I didn’t know about the three year fruit tree saying but it’s make so much sense! You explained it perfectly. I definitely have some weeding and fertilizing to do! Thank you so much for providing these very helpful tips! Great content! Dale is a happy camper! 🐕 😊🌱❤️
I'm glad the video could be helpful. The first season isn't a full season at all, so you can't expect much Year 1. Year 2, or the first true full-year, not much is going to happen. It is the following season where we typically see the trees break out, so you can't try and push these trees too hard right away. You can do more harm than good.
Its true I have observed this mnyself, its like are they ever going to grow then year 3 BAM & there's no looking back. Its TRUTH this guy is right on the ball, great info, I learned alot.
The "sleep, creep and leap" applies to perennials. We had an orchard of various fruit trees and they do take 3 to 7 years to bear fruit depending on the variety. Based on experience plums, pears and especially sweet cherries take the longest.
I NEVER considered planting high. I have several yards of super rich mushroom compost from a local mine and two peach trees to start. I watch these videos for hours to find just one ting that will change how I grow forever. Props man.
This made me feel better. I have some fruit trees that are one year old and they are slow growing. I got lots of good information in this video. Thank you.
You're welcome! Fruit trees can take their time. Don't try to force them along too much. We can sometimes kill them with kindness. Make sure they have what they need in terms of food, water and mulch, and they usually will take off in year 2 or 3.
Great video and advice! Very helpful. My family and I have started a small backyard garden! Less than 2 years in our new home and we've completely transformed the backyard into a beautiful garden space. We are beginner gardeners, growing and learning along the way. Recently I started a gardening channel to help encourage others to start growing as well. No time better than now to learn self sufficiency. 💚🌱
Excellent work! The best thing to do is build your food forest slowly and incrementally, chipping away a little at a time. Don't get in too over your head where you can't manage the problems as they come up. It's taken me 3.5 years to get this far, and I probably have another 3 years until I'll get to where I want to be. The journey is most of the fun!
I have to do better with fertilizing and THICK mulching. Did not know I can fertilize the fruit trees that often. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Organic fertilizers are not readily available to the plants. They need to be consumed by worms, bacteria, fungi and other soil biology and excreted back out into the soil to be in forms the plants can use biologically. Therefore, instead of placing a seasonal dump of organic fertilizers on your trees, I prefer to apply smaller doses more regularly so you're constantly keeping that micobiome fed. It's the same logic with keeping a constant compost and mulch layer. That way, there is always organic matter in a state of decay feeding the soil life. I'm not a big fan of seasonal dumps of products, because the soil may eventually deplete before you remember to add more. It's easier to just apply smaller amounts here and there as you have time.
The timming of your videos and me watching have been so incredible. Deep down i know im making mistakes with my citrus trees but it really seems like you need to listen someone else say it to really start listening. I have a mango tree thats been struggling more than the rest of my trees & i know that i need to follow your tips to help him. Its so bad that i think i might have to cut it back a bit to try and see if it gets lively again. Its just that i didnt want to recognize it and start from zero. Anyways, great video and great timming!
I planted fruit trees from fast-growing-trees this summer using the Ellen White method & my trees were throwing blooms a month later (which I trimmed off). I also used a rooting product to encourage root growth & Sea salt - 90 on top of the other fertilizers. Thank you for your great videos!
This is an amazingly informative & useful 'workshop', I'll be out there tomorrow acting upon your great advice. EXCELLENT VIDEO !. Thanks. You are a great teacher. You are so professional in your delivery you could have a show on TV with a sponsor. I know you're too busy. Thanks mate.
I'm getting into the 3rd and 4th year for a bunch of my in ground trees. I'm expecting fairly absurd levels of growth (and that I can tame with a bit of summer pruning). Really hard freezes set us back the first / second year, but last year was an excellent season for growth on a lot of our trees. Many of our trees are now well structured and 6-8' tall (after pruning). Some are going to be a bit of a handful for the first time (easily 10-12' high and nearly as wide). One thing that has helped me be patient is planting trees little by little. You can definitely get burned out if you try to do a ton of trees at once and then have a couple rough seasons. I think I did 8 trees the first year and maybe 7-8 over the next year two years. Only 4-5 this year will definitely keep me from getting too many garden projects going as the rest of the yard fills out. If you're taking a gradual approach to planting, expectations for gradual fruit is pretty reasonable in my opinion. For those in harsh conditions, making sure you have adequate winter protection can definitely help growth. Painting your trunks against sun scald, protecting the trunks against rabbits (voles, etc) and doing stuff to protect against winter desiccation definitely improve the condition your trees kick off growth in the spring. I'd be a little cautious with planting your trees a little too high as the roots are a little more exposed to cold temperatures. With a really thick layer of mulch it can be quite a bit mitigated, though. If you add mulch year after year, you definitely should consider planting them a little high so they don't get too buried by the gradual rise in soil level when the mulch breaks down. I've generally had fruit trees a minimum of 1 zone hardier than where I live, so I'm not super concerned about rootstock damage. I think it can be hard for a lot of folks to determine if they're watering too little or too much. It's fairly easy to check, jam a stake in the ground (rebar, bamboo, etc) and see if it comes out dry or damp. Knowing how much clay, loam or sand is in your soil can really help you understand how best to water. I typically irrigate my fruit trees with drip irrigation and it can be a bit of work to figure out exactly how much water is enough for a tree (I usually estimate it as the evapotranspiration minus average rainfall and then divvy up that water over mostly the growing months). Young trees get maybe 2x that estimate while they're still establishing. Since we have fairly dry winters here, I have to water about once per month while the trees are dormant, which seems to absolutely help with growth.
Thank You. I'm in Florida trying to get a Lime, Lemon and Satsuma Orange up and going. According to the video, water and fertilizer are my issues (not enough of each). My little Satsuma Orange has just a twig after two years in the ground, and the only noticeable growth is a long thorny branch that I have previously cut off, and it keeps coming back.
Thank you for all the awesome information. I planted a a 12” white peach seedling in early June and I was getting worried about it. It’s been hitting over 100° here in northern Utah the past two days
I plant each of my fruit trees in its own individually tailored “guild” which includes a number of different plants that work together as a team. Each item is selected to perform a specific task: SUPPRESSORS keep weeds and grass out of the area from the trunk to the drip line (and farther if you wish) and is interplanted with other items that ATTRACT pollinators and other beneficial insects; as well as plants that REPEL destructive insects (and some animals like: rabbits, deer and squirrels). Other plants provide substantial biomass that can be used as a “chop and drop” MULCH, while others can actually “FIX” (add) Nitrogen to the soil for you. Lastly, ACCUMULATORS, send down deep tap roots that “mine nutrients” from depths that would otherwise be unavailable to your fruit tree(s)… they also break up clay, improving drainage. It may sound pretty crowded, but it doesn’t have to be if your guild members can perform more than one job. For example: Strawberries are Nitrogen FIXERS as well as SUPPRESSORS, whereas Comfrey not only ATTRACTS beneficial insects, it’s also a Nitrogen FIXER, and an ACCUMULATOR; it also provides abundant biomass for MULCH, as well as sets up a powerful rhizome barrier to weeds and grasses.
@@mariap.894 The guild method works in any state or country in the world. You only need to use plant materials that are appropriate for your particular growing zone 👍
Wow! I never considered that my fig trees may be in the "creep" stage. In April of 2021 I planted 2 fig trees in my yard. After experiencing a period of transplant stress, they both put on a couple feet of growth before going dormant in December. In that same month, I purchased an additional fig tree of a different variety and planted in my yard (it was dormant when I received it). This year, I was expecting all 3 trees to break dormancy at least by April since all the fit trees in my neighborhood do so in that month. However, they haven't begun growing buds until May and they are doing so very slowly. I had no idea why they were so late compared to the other fig trees in my neighborhood since I mulch them well, fertilize them well, water them well and they have no weeds to compete with. But I think it is safe to say they are in the sleep-creep stages. I feel better now. Thanks. 👍👍👍
If you plant your new trees the Ellen White way you’ll be eating their fruit the next year and see a tremendous amount of growth ! Agree with the compost mulch covering for anything you grow in the garden!
I'm a bit obsessed with my recent fig/gardening kick that I've been on, so that has my kids rolling their eyes whenever they see me watching "another gardening video". The only exception is your videos. I sometimes notice the kids secretly watching and when I don't notice, I catch them when I hear laughter during "Adventures with Dale". He is quite the star around here!
As always, your discussion on the topic is coherent, concise, and easy to understand. Your channel is a gem for sources of sound information about gardening in general and tree planting in particular. Keep it up.
You can also amend your soil at least 1 ft deep for a hole that is 3 times the pot size. Try adding compost 2 to one into the soil and adding bone meal into the entire hole soil. Mix it in well. My fruit trees give me small fruit on the second year and are going full tilt year 3. It gives your tree a great start to growing out their roots fast. Makes for easy roots growth and plenty of food to grow on. It really makes a difference
I had heard about lighting storms causing major growth on plants and trees, but was told it was an old timers thing.... now i know the science behind it! Thanks for great content.
great video thx. my trees took off exactly like you've explained, but i was terribly worried during the first 18 months or so; and then BOOM!!! I always found this strange until i watched u'r vid! thx againand best wishes .
Perfect timing! Mom has been fretting that her persimmon tree isn't doing anything. But it has only been planted for 2 years, and don't think it was planted properly nor fertilized.
My family started our mini fruit orchard just over two years ago, when we moved to our forever home, in Peyia, Cyprus. Out of us all, only one of us had any experience of growing fruit trees and that was tropical species in a totally different climate. Aside from a few failures along the way, we’re proud of our how we have done and look forward to bumper crops in the next few years and maybe even expanding into a few more species, depending on what the weather does. We find it is becoming increasingly unpredictable, but our trees came through okay after our first major hail storm in the Spring of this year. There are many fruit producers here in Cyprus who were hit much harder than we were.
If they have been struggling for years, my guess is they have a problem with either lack of food or poor soil type. A good spreading of organic fertilizer with a thick compost and mulch layer will surely help. I can't overstate how IMPORTANT the compost and mulch layer is, and I mean a THICK one. It does wonders.
Very informative vlog….I have 10 citrus trees I planted March 21, I’ve taken soil samples put lime and I’m in a slump, trees will not green up or grow….I’ve put down underground irrigation an water twice a week…..some of my new growth I have started look like it has burnt up, I’m scared I’ve fertilized to much!
Thanks for this vid... I have 2 figs I'm growing in 5 gallon pots and 2 peach trees. I'll transplant them next season, I frequent your channel cause it's got a ton of good ideas.
Very sensible and helpful… in England we had a cold spring followed by a drought in 2022. …although I watered new shrubs I lost some I suspect that partly I had not heeled some in properly with small gaps around the pot ball that new roots had difficulty in bridging. Richard
That’s what I love about my Prime Ark Freedom blackberries. They fruit in mere months after planting. You may want to consider them if you’re a berry lover.
Hi I used the Ellen G White method on planting fruit trees. This is the first season and they have grown 2 feet since last year. And I use Miracle-Gro liquid fertilizer every month on them. 1 you need to test your soil and see what it needs ours needs lime. I live In zone 8a heavy clay. Alabama great video.
With some very vigorous trees like figs, this is possible. Figs can grow like absolute beasts right away when planted properly, but an established fig can grow from total dieback to 8 feet tall in one summer, and that's not the norm. My point is that your trees not doing much that first season or two isn't necessarily a problem, and as long as there is slow progress, they are headed in the right direction. If it's been 3 yearsand nothing has happened, you likely have a cultural problem.
New to your channel from the uk. Love how you explain the common sense approach to growing. Fertility is a must for production. If cost is a problem there's lots of home made fertilizers from other plants etc. Like you say a forest is it's on eco system. Nature has it right. Plus if a plant dies that cost seems pretty love than the original cost of the plant if it was bought. Loved your cucumber video too which is how I found you. Looking forward to binge watching your channel. 👍
I think we let it sit on the counter for a couple days and forgot about it. It basically turned into a brick, but Dale didn't care! He still loved it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video man. Found it very helpful. We just got an awesome property in 21 that had 20 total well established fruit trees and grape vines. We are in the process of adding more varieties of fruit trees like apricot, nectarine, persimmon, miniature peach and a few others right now and this video helped guide me allot.
I have very much enjoyed all of your instructional videos. They are easy to follow and quite comprehensive. My question - do you ever use fish fertilizer for more established trees? I know you use it for up potting younger cuttings from the 4x9 tree pots, but how about on trees that are 3-5 years old? Thank You
Bought an orange tree and it's been in the ground about a year and a half now. About 6 months ago I learned about the grass competition and ripped it all out and made a 6ft diameter barrier and covered with mulch. Tree is growing much better now, except it is not growing up. It is growing outwards on all sides, just not up. Should I continue waiting til the third year hoping it grows up instead of out? Thanks for the video. Learned a lot!
Thanks so much! I wondered why my lemon tree hadn't grown. I really appreciate all your knowledge. I'm trying to start a garden here in California. Everything cost so much. Potatoes have almost doubled amongst other veggies.
The price increases are awful. I feel your pain. Fruit trees are a great way to help take the pressure off. I used to buy a bag of lemons and limes every week. I have not bought a single piece of citrus in 6 months! I’ve just had so much production that I don’t need to, anymore. It is some investment getting off the ground, but my produce bills barely exist these days unless I need something specific. It’s great to eat what’s in season. In our climate, we are fortunate enough that something is always growing. Keep at it and in a few years, you won’t believe the progress!
My peach trees in it's 3 year.leap baby leap! How inspirational.i even covered it up during the last frosts we got cause it was starting to bud.even put a heat light in with the little booger. 😂😃
Thank you for all your well explained videos. You have been a great help for us... I have two peach trees. I put them in ground 4 years ago. It's Feb 20th, I'm moving to another property in two weeks. I wanted to plant those trees (they are a gift from my son) in my new property. When is the best time for transplant?? I saw some flower buds already. What about garlic, do you know if garlic can be transplanted?? Thank you!!
I received an apple and a peach tree as a gift about 3 weeks ago. The apple tree has already put out a TON of leaves but the peach tree hasn’t done anything. It’s still green, so I’m hoping it is just a matter of patience until next year! I do have a question though…some of the tips of the limbs on the peach tree appear to be dry. Should I cut down to the green? Or just leave it completely alone? Thanks!
Cut any dead wood from your trees regardless of the time of year. Anything dead or diseased. Clean your clippers with alcohol before cutting and before cutting a different tree. Sanitize clippers often.
Also don't forget the effect of bare root transporting may have on them. I've found a lot of nurseries and big stores pot up trees they've brought in bare rooted so they'll be in that first year even if they're kept in a pot instead of put in ground
Thank you, awesome video. I've had a 3 ft pomegranate tree I planted over 4 years ago and it barely flowered last year but still didn't produce any fruit. We have clay soil here in CA so I added compost when planting, but did not add mulch to the top. I will try that. It's flowering again this year, cross your fingers!! Anything else I can do for the tree?
I have to agree with the gardeners who feel that YOU must spend 100's if not thousands of $$ on mulch, fertilizer, fabric , fruit trees etc. I know all of the above will pay dividends down the line But not many people can spend what you have on setting up a garden. I would wager just your fruit trees cost a lot to put 40 trees in your yard. Some trees are 20 to 50 bucks apiece. Also, isn't putting all that fertilizer just like giving a hormone shot to the plants? It' doesn't seem 'natural'. Thanks for all the info you put forth. I know your garden didn't happen in one year and you have put in a lot of work. So I shouldn't expect my fruits and vegetables to happen in one year. fyi I'm living in E central FL at the beach. It has taken a few years to get a handle on what to plant at what time of year. Nxt year I will plant a lot more of my vegetables in the fall for a Winter crop. No frosts here but the days are so short in Winter that even cherry tomatoes wouldn't turn red until the Sun came back. Keep up the GOOD WORK Dean
You will love those persimmons. They produce a ton of fruit and I have not had any issues with bugs or disease on the 4 I own. They made fruit the 2nd year I had them.
I can't wait for them to fruit. I'm hoping the Giombo flowers this year. Last year, it got creamed by late frost damage, but this year, it made it through undamaged and is really putting on growth.
@@TheMillennialGardener GOOD LUCK! they are susceptible to late spring frost damage. my first 4 trees died that way, my fault didn't really pay attention to weather reports.
Just moved planted fruit trees in April in July we got 2 big peaches that were delicious on one tree. We were shocked …..when the tree was planted it was about 5-6 feet tall. On the plum tree we got only 1 small perfect plum until some kind of bug got it.😮. I hope I am still living in 3 more years to see them really produce fruit. It is very exciting!!!!!!!! 🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳
I’ve had this problem with my fruit trees. Most of them have been planted for 6 years and they are only about 6-7 feet tall but with sparse limbs and leaves. They have only had a very few small apples. I had cedar trees planted near them and they had apple cedar brown spots but have since removed the cedars. This will be the first season without the cedars nearby.
This winter I lost my one year old bud graft nikita’s gift persimmon. It was replanted last spring and I think I over fertilize it. Just found, persimmons don’t like too much fertilizer
My trees were stunted because the soil was nutrient poor. Once I started watering with goat manure tea and mulching with grass, the growth was amazing. That said, I burned one tree with strong compost tea, another - cactus - survived the burn. Learned that lesson.
The ground in my new house is clay and rocks and heavily compacted, it sucks! What's that tea you used? Is it made with fresh manure or is it fermented for a lot of time?
I’m torn on the weed thing. Another theory is other plants near the trunk can have symbiotic relationships-sharing nutrients, ground cover, etc. Unless another plant were to be shading out another tree, that would certainly limit growth. Do you know if there’s any research on orchard productivity with adjacent plants? I believe some call the strategy “guilds”
Tree guilds are a concept popular in permaculture. Essentially, you try to group plants together that all provide benefits to one another, mimicking a natural setting rather than a groomed, manicured appearance. No one is feeding fruit teees that grow in the wild. Google "apple tree guild" for more detail. Companion planting is similar, but often used in veggie gardens. This video details more of an orchard's treatment with the use of fertilizers & the like.
In my experience actually growing fruit trees, weeds will stunt the growth of a fruit tree substantially. Weeding frequently helps the nutrients in the soil go to the fruit tree and not the weeds.
My trees have been in the creeping stage for several years and I wish I'd known about this before. Could mesquite and oak bark be used for mulch? I also have a bunch of decomposing needles from a giant arborvitae that I'd like to used as well. I have a bunch of it from the wood pile that I'd like to use for our fruit, Afghan pines, and oak trees. If not I'm going to have to buy some cedar bark mulch and some Kellogg's Grow mulch from HD, which I'd like to avoid because I've already dumped a ton of money in my not-so-productive vegetable garden. Thanks for another great video!
How did you decide which trees you were planting in pots vs the ground? Also I got an avocado tree and the nursery it came from said to not put it in a pot larger than 10 gallons, do you know why? I just bought a bunch of the 15 gallon nursery pots.
Hi, I planted a fuyu persimmon tree last yr, its on 2nd yr now but you're right I don't see much growth and I getting worried and wanted to move the tree in other place of my property thinking maybe it doesn't like where I planted it but seeing your video gives me hope I will see what happens on its 3rd yr growth. My question is I wanted to prune my tree in half but I'm scared to do it hahaha since its most growth is on top I wanted to grow my tree like the size of your tree into a manageable size. Any advice when is the right time to do it? I live in 9b southern california. Your advice will be so much appreciated thank you! 😊
Thank you very much for providing this information,but why my persimmon tree fruits fall off like 95% on the ground. It is big tree maybe at least 6 years old.
Great video! Now I realize I planted a little deep, about 3 feet. Growth has been slow but all my trees are in their third or fourth year and only the avocado tree has yet to bare fruit. Can I expect that they have at least established themselves enough to survive at a continuous but slow growth rate?
I didn’t know about the three year fruit tree saying but it’s make so much sense! You explained it perfectly. I definitely have some weeding and fertilizing to do! Thank you so much for providing these very helpful tips! Great content! Dale is a happy camper! 🐕 😊🌱❤️
I'm glad the video could be helpful. The first season isn't a full season at all, so you can't expect much Year 1. Year 2, or the first true full-year, not much is going to happen. It is the following season where we typically see the trees break out, so you can't try and push these trees too hard right away. You can do more harm than good.
Thank you so very much! 😊🌱❤️
I was think bout buy a peach tree
But a guy told me it will take five or three before I get peaches are apple on my tree is that true guys
Its true I have observed this mnyself, its like are they ever going to grow then year 3 BAM & there's no looking back. Its TRUTH this guy is right on the ball, great info, I learned alot.
The "sleep, creep and leap" applies to perennials. We had an orchard of various fruit trees and they do take 3 to 7 years to bear fruit depending on the variety.
Based on experience plums, pears and especially sweet cherries take the longest.
What take shorter?
@@veelash3505 Figs and mulberry, and dwarf trees bear fruit the soonest than semi -dwarf or standard trees do.
I NEVER considered planting high. I have several yards of super rich mushroom compost from a local mine and two peach trees to start. I watch these videos for hours to find just one ting that will change how I grow forever. Props man.
Thank you! I've had my fruit trees in pots and after 8months they still don't seem to be growing. But now I know why. Much appreciated!
I see great benefits from the Ellen White planting method. My fruit trees doubled in size in first year!
This made me feel better. I have some fruit trees that are one year old and they are slow growing. I got lots of good information in this video. Thank you.
You're welcome! Fruit trees can take their time. Don't try to force them along too much. We can sometimes kill them with kindness. Make sure they have what they need in terms of food, water and mulch, and they usually will take off in year 2 or 3.
@@TheMillennialGardener sounds great!
Great video and advice! Very helpful. My family and I have started a small backyard garden! Less than 2 years in our new home and we've completely transformed the backyard into a beautiful garden space. We are beginner gardeners, growing and learning along the way. Recently I started a gardening channel to help encourage others to start growing as well. No time better than now to learn self sufficiency. 💚🌱
Excellent work! The best thing to do is build your food forest slowly and incrementally, chipping away a little at a time. Don't get in too over your head where you can't manage the problems as they come up. It's taken me 3.5 years to get this far, and I probably have another 3 years until I'll get to where I want to be. The journey is most of the fun!
@@TheMillennialGardener Thank you for the great advice and gardening tips. I appreciate it. 💚🌱
I have to do better with fertilizing and THICK mulching. Did not know I can fertilize the fruit trees that often. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Organic fertilizers are not readily available to the plants. They need to be consumed by worms, bacteria, fungi and other soil biology and excreted back out into the soil to be in forms the plants can use biologically. Therefore, instead of placing a seasonal dump of organic fertilizers on your trees, I prefer to apply smaller doses more regularly so you're constantly keeping that micobiome fed. It's the same logic with keeping a constant compost and mulch layer. That way, there is always organic matter in a state of decay feeding the soil life. I'm not a big fan of seasonal dumps of products, because the soil may eventually deplete before you remember to add more. It's easier to just apply smaller amounts here and there as you have time.
Best gardening channel by far 👏 👌
Very good explanations. Thank you 🙋🏻♂️ 🌻
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
The timming of your videos and me watching have been so incredible. Deep down i know im making mistakes with my citrus trees but it really seems like you need to listen someone else say it to really start listening. I have a mango tree thats been struggling more than the rest of my trees & i know that i need to follow your tips to help him. Its so bad that i think i might have to cut it back a bit to try and see if it gets lively again. Its just that i didnt want to recognize it and start from zero. Anyways, great video and great timming!
planted some fruit trees last year, this is a really helpful video!!
I planted fruit trees from fast-growing-trees this summer using the Ellen White method & my trees were throwing blooms a month later (which I trimmed off). I also used a rooting product to encourage root growth & Sea salt - 90 on top of the other fertilizers. Thank you for your great videos!
This is an amazingly informative & useful 'workshop', I'll be out there tomorrow acting upon your great advice. EXCELLENT VIDEO !. Thanks. You are a great teacher.
You are so professional in your delivery you could have a show on TV with a sponsor. I know you're too busy. Thanks mate.
You are absolutely my favorite fruit planting teacher! Thank you!
I really appreciate it! I'm glad the videos are helpful.
I'm getting into the 3rd and 4th year for a bunch of my in ground trees. I'm expecting fairly absurd levels of growth (and that I can tame with a bit of summer pruning). Really hard freezes set us back the first / second year, but last year was an excellent season for growth on a lot of our trees. Many of our trees are now well structured and 6-8' tall (after pruning). Some are going to be a bit of a handful for the first time (easily 10-12' high and nearly as wide).
One thing that has helped me be patient is planting trees little by little. You can definitely get burned out if you try to do a ton of trees at once and then have a couple rough seasons. I think I did 8 trees the first year and maybe 7-8 over the next year two years. Only 4-5 this year will definitely keep me from getting too many garden projects going as the rest of the yard fills out. If you're taking a gradual approach to planting, expectations for gradual fruit is pretty reasonable in my opinion.
For those in harsh conditions, making sure you have adequate winter protection can definitely help growth. Painting your trunks against sun scald, protecting the trunks against rabbits (voles, etc) and doing stuff to protect against winter desiccation definitely improve the condition your trees kick off growth in the spring. I'd be a little cautious with planting your trees a little too high as the roots are a little more exposed to cold temperatures. With a really thick layer of mulch it can be quite a bit mitigated, though. If you add mulch year after year, you definitely should consider planting them a little high so they don't get too buried by the gradual rise in soil level when the mulch breaks down. I've generally had fruit trees a minimum of 1 zone hardier than where I live, so I'm not super concerned about rootstock damage.
I think it can be hard for a lot of folks to determine if they're watering too little or too much. It's fairly easy to check, jam a stake in the ground (rebar, bamboo, etc) and see if it comes out dry or damp. Knowing how much clay, loam or sand is in your soil can really help you understand how best to water. I typically irrigate my fruit trees with drip irrigation and it can be a bit of work to figure out exactly how much water is enough for a tree (I usually estimate it as the evapotranspiration minus average rainfall and then divvy up that water over mostly the growing months). Young trees get maybe 2x that estimate while they're still establishing. Since we have fairly dry winters here, I have to water about once per month while the trees are dormant, which seems to absolutely help with growth.
Thank You. I'm in Florida trying to get a Lime, Lemon and Satsuma Orange up and going. According to the video, water and fertilizer are my issues (not enough of each). My little Satsuma Orange has just a twig after two years in the ground, and the only noticeable growth is a long thorny branch that I have previously cut off, and it keeps coming back.
I once grew a Catalpa tree from seed. The first year, it grew twice as tall as I am at 6 ft. You could almost literally see it grow.
Thank you for all the awesome information. I planted a a 12” white peach seedling in early June and I was getting worried about it. It’s been hitting over 100° here in northern Utah the past two days
I plant each of my fruit trees in its own individually tailored “guild” which includes a number of different plants that work together as a team. Each item is selected to perform a specific task: SUPPRESSORS keep weeds and grass out of the area from the trunk to the drip line (and farther if you wish) and is interplanted with other items that ATTRACT pollinators and other beneficial insects; as well as plants that REPEL destructive insects (and some animals like: rabbits, deer and squirrels). Other plants provide substantial biomass that can be used as a “chop and drop” MULCH, while others can actually “FIX” (add) Nitrogen to the soil for you. Lastly, ACCUMULATORS, send down deep tap roots that “mine nutrients” from depths that would otherwise be unavailable to your fruit tree(s)… they also break up clay, improving drainage. It may sound pretty crowded, but it doesn’t have to be if your guild members can perform more than one job. For example: Strawberries are Nitrogen FIXERS as well as SUPPRESSORS, whereas Comfrey not only ATTRACTS beneficial insects, it’s also a Nitrogen FIXER, and an ACCUMULATOR; it also provides abundant biomass for MULCH, as well as sets up a powerful rhizome barrier to weeds and grasses.
rrbb It doesn't sound like you live in Florida, do you?
@@mariap.894 The guild method works in any state or country in the world. You only need to use plant materials that are appropriate for your particular growing zone 👍
Do you think most herb and or flowering plants would work as guilds?
Lay off the adderall breh
@@johnnyhigh1288 😂actually tons of people grow this way.
Wow! I never considered that my fig trees may be in the "creep" stage. In April of 2021 I planted 2 fig trees in my yard. After experiencing a period of transplant stress, they both put on a couple feet of growth before going dormant in December. In that same month, I purchased an additional fig tree of a different variety and planted in my yard (it was dormant when I received it). This year, I was expecting all 3 trees to break dormancy at least by April since all the fit trees in my neighborhood do so in that month. However, they haven't begun growing buds until May and they are doing so very slowly. I had no idea why they were so late compared to the other fig trees in my neighborhood since I mulch them well, fertilize them well, water them well and they have no weeds to compete with. But I think it is safe to say they are in the sleep-creep stages. I feel better now. Thanks. 👍👍👍
I hope you know fig trees grow HUGE ..
My brown turkey fig produced only a few figs year three then several hundred by year five. The tree is huge though
If you plant your new trees the Ellen White way you’ll be eating their fruit the next year and see a tremendous amount of growth ! Agree with the compost mulch covering for anything you grow in the garden!
Ive seen videos where some people have had trees die off from planting with the Ellen White method. Did it work that well for you?
@@MrEunderwood out of nine trees planted the EW way only one died. Could have been disease got it. All but one have done great!
I'm a bit obsessed with my recent fig/gardening kick that I've been on, so that has my kids rolling their eyes whenever they see me watching "another gardening video". The only exception is your videos. I sometimes notice the kids secretly watching and when I don't notice, I catch them when I hear laughter during "Adventures with Dale". He is quite the star around here!
As always, your discussion on the topic is coherent, concise, and easy to understand. Your channel is a gem for sources of sound information about gardening in general and tree planting in particular. Keep it up.
You can also amend your soil at least 1 ft deep for a hole that is 3 times the pot size. Try adding compost 2 to one into the soil and adding bone meal into the entire hole soil. Mix it in well. My fruit trees give me small fruit on the second year and are going full tilt year 3. It gives your tree a great start to growing out their roots fast. Makes for easy roots growth and plenty of food to grow on. It really makes a difference
Amend your soil?
@@salamshalomhat does that mean to "amend your soil 1 foot deep for a hole 3x the pot size"?
And what's 2-1 compost?
Thank you. Your narrating is perfect simple, get to point and fluent. Your facts make sense and practical. God bless you.🙏🌷
I had heard about lighting storms causing major growth on plants and trees, but was told it was an old timers thing.... now i know the science behind it! Thanks for great content.
Not true.
great video thx. my trees took off exactly like you've explained, but i was terribly worried during the first 18 months or so; and then BOOM!!! I always found this strange until i watched u'r vid! thx againand best wishes .
Very informative and I like the rhyming time frame: sleep, creep and leap!
Congrats on 400k man!! Great video!!
Perfect timing! Mom has been fretting that her persimmon tree isn't doing anything. But it has only been planted for 2 years, and don't think it was planted properly nor fertilized.
Now is the time to fertilize. I have a video on exactly how to do that here: th-cam.com/video/Y-XPkRnI-ls/w-d-xo.html
My family started our mini fruit orchard just over two years ago, when we moved to our forever home, in Peyia, Cyprus. Out of us all, only one of us had any experience of growing fruit trees and that was tropical species in a totally different climate. Aside from a few failures along the way, we’re proud of our how we have done and look forward to bumper crops in the next few years and maybe even expanding into a few more species, depending on what the weather does. We find it is becoming increasingly unpredictable, but our trees came through okay after our first major hail storm in the Spring of this year. There are many fruit producers here in Cyprus who were hit much harder than we were.
Best fruit tree video ever. Thanks.
Thank you so much for all your time you spend on us for educating, this video is very helpful !!!
I so appreciate all of your help hints. I have a fig & pomegranate that have been struggling for a couple years.
If they have been struggling for years, my guess is they have a problem with either lack of food or poor soil type. A good spreading of organic fertilizer with a thick compost and mulch layer will surely help. I can't overstate how IMPORTANT the compost and mulch layer is, and I mean a THICK one. It does wonders.
Very informative vlog….I have 10 citrus trees I planted March 21, I’ve taken soil samples put lime and I’m in a slump, trees will not green up or grow….I’ve put down underground irrigation an water twice a week…..some of my new growth I have started look like it has burnt up, I’m scared I’ve fertilized to much!
Brilliant and intuitive video. Thank you for the great tips i will certainly be applying them to my young fruit trees 😊
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this video. I was about to dig up my plum trees.
Great tips - about to plant 6 fruit trees as a start to my mini backyard orchard. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this vid... I have 2 figs I'm growing in 5 gallon pots and 2 peach trees. I'll transplant them next season, I frequent your channel cause it's got a ton of good ideas.
Nice recap. of things I knew but never put together. Thanks.
Very sensible and helpful… in England we had a cold spring followed by a drought in 2022. …although I watered new shrubs I lost some I suspect that partly I had not heeled some in properly with small gaps around the pot ball that new roots had difficulty in bridging.
Richard
Good video. This is why I love mulberries! You get fruits in the first year.
That’s what I love about my Prime Ark Freedom blackberries. They fruit in mere months after planting. You may want to consider them if you’re a berry lover.
I love your attention to detail, really enjoyed this video. Greetings from Oz
Excellent video.
Again, a really good informational video. Thanks MG!🌱
From CA🏖️
I love your channel! Especially because you are roughly in the same area as I am.
I'm glad it's helpful! Thanks for your support!
Hi I used the Ellen G White method on planting fruit trees. This is the first season and they have grown 2 feet since last year. And I use Miracle-Gro liquid fertilizer every month on them. 1 you need to test your soil and see what it needs ours needs lime. I live In zone 8a heavy clay. Alabama great video.
I know you’re supposed to mix the lime in with the soil but if it’s already planted can you sprinkle it over the surface?
With some very vigorous trees like figs, this is possible. Figs can grow like absolute beasts right away when planted properly, but an established fig can grow from total dieback to 8 feet tall in one summer, and that's not the norm. My point is that your trees not doing much that first season or two isn't necessarily a problem, and as long as there is slow progress, they are headed in the right direction. If it's been 3 yearsand nothing has happened, you likely have a cultural problem.
@@TheMillennialGardener these are apple tree a golden delicious and 2 granny smith.
So excited for the update. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
New to your channel from the uk. Love how you explain the common sense approach to growing. Fertility is a must for production. If cost is a problem there's lots of home made fertilizers from other plants etc. Like you say a forest is it's on eco system. Nature has it right. Plus if a plant dies that cost seems pretty love than the original cost of the plant if it was bought. Loved your cucumber video too which is how I found you. Looking forward to binge watching your channel. 👍
Hahaha! That cookie was hard! Lucky Dale.
Thank you for the video. Great content.
I think we let it sit on the counter for a couple days and forgot about it. It basically turned into a brick, but Dale didn't care! He still loved it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video man. Found it very helpful. We just got an awesome property in 21 that had 20 total well established fruit trees and grape vines. We are in the process of adding more varieties of fruit trees like apricot, nectarine, persimmon, miniature peach and a few others right now and this video helped guide me allot.
This is a really informative video and I thank you!
You’re welcome! Happy to help!
Thankyou very informative
I have very much enjoyed all of your instructional videos. They are easy to follow and quite comprehensive. My question - do you ever use fish fertilizer for more established trees? I know you use it for up potting younger cuttings from the 4x9 tree pots, but how about on trees that are 3-5 years old? Thank You
Loved this! I have some fruit trees to feed and mulch tomorrow!
Bought an orange tree and it's been in the ground about a year and a half now. About 6 months ago I learned about the grass competition and ripped it all out and made a 6ft diameter barrier and covered with mulch. Tree is growing much better now, except it is not growing up. It is growing outwards on all sides, just not up. Should I continue waiting til the third year hoping it grows up instead of out? Thanks for the video. Learned a lot!
Just terrific information, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
You're welcome!
Thanks so much! I wondered why my lemon tree hadn't grown. I really appreciate all your knowledge. I'm trying to start a garden here in California. Everything cost so much. Potatoes have almost doubled amongst other veggies.
The price increases are awful. I feel your pain. Fruit trees are a great way to help take the pressure off. I used to buy a bag of lemons and limes every week. I have not bought a single piece of citrus in 6 months! I’ve just had so much production that I don’t need to, anymore. It is some investment getting off the ground, but my produce bills barely exist these days unless I need something specific. It’s great to eat what’s in season. In our climate, we are fortunate enough that something is always growing. Keep at it and in a few years, you won’t believe the progress!
Such good and helpful information! Great explanation! Thank you! 😊👍
You’re welcome! Thanks so much for watching!
My peach trees in it's 3 year.leap baby leap!
How inspirational.i even covered it up during the last frosts we got cause it was starting to bud.even put a heat light in with the little booger.
😂😃
Thank you for all your information very informative 👍.
thanks. i was wondering why my fruit trees did nothing all year
Thank you for all your well explained videos. You have been a great help for us... I have two peach trees. I put them in ground 4 years ago. It's Feb 20th, I'm moving to another property in two weeks. I wanted to plant those trees (they are a gift from my son) in my new property. When is the best time for transplant?? I saw some flower buds already. What about garlic, do you know if garlic can be transplanted?? Thank you!!
Thank you...more knowledge just when I need it! 👍How I love your channel!❤
Hey Dale! He's more than lucky...he's a blessed pup!😃🐕
I’m so happy to hear that! We are even luckier to have Dale. He’s our #1. Thanks for watching as always!
Excellent video. You have a new subscriber. Thank you 🙏!
Great video thanks for sharing your knowledge
You're welcome!
I received an apple and a peach tree as a gift about 3 weeks ago. The apple tree has already put out a TON of leaves but the peach tree hasn’t done anything. It’s still green, so I’m hoping it is just a matter of patience until next year!
I do have a question though…some of the tips of the limbs on the peach tree appear to be dry. Should I cut down to the green? Or just leave it completely alone?
Thanks!
Cut any dead wood from your trees regardless of the time of year. Anything dead or diseased. Clean your clippers with alcohol before cutting and before cutting a different tree. Sanitize clippers often.
great concise video
Also don't forget the effect of bare root transporting may have on them. I've found a lot of nurseries and big stores pot up trees they've brought in bare rooted so they'll be in that first year even if they're kept in a pot instead of put in ground
From my experience, stagnation is mostly caused by too low pH or too stressfull plant during handling transportation.
Wonderful advice. Thank you.
You are welcome!
That was a really great video. Thanks.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Dale is beautiful!! God bless!!
He's so handsome. We are lucky to have him 🐕
Thanks Millenial👍👋❤️!!
You are wicked smart and my new fruit trees thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Cheers,
Roxanne Zone5🇨🇦
Aww thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks so much for watching!
You're best teacher🙏🏻✨
Thank you so much! I am happy to hear it was helpful.
Excellent.
Thank you, awesome video. I've had a 3 ft pomegranate tree I planted over 4 years ago and it barely flowered last year but still didn't produce any fruit. We have clay soil here in CA so I added compost when planting, but did not add mulch to the top. I will try that. It's flowering again this year, cross your fingers!! Anything else I can do for the tree?
I have to agree with the gardeners who feel that YOU must spend 100's if not thousands of $$ on mulch, fertilizer, fabric , fruit trees etc.
I know all of the above will pay dividends down the line
But not many people can spend what you have on setting up a garden.
I would wager just your fruit trees cost a lot to put 40 trees in your yard.
Some trees are 20 to 50 bucks apiece.
Also, isn't putting all that fertilizer just like giving a hormone shot to the plants?
It' doesn't seem 'natural'.
Thanks for all the info you put forth.
I know your garden didn't happen in one year and you have put in a lot of work.
So I shouldn't expect my fruits and vegetables to happen in one year.
fyi
I'm living in E central FL at the beach.
It has taken a few years to get a handle on what to plant at what time of year.
Nxt year I will plant a lot more of my vegetables in the fall for a Winter crop.
No frosts here but the days are so short in Winter that even cherry tomatoes wouldn't turn red until the Sun came back.
Keep up the GOOD WORK
Dean
You will love those persimmons. They produce a ton of fruit and I have not had any issues with bugs or disease on the 4 I own. They made fruit the 2nd year I had them.
I can't wait for them to fruit. I'm hoping the Giombo flowers this year. Last year, it got creamed by late frost damage, but this year, it made it through undamaged and is really putting on growth.
@@TheMillennialGardener GOOD LUCK! they are susceptible to late spring frost damage. my first 4 trees died that way, my fault didn't really pay attention to weather reports.
Just moved planted fruit trees in April in July we got 2 big peaches that were delicious on one tree. We were shocked …..when the tree was planted it was about 5-6 feet tall. On the plum tree we got only 1 small perfect plum until some kind of bug got it.😮. I hope I am still living in 3 more years to see them really produce fruit. It is very exciting!!!!!!!! 🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳
Great video it will solve my gardening issues
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Great as always hopefully my crop will come in
Thank you! It will surely be in soon enough. In the meantime, enjoy the beautiful spring weather. It’s such a short season.
I’ve had this problem with my fruit trees. Most of them have been planted for 6 years and they are only about 6-7 feet tall but with sparse limbs and leaves. They have only had a very few small apples. I had cedar trees planted near them and they had apple cedar brown spots but have since removed the cedars. This will be the first season without the cedars nearby.
This winter I lost my one year old bud graft nikita’s gift persimmon. It was replanted last spring and I think I over fertilize it. Just found, persimmons don’t like too much fertilizer
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO IT'S VERY HELPFUL EVERYTHING YOU SAID ON THIS VIDEO PRETTY MUCH CORECTLLY RIGHT!.
I’m glad it could be a help! Thanks so much for watching!
My trees were stunted because the soil was nutrient poor. Once I started watering with goat manure tea and mulching with grass, the growth was amazing. That said, I burned one tree with strong compost tea, another - cactus - survived the burn. Learned that lesson.
The ground in my new house is clay and rocks and heavily compacted, it sucks! What's that tea you used? Is it made with fresh manure or is it fermented for a lot of time?
@@fenrirgg Its made from dried goat manure. I want to try fermenting it.
I’m torn on the weed thing. Another theory is other plants near the trunk can have symbiotic relationships-sharing nutrients, ground cover, etc. Unless another plant were to be shading out another tree, that would certainly limit growth. Do you know if there’s any research on orchard productivity with adjacent plants? I believe some call the strategy “guilds”
Isn't it called 'companion planting'?
@@MalaysianTropikfusion yeah or some call it gilds or guilds? I believe
Tree guilds are a concept popular in permaculture. Essentially, you try to group plants together that all provide benefits to one another, mimicking a natural setting rather than a groomed, manicured appearance. No one is feeding fruit teees that grow in the wild. Google "apple tree guild" for more detail. Companion planting is similar, but often used in veggie gardens. This video details more of an orchard's treatment with the use of fertilizers & the like.
In my experience actually growing fruit trees, weeds will stunt the growth of a fruit tree substantially. Weeding frequently helps the nutrients in the soil go to the fruit tree and not the weeds.
My trees have been in the creeping stage for several years and I wish I'd known about this before. Could mesquite and oak bark be used for mulch? I also have a bunch of decomposing needles from a giant arborvitae that I'd like to used as well. I have a bunch of it from the wood pile that I'd like to use for our fruit, Afghan pines, and oak trees. If not I'm going to have to buy some cedar bark mulch and some Kellogg's Grow mulch from HD, which I'd like to avoid because I've already dumped a ton of money in my not-so-productive vegetable garden. Thanks for another great video!
My apple trees on m27 root stock had "die back" ie dead at the tips for about 6 inches . They ate about 3 years old & are producing some fruit.
Any suggestions for what to spray on cherry trees to keep the beetles from eating the leaves?
How did you decide which trees you were planting in pots vs the ground? Also I got an avocado tree and the nursery it came from said to not put it in a pot larger than 10 gallons, do you know why? I just bought a bunch of the 15 gallon nursery pots.
I'm doing lemon trees like my daughter did. I grew from seeds last year. She keeps them well pruned and has plenty of lemons. These will be potted.
You do a great job on your channel. So good.👍🏼
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
Hi, I planted a fuyu persimmon tree last yr, its on 2nd yr now but you're right I don't see much growth and I getting worried and wanted to move the tree in other place of my property thinking maybe it doesn't like where I planted it but seeing your video gives me hope I will see what happens on its 3rd yr growth. My question is I wanted to prune my tree in half but I'm scared to do it hahaha since its most growth is on top I wanted to grow my tree like the size of your tree into a manageable size. Any advice when is the right time to do it? I live in 9b southern california. Your advice will be so much appreciated thank you! 😊
Thank you very much for providing this information,but why my persimmon tree fruits fall off like 95% on the ground.
It is big tree maybe at least 6 years old.
You really know your stuff
Patience is hard, gotcha on that.
Good info, thanks
Great video! Now I realize I planted a little deep, about 3 feet. Growth has been slow but all my trees are in their third or fourth year and only the avocado tree has yet to bare fruit. Can I expect that they have at least established themselves enough to survive at a continuous but slow growth rate?
Extremely informative!
Thank you! I appreciate that.
Great video. Thank you for the info!
You're welcome!