Interesting. I've never heard or read a review saying that the HD 650 should have sibilant highs. My feelings about the two headphones are different, and I have owned both of them for years: The HD 650 has a more linear bass that is slightly better extended, more linear midrange, almost neutral, and slightly lower treble from the mid-range, all in comparison to the HD 600. The HD 600 has slightly raised upper mid-range and lower treble in my ears, but generally the more neutral treble that is also tuned a bit louder compared to the HD 650. Many independent measurements confirm my feeling. I also find that the imaging on the HD 600 definitely sounds better. If a song is well spatially mixed, the spatial representation and precision of the HD 600 is in my ears partly clearly superior to that of the HD 650. It also sounds more airy and real. I find that the HD 600 sounds more realistic. But I can recommend the HD 650 to anyone who demands a neutral sound and a pleasant sound that never sounds disturbing and fits to every genre, unless you like loud and deep bass. But I can confirm that the two headphones actually sound damn similar. Only those who listen to them will immediately notice the difference and know which headphone you are listening to. But if I had to choose, I would go for the HD 650, because with its overall tuning, I think I get the better all-rounder.
“Neutral” means that it has no enhancement on a particular frequency, making it more true to the sound source. (or at least in theory) Some people may also refer to this as “balanced” or “flat”.
Nice review. I own the 600, and just received the Massdrop 6xx (650). I like to base my thoughts on my own experience, and then go back to see what other people thought. In comparison: considering all the talk I heard about the "veil" on the 600/650's (especially the 650's), I was surprised to hear that the 650 has more detail, resolution, and treble extension. The differences are subtle, but make a big difference imo. The 650's sound like 600's, but have a better tonal balance. While the 600 is neutral with lighter bass, and mid/upper mid range "bloom" (which emphasizes vocals for instance), the 650 has more (but even) bass that connects smoothly with the mids through treble, less mid bloom (which leads to a slightly wider/deeper soundstage), and more detail/resolution. For me, the 650's are like 600's, but refined. I really liked the 600's. Especially for their smoothness and neutrality. It's easy to hear how they are a classic reference HP. However, I LOVE the 650's.
John Smith hello, im waiting for my hd650s, but looking for something portable to move their 300 ohms, I know portable is not the best way I like that way, any sugesttion? Thnks
Sorry for the late reply. I don't think I got a notification. Really, the HD6xx's are not meant for portable (open back design), and you'd need to bring an external amp for most portable sources. A Fiio media player (or something like it), or maybe an LG V30 phone would be a good.
abrahan neyra I found that amping the HD-650 made a large difference. I bought a chord mojo and plugged it in and suddenly the bass increased and everything sounded fuller and effortless, it was then and only then that I realized how underpowered they had been just running from my phone, laptop and ipad.it also made the difference between tidal normal and hifi modes apparent to me. long story short, if you do not amp you hd-6** headphones they you haven’t actually heard them.
Josh later said that he was wrong about the siblance with the 650. I believe he said that he was not amping them correctly and that it is not a siblant headphone. He has come a very long way in experience, presentation and production quality since this video was made! It's a great reference point for us fans of his to look back on to see how far he has evolved as a creator!
My uncle upgraded to Audezes and gave me his HD600's since I listen to so much music. Said they were worn in and may sound weird, but the nice part of 32 year old headset is the parts are available.
Nice to hear another take on the 600 line. You're the first reviewer I've come across who thinks the 650 treble can sound shrill or sibilant, most describe it as rolled-off. I have the HD-6XXs powered by a portable DAC/amp. I love the sound, and can listen for hours with no fatigue, but as my first decent pair of headphones I have nothing to compare them to! Good luck with your channel.
I don't think comparing audio at this level is healthy. It's not fun to discuss the sound signatures since many people are too extremist. I just bought HD650, my best headphone ever, but unfortunately ended up reading about this topic of 'HD600 vs HD650', which made me feel like neither can really satisfy you. Some people are just so extremist in their evaluations, some contradict themselves. I recommend everybody to just stick with what they have. This topic is silly materialism to me and comparisons are only worth when the differences are obvious. I feel like going crazy when people say they "might hear a difference" or "this amp or cable could affect the sound", etc. This sort of hi-fi is not for me, I view it as waste of time, energy and life in general. I recommend you all to go out and not think about audio equipment at all. You could say I can only blame myself for getting sucked into this, but really this problem wouldn't exist without people being obsessed. Obsession is the word, not "hobby".
Hear hear. I just posed something more or less to the same effect. I do my research, and I do it extensively, but once it’s time, it’s time. Just get something which is good, and it will be good. Most likely I’d go with the 600 in this case. I’m sure we could swap and enjoy the music regardless!
@@kencur9690 HD600s are undoubtedly good choice, though I haven't heard them. Now that I have learned more, I can tell you HD650s require proper amplification, like at least something that you get for around 200 €, otherwise they will sound a bit too warm, like the bass is not tightly controlled. Many listeners will dislike this attribute. Properly driven though they are very musical cans with slightly warm and dark sound that fits many genres of music well. They are comfortable to listen and very recommendable, but it just might be that HD600s are a safer bet if your equipment is not up to the task. Tough choice indeed, but remember that Sennheiser actually markets HD600s for recording classical music and the HD650s for musical enjoyment, which means that HD600s are likely tad more analytical.
@@TheSupremeSkill I have the Phonitor X so that shouldn’t be a problem. I have read they pair well, actually. These won’t be my main ones I think either, but rather my open-back stand-in pair. And indeed, I am mainly getting them for jazz and classical. Thanks for taking the time to reply man.
HD650's retain their tone better when plugging into different headphone amplifiers, whereas the HD600's are more sensitive to variances in amplifier topology. Hope this helps!
The Interstellar soundtrack is one of my favorites if not my favorite score of all time. Its epic and beautiful beyond my comprehension (kinda like the plot of the movie he he.) Also, your videos are really great considering how few subs you have. keep up the amazing work!
I have 58x 600 660s 6XX i like them all. But HD650 6XX are my favorite headphone , reason? Its the only dark not bright headphone that i heard that has so much detail and resolution without beeing bright.
I’ve got both, I’d say the treble is more extended on the 600’s, the 650’s are nicely rolled off giving a warmer, comparatively more vintage sound, with a slight upper bass/lower mid boost. Not sure if you’re comparing new vs broken in perhaps?
Hey i know this is 2 yrs old...but i work 8 hours a day at a computer listening to voice recording, would you say these are comfortable enough for an hour work day?
@@erikafisher119 they’d be comfortable enough from a weight perspective, clamp force may be an issue depending on head size and sensitivity. If you’re spending that much time per day focused on vocals, a pair of Hifiman Arya would be well worth a look (obviously a different price bracket, but a higher quality tool for that use IMO). Of the Sennheisers, my pick is the HD6XX - I sold my 600’s and 659’s when I got those, I much prefer the tuning and they’re cheaper.
Good review. A lot of people take the 600Over the 650. I couldn’t decide, so I got both. Once I EQ them, I prefer the 650 for pop and rock and the 600 for classical. I don’t notice any major sibilance on the 650, I just love the rich warm sound
ye thats fair assessment.... 650 is better all arounder and has warmer and more pleasing tone, but 600 definitely can see being bit better for classical music
I mean, the AD600 is the oldest pair of headphones in existence, as the name suggests. Built in the early Middle Ages, they have certainly stood the test of time!
Correct. Got both. The 650 is warmer/darker and has more bass and less highs than the brighter, more neutral 600. Therefore I use the 600 mainly for mixing/mastering and the 650 for listening to CD‘s and hires files.
@@danielfisch389 I use the hd600 too .... with a focusrite 2i4 ..... but often the bassline is not good when i hear my mix in my car. Maybe with the ssl2 the sound will be better with hd600 ?
When will you do the HD660S? Im really interested in your opinion on them, i just received them and i really like the more energetc presentation while not being overly different from the HD6 sound.
You think the HD 650 are brighter on top than the 600? Wow? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody say that before. I like them both and I have them both, I just think we don’t hear the same.
Hi, I recently bought the hd 600. When i first heard it in a shop i noticed it had a bit more bass to it compare it at home with tesame song. Maybe because of the amp they are using? So any recomendation what headphone amp to use? I just miss a little bit of bass but dont want to ruin the natural sound it produce. I listen mostly to rock music.
Ive had hd600s for a while but always been tempted to try hd650s(6xx,same thing)to find out if I'm missing anything(as the bass is more present and overal sound fuller whilst traiding off details)..and finally got 650s recently,listened to side by side and on their own(trying not to remember hd600s sound) and ....I find them too buttery,yes,the bass is there(for those who say there's no bass you need to get your ears checked)Sound is fuller,rounder but I miss details hd600s gives me .HD600s with Zen Can XBass feature they sound just right,and the vocals are better on 600s incl details-all in all 6XX seem to dark to my ear taste,So don't always follow trends and what majority say,trying hard to like something only because "everyone"like this or that.
HD 600 Pros : - Very clear and detailed, it feels snappy. - Neutral sound which is why many like this. - Vocal is clear and forward. Cons: - Bass is not impactful as you find in a lots of review. - Soundstage feels definitely narrow and restricted, I could confirm this after hours of usage. - Not as enjoyable for a casual/normal user. That laid back and smoothness is missing. HD 650 Pros: - Much better based and sounds fuller. - Soundstage is definitely better. - Very smooth and laid back tune that could be used for hours without fatigue. - Vocals are darker and recessed, if you like that. Cons: - Not as clear or detailed as you may feel when compared with HD 650 - Not neutral sound signature as HD 650 As my HD 650 got damaged I ordered HD 600 after so many wonderful recommendations online but in short it is not as enjoyable and non-fatiguing . So will try now HD 660s or something which is more enjoyable and return HD 600. Considering enjoyability aspect in mind might be Sennheiser sound engineers tuning the subsequent versions of 600 series (650, 660s, 660s2 etc.) - Kudos to them for these wonderful Open-backs.
Can someone help me with an answer that can determine me in purchasing the Sennheiser HD 600: Can I drive them directly from headphone output of a dedicated sound card from my PC? (in my case M-Audio Revolution 5.1) Thank you.
hi which is best for psytrance which have the most bass? I want only Sennheiser because i heard good stuff about them, I am using right now beyerdynamics, which Sennheiser you could recommend for tekno and psytrance ?
@@serdariusss5638 oh, Honestly i don't know, since i only had the Magni 2, not Modi. So i can't give you an idea of how that combo sounds. But for what i have read in many places, Modi/Magni is a great combo.
@@serdariusss5638 Solo won't support those headphones to the fullest as those headphones have impedance of 300 ohms while Solo can support only to 200 ohms (impedance is not the only indicator that decides the compatibility). Scarlett Solo of course would still be able to let you use them but not to the fullest quality the headphones can offer. I would recommend you trying the headphones first so you can have the idea whether you actually do need an amp. I also own the Solo and most shops assistants/experts told me that I would need an amp. You can still use the Solo as dac though. Good amp's to think about: Liquid spark, Schiit heresy, topping l30, jds atom or Aune X7s.
Is there any reason HD599's would sound better than HG650's? Serious question. I just "upgraded" to HD650's and am very underwhelmed. I'm using a Schiit Magni/Modi 3 stack.
@@jevule130bpm7 No, they are more than enough for HD650, they are quite easy to power, but if you're aiming for studio usage, go for HD600, they are more neutral
Big problem with the knocks on hd650 over hd600 the hd650 need 200 hour burn in and trust me you will be listening to a completely different experience And its very important that they get partnered correctly also Im sorry any headphone review that has not been burnt in is not a fair review straight out of the box not all but most headphones don't sound good straight out of the box And even ones that already sound good straight out of the box will still improve even further 100 hours at least to 200 hours the latter better cause some take longer than others but 200 covers both ends of the spectrum To many people dissapointed with there headphones straight out of the box and send them back not there fault not knowing or believing in burn in but gives great headphones bad wrap from inexperienced in these areas
Great review, I am looking for a neutral headphone, but people are DEAF these days and they can love a headphone with LOTS of brightness and siblinace and with crazy amount of lowend..I am looking for a great headphone with lots of clarity and detail but with with great tonal balancece and flat Frequency response...I just got the beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro that people rave abpout because they say are flat and great but to me are a bit too much in the lowend sounding in a way too boomy and maybe saturated and with lots of brightness
Crazy how much the presentation of his videos changed over time. Proud of you josh
Right. He keeps getting better.
Crazy.. first old vid I’ve seen of him & max these are more ruff to be sure
Exactly my thought.a bit rushed and chaotic here to grow and mature his presence over time.Great work.everything takes time
Interesting. I've never heard or read a review saying that the HD 650 should have sibilant highs. My feelings about the two headphones are different, and I have owned both of them for years:
The HD 650 has a more linear bass that is slightly better extended, more linear midrange, almost neutral, and slightly lower treble from the mid-range, all in comparison to the HD 600. The HD 600 has slightly raised upper mid-range and lower treble in my ears, but generally the more neutral treble that is also tuned a bit louder compared to the HD 650. Many independent measurements confirm my feeling. I also find that the imaging on the HD 600 definitely sounds better. If a song is well spatially mixed, the spatial representation and precision of the HD 600 is in my ears partly clearly superior to that of the HD 650. It also sounds more airy and real. I find that the HD 600 sounds more realistic. But I can recommend the HD 650 to anyone who demands a neutral sound and a pleasant sound that never sounds disturbing and fits to every genre, unless you like loud and deep bass. But I can confirm that the two headphones actually sound damn similar. Only those who listen to them will immediately notice the difference and know which headphone you are listening to. But if I had to choose, I would go for the HD 650, because with its overall tuning, I think I get the better all-rounder.
“Neutral” means that it has no enhancement on a particular frequency, making it more true to the sound source. (or at least in theory) Some people may also refer to this as “balanced” or “flat”.
I too prefer the hd 650 because I can hear instruments and bass evenly along with the vocals. The 600 is special but hd 650 is legendary.
What do you mean by linear? What does extending have to do w this? You mean more bass?
What a great video man! I loved the way you spoke and presented yourself. It kept me focused on what you're saying! Thank you for the video!
As a newcomer to the channel this was a great watch. I've never seen Josh without the desk and the production value. It's fun to see him nervous.
Nice review. I own the 600, and just received the Massdrop 6xx (650). I like to base my thoughts on my own experience, and then go back to see what other people thought. In comparison: considering all the talk I heard about the "veil" on the 600/650's (especially the 650's), I was surprised to hear that the 650 has more detail, resolution, and treble extension. The differences are subtle, but make a big difference imo. The 650's sound like 600's, but have a better tonal balance. While the 600 is neutral with lighter bass, and mid/upper mid range "bloom" (which emphasizes vocals for instance), the 650 has more (but even) bass that connects smoothly with the mids through treble, less mid bloom (which leads to a slightly wider/deeper soundstage), and more detail/resolution. For me, the 650's are like 600's, but refined. I really liked the 600's. Especially for their smoothness and neutrality. It's easy to hear how they are a classic reference HP. However, I LOVE the 650's.
John Smith hello, im waiting for my hd650s, but looking for something portable to move their 300 ohms, I know portable is not the best way I like that way, any sugesttion? Thnks
Sorry for the late reply. I don't think I got a notification. Really, the HD6xx's are not meant for portable (open back design), and you'd need to bring an external amp for most portable sources. A Fiio media player (or something like it), or maybe an LG V30 phone would be a good.
abrahan neyra I found that amping the HD-650 made a large difference. I bought a chord mojo and plugged it in and suddenly the bass increased and everything sounded fuller and effortless, it was then and only then that I realized how underpowered they had been just running from my phone, laptop and ipad.it also made the difference between tidal normal and hifi modes apparent to me.
long story short, if you do not amp you hd-6** headphones they you haven’t actually heard them.
I want a HD600 but will probably get the more cost/performance efficient USD 200 6xx from massdrop.
Josh later said that he was wrong about the siblance with the 650. I believe he said that he was not amping them correctly and that it is not a siblant headphone. He has come a very long way in experience, presentation and production quality since this video was made! It's a great reference point for us fans of his to look back on to see how far he has evolved as a creator!
My uncle upgraded to Audezes and gave me his HD600's since I listen to so much music. Said they were worn in and may sound weird, but the nice part of 32 year old headset is the parts are available.
Nice to hear another take on the 600 line. You're the first reviewer I've come across who thinks the 650 treble can sound shrill or sibilant, most describe it as rolled-off. I have the HD-6XXs powered by a portable DAC/amp. I love the sound, and can listen for hours with no fatigue, but as my first decent pair of headphones I have nothing to compare them to!
Good luck with your channel.
I don't think comparing audio at this level is healthy. It's not fun to discuss the sound signatures since many people are too extremist. I just bought HD650, my best headphone ever, but unfortunately ended up reading about this topic of 'HD600 vs HD650', which made me feel like neither can really satisfy you. Some people are just so extremist in their evaluations, some contradict themselves.
I recommend everybody to just stick with what they have. This topic is silly materialism to me and comparisons are only worth when the differences are obvious. I feel like going crazy when people say they "might hear a difference" or "this amp or cable could affect the sound", etc. This sort of hi-fi is not for me, I view it as waste of time, energy and life in general. I recommend you all to go out and not think about audio equipment at all.
You could say I can only blame myself for getting sucked into this, but really this problem wouldn't exist without people being obsessed. Obsession is the word, not "hobby".
Hear hear. I just posed something more or less to the same effect. I do my research, and I do it extensively, but once it’s time, it’s time. Just get something which is good, and it will be good. Most likely I’d go with the 600 in this case. I’m sure we could swap and enjoy the music regardless!
@@kencur9690 HD600s are undoubtedly good choice, though I haven't heard them. Now that I have learned more, I can tell you HD650s require proper amplification, like at least something that you get for around 200 €, otherwise they will sound a bit too warm, like the bass is not tightly controlled. Many listeners will dislike this attribute. Properly driven though they are very musical cans with slightly warm and dark sound that fits many genres of music well. They are comfortable to listen and very recommendable, but it just might be that HD600s are a safer bet if your equipment is not up to the task.
Tough choice indeed, but remember that Sennheiser actually markets HD600s for recording classical music and the HD650s for musical enjoyment, which means that HD600s are likely tad more analytical.
@@TheSupremeSkill I have the Phonitor X so that shouldn’t be a problem. I have read they pair well, actually. These won’t be my main ones I think either, but rather my open-back stand-in pair.
And indeed, I am mainly getting them for jazz and classical. Thanks for taking the time to reply man.
Mr angry, made the wrong decision lol.
HD650's retain their tone better when plugging into different headphone amplifiers, whereas the HD600's are more sensitive to variances in amplifier topology. Hope this helps!
The Interstellar soundtrack is one of my favorites if not my favorite score of all time. Its epic and beautiful beyond my comprehension (kinda like the plot of the movie he he.) Also, your videos are really great considering how few subs you have. keep up the amazing work!
Nathan Slayer thank you for the support boss!!
It is not possible! No, it is necessary!
I have 58x 600 660s 6XX i like them all. But HD650 6XX are my favorite headphone , reason? Its the only dark not bright headphone that i heard that has so much detail and resolution without beeing bright.
I’ve got both, I’d say the treble is more extended on the 600’s, the 650’s are nicely rolled off giving a warmer, comparatively more vintage sound, with a slight upper bass/lower mid boost. Not sure if you’re comparing new vs broken in perhaps?
Hey i know this is 2 yrs old...but i work 8 hours a day at a computer listening to voice recording, would you say these are comfortable enough for an hour work day?
@@erikafisher119 they’d be comfortable enough from a weight perspective, clamp force may be an issue depending on head size and sensitivity. If you’re spending that much time per day focused on vocals, a pair of Hifiman Arya would be well worth a look (obviously a different price bracket, but a higher quality tool for that use IMO). Of the Sennheisers, my pick is the HD6XX - I sold my 600’s and 659’s when I got those, I much prefer the tuning and they’re cheaper.
Great review. Love the listed soundtracks.
Thank you Vinh!
Nice review Joshua, you help me to decide for the HD600. Thanks!
DAMM, when this video was released i was still a virgin
And you still are. Don’t kid yourself.
@@kencur9690 you could say in a way, yes
Also, the whole package, the build quality of these headphones, the comfort, the price, the sound, I think they are the best buys in the price range
hell yes
Thanks for the "Hey Kids!"
Excellent..thanks.
Hell yeah for the hans zimmer drop! Love hearing recommendations!
Good review. A lot of people take the 600Over the 650. I couldn’t decide, so I got both. Once I EQ them, I prefer the 650 for pop and rock and the 600 for classical. I don’t notice any major sibilance on the 650, I just love the rich warm sound
ye thats fair assessment.... 650 is better all arounder and has warmer and more pleasing tone, but 600 definitely can see being bit better for classical music
Bright is definitely not the word I'd use for the 650s lol
Joshuas ears are not the best, everything is bright for him but he makes good descriptions of headphones.
Freddy Cely it was the amps he was using. 650s sound really bright with a bad amp. He cleared this up in one of his newer vids.
I agree. I own a pair of 6Xx and to my ears they definitely roll off, I have to increase the treble to satisfy my ears.
something is special about AD600.... most audiophiles and reviewers seem to have one, as a dear reference from the past.
I mean, the AD600 is the oldest pair of headphones in existence, as the name suggests. Built in the early Middle Ages, they have certainly stood the test of time!
Wait, what? I always thought the 600’s were brighter than the 650’s. 🤨
Probably how his amplifier setup works
Correct. Got both. The 650 is warmer/darker and has more bass and less highs than the brighter, more neutral 600. Therefore I use the 600 mainly for mixing/mastering and the 650 for listening to CD‘s and hires files.
@@danielfisch389 I use the hd600 too .... with a focusrite 2i4 ..... but often the bassline is not good when i hear my mix in my car. Maybe with the ssl2 the sound will be better with hd600 ?
When will you do the HD660S? Im really interested in your opinion on them, i just received them and i really like the more energetc presentation while not being overly different from the HD6 sound.
go fur hd 58x
You think the HD 650 are brighter on top than the 600? Wow? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anybody say that before. I like them both and I have them both, I just think we don’t hear the same.
Think he meant warmer while the 600's are brighter and more detailed vocals.
Which of these has bigger soundstage and more detailed -better imaging?
He said the HD650 has a bit bigger sound stage then the HD 600
Hi, I recently bought the hd 600. When i first heard it in a shop i noticed it had a bit more bass to it compare it at home with tesame song. Maybe because of the amp they are using? So any recomendation what headphone amp to use? I just miss a little bit of bass but dont want to ruin the natural sound it produce. I listen mostly to rock music.
Ive had hd600s for a while but always been tempted to try hd650s(6xx,same thing)to find out if I'm missing anything(as the bass is more present and overal sound fuller whilst traiding off details)..and finally got 650s recently,listened to side by side and on their own(trying not to remember hd600s sound) and ....I find them too buttery,yes,the bass is there(for those who say there's no bass you need to get your ears checked)Sound is fuller,rounder but I miss details hd600s gives me .HD600s with Zen Can XBass feature they sound just right,and the vocals are better on 600s incl details-all in all 6XX seem to dark to my ear taste,So don't always follow trends and what majority say,trying hard to like something only because "everyone"like this or that.
HD 600
Pros :
- Very clear and detailed, it feels snappy.
- Neutral sound which is why many like this.
- Vocal is clear and forward.
Cons:
- Bass is not impactful as you find in a lots of review.
- Soundstage feels definitely narrow and restricted, I could confirm this after hours of usage.
- Not as enjoyable for a casual/normal user. That laid back and smoothness is missing.
HD 650
Pros:
- Much better based and sounds fuller.
- Soundstage is definitely better.
- Very smooth and laid back tune that could be used for hours without fatigue.
- Vocals are darker and recessed, if you like that.
Cons:
- Not as clear or detailed as you may feel when compared with HD 650
- Not neutral sound signature as HD 650
As my HD 650 got damaged I ordered HD 600 after so many wonderful recommendations online but in short it is not as enjoyable and non-fatiguing . So will try now HD 660s or something which is more enjoyable and return HD 600.
Considering enjoyability aspect in mind might be Sennheiser sound engineers tuning the subsequent versions of 600 series (650, 660s, 660s2 etc.) - Kudos to them for these wonderful Open-backs.
I'll just buy HD 650 again if mine get damaged/break.
Can someone help me with an answer that can determine me in purchasing the Sennheiser HD 600:
Can I drive them directly from headphone output of a dedicated sound card from my PC? (in my case M-Audio Revolution 5.1)
Thank you.
Great video. I've been thinking about getting a set of these and am thinking you sold me on the 650's. Thanks.
hi which is best for psytrance which have the most bass? I want only Sennheiser because i heard good stuff about them, I am using right now beyerdynamics, which Sennheiser you could recommend for tekno and psytrance ?
Yes
@@Rsalmond83 ok, thanks
Please re visit this in 2021!
Got a recommendation DAC AMP for HD600 or HD650?
DAC: Schiit Modi
AMP: Schiit Magni
@@juanpaVlz How does the FocusRite Scarlett Solo compare to that combo ?
@@serdariusss5638 oh, Honestly i don't know, since i only had the Magni 2, not Modi. So i can't give you an idea of how that combo sounds. But for what i have read in many places, Modi/Magni is a great combo.
@@serdariusss5638 Solo won't support those headphones to the fullest as those headphones have impedance of 300 ohms while Solo can support only to 200 ohms (impedance is not the only indicator that decides the compatibility). Scarlett Solo of course would still be able to let you use them but not to the fullest quality the headphones can offer. I would recommend you trying the headphones first so you can have the idea whether you actually do need an amp. I also own the Solo and most shops assistants/experts told me that I would need an amp. You can still use the Solo as dac though. Good amp's to think about: Liquid spark, Schiit heresy, topping l30, jds atom or Aune X7s.
Nice overview. whats a good open back headphone for techno and rap beats then?
Philips Fidelio X2, you can thank me later ;)
I would have to say... none. Go closed for techno or rap beats.
x2HR is my best friend.
I can't find the links to test tracks in the description...
You also look like Steve Jobs in this video bro! Big ups haha
link to conclusion in the description would be nice (the time :) . Can you use an EQ to give the 600 bigger bass like the 650?
Good reviev.
Which would be best for My Bloody Valentine? I wouldn't be listening to anything "heavier" than that.
Could someone help me with which one I need for progressive house?
The 600 is better. There's a fuck lot to be said for correct timbre and neutrality. Yes I have both sitting here.
Is there any reason HD599's would sound better than HG650's? Serious question. I just "upgraded" to HD650's and am very underwhelmed. I'm using a Schiit Magni/Modi 3 stack.
Preference, maybe. Could just be more used to one or the other.
@@e_knees8816 I was too used to my 599’s. I developed the ear for the 650’s.
Joshua "a little bit" Valour
if i buy the hd600 and a dac like the Fiio K3 , would i have volume problem since they are 300ohms or? please somebody help.
No, that will get plenty loud.
@@TheRealWarez thank you James, since i have the komplete audio 6 , do i need to hook up the amp to it?
@@jevule130bpm7 No, they are more than enough for HD650, they are quite easy to power, but if you're aiming for studio usage, go for HD600, they are more neutral
hi kids!
KIDS? DID U JUST ASSUME MY AGE?
Yes. Approx. Kid. lol
I want bass which one has more bass
You might want to look into other headphones if bass is what you want
I tried more than hundred headphone and everytime but unfortunately i do not have it 😢
Big problem with the knocks on hd650 over hd600 the hd650 need 200 hour burn in and trust me you will be listening to a completely different experience
And its very important that they get partnered correctly also
Im sorry any headphone review that has not been burnt in is not a fair review straight out of the box not all but most headphones don't sound good straight out of the box
And even ones that already sound good straight out of the box will still improve even further
100 hours at least to 200 hours the latter better cause some take longer than others but 200 covers both ends of the spectrum
To many people dissapointed with there headphones straight out of the box and send them back not there fault not knowing or believing in burn in but gives great headphones bad wrap from inexperienced in these areas
The only obvious answer is to get both.
Great review, I am looking for a neutral headphone, but people are DEAF these days and they can love a headphone with LOTS of brightness and siblinace and with crazy amount of lowend..I am looking for a great headphone with lots of clarity and detail but with with great tonal balancece and flat Frequency response...I just got the beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro that people rave abpout because they say are flat and great but to me are a bit too much in the lowend sounding in a way too boomy and maybe saturated and with lots of brightness
hd 6000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
What about for gaming?
Neither
598
hi daddy
600 for the win.
650s all day everyday forever.
you sound burn the New HD650 60 hours at least , and then listen to them again .
Yifu Cheng I would like to hear the feedback on that.
Had the 650, not really impressed, crap bass and zero soundstage, definitely hyped up. Shure 1840 much better
or your amp is crap if you got any
What's up kids?! Im 36.
Yeah too many copy cats on TH-cam.
well you cant hear $#it any more anyway... just stick with those free ear buds that came with your phone!
I'm over 30, so I kid, I kid. :)
This guy have no clue what hes talking about 650 is darker than 600 not other way
Why are people so obsessed with vocals...
hey kids? Laaaaaaaaame
Kids? REALLY? Voted down.
What about for gaming ?