming soon, powerd by izotope! But it will only come for premium subscription
Yep, Traktors new subscription model sucks. Also their hardware is starting to feel out of date, so controllers like this Pioneer could make some people jump ship!
@@cloony1 The problem with Traktor is its .always coming "Soon" while other DJ softwares are on their "Toes"...Traktor is on its "Heals" . I have their subscription service and the only tangible thing we got in 9-12 months is a "pattern player" and compression. It seems like they aren't listening to what DJ's want. I will be cancelling my subscription prior to it renewing shortly
Yes,I'm a traktor user ,if they don't release new hardware this year I will have to jump ship
@@cloony1 That would be unacceptable. Since they have actually become very useful, stems should be considered now as key functionality within all modern DJ software. Like integration with streaming services was in the past few years. Not just some optional premium paywall feature.
I'm a tech head. I started off with VDJ which I still use from time to time. I have mostly used Traktor since October 2013 but have now been using Rekordbox DJ with a DJM-S7 paired with a set of XDJ-700's or a DDJ-800. I have Serato as well but have only used it when using another DJ's setup from time to time. Traktor is still my favorite. VDJ is like the swiss army knife of the DJ software world and has saved my bacon on quite a few occasions. Rekordbox is good, but there are a few quirks I hope they figure out that I plan on posting about in the Pioneer DJ forums.
I’ve recently started using Traktor DVS and found it more reliable than RB DVS, the program and library management to be less user friendly than RB.
What quirks do you find with RB?
@@craigbishop4644 the biggest one there is relates to sync. RB assumes when you sync two tracks together that the user wants to make the one track as fast or slow as the original BPM of the track the user syncs to it. The software then changes the pitch range automatically. SO if you want to go from a track playing at 100 BPM to a track playing at 126 BPM the software changes the pitch range to "WIDE." unless the user is aware or is looking at the screen to see this change, as soon as you move the tempo fader the BPM goes absolutely wild! Trakltor does not do this. It stays at the range set and never changes no matter what. I find this feature behavior in RB very strange. VDJ, Traktor , and Serato do not do this. They behave the same versus RB. It's irritating to say the least. There are a few threads about it in the Pioneer DJ forums.
Spectacular Controller and Spectacular Video!
Was on Traktor for 7 years but moved to Rekordbox in 2017 with the launch of the RX2. Used to play in export mode with pro dj link but fully moved to USB in 2018
I switched long ago from Stanton Final Scratch to Serato Scratch Live - still rocking timecode vinyl with my Rane 72
Crushing it Mr Mojaxx
Thanks for the Breakdown I’ve seen enough to make a decision!
This looks dope! I started with VDJ cause somebody gave it to me. Got good with that but as I started getting more professional DJ friends I saw ALL of them used Serato so I naturally joined them and have not looked back!!! The only way outside of Serato that I would want to get better with us just CDJs straight up with the mixer. Passed that ain’t nothing touching Serato in my mind lol
TBH Rekordbox makes Serato look like a joke in every way, I'd give it a try....
In my case i started on vdj, tried serato and went right back cause serato just wasn't as reliable in a few ways for me. Today VDJ has the best stems .... and if it was added to the vid when the comparisons were made it would hv shown it. Serato has some catchin up to do there but as for rekordbox stems... it's worse.
I still use VDJ there is no advantage to Serato that sounds like you bought because others had it.
VDJ is very much the go to software for working DJ's. It does video before the others added it, Karaoke and DVS.
It has a great stems engine. That is fine until I see some better examples than I've seen it's not that important.
Most of you need to work on your craft more than adding more technology.
I have been DJ'ing since 1986, do the math.
Agreed.
I have the free version of rekordbox just to analyze my files for when I'm playing out on a system where they have rekordbox decks. Otherwise I use serato for my personal use and have all the features I need without having to continuously pay like I would with rekordbox. It looks like you can't even record your mixes with rekordbox unless you're in one of the pay categories. For that alone I'll stick with serato
@@dj4monie I’m happy it’s working for you. I moved over because Serato was, and really still is, the professional standard and I liked it better lol. Rekordbox (program) is the other standard at this point too for laptop DJing. I have nothing against VDJ but I have never seen anyone use it in any situation other than bedroom DJing and very small events.
It’s like the google pixel of the DJ world: Actually pretty good, may have features first, but only a select few really care about it. Serato did an Apple with the stems and didn’t do it first but did it better when they debuted it.
Again, this is the opinion from a DJ in Atlanta, GA whose been spinning from 2007. Your area may vary.
Serato to Engine to Traktor for me. I was looking for my perfect setup having tried controllers and standalone and went down the separates route. I now have xone 96 mixer, 2 turntables and 2 X1 MK2 controllers. I wasn’t precious about software, rather the hardware was the key decision for me.
Wow! Great review and love that Pioneer FLX 10 hit the right note. When I started DJing, I use Virtual DJ on the WEGO 4. That was my first controller. I like with VDJ was doing. It was a great software to use if you are learning the basics. I knew if I wanted to play out using the pro DJ gear I had to use Rekorbox. I upgraded to the DDJ 400 for that purpose. As much as Serato and other DJ software are improving, I prefer to stick with RB. I have been using it since my upgrade to the DDJ 400 and currently using the DDJ800. I wonder if Pioneer tends on upgrading it.
Another quality review from the best in the biz!!! Thank you brother 🤙🏻 hanging out for an xz2 to replace my xz ! COME ON PIONEER DJ!!!
with the opus just dropping doubt there will be an xz 2 anytime soon
@@shadie2k there never will be. People have to face the fact that the Opus is the XDJ-XZ2! Pioneer want Djs to believe it's not because of the tremendous backlash they got. As long as the 4 CDJ/DJM combo exists, they will NEVER do a similar layout controller which can substitute that.
Wicked! great video as always.
Hey mojaxx, you look like you lost a lot of weight. Mad respect! Thanks for the reviews!
the best honest review ever!!!! respect!
Best review for FLX10 on here, thank you. I have a rev7 sitting in the box which i'll be replacing with this as i need the additional channels and the iso stem eq feature is vital for me.
flx-10 make me get a DDJ-1000 even more then ever , it feels kinda gimmicky , hope everyone buy flx-10 and ddj 1000 prices goes down :D and as always thnks for the great video man
Great review - be is it the same dimensions as the DDJ-1000?
It’s slightly bigger. Not much.
Good review...and I have to say your voice is very pleasant to listen to
Again... Superb Video and comparison in terms of Stems!
I recently switched from djay pro to serato mainly because I wanted to use the rane 4. The work flow is similar but I do miss being able to use multiple streaming platforms at the same time and adding streaming tracks to my crates hopefully these features will eventually come to serato but I can see myself switching back if djay starts fully supporting the rane 4.
Done, I'm buying one!
Can´t wait to get mine!
Great review Mojaxx. Started on TSP since the beginning and moved to Serato Live about 6 years ago due to equipment compatibility issues at the clubs/bars that I was resident at. Now I’m selling my 1000srt and getting this thanks to ur recommendation. Still love the Z2 mixer and DVS of Traktor tho. Rane MK2 tables seems to drift quite often
Great video sounds great audio DJ music 👍
After just buying a 1000 SRT after waiting 9 months its frustrating to see a new replacement for that controller come out so soon. Although after watching your video apart from more Stems functionality im struggling to see what more the FLX10 can offer over my 1000SRT. Something to ponder for now but i'm holding off upgrading
Facts. They are cannibalising themselves!
Better sound quality would be the only other reason that really matters I think (which for me, is a pretty big deal) The ddj 1000/SRT doesn't sound very good, so if they made a big improvement there, that should be worth the extra couple hundo for ya.
But on the other side, USB B is way more secure than USB C inputs. If your USB C cable gets moved a little too hard, it can disconnect way too easy and that's a total party killer.
Getting both rekordbox and serato compatibility is nice
@@johnnyvergonathey both have the same soundcard
Would loveeee to see a comparison between this and the Rane Four!🙌🙌🫶🫶
Your review and comparison showing the diff in sound quality w stems amazing that’s what I needed to better understand. So question. You mentioned Pioneer needing to improve their separation engine. Is it fair to assume, that work would happen and improvements could show up on updates of RBX?
I went from serato to Engine because I like standalone systems (sc6000) and denon has continuously given us major updates to the software so I’m always excited to see what gets added lol
I order my flex 10 is coming next week I'm excited
現時点で、この動画はflx10の最も詳細な解説であることは間違いありません。素晴らしい
I've been a Virtual DJ user for many years now & do not see myself switching to something else anytime soon......if ever 👍🤘
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ntokozohlatshwayo165 You can laugh all you like. I own the Infinity license, so there's no real valid point in switching to another software like Serato....which I have tried out a couple times & I didn't care for it. In the end, it comes down to personal preference & I always choose Virtual DJ. It's just better, especially with stems processing 😉👍
This is getting closer to what I'm looking for. Still not happy with the lack of Flip controls from within serato. Would have loved scratch bank. Still prefer capacitive touch jogs, but it seems a solid competitor to the rane 4.
Great review Mojaxx. Thanks for the stems demo on both platforms. The price great! Have you had a chance to play on a decent sound system with it? Hopefully the sound card is great. I used Traktor before I switched to serato. Their Stems were the bests I ever heard. They used a different Audio format for them. However, if you made Traktor Stems yourself, it required 3rd party software. The results were shotty at best in my opinion. I’m sure rekordbox will tighten up their stems algorithm. Will be interesting to watch it all play out between different dj software, now that rekordbox is in the mix. (No pun intended)
Serato stems are great, VDJ is ahead though (but required a GPU for live work). What I'd love to see is a format where stems can be precomputed by whatever software and read by rekordbox/serato as a standard. Flac has 5.1 and 7.1 formats for surround, so basically 4 stems could fit in the 7.1 format. Just needs to be decoded correctly. That way it doesn't require heavy CPU.
You look great an inspiration to all Mojaxx keep it up
Love your work. But that song though, haha. Cheers Mojaxx!
I have been rekordbox user since I started. First I had a ddj-400, but I got a Denon DJ Prime Go instead now, however, still using rekordbox as source because it in my opinion has the best library management (I use tagging and intelligent playlists associated with the tags). I love the Prime Go and that it can read rekordbox library, use streaming services, run engine lighting etc, but effects arent great and I would like something to scratch on comfortably as well. FLX10 could be the alternative controller for me.
Great video Chris
Going to order me one of these today!
I think the only real reason I would sell my 1000SRT is if Sound Switch adds the FLX10 as a supported DMX controller, the rest of the upgrades are nice, especially the sound, jog display view, and jog response. But the rest is basically the same, either way I do want to try it out my self, maybe then I´ll want to just change to the FLX10.
Thanks for this super detailed video 😮🔥💜
I still rock with the SRT. I’ll wait a bit more for a big change.
i got the rev 7 wonder how this compares sure its a beast but no more new controllers for me
Thank you! 🌈
im trying to move from virtual DJ to Serato DJ Pro finding it difficult
Great vid as always thanx Mojaxx! I've been a long time Serato (Denon) user who recently upgraded to the Pioneer DDJ RX3 & Reckordbox. It was a head fuck trying to learn & navigate Reckordbox which I did but found it personally cluttered and overwhelming. I've sine sold that unit and gone back to using my Denon MC4000 as I like the simplicity yet power of Serato. I think when I do upgrade next it might well be the Rane 4 or I love the look and feel of the Denon SC5000/6000 perhaps with a rotary mixer...!?
Great review as always...I use a DDJ1000 with VDJ 2023 (18 years now with this software) I'm thinking is it worth me selling mine and buying the Flex10? I do like the look of the box, The Opus Prime is outta my league sadley.
Great review Mojaxx are the USB C’s Powered?
Great review! Thanks!
Not gonna lie, I replayed this review just to hear the track Mojaxx used again.
How does it compare to the Rane Four for you mojaxx?
works great with vdj too.
Looks great. Thanks for video. So question is FLX10 or Rane four?
It’s got SIMON (1980’s childrens toy) inbuilt! I’m old enough to remember what simon looked like but can’t remember ever playing with it
Soo the quesion is... Rane Four or Pioneer FLX10 ? and why
Now if we have this controller as stand alone it would be a killer
Exactly. The only way I'm upgrading my controller is to be able to use a 4 channel one without a laptop. Pioneer has what seems like a wedding dj controller that is a 4 channel standalone. Maybe that's their entry to work out the bugs before they bring it into the real club performance controllers. So I can't see myself getting this when I'm sure a standalone version is right around the corner.
Im starting and want to be able to play in the clubs Equipment but buying cdj3000 is out of my budget so what is better? And xdj xz or this one with an ipad ?
Quality, useful review
I've been waiting for months to order this and now I'm deciding whether to order right now or not...
Ordered and on its way...
EVP with the vocals👀
also works amazing on vdj. esp the stems.
How does this flex 10 compare to Rane four in terms of hardware build quality, overall sound quality and phono preamps?
@17:53 Has Serato fix this dual deck mode issue? So you don't need todo this copy trick? Anyone know if it's possible on another controller.
I switched last year from Traktor to Denon Engine IOS and their standalone controllers. Mostly due to the convenience of not using a computer and for their music streaming capability over wifi. Traktor is still lacking features compared to the competition and is falling behind all the other DJ software.
I did the same. And waiting for traktor stems so as I can integrate the two.
The success or at the very least the initial success would be heavily dependent on how well the RB and Serato features would be integrated Pioneer most likely knew that their version of stems was not on par with serato and VDJ and by making two separate controllers would likely highlight that even more. The RB stems to my knowledge have not been widely advertised so if I was an RB user and purchased this controller would have been annoyed at how far behind RB stems currently are unlike the opus the flx 10 has less computing power thus it is a worry that updates to bring the RB stems more upto date could take months if not years given that VDJ and Serato will only continue to improve it not to mention Engine DJ is yet to throw their hand in and Engine has evolved so quickly it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Engine could be a stems front runner. This controller looks more cheap than the 1000srt in my view not a fan of the change to jog wheel edge, however pioneer will sell a lot of these controllers and i think if you’re a serato user you will be the happier compared to a RB at launch.
My Flex 10 will only work with Rekordbox and not Serato DJ Pro. Can someone help me out with this?
Update?
Yo, what song is playing here kinda catchy, and btw, the stems are cool but the execution rn is kinda wonky especially in the software side, but hopefully they'll get to work on the improvements
It’s Tempo by DJ Polique on DJcity Records.
Great review as ever but it's all getting a bit complicated.
Is the auto looping better for Serato on this one? Can you change the beats without the awkward shift pressing?
Gr8 vid & thnx from Toronto. This will be my upgrade from my current Numark NVii to this is huge step up. Thanx 4 the goods, bads & ugly on this controller, I think it will be my 2023 purchase. Just a little disappointed on the DMX & what it's limited to. Guess i'll stay with the DMX controller.
Very nice hardware I almost feel that this would be the next step up for me but using DJ808's sequencer is still a huge addon so hopefully a future upgrade from Roland to introduce stems in the future.