3D NAND as Fast As Possible
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is 3D NAND all that great? Or is it just another 3D implementation that will disappoint most, and give some throbbing headaches...
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"Speaking of... that" Linus is the best at sponsor spots.
Muriuki "Speaking of... *closes tab*"
Sorry Linus but I have no interest on subscribing shaving.
Brian Lin tbh i'd consider some of the sponsors like this one if i lived in America, sounds like a very good deal
Brian Lin that's why your bikini line is out of control lol
MafionzoR Cool story Linus
Yew Tewb Hahaha *He then removes his mask to reveal an angry Linus *
Linus was killing it 7 years ago... now he's the IT kingpin of TH-cam.
I am an engineer at Micron and this is what we do and make :)
*I don't know which comment is the best*
But anyway, thanks for advancing the technology
ya'll hiring!?
No you're Freeza
Yeah same. I came here to understand what I'm actually doing lol.
Appreciate the time and effort you put into breaking down 3D NAND for us!
That was some fancy editing!
I like how the problem is avoided by just coming up with a solution that makes it so that the we would run into the same problem again, but only after a significant amount of time.
Dude, you're such a legend. Keep these videos coming!
Wow, I come from the future by five years, he was right, cheap NVMe's with 3d nand under $70 for 500GB
Love this series
always a suuuper slick segway. love it
I love how this one is different from the Vessel upload. THe vessel one shows vessel, this one shows TH-cam.
LTT, you guys are on point.
serious question, if physical size is an issue, why not make SDDs bigger? like 5.25"? would there be any drawback in terms of speed or reliability?
I know old comment but, Probably the drawback is in electric consumption, besides it will be hard to fit 5.25 form into mobile devices such as laptops and tablets or even desktop systems as some of these SSDs are plugged in PCIe and M.2 slots
@@abbesatty9498 I would add to that saying more silicon takes more time there by adding to cost. How ever we are not to far from where we will need to do that.
Your channels vids have improved a huge amount (not that they were bad to begin with). Good stuff
LOL I love how Linus has fun with this adverts at the end. xD
0:23 lol I freaked out when that happened. I thought it was a milicious script xD
This did make me laugh at multiple points, good job Linus!
I know how to make more space... 4d nand!
hahahaha
Joof Wouldn't work
He's joking dude ._.
4D Nand, A nand that spans and goes through time it self
Good luck with that.
cool idea with the "dont go" episode... lol
Does 3D NAND influence the bitencoding? SLC/MLC/TLC? or is this just the voltage levels that can be stored in the gate?
Could you do an episode on encrypting data before uploading them onto the cloud? There's been a lot of cloud storage service providers. Amazon has this unlimited option even. But I've got no clue on how to encrypt my own data before uploading them to the cloud.
Use winRAR and put a password
Thank you man, You are simply "THE BEST"
It's just a matter of finding designs with more surface area. I'm sure we'll see variations of 3D nand which aren't just vertical. We'd still reach a limit though.
The voice crack at 0:22 is gold
Just watched this in 4K, and it's awesome.
XD this video was spot in guessing when I started looking for something else to watch
He was like "Hold on don't go" and I was like
:o oh okay.
LinusBadSegwayTips definately needs a community edited video compilation.
watching in 2089 we have 5D NAND
Are you really from Future?
Tell when corona is gonna end sir please 🙏
@@LORDGULSHAN the first or second time?
@@boggless2771'bruh 🤣
Watching this on my 6D NAND
in 2177: 12D NAND!!!!!!!
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The 0 and 1 states are the wrong way around at 2:17, the floating gate filled with electrons is actually the 0 state, while its empty state represents a 1.
Hey Linus, is the Boolean expression for 3D NAND different from regular NAND?
Also, why is the Semiconductor arranged as p-n-p-n-p (or is n-p-n), how is the current biased ?
+Techquickie
Any chance for a video further explaining how NAND flash works?
Please tell me in simple language. Do you recommend 3D Nand SSD card for my laptop which I use for just light work and not so complicated task such as graphic etc.
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Hahahaha!
"Speaking of.. uhh.. that!.."
You actually made me LOL Linus, and that's pretty hard to do tbh :P
Same here
Do you think that SSD's will ever get to the point where they generate enough heat that they will need a fan or some other form of cooling?
lol
Hey, Linus, is there any good screen protector that you would recommend, I just got a new phone...
"Good thing Linus is going to say a bunch of words which will explain what the heck it is! This is a video description!"
lol
thanks for solving my problem
In terms of longevity, which would be better: 128GB MLC or 120GB 3D NAND TLC? I'm looking to buy an M.2 2242 SSD. Both are from the same company, but the 3D NAND model is newer.
Can you do a video on what a render farm is? maybe another one on how to build one and the software you need to have one? I am an aspiring film maker and am curious to see if i will need one.
dude i want you as a teacher holly crap i love you :)
Quick question. Im looking to pickup a 500gb or 1tb ssd for my car to store movies that will b played through my pioneer headunit. One of the models i was looking at doesnt have dram cache. I suspect i already know my answer but im guessing dram isnt something i should b concerned with at all since the only time the drive will ever c a pc is when im loading movies on to it correct.
After 5yrs in 2021, we're still waiting for it
I missed you linus :3
Please do a as fast as possible to high power psu efficience in low power range.
Why are they not as good as the low power ones?
How much does the capacity increase for the same area? And please elaborate on the 3d part. What's 3d here?
so what current products use 3D nand flash that I can purchase right now for example? I know the 2.5" Samsung 850 Pro uses it but what about the M.2 NVMe 850 Evo or Pro or 860 Evo or Pro (I'm only referring to M.2 NVMe). My 850 Pro says MLC but what about 3D nand?
The 2,5" 850 pro uses 3D mlc(2 bits per cell) nand. The 2,5" 850 evo uses 3D tlc(3 bits per cell) nand. The 960 pro uses 3D mlc(2 bits per cell) nand. The 960 evo uses 3D tlc (3 bits per cell) nand. mlc is theoretically better than tlc, but in reality it's more expensive and you probably won't see a big difference. All data is for the ~500gb versions.
Id like to imagine there was a board meeting where they were discussing how they could more storage without making it too close together and a janitor walks in and suggests they try folding it
So... 2TB MicroSD cards just around the corner?? :o
@@ka5166 - indeed, I was just pleasantly surprised to see that 1TB M2 NVMe drives are now under $100.
indeed lol
your friend from the future , not there yet but close , now it's corona time
Techquickie why don't you do AFAPs @ 60fps? Seems like a good idea since linus moves a lot when he does FAPs
how about a episode on bus speeds n stuff. ? does some hard ware work better with ohter hardware with same bus speed. and how to tell ?
I love the cat videos in the up next section at 0:26 !
Nicely done ACE Iskalder :P
The description of how it works made me think of how a capacitor works somewhat.
Which better v-nand or 3d nand?
Samsung evo 860 or wdc blue?
0:25 how do you make screens like that for your video?
What antivirus/internet security suite do you recommend
By any chance do you know the difference between the xpg sx8200 480gb & adata xpg sx8200 pro?
Debating for video editing!
If you need an idea you can show the difference between RJ cable types (for example RJ11 for telecommunications, RJ45 for networking..).
There is a lot of confusion here on this topic
The very final frame of this video is Linus holding up a clapperboard, in front of a green screen. The clapboard is labeled "EML FAP".
5:14 EMI FAP?
I don't get it.
woopygoman electro-magnetic interference, fast as possible.??
2sites oh probably from that previous video! just a blooper perhaps
2sites maby?
+woopygoman Electromagnetic Interference as Fast as Possible
Can you explain how LEDs are made? I think it involves something about gallium nitride and sapphire crystal or something. But they're everywhere and are important. Also why do white LEDs have that blue hue? Isn't that because they are based off of the blue LED but with an added phosphor thing?
5:15 I saw Linus hands up and something like action and cut thing
is there a video that explain how 0 & 1s are stored on a drive??
You are awesome Singer
Should I by a 3d nand ssd instead of a normal one if they cost the same? (Adata or Samsung)
I always thought tidal waves were caused by the moon, not by asteroids?
0:23 How did you know I was watching this in full screen?
I was literally leaving
I feel like you're shouting at me, Linus.
What Internet security suite would you recommend
Linus, you are the King of nerds, I salute you sir.
Is this to do with spintronics and IBM's racetrack memory?
Linus' segues are the best!
so is it related to the NAND logic gate? i thought memory worked through double NOR gates per bit. or am i just living in the 70s or something? lol
"Unfortunately, quantum physics is a cruel mistress." XD
lol i loveee your humor 😊
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is that a FaZe shirt linus is wearing?
Liked for that video-ception in the beginning if nothing else
once we run out of space again , we just make it 4D cuz YOLO
Thank Bob for speed control. I had to set it to 0.95x just to keep up. Seems Linus goes a bit too fast for me to keep up without rewinding in this Tq.
spotted a mistake, at 2:01, Linus said 'the electrons are trapped in a layer of oxide', where the floating gate should be polysilicon instead of silicon oxide.
"less is actually more in this case"
equivalent exchange be damned lol
Could you do a Fast as Possible about the different AMD CPUs? Something similar to the video explaining the Intel CPUs. Thank you!
Does the Intel "3D Xpoint" works like that?
2:10 this was that i really wanted to know
I'd love to see a 3.5" SSD, hopefully this tech could make it happen.
Well, considering that most of a 2.5 inch SSD is just empty space, we wouldnt really need to go to 3.5 inch
Those intel SSDs they keep advertising are 2.5in but a lot thicker.
I just got an ad of Linus in an ad office then bowling about the managing tool pulseway. WTF!
Can't wait for 4D nand.
In a future video, i wanna see how to use your home pc as a websever
man, Linus speaks so fast!
So Linus uploaded vids in 4k back then too?
Was this downsampled from 60 fps? Cause on my oldass S3 it looks quit fluid.
Also Linus looked 3D-ish or is it just me?
Andreev Andrei probably the drugs, man
Cant we flip the flipped nands?
0:26 Oh my lawwwd. I just figured out how you do the Picture in Picture... You literally just layered over the "Jailbreaking & Rooting as Fast As Possible" video, used the F12 thing to change some words around and framed the video over the player. That's fucking clever. The date published gave it away :)
Cant wait for 4d nands
Hey Linus, I got a chinese knockoff of an 128Gb micro SD card, and it was actually 8Gb, however, the storage capacity does show 128Gb, how do they achieve this?
Armax Firmware shenanigans, or they actually fool the registry to register as 128GB.
Armax you can store the data but cant read it.
swafsal
You can't store the data though.
It tells you it's writing, but it's actually not writing anything, or rather writing all your information nowhere.
Kinda deep.
Armax You got fucked, Man
What was the oculus clip at the beginning?
Simon White You see 3d when using VR.
No I mean what's it from.
Hi can you do noise cancellation next? thanks in advance
That ending