I got the quad tendon graft, and I would recommend it to anyone. I'm 21 years old and highly active. My knee itself feels strong, and I had no issues achieving my post-surgical milestones. I did have pain in my quad muscle for many weeks, but that's to be expected since a large chunk was taken for the graft. Good luck to anyone who's in the process of dealing with this injury. Stay strong, you got this.
I’m 10 days post surgery using quad graph, having troubles with bending my knee once I get around 40 degrees I get very sharp pains in my quad when I’m supposed to be able to go to 90 degrees by now. Was yours similar or different at all?
The patellar tendon graft is the best graft for anyone who considers themselves an athlete and wants to get their knee back functioning as good and as strong as before. The only downside is it takes the longest to recover from and it’s the most painful procedure, but as they always they, it won’t be easy but it’s worth it. The quad tendon on the other hand is a newer graft that shows very good promise. The hamstring has the fastest recovery time and it’s not as bad as a recovery, I believe it has the most re-tear rates and it gets looser as years go by compared to the other ligaments. I tore my right acl 2 years ago and got the patellar tendon graft and they had me start physical therapy the very next day. The end of April last month I twisted my left knee wrestling and I found out i tore my left acl. Once again I’m getting the patellar tendon graft, because I’m only 23, I’m physically fit, and I’ve done countless amount of research on ACL surgery and the patella tendon graft is the best one minus the longer recovery time and more pain. My surgery is scheduled for next Tuesday and I’m thinking of vlogging my recovery and I’ll post it to show updates for anyone interested.
I highly disagree, the hamstring graft is a very strong graft choice and studies have shown it to be on par with the patellar tendon graft. There’s a very slight difference in terms of re-tear rates because people get cleared quicker. There is just too much morbidity from a patellar tendon graft imo -unless you’re a high level athlete I don’t think its worth it.
HI! I’m so happy to come across your comment, and I hope I can get a response! I tore my acl wrestling about 4 months ago. And I’m getting surgery in a week. I’m still struggling to find what’s the best graft for me but I was leaning towards hamstring bc I was worried about the anterior knee pain from the patellar graft. But I heard a lot of good reviews about the patellar tendon graft. what I wanted to ask is, how is it going for you and your wrestling? Is it uncomfortable now? Or does it get better?
Do the hamstring graft. It’s been 5 years since my surgery and my knee has zero pain, recovery was so fast, the scars are very small and not noticeable, and my hamstring feel like nothing ever happened to it.
How long did you wait before having the surgery? Did you have decent muscle in your leg before getting the surgery? Still weighing up if I should get it or not
If you’re an athlete DO NOT follow this guys advice. GET THE PATELLA GRAFT you will come back a way better athlete and you will not even notice ANY problems down the road. My 2 friends mAde the mistake of getting a hamstring graft and they have nothing but problems!!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE DOESNT KNOW!!!
I'm in need to get my ACL reconstruction redone from when I had it done at Packard children's about 10 years ago. I've been having pain ever since and it's more consistent now
I had patella tendon BTB option for ACL repair. Waited almost 3 months for surgery to have full extension first. I was progressing but then all of a sudden regressed. My physical therapist didn't have me use machines to isolate the quad. This may have been the main issue. Or perhaps it was the choice to take the patella tendon. I am now seeing a second surgeon (14 months after surgery due to continued knee pain preventing me from doing squats). This surgeon says he doesn't perform patella tendon surgery for patients over age of 25 (I was 31 when I had surgery, athletic for my age and was applying for a career as Army Chaplain so I would need to be able to run). Might try injections to help push through the pain and build enough strength which then can avoid the pain in the knee (that's his plan). Right now, I can't jog for more than 3 minutes due to knee pain. I still don't know what was the best course of action throughout my recovery process, but I hope this information can be helpful to others.
There is a period where the graft gets weak and kinda dies in order to regenerate, maybe that's what happened? Lookup the stages or acl graft recovery.
Its been over 2 years since i had my knee reconstructed ( Allograft/cadaver graft ) the result of it, i feel very strong , but i sometimes get those knee pops or that nerve pitch time to time and myself an active athlete
I just had this done about 2 weeks ago. I thought my surgeon was gunna do an autograft , but instead used an allograft, and I’m stressing about it lol. Will I still be able to play soccer with an allograft??
@@eddiemurillo3384 Same here, but from my research one reason for the higher failures of the allograft is due to the longer healing time needed. It takes longer for an allograft to become strong. Work on your surrounding muscle groups and don't return to active sport too soon are the recommendations I have found.
@@SystemCTRL Iam going with the dead body or cadaver so it’s going to take more time to strengthen. I wonder if I would ever be able to return to BJJ 🤷♀️😵💫or Acrobatic things 🤔🤷♀️2 weeks till surgery just so many questions
@@dallasguidroz9350 I am actually on the tail end of my recovery back to sport. I got the surgery in April of this year and expect to be back Feb 1st. It has been lots of consistent work daily to get to this point. I just started working double leg takedowns. Running isn’t uncomfortable anymore and my knee doesn’t swell after harder sessions. If you have the drive, you can definitely get back.
@@SystemCTRL Awesome! So glad you are doing good with yours! Thank you 🙏 so much for the words of hope and encouragement, I will difently take a year Or how ever long it will take Iam not going to rush my recovery ❤️🩹 honestly nothing is worth the risk for me I just want to be able to return to family vacations and be able to work and take care of myself and not run into terrible Bone on bone or major Arthritis issues as I age. What’s a year I did that during COVID lockdown Kinda use to it 🤣🤷♀️
I got infection after 2 months post acl reconstruction surgery my doctor removed screws but graft retained in acl debridement / cleaning Surgery is thier any chance to return to sport without further surgery
I got the hamstring graft and my graft ruptured I am still healing now but if you are gonna get this graft MAKE SURE TO STRETCH YOUR HAMSTRINGS AND CALVES it is so important if you don’t your hamstrings and calves will be very weak
Im 44 years of age im not active in sports but i do workout at the gym when i can. Im not sure what is the best acl repair for me. My doctor says the donor cadaver procedure but i havent made up my mind. I dont want to have any arthrithis down the road. Anyone my age out there been through this and can help me decide my options?
with artificial ligament, I had almost no pain (mostly discomfort but that's it), my doc and PT in Shanghai told me my recovery will be a lot faster than if I had taken other grafts. I find it strange almost no youtube video about it.... seems the only downside is the cost since the price of the ligament is high. As I had harmstring ACL surgery 20 years ago and remembering how painful it was; I think it s really worth it to pay more if no pain at all!!
@@childrenofshanghai9894 Hello could you give more information, I also live in shanghai I torn my acl and lcl last november about to see the doctor soon im thinking about what kind of ligament I want. also any good rehab in shanghai?
@@maxnotreally6047 Hi!! I went to huashan hospital for the surgery, VIP department. The surgeon is specialized in artificial ligament ACL reconstruction procedure. He also fixed my meniscus during the surgery. As for rehab, I hesitated between the fancy the clinic and the PT at Yosemite warmly recommend by a good friend. Chose the latter and was super happy about it. By they way, Yosemite told me that for same cost, I could have done my surgery at their clinic which is super clean (compared to Huashan) and invite the surgeon who did my surgery... Total cost at huashan was like almost 200k RMB. One year later, I play soccer no problem :)
My problem tibila pleat damiz plas+ ACL.. Tibila pleat medal said ok repot afatr surjrey.. One yers camplit my tibila pleat medalsaid sarjrey... I am reday ACL surjrey
I got the quad tendon graft, and I would recommend it to anyone. I'm 21 years old and highly active. My knee itself feels strong, and I had no issues achieving my post-surgical milestones. I did have pain in my quad muscle for many weeks, but that's to be expected since a large chunk was taken for the graft.
Good luck to anyone who's in the process of dealing with this injury. Stay strong, you got this.
Me too after 2 weeks from now. Nice to hear good feedback. Lets stay strong!
How strong is your quad in knee extensions atleast comapred to other leg? Any problem squatting deep on your knees?
How long did it take you to activate your quadraceps muscle?
I’m 10 days post surgery using quad graph, having troubles with bending my knee once I get around 40 degrees I get very sharp pains in my quad when I’m supposed to be able to go to 90 degrees by now. Was yours similar or different at all?
@@HyperGnartook me 2 weeks to
The patellar tendon graft is the best graft for anyone who considers themselves an athlete and wants to get their knee back functioning as good and as strong as before. The only downside is it takes the longest to recover from and it’s the most painful procedure, but as they always they, it won’t be easy but it’s worth it. The quad tendon on the other hand is a newer graft that shows very good promise. The hamstring has the fastest recovery time and it’s not as bad as a recovery, I believe it has the most re-tear rates and it gets looser as years go by compared to the other ligaments. I tore my right acl 2 years ago and got the patellar tendon graft and they had me start physical therapy the very next day. The end of April last month I twisted my left knee wrestling and I found out i tore my left acl. Once again I’m getting the patellar tendon graft, because I’m only 23, I’m physically fit, and I’ve done countless amount of research on ACL surgery and the patella tendon graft is the best one minus the longer recovery time and more pain. My surgery is scheduled for next Tuesday and I’m thinking of vlogging my recovery and I’ll post it to show updates for anyone interested.
Update?
agreed. only one that didnt retear for me!
Our Dr told us quad is best for sports especially if they are on their knees any. The quad has a year recovery
I highly disagree, the hamstring graft is a very strong graft choice and studies have shown it to be on par with the patellar tendon graft. There’s a very slight difference in terms of re-tear rates because people get cleared quicker. There is just too much morbidity from a patellar tendon graft imo -unless you’re a high level athlete I don’t think its worth it.
HI! I’m so happy to come across your comment, and I hope I can get a response! I tore my acl wrestling about 4 months ago. And I’m getting surgery in a week. I’m still struggling to find what’s the best graft for me but I was leaning towards hamstring bc I was worried about the anterior knee pain from the patellar graft. But I heard a lot of good reviews about the patellar tendon graft. what I wanted to ask is, how is it going for you and your wrestling? Is it uncomfortable now? Or does it get better?
Dude thank you so much for this video. This video literally tells you everything you need to know in a simple condensed form
Do the hamstring graft. It’s been 5 years since my surgery and my knee has zero pain, recovery was so fast, the scars are very small and not noticeable, and my hamstring feel like nothing ever happened to it.
How long did you wait before having the surgery? Did you have decent muscle in your leg before getting the surgery? Still weighing up if I should get it or not
I did same too
Can you jump as high as you used to
My hamstring muscle ended up shrinking quite a bit, I lost a lot of strength in my hamstring and it cramps easy compared to the other
If you’re an athlete DO NOT follow this guys advice. GET THE PATELLA GRAFT you will come back a way better athlete and you will not even notice ANY problems down the road. My 2 friends mAde the mistake of getting a hamstring graft and they have nothing but problems!!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY HE DOESNT KNOW!!!
I'm in need to get my ACL reconstruction redone from when I had it done at Packard children's about 10 years ago. I've been having pain ever since and it's more consistent now
Which graft did you get done? Sorry to hear about the pain
torn my ACL 3 times same knee. hamstring and allograft both failed. Getting BTB this time
I had patella tendon BTB option for ACL repair. Waited almost 3 months for surgery to have full extension first. I was progressing but then all of a sudden regressed. My physical therapist didn't have me use machines to isolate the quad. This may have been the main issue. Or perhaps it was the choice to take the patella tendon. I am now seeing a second surgeon (14 months after surgery due to continued knee pain preventing me from doing squats). This surgeon says he doesn't perform patella tendon surgery for patients over age of 25 (I was 31 when I had surgery, athletic for my age and was applying for a career as Army Chaplain so I would need to be able to run). Might try injections to help push through the pain and build enough strength which then can avoid the pain in the knee (that's his plan). Right now, I can't jog for more than 3 minutes due to knee pain.
I still don't know what was the best course of action throughout my recovery process, but I hope this information can be helpful to others.
There is a period where the graft gets weak and kinda dies in order to regenerate, maybe that's what happened? Lookup the stages or acl graft recovery.
Wondering how you are doing? I'm 36 and debating on which type of graft
I torn my hamstring graft, had it repaired 15years ago. Now my new surgeon whats to try BTB little scared of the knee cap pain.
Its been over 2 years since i had my knee reconstructed ( Allograft/cadaver graft ) the result of it, i feel very strong , but i sometimes get those knee pops or that nerve pitch time to time and myself an active athlete
I just had this done about 2 weeks ago. I thought my surgeon was gunna do an autograft , but instead used an allograft, and I’m stressing about it lol. Will I still be able to play soccer with an allograft??
@@eddiemurillo3384 Same here, but from my research one reason for the higher failures of the allograft is due to the longer healing time needed. It takes longer for an allograft to become strong. Work on your surrounding muscle groups and don't return to active sport too soon are the recommendations I have found.
@@SystemCTRL Iam going with the dead body or cadaver so it’s going to take more time to strengthen. I wonder if I would ever be able to return to BJJ 🤷♀️😵💫or Acrobatic things 🤔🤷♀️2 weeks till surgery just so many questions
@@dallasguidroz9350 I am actually on the tail end of my recovery back to sport. I got the surgery in April of this year and expect to be back Feb 1st. It has been lots of consistent work daily to get to this point. I just started working double leg takedowns. Running isn’t uncomfortable anymore and my knee doesn’t swell after harder sessions.
If you have the drive, you can definitely get back.
@@SystemCTRL Awesome! So glad you are doing good with yours! Thank you 🙏 so much for the words of hope and encouragement, I will difently take a year Or how ever long it will take Iam not going to rush my recovery ❤️🩹 honestly nothing is worth the risk for me I just want to be able to return to family vacations and be able to work and take care of myself and not run into terrible Bone on bone or major Arthritis issues as I age. What’s a year I did that during COVID lockdown Kinda use to it 🤣🤷♀️
I got infection after 2 months post acl reconstruction surgery my doctor removed screws but graft retained in acl debridement / cleaning Surgery is thier any chance to return to sport without further surgery
My consultant repairs acl for professional footballers so when he said it was a btb graft I was more than happy with that. My surgery was Nov 22.
Ive done 2x left knee ACL surgeries (Hamstring and Knee graft)
What one was best?
What about peroneus longus graft ?
i feel like allograft is the best if you don't return to active sports. which is a easy job to do
Not for me. I’m trying to hoop
My surgeon told me that patella tendon graft is bigger than required size.
I think it could cause knee laxity.
can they not take less?
patella graft vs quad graft, which is better for young athletes?
I got the quadriceps tendon graft
How do you feel
Hey bro can u give me info about ur story ? Did they cut ur tendon ? What happend then ? Can u play football or can u run ?
How strong is your quad in knee extensions atleast comapred to other leg? Any problem squatting deep on your knees?
How about peroneus longus muscle graft is it suitable and strong ?????????
I got the hamstring graft and my graft ruptured I am still healing now but if you are gonna get this graft MAKE SURE TO STRETCH YOUR HAMSTRINGS AND CALVES it is so important if you don’t your hamstrings and calves will be very weak
How did you rupture your graft?
Im 44 years of age im not active in sports but i do workout at the gym when i can. Im not sure what is the best acl repair for me. My doctor says the donor cadaver procedure but i havent made up my mind. I dont want to have any arthrithis down the road. Anyone my age out there been through this and can help me decide my options?
Are you in pain or discomfort now?
Is double bundle is better than single bundle??
whar about LARS artificial ligament procedure? I just had it
with artificial ligament, I had almost no pain (mostly discomfort but that's it), my doc and PT in Shanghai told me my recovery will be a lot faster than if I had taken other grafts. I find it strange almost no youtube video about it.... seems the only downside is the cost since the price of the ligament is high. As I had harmstring ACL surgery 20 years ago and remembering how painful it was; I think it s really worth it to pay more if no pain at all!!
@@childrenofshanghai9894 no information cuz ....its new...
But why dont they use braided titanium instead...lol
@@childrenofshanghai9894 Hello could you give more information, I also live in shanghai I torn my acl and lcl last november about to see the doctor soon im thinking about what kind of ligament I want. also any good rehab in shanghai?
@@maxnotreally6047 Hi!! I went to huashan hospital for the surgery, VIP department. The surgeon is specialized in artificial ligament ACL reconstruction procedure. He also fixed my meniscus during the surgery.
As for rehab, I hesitated between the fancy the clinic and the PT at Yosemite warmly recommend by a good friend. Chose the latter and was super happy about it. By they way, Yosemite told me that for same cost, I could have done my surgery at their clinic which is super clean (compared to Huashan) and invite the surgeon who did my surgery...
Total cost at huashan was like almost 200k RMB.
One year later, I play soccer no problem :)
Thanks for this
My problem tibila pleat damiz plas+ ACL.. Tibila pleat medal said ok repot afatr surjrey.. One yers camplit my tibila pleat medalsaid sarjrey... I am reday ACL surjrey
How about your patella tendon is gonna pain right
Osman Osman Patella tendon is the most painful graft, however it is also the strongest graft
My acl surgey this month date 19
So which graft is good i wanna know it
Osman Osman Hamstring and Patella tendon are both great grafts...However Patella is the gold standard. If you can do a patella tendon I say go for it
@@nvpguitar4591 ok wish luck bro
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