Overtime: Marianne Williamson, Vivek Ramaswamy | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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OverTime needs to be another hour added.
I think Rogan actually suggested Bill should turn overtime into a podcast that runs 1 or 2 hours.
@Edward Milano
No, Bill is a visual creature, a podcast would cut in half his message
At lease 45mins,IJS.
@@pedrolopes3542 Podcasts are in video form too.
The show needs to die.
Honestly I found Marianne and Vivek to be very well intended. Ideally this is how people with different viewpoints should argue. I loved it when Marianne agreed to Vivek at 8:49 and at then Vivek pointing out that it is a complicated issue anyway. Very respectful. If we really want our intellect to progress, we HAVE to keep our ego aside.
Give everyone shrooms. There doesn't seem to be any other way, 99.5% of people cannot rid themselves of their egos on their own and don't have 30 years to live in a cave meditating
I can learn Mariannes whole policy platform in a dozen sound bites.. Vivek has deep systemic understanding.
Vivek is always a gentleman and never tries to do all the "gotcha crap". Very likable
Yeah.. snow flake that’s how you slap people for their stupid..
Fail their argument and say .. Gotcha
sorry you are having a miserable life. Hope it gets better for you.@@vamsikrishna3855
He got a "fuckin'" into the conversation. I guess he wanted to appear as presidential as trump.
not just Trump, pretty much anyone else except maybe Pence. His swearing makes him more relatable. I had not ever heard him swear before. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. GO VIVEK!@@joelmogensen579
@@joelmogensen579the hell are you talking about?
Easily the best Real Time in a while. Pretty amazing how Marianne and Vivek are on different sides of the aisle yet they agree on so much and there's almost a synergy between them.
No. He's a hard-core Libertarian
Some great back-and-forth between them tonight.
@@DJKairos88 you'd be surprised how often classical libertarians agree with progressives on government corruption and inefficiency. Different ideas on how to fix it but ultimately try to achieve the same goal of a clean and honest government that works for the people.
@@anthonywatson6070 He definitely doesn't understand the layers of private insurance bureaucracy that's added 30-40% of cost to US health care. Profit accounts for a small portion when considering hospital invoicing personnel, insurance company staffing, sales departments, audit, fraud, travel and so on. I have no issue for private insurance companies if it's like that of Europe for those who want private rooms, plastic surgery, and other supplemental coverage. I have issue when we as Americans pay 30-50% more for healthcare than the rest of the world and hospitals hold us hostage with our lives.
@@anthonywatson6070 Indeed. A Hitchens 'progressive' may agree with you.
This was the best discussion on a Bill Maher show in a long time. Actually discussing the issues that effect people instead of the fabricated culture wars.
I'm shocked nobody mentioned the media used to be the referees between big business and the government. They now carry the water for both leaving the people confused and misinformed
Both guests could carry on with/without Bill. I'm so happy to see Marianne Williamson public speaking! A treat to hear her reasonable voice coming from a genuine place of love. I hope she can run for Senator if not President. We need her leadership skills to Unify Independents as a new political party.
A People's Party 😎
What do you mean by "fabricated culture wars" ?
@@SPQR7117 arguments on ideology...?
Always a great conversation when Bill brings on a strong progressive. I hope he does it more often
America needs more of this. Intelligent people sitting down face to face, discussing differences in opinion in a civil way, UNMEDIATED by technology.
Two very intelligent guests this week with opposing viewpoints but great back and forth , my favourite show this year Bill !
It was nice that they were able to respectfully disagree.
@@nunchk9542 Sure, he was intelligent. It's his kind that are ripping people off.
So what's the excuses for slow internet? Outdated electric grid? 60 million people drinking lead? Slow trains?
Marianne is 🗑️
@@nunchk9542 She's incredibly intelligent and just because you don't like what she's saying doesn't make it any less true.
The one dude was smart. Bill is smart. The other guest - not so much.
Vivek brings it every time. Never seen him flustered.
Are these bot comments?
Recommend he skip the F-bomb next time.
@@babyloonbees7037 Aww that's cute. We have 45 K People dying every year because of lack of healthcare and you are more concerned with a fucking word.
The Indian guy voted for his first time in 2020…he is another con man. He knows how to sucker in stupid people…don’t be fooled
@@babyloonbees7037what?
Never have I seen Bill quietly sit and let guests debate at such lengths. What a great show this week. It was New Rules before I knew it was even half way in.
Yes but he needs to shut up even more.
The only problem was that literally EVRYTHING he said about the Canadian "truckers" protest was absolute wank. So spectacularly ignorant of the facts. He just gave cover to a faux movement led by known white supremacists.
Really need some longer interviews. Time to move on when things are just starting to get interesting.
Stupid. The man brings these brains together. Enjoy the fukn show because there will be nothing like this ever again
Why not have Candice Owen as a panelist speaking from the conservative side? Or Mark Levin for that matter! If they're so convinced they are on the right side of things why the fear of rational conversation?
This was an incredible episode full of outstanding guests, stimulating discussions and one quiet, observant host for once. They were like three old friends over for dinner & having a healthy debate by the fireplace. That's how you put on a good show, Bill.
💯 yes indeed!
Best show in months, please watch it again, there was a lot to digest!
Yes, lately I've felt that Bill has been interjecting too much of his own views to the detriment of the guests. But in this case, the guests were quicker than he was and they had a very lively conversation _with each other_ that was productive with minimal interaction from Bill.
He interrupted too many times.
@@Unfamous_Buddha
He does that now. This show used to be great because Bill would have experts on and let them talk ... now, or in the last at least two years he constantly interrupts, and not for any real reason.
I love Vivek. Got his book months ago. It’s awesome. He’s awesome.
Really?
@@annechris2677
Sit your sass down, Anne
He’s terrible.
@@tecumseh4095why is he terrible?
Quality guests with clear ideas and contributions. Engaging topics, real time!
Fucking right my friend!
Vivek is terrific. Good stuff
No way, they didn’t actually say anything.
@@wartome3196 true Vivkic seemed to be stuck on a loop about PPP and Marianne was stuck on the insurance loop.
@@CharlieTWilbury Vivek supports the patriarchy!
Don't want to be that guy, but Marianna's quite smoking for a woman turning 70 this year.
Are you insane? I thought she looked great for a 50 year old
Since both Vivek and Marianne are running for president, imagine these two being the democratic and republican nominees and they debate each other on the presidential debate stage in 2024!!!
He's gonna talk over her!
Yea okay, you think the American ppl can pick anyone else other than Biden or Trump? they're too lazy
Vivek would obliterate her lol
These are the types of conversations intelligent Americans need to be having. Brilliant panel discussion.
except the poor woman (who's mostly talking rubbish) ain't allowed to finish what she wants to say as the other two tend to overpower her on this occasion.
@@rakoczi29 She ain't talking rubbish. She is telling the truth very few in mainstream ever admit to.
try watching the BBC Question Time once
@@rakoczi29 Bill is guilty of interrupting his panelists as well. If I was subjected to that, I would lose my train of thought. I’d also feel frustrated and pissed off.
It's BS excuses for the private system to keep on looting the people
Again Vivek, drug companies sell their products in Canada and European countries with price controls on drugs because they make money doing it. They don't need to price gouge Americans to make a profit. They are making a tidy profit in Canada too. They price gouge us because they can. Not because they have to.
Not to mention the fact that a lot of the R&D spending for some of these new drugs is also on the taxpayer dime.
Yeah, he's just making excuses for immoral excessive greed
Don't know Ramaswamy, but he seemed a little too willing to defend a system that has proved disastrous for many Americans. He talked fast and furiously and didn't leave much room for Williamson to respond or defend her position.
@@paleviking . Exactly.
They make almost zero money in Europe, that’s just an objective fact
Vivek running for office actually gives me some hope. He’s well-informed, articulative, finds common ground w/ opponents without conceding his ideas, and has good instincts.
Yep!
Nah, he just relegates petty culture war issues at to being the cause of corporate and government corruption, he has no interest in cutting into the socioeconomic stratification that is plaguing the current state of affairs
@@adenizenabroad9593 🤡
@adenizenabroad9593 literally said break down the market and hand the money to the people. I've never voted republican in my life but you gotta admit he's hitting home on that
We’ve had politicians like Vivek before. Unfortunately it’s the Trumps and Bidens who end up winning. The really sad thing is that Trump won’t debate Vivek and Biden won’t debate RFK. And neither need to, because there are enough partisans ready to elect them regardless of what they say or do.
So glad you gave your guests plenty of room to speak tonight with minimal interruptions
This! Fuckin' let them go at it! The show was lightyears better tonight for it.
He let one of the guests do all the interrupting for him
The guests were intelligent and eloquent-no need to constantly interrupt
Bill.
Help ! HELP US BILL.
You're like a yapping Chawla.
Never mind.
It ain't your job.
Bill is pro pharma.
Universal healthcare would solve SO many problems. AND save money
On paper it sounds great but it’s foolish to believe the Federal Government would be able to efficiently manage it. They already have too many responsibilities, which they’re failing at. How many times do people have to get screwed over before they realize that giving the Federal Government more money is not the answer?
@@bcon2608 They manage it okay in Canada and other countries with universal healthcare.
It's been shown that it CAN be done in other countries, so we know it's possible, so the USA can make it happen as well. No excuses.
How? We have 50 different states. We also have the most obese population of every Country in the world. We spout freedom every chance that we get. So people vape and smoke and weed is legal almost everywhere. Alcoholism and opiate addiction is a pandemic. Yeah paying for rehab ad nauseam because it doesn't work will save money.
When the government operates efficiently, I'll sign on to medicare for all.
@@therightway2412 Google healthcare spending per capita by country. Google healthcare outcomes per capita by country. The US ranks dead last in outcomes and has BY FAR the most spending per person. You pay more for healthcare here than in Canada and receive worse care. Note that Canada is also a very bad healthcare system.
Vivek answer to everything is to shut it down lol
The addied up guy is simpin for the status quo, and the private Healthcare insurances and drug companies. What he said happens in Europe is total bs, private drug companies in the US are the innovators? They are heavily subsidized by Taxpayer money but their profits do not go back to the Taxpayers they go to their majority shareholders and ceos.
@@therightway2412 common sense and public record. You work for private insurance or drug company?
@@therightway2412 ask Vivek where his evidence is.
@@therightway2412 I wasn't making a political point i was making an economic one, and I was saying he was simpin for private Healthcare and big pharma which he was , if you want proof look up all the subsidies that go into our private Healthcare system they are a matter of public record.
That guy on the left never takes a breath and interrupts constantly...extremely annoying.
Not only that, he had nothing valuable to say and prevented the conversation from maturing.
@@oldfreakinflorida6936 100% True. He was just trying to bring up points from his book and tie them into the conversation to sell his book, even when the points weren't relevant!
If Overtime had gone for an hour with these guests, I'd have still been here watching it. This panel was phenomenal.
Totally agree!
the show should be an 1 hour of overtime, at least
Phenomenal? She is a utter halfwit and not worth giving the time of day. Lol If you find her remarkable, join a MLM.
maybe if they would talk with each other and would not just shout Bills opinion down at everyone who has different opinions than he has.
@@ralphalf5897 i guess you weren't listening
"People in a system respond to incentives." - Vivek Ramaswamy
If more people understood that simple concept, we would be solving many more problems - and we would understand why the founders wanted the smallest government possible.
What's wrong with the government providing incentives?
@@thewaffle003 Because its a nightmare bureaucracy
@@littledickydolittle3071 So get good people in there who run it right. Gov't is supposed to be a tool of the people. Let's make it that way
@@thewaffle003 The US government was never intended to be a "tool of the people". The US government was intended to protect the individual's natural rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If you want government to shape society by incentives and coercion, move to China or N. Korea.
@@bills5009 The government is a "tool of the people" designed to protect the individual's natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Can you stop repeating what I'm saying?
I appreciated everyone in this conversation. We need a third party that marries these ideas 💡 btw I’m a pharmacist and the way to reduce costs is to let Medicare use collective bargaining to negotiate lower prices, something they’re explicitly prohibited from doing bc of a law Big pharma lobbied for. Bill is 100% right, the major culprit is pharma
The bureaucracy is the problem because governments are the problem
@@michaelferri6790 I’ve never heard anyone other than authoritarians say this though… unless we count anarcho-communists.
And there are about 9 of them.
I agree about big pharma, but to say the insurance companies aren't a problem is a fallacy.
I like what you're saying, but at least Pharmaceuticals are necessary.
But insurance? Not. At. All.
It has certainly worked in Australia. We have the PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme)
This is the first time in a long time I have seen speakers talk about the real problem, mainly the disparity of wealth in America, which is ever widening, and the reason behind that. Also that our entire government is corrupt. Government officials are bought by corporations, and then these Congress people vote in favor of whatever the corporations want. We need to get more discussions like this, especially from the average citizen.
So you enjoyed hearing three wealthy, privileged people speak on wealth disparity as if though these people aren't the ones who don't want to give it up? Really?!
@@linger4605 your response gives me the impression that you either didn't watch this episode or didn't understand who was making which points.
@@aaguadam You obviously didn't understand my point.
Because they have taken control of all trigger narratives and keep people fighting each other and losing the class struggle.
I am in 100% full support of Vivek. Vivek is a man of impeccable characters. He would revolutionize this nation, revive the economy, bring unification of the people of both GOP and Democrats, cause AMERICA STRONG revival and reset the course of this nation as the U.S. President.
How many of those who listen to his visions and commitment to the People of America, can disagree with me on Vivek Ramaswamy?
God picks and uses an unthinkable person, Vivek, who is not afraid to say his faith in Hindu, for reasons that we cannot comprehend. We should not vote Trump just because what Trump accomplished. God removed Trump and allowed Joe Biden for God's reasons. We wouldn't have learned of Bidens sell-out of America to CCP. Sure we the GOP were very sad with the election outcomes and could not comprehend why God did that.
We must use our discernment to choose a GOP presidential candidate. Vivek Ramaswamy is about a half of Trump's age yet his intellectual level, energy, commitment, surpasses Trump's. I foresee Vivek sits at an international diplomatic stage, looks straight in eyes with no fear, and draws hearts of free world leaders to aid Vivek's efforts in defeating the power of our enemies. Vivek's ways of approach will bring greater causes than Trump ever did. Arise, Vivek.
My late husband got sick while stationed overseas. He received an MRI at a public Spanish hospital. Our bill was $300 for it, it was charged to military insurance. I saw someone's bill when we were back stateside for the same issue that was $8600 for the same MRI. The problem is that Healthcare is for profit in this country. The insurance companies negotiate their rates heavily because they actually know the ACTUAL cost of Healthcare from overseas data. Healthcare is for profit in this country... that's the issue... its immoral to make money on the pain and suffering of others.
As a Spanish citizen, when I'm ill, my bill at the end is $0.
Everything in the USA is for profit.
A similar thing happened to my daughter when she was an intern in France. She got a knee injury. She had to go to the hospital and get physical therapy as well. She got concerned when she never received a bill for her treatment. She went to the Hospital and asked about the bill. The receptionist said, "There is no bill. We have universal health care here."
@@ohbeammeup42 Yes, so Ramaswarmy's solution is for the government to do away with Medicaid and Medicare and dole out money so people can go purchase private health insurance. I'm sure that would fix the problem in our for profit health care system. "Hey, look, I got a new policy with only a $10,000 deductible from money the government gave me. I should be okay now." LOL.
@@wildfire60 that's one of the fallacies of the Republican talking point to shop around and let the market decide price. It's a monopoly and there's also price fixing.
I think Vivek got into Donnie Jr.'s powder stash.
@Red Comet Nervous enough that I checked the speed on the video when he started talking. 🤣
Lol!
Or Ricky Williams’ Adderall.
"The French aristocrats a week before the masses made it to the Bastille" Marianne sees it coming
Espérons !
She does indeed!
@@rockonmadonna Boycottez notre comté s'il vous plait!
There was only one prisoner in the Bastille at the time of its storming. An aristocrat: the Marquis de Sade. Just saying.
@@davidyohalem629 i think there were seven prisoners in the Bastille at that time.
SERIOUSLY VIVEK ! Drug companies spend more on advertising than they do on research. Much drug research is done at colleges and universities and is done on the taxpayer's dime. Go home and get a clue.
Had thought she was a joke. I was wrong!!! If I could go back in time I'd redo my primary vote.
Don't worry
you were right
She is a joke
Tune in to her talkshow on YT. She's constantly brilliant.
Marianne is right on, take out the insurance middle men. Bill is correct: stop the gougers from gouging. A bag of saline and an MRI should not cost 6000 dollars. Vivek is also correct: other countries are riding on the back of US medical innovation. Take profit out of the medical system.
2:30 - Funny, Vivek Ramaswamy is talking about finding a new way at the same time he is basically saying it should the same old capitalism - no other ideas, no explanation of what might be the "defects" in the system that need consideration and fixing? He is a business guy ... so why can he not approach this as he would if it was a failure in a part of his business ... he's just BS'ing everyone. That guy I just find his hypocrisy semi-Trump-like and so blatant.
but he talks fast and waves his hands so he must be right
@@direwolf6234
LOL
Agreed. Although Marianne can get out there sometimes, I think she made some very valid points.
This was an excellent show this week. Bill sat back and let the guests go at it.
Yeah.. I was watching this during insomnia, but I kept hearing him discuss some problem and be vaguely pointing in the right direction but then go off on these wonky tangents (while complaining about people with other wonks) that didn't sound like solutions at all.
He sounded very much like a CEO type that doesn't really know what it's like on the assembly line. She was very accurate in saying that all three of them were outside the group they were talking about.
@@dreamcoyote he's from private prep harvard & yale so he's clueless
the rich get rich the poor get poorer
One thing I’ve noticed about Vivek is how well he listens. He seems genuinely interested in what the other side has to say. He may disagree and try to tear it down but always listens when opposing viewpoints are brought up.
Love these 3 people, very different but they have their heart at the right place. They actually do want to improve people’s lives.
Yeah, Vivek especially wants to improve his own life.
Marianne has no idea what she is talking about with regards to Economics and Healthcare. God I hope she doesnt run for office again.
I liked Vivek and Marianne's interactions. Because they might seem like opposites but they aren't necessarily. A lot of corporate power comes from the corporate/congress interactions from the government dabbing into the economy and then justifying lobbying as a "necessary evil for proper representation of regulated parties".
We need to ban lobbying and put up a wall between the government and corporations. Instead of subsidising and regulating every aspect of healthcare, we need make health insurance public sector and only issue standards for which the insurance covers.
@@rollinmark8952 exactly! She fail so many time lmao
I was Vivek’s chauffeur. Cool, down to earth cat.
This conversation is awesome.
One thing to remember is the insurance/Healthcare provider interaction. The "$15000 for a hip replacement" is generally a fake number from the hospital demanded by the insurance companies so they can claim they had to pay $15000 while only paying $1000. Then they can pocket the other $14000 while still not touching into their profit limits. This is where a lot of that "only 11 billion in profit" comes from. They are making WAY more profit than that, but they don't have to claim most of it as profit, because they get to claim they are paying a fake price.
The insurance companies need to go.
"they don't have to claim most of it as profit, because they get to claim they are paying a fake price."
So the insurers are claiming they're paying the full price to the IRS? And the SEC? And no one has caught them (and their auditors) yet in a massive fraud?
Insurers definitely pay a negotiated price to hospitals, but there's no magic money that gets "pocketed". Premiums - expenses = profit.
Bill is wrong about the $11B though.... last year, just Cigna made that much in profit.
WebX - but where does the other $14000 come from? So, last year I had a surgical procedure down. My doc billed the insurance $6000. Ins Co. comes back and says "no way, Jose" we will pay you $4000. The Doc excepts it because the rates have all been pre-determined anyway. So again, in my case, where would The $2000 come from? It doesn't even exist, does it? Help a brother out her Web
@@rollinmark8952 It's considered a "loss carry-forward" --- it reduces their taxes, so it's effectively income.
@@cheponis Ahhh yes, Thank you Mike
@@holycrapchris Agreed. The insurance companies do make a profit (Cigna has around 5% profit margin), but they're not in cahoots with the hospitals to pocket money on the side.
Vivek and Marianne is the ultimate crossover.
They get along, but boy are they different.
This was the best show I've seen all year. Great guests and opinions 👍
Touche: Bill wasn't BITCHING over MASKS, canceled GIGS & his TAX RATES (too much)
While everyone was freaking out about COVID, the world's biggest wealth transfer happened right under our noses through these relief packs.
That's what happens when you lockdown small businesses, but allow Walmart to be open.
Yeah the massive amounts of money given to American people through unemployment. The monsters. You people just prove over and over that the only people that regurgitate this progressive nonsense are middle class people. People that know nothing about benefits or unemployment. Child tax credits and earned income credit. Just rich kids virtue signaling to other rich kids.
When you inflate your currency that happens once the interest rates start going up prices will stabilize and you will realize that there really wasn’t a wealth transfer
When things first shut down, every state's unemployment system was overrun. ALL of them had issues, some with capacity (systems were designed with hard maximums of "users"), some with just about everything you can think of.
In order to efficiently and effectively have dealt with this situation the groundwork already needs to be in place. You can slap in some more servers, hire some more teleworkers, etc but you need to be ready for scaling.
In terms of supporting businesses who were forced to close their doors, there really wasn't any infrastructure to see into the situation let alone provide direct assistance. States are underfunded and you have to be willing to invest a bit more to make existing systems flexible enough to respond to emergencies.
I don't want to live in China, but their single very-hard handed system lets them "just do it" when it needs to get done. Our system.. totally inept. Businesses had to go to banks for PPP. Businesses who didn't have strong relationships with bigger banks had no shot :(. No one had even bothered to figure out how to addresses businesses in a big emergency like a pandemic.
And Kim Kardashian got ppp loan for over 1 million; make that make sense to me🙄
Marianne is not bright.
Great Show this week Bill. This show actually felt like a Dialogue as opposed to differences of opinion!! Yourself and your 2 well spoken and intelligent guests made the show very informative!! BRAVO! We need more of this. No doubt something drastically needs to happen to Our Country and it’s political system. I remember ( I think it was back in 1970 ) I was 18 years old. There was an announcement on the news that the United States Government had just become the Country’s Largest Employer. That’s right, more people were working for the U.S. Government than in the Private Sector!! This was the 1st sign of the shit show it had the chance to become.
One point I’d like to make Bill is this. The Government is always trying to fix Healthcare like they don’t know how to make Healthcare work. They seem to have it worked out just fine for themselves. So, it’s not that they don’t know how to do it, it’s the fact they don’t want us having as good as they do!! With Our Money I might add!!!!
Well said. Thank you.
In 2020, more ppl were working for the government than any single company. that doesn't mean there are more people in the public sector vs the private sector.
THAT IS BECAUSE: THE UNITED STATES MILITARY SEES THE STRATEGIC, TACTICAL, AND HONORABLE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING PERSONNEL THAT HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION AND GOOD HEALTHCARE. THE CIVILIANS IN THIS COUNTRY NEED TO LEARN A THING OR TWO FROM THE MILITARY. The civilians won't have a choice with all these wars the military keeps losing. The chickens will come home to roost. The civilians will have to learn how to SURVIVE in this world if they are going to make it.
dialogue ? they kept interrupting and talking over Marianne !
Fucking Libertarian Vivek should have been shut-up with MEDICARE COST 2% overhead compared to 20%+ private insurer !
@@moestietabarnak they interrupted her a few times, but there were far fewer interruptions this week than in most episodes.
That’s right, more people were working for the U.S. Government than in the Private Sector!!
you heard wrong.
from google:
In 2020, ... than the number of federal government (civilian) employees, which stood at about 2.93 million
what you probably heard was more ppl were working for the government than any single company.
that's probably true.
Bring them back and just let them talk. I could not get enough of their wonderful dialogue.
Vivek Ramaswamy is brilliant. I can't recommend his book "Woke, Inc." enough.
I went to school with him. He's not. He's an arrogant nerd
@@kcailly1 what have you accomplished? Vivek's accomplishment and work spoke for himself
Thanks for letting us know. I will check it out!
As Americans who care about our freedom we have to to make sure everyone knows how amazing he is!
@@kcailly1 you base a mans character on how he was in high school? Please stop.
I love Bill's glasses.
He looks like a NASA nerd from the 1960's.
I want those frames.
Why is this being upvoted? These are different frames.
more like jack benny ..
Excellent show! The guests were engaging and spot on. Really wish there was a third party to vote for in this country with legitimate candidates.
There are 4 parties in this country. Green, Democrat (Blue), Republican (Red), and Libertarian (Gold). If you want Green and Gold to have more power, start supporting them instead of writing them off.
@@abigailhubbard1055Yeah, no. Throwing your vote away only diminishes your political power.
I feel Marianne Williamson, diddn't get a fair chance to explain her views on socialized medicine. To sum it up, socialized medicine for Americans:
Cost for doctors visit - $0, cost for surgery - $0, cost to visit any specialist - $0, cost for cancer treatment - $0, cost for hospitalization - $0. You will have free healthcare. Prescription drugs would become more reasonable when govt negotiates drug prices to reasonable levels. This would have an overall implication in taxes Americans pay. You would see a genuine 3% increase in income taxes for individuals (where higher your income, more % you pay towards healthcare, can be capped at some amount) and a 4% increase in wages corporate taxes called employee health insurance tax. This is a fantastic deal in the long run, considering you wouldn't need to pay for your health from your own pockets and weakens the role of insurance companies significantly.
Other nations are able to provide exellent healthcare to their citizens because their systems are not" for profit".
Marianne Williamson was actually incredible,
she was saying nonstop great point after great point
@Sebastian “Capitalism will solve all our problems 😃” - Vivek
That's great and all but nothing will change with the Republicans or Democrats.
Watch her talkshow here on YT. She's quite brilliant and rightly-guided. You come away thinking: why was she scorned and overlooked so quickly in presidential primaries?
Vivek 24!
Best episode of 2022 so far.
This episode had a much different mood than any I've seen so far you could feel it. Bill Maher is unintentionally becoming the unifying voice for people that are just sick of it.
The reaction to the crowd when Vivek spoke made me optimistic. He knows exactly what’s going on. I haven’t read his book but I’m ordering it now. Stakeholder capitalism aka The Great R eset is NOT the answer.
@@brainchildguru the smoke is starting to clear and everyone is noticing it. Fringe movements are starting to fizzle and will be reduced to small minorities of whackos fighting each other on the internet for their communist revolution or 4th Reich, while the masses form their own group of pissed off working class people.
Bill was ill informed to the point of stupidity on the protests in Canada.
He should be embarrassed, do a tiny bit of research, and apologize.
@@jimmcdonald678 he got himself out of it pretty easily but playing dumb abs admitted he wasn't following it.
Bill’s show has gotten increasingly important. To see a historically left wing individual stay in tune with his ideals yet not bow down to woke ideology is refreshing.
Marianne is a great guest.
Hard to believe she is 69
@@andiman45 Holy shit, I had no idea who she was and would've pegged her at like 45, 50 tops. Good on her.
@spider liberty successful, accomplished author, and you?....whats your name again? LOL
@spider liberty good that you made that comparison with AH and DJT in the same breath. They deserve each other
Marianne Williamson is right, not enough people can get into the party, but that's not because of capitalism, it's because capitalism is being thwarted by cronyism and massive corporations.
The point Marianne misses is that not everyone is supposed to get into the party. This isn’t AYSO where every kid gets a trophy. In general, those who work the hardest get rewarded the most. If you try get equal outcomes for everyone, motivation and innovation disappear. Marianne needs to visit some communist countries and take a history and economics class. Same with AOC
Capitalism means the means of production are in private control. That’s it. It doesn’t matter if there is cronyism or not.
@@TheZachary86 Hypothetically, what would you call it when the government tells private property owners what they can and can't do? So, even though the means of production are still technically privately owned, the owners don't have the freedom to do what they want with it. Would you still call that capitalism? I'd call it fascism.
@@Phl3xable the gov't tells companies they can't dump crap in the river .. is that facism .. ??
@@Phl3xable Marianne calls it Fascism and then she says the government should run everything. She’s not very consistent
Ramaswamy with Marianne! Engaged and each spot on. Wonderful Overtime💓
I agree, but Ramaswamy was in fact more informed than Marianne
Ironically, Marianne showed the least amount of magical thinking. Bill and the Biotech guy were highly animated but even more highly unconvincing.
She says all the buzz words and brings zero solution to the table. Cone to think of it she’s the perfect democratic candidate. Complain, virtue signal and over promise and if elected NOTHING will change.
@@theclamhammer4447 poo poo pee pee
@@theclamhammer4447 That's the definition of a Republican. Gaslighting culture wars, promising nonsense and not even delivering on the nonsense.
Why was Vivek unconvincing
@@wjs010ifyVivek seems like an idealistic capitalist. Eg, 'we just need the government to get out of the way and we need everyone to act ethically and capitalism will be a perfect system. ' Marianne made painfully obvious points like that capitalism doesn't account for all costs to society, and insurance companies lobby against a national health care system.
My point is just that I expect her to be the idealistic fantasy thinker and the Republican to be some sort of you know concrete realist and the exact opposite turned out to be true
Best show so far this year.
Agreed. Felt like the old Real Time tonight.
What to me, as an European, is one of the strangest aspects of the American discussion about the health care system is how little reference is made to the health care systems of other countries. Here in Europe, we have a wide range of different health care systems, almost all of which work better than the U.S. system. There is something for everyone, from completely government-run to those that are based on private insurance at their core. In the U.S., problems are constantly being discussed for which other countries have long since shown the workable solution.
but misinformed people like on this show don't look at that .. too bad
Sweden isn't doing too good with middle eastern refug keep coming like every week lmao
Between the FUD mathmatics (like what Bill read about %80 taxes), to comparisons of populations and, my favourite, that "that country has a more homogenous population" (which is basically saying if we didn't have all these ____ people here), most people don't have any idea how any other system works. Most people don't know how it worked in the US 25 years ago or that the system was massively changed as recently as Nixon.
The constant cheer of "we're #1" is somehow more important than people getting healthcare in this country :(. Sadly, I think we'd rather keep claiming we are the best than actually (even remotely) *being* the best.
There are subtle shifts. I live in Maryland where the state has normalized hospital pricing and hospitals are rewarded for outcomes. It's a critical step towards single-payer insurance and it does take some time (10-15 years in Maryland). That has led to more efficiency in the system (skipping out on some "filler" procedures) and lower costs for important/effective treatments. It also means when the hospital can't do anything more for you, they get you out *that day*. They get you out to a nursing care facility or send you home, but that's part of the increased efficiency (just seems harsh).
I think most people just know high insurance rates, super-high deductibles, and commercials on TV that say that if Medicare gets to negotiate drug prices, no more new drugs will be developed (aka Wall Street will take it's ball and go home and we'll be like.. *before* big pharma :/ ). There's a lot of crap commercials making people terrified that our horrible situation could actually become worse.
@@Ryanlexz that is not a thing
@@Ryanlexz this is about health care don't change the subject ..
How many Friggin red bulls did that guy drink?
Calm down man.
I have lived in europe for 13 years, this whole socialized medicine allows people to:
1. visit their doctors as many times as they need(granted, some take that for granted)
2. it's not free, people pay for it.
3. doctors are situated to best meet
population.
4. there is a gov't agency that puts a cap
on drug prices, so companies can't jack
up the prices for profit.
this fearmongering that politicians use in u.s. is crazy.
the above mentioned were in netherlands, so other countries are slightly different.
True and Europe is broke 😩
@@oliveoil7642 Europe and U.S. financially are bankrupt, what I mentioned was true then, now it is a bit different, more expense. but compared to us, Netherlands and Western Europe still have better healthcare outcome than u.s because there is no big business involved, there is a cap per health agency, and there is less per capita spending. in u.s, gross mis management, we spend more per American, yet we are screwed.
@@oliveoil7642 So is America...And I would rather our country be broke and each citizen have healthcare than our country be broke and folks don't have healthcare. Further, we are bigger than Europe and last I checked, supposedly exceptional...you don't think we can come up with a BETTER system?..
Let’s compare the health of the average American to your average Swede or Norwegian.. that’s the real reason why healthcare is so broken and expensive here .. it’s the substrate
Can Vivek please share his sources? I’m reserving judgement until he can back up what he’s saying. I’m extremely skeptical about his claim that we wouldn’t have innovation without the US gouging people on drug prices.
You can go on google and find a lot of information about it, but just think for a second... do you think it's just a coincidence that the vast majority of all new medications are produced by US pharma companies?
It's a bogus argument. There's always money in sick people, even if you don't fleece them.
Besides China is investing government money in order to get on top so it's not like the private companies alone can are that effective
@@Phl3xable because its not true. Only a third of the biggest top 20 drug companies are from the United States. And by revenue the two biggest companies are from Switzerland aka Europe.
How many of those drugs are just rebranded medicines that came from government labs or the university system?
But we should also double the size of the FDA to require them to look into cheap and non-patentable drugs, along with medicines that are being used outside of the US.
Better then the woman who only care about making more money from insurance and big pharma companies lmao
Love the fired up panel tonight and bill you took a backseat which is so cute
Whatever rate they're taxing Bill at, it's not enough.
Excellent debate and banter between the guests. Tonight‘s was an excellent show!
This Woke guy is the Worst
Because facts about the real world bother you.
This was a perfectly balanced panel. This was one of the best Bill Maher episodes I've seen. They all spoke clearly and let each other speak.
Whoever that jerk in the audience tonight that kept whooping and yelling every 10 seconds should be banned from all future shows.
Seriously. That guy was driving me nuts. Don’t they have ushers? Now he can go home and tell all his meatball friends, “You hear that? That’s me yelling over and over again.” Cheap thrills
He's there every time. They need to take his season tickets away
@@Creamy6oodness it’s probably Bill Maher’s producer. He’s thinking, “I’m making $1,000 per joke tonight.” Whoo whoo
This is the greatest episode ever. Bruh I’m so high
lol
Marianne Williamson is clear-minded, sharp and fair. The same cannot be said of the snake worshipper. Besides wanting only to sell his book, it's clear Vivek Ramaswamy bristles from both sides of his mouth, where each side does not know what the other side blows out.
One of the smartest things I ever heard someone say on tv. The rich and powerful can’t see the world the way normal people do.
No two people see the world same way.
Great panel. Guests like Marianne have long memories and remember a time when the MSM wasn't enforcing ideological neutrality and when politics wasn't just glorified informational management. Important to listen to her, if not buy into all the woowoo.
Wow Marianne is so likeable
Listening to Vivek Ramaswamy talk reminds me of a bit of advice I got decades ago: Never trust anybody who sounds like a 33-1/3 LP being played at 78 RPM while still speaking in complete sentences.
Since the debate was about healthcare, naturally I assumed he was the voice-over guy who rapidly recites the side effects of medicines in commercials.
Yeah, because of him I clicked the speed setting to .75!
Yeah, he's like the guy who's always like, "And ya know what's really interesting about [x] is that [etc. etc.]" to distract from what's being said
He is mother tongue is Malayalam (from Kerela, India). Malayalam is the fastest spoken language in the world, and the people from Kerela speak English very fast too
If he was black, there's 0 chance you would have said this.
Funny how Bill suddenly becomes a conservative now that he’s paying 52% in taxes. Welcome to club, pal.
Not a clever thing, because the red states are even worse heck those people vote for politics which kill them faster
Marianne schooled these clowns.
Here in Belgium and most of europe we have a perfect health care plan
Everybody has coverage
The gop just don't want the people to have it, because than they can give less tax cuts to they rich friends
God I hope Marianne primaries Biden if he stupidly runs again. Need a strong and principled progressive to run again in 2024 if Bernie can't go one last time.
VIVEK 2024!
Good discussion arguing mostly facts instead of grossly biased moronic opinions
@Sebastian True.
Bill it's really good to see you back🙂
He's been back for a month-you been sampling Ricky Williams' product? 😄
Universal Healthcare would drop EVERYTHING TO ZERO. And everything medical would have to bid their services into the healthcare system under universal. Drs, nurses, techs, therapists, all of the whole industry starts at Zero amd need to negotiate everything. Healthcare is no longer gonna create millionaires.
This show needed to be longer. Even overtime wasn't enough.
Bill should have a long form podcast
@@dougatfuto5 He was great on Rogan.
While we're talking about stopping the gouging, please note 1) Medicare/Medicaid already negotiate with hospitals and other medical services for much better rates than hospitals charge direct to patients -- and in many cases private insurance -- and 2) please note that the BBB plan finally allowed Medicare to negotiate the prices of the most common prescription drugs and cover hearing aids. But guess who nixed that? Finally, please look up administrative costs of Medicaid and Medicare. Way cheaper than private insurance. So, I know there's this increasing loud complaint from Bill and panelists about how inefficient government is and while that's true for many things, please see the examples where government is doing a pretty damn good job. And could do an even better job, if there weren't certain groups purposely trying to sabotage them and then using the results of purposeful sabotage as evidence of government inefficiency. Sorry, if so-called "liberal" California actually caters to the wealthy, because the wealthy are the one who can actually afford to live there, because rich people drive up the prices and shape policy; but please don't over-rely on California as the example of when liberals rule. Please check out imperfect states like Massachusetts, who have some pretty neat social policies in place, and have such awesome outcomes that they get to have their data separated out from the rest of the U.S. in global data.
You have never been on medicaid. You can regurgitate what you hear all day long but when they only allow you to see one specialist a year and you have multiple problems it isnt much help. If your Dr retires or decides covid is a better way to make money you might have to wait until January to get a new one. They have cut prescription costs. There is nobody trying to sabotage them. Drs just do not want Medicaid patients because they make less money and have more cancellations.
Bill's facts are both wrong and all over the map. Look at Canada with a healthy medicare. The great majority of people don't pay 50 per cent in taxes!
@@Onthebrink5 Actually, my family has indeed been on Medicaid. In two states. Both run really well. I also have friends who have been on Medicaid and they also were satisfied. For others who may not be aware, the states actually administer the program. The federal side provides the funding, but the individual states handle the actual side that patients see. So, if your state sucked at delivering Medicaid services, then it's your state, run by people you elected. Not the federal side. Again, the two states my family received Medicaid services, it worked pretty well. Seeing a specialist was never a problem. Just needed to find the right fit for a complicated case, which would've been the same with private insurance. (The only way to really get around that is to be wealthy and NOT need any insurance. Then, when you're totally loaded, the world is your oyster.) But perhaps it's because we lived in more populated areas (less populated areas have provider shortages, regardless of private insurance or Medicaid, so that's not Medicaid's fault) and areas that actually tried to serve those in poverty.
Then, I know folks on Medicare (again same two states) and they LOVE their Medicare. Again, it's funded with federal tax dollars, but administered by the individual states. So, if your state Medicare sucks, blame the state and the folks you elected to oversee it.
@@g.e.b.8159You are attempting to compare a Country with 50 people int it. To a Country with 50 different states that all have different laws, different culture and different political representation. Please elaborate on what social trust is and why it is soooo important for universal benefits if you can.
This is the guy who was in the republican debates - wow! I lost a lot of respect for him in the debates. Marianne has my vote, the two are complete opposites.
Those mens talked over her. I wanted to hear her answer to the government fuck ups. That was relevant, and I think she's thought about it too.
Bill brings up a very valid point…the spending is ridiculous and unfocused.
How far human civilization can go if everyone works together... ..
Not far, because that will be against evolutionary forces
@@Manish_Kumar_Singh ever heard of E.O. Wilson?
@@eemoogee160
Na, but if he is a man of science, he too will not disagree
Well, it really depends on attitude. Even when those chose to work together it doesn't always work. I.E. The kalmar Union.
@@Manish_Kumar_Singh look it up Einstein
Where they have socialized medicine they also don’t give the sugar industry and junk food industry a table to make laws. They have warnings on food - food is making so many people sick and that’s very expensive
Marianne is amazing. She cuts through the bullshit like a hot knife through butter.
She another big pharma greed
@@Ryanlexz by demanding we get single payer insurance that would make negotiation more difficult for pharmaceuticals?
No she doest. She speaks in platitudes. Whenever nuance arose, she froze
Excellent discussions. This is one of the best shows I've seen .
Only real political show and for wonks.
Marianne is my favorite "politician". The trouble has been that she's been too far ahead of everybody. NOW is the time - do it Marianne! 🌟. The biggest project I look at to confirm the "all talk" no action government/corporate gravy train (all paid for by your tax dollars) are all the Climate Change "Conferences" and outcome....
72 western countries have free health care Bill. Expand your mindset outside of the USA.
it's not 'free' as taxes cover costs that are less than insurance ..
Maher has always made a point that Americans are unhealthy and paying for the costs of healthcare while never addressing American diets is never going to add up.
Because they’re free riding off of us
@@bendover2425 they don't spend 600 billion per year on overkill weapons systems
@@direwolf6234 yeah and they don’t pay their share into NATO according to our agreement. We provide defense to all of Europe, Israel, the rest of our middle eastern allies, and south east Asia. Then on top of that everyone including China reaps the benefits of our medical and pharma R&D
Probably the most informative show I’ve watched in a while!
I agree.
I'm worried if the Daily Show will be able to compete. but then again, Stephen Colbert still gets a lot of clicks and his show doesn't teach me anything!
I couldn't follow it because the Indian was speaking so quickly.
@@jsbankston1963 He's an American.
You want to help healthcare in America? You need to divorce the marriage between employers and health insurance.
The entire point of the free market is to allow the consumer to pick and choose which product or service they want. That way only the good products receive money and the bad products failed and are weeded out.
But with the way the insurance system is set up right now, the employees (the customers and the end-users) aren't buying the product. The employer is buying the product, and they don't give a shit how good it is or not.
If we separate the two, you'll receive more income, and you'll be able to shop around and choose which insurance you want specifically for your needs. The insurance that provides the best service will receive more money, and the market will follow suit.
It is how every single other private health insurance market works across the world.
It doesn't matter which system you employ, corruption will stuff it up if it's left to thrive.
The first goal of any system of social regulation is to do it's best to eliminate corruption in all it's various forms. If you don't do that, you loose in every arena.
Until that is the priority and practical measures are taken to minimise corruption, the system will always benefit the corrupt over the general population. You will also be training that population that cheating is the best way to win.
You can literally trace the corruption all the way back to when the failed #warondrugs began. Perhaps a little further with #alcohol #prohibition. Remember you *NEEDED* a doctor's Rx to get your liquor back then. People were self medicating then, and they are still doing it today. You can't legislate human behavior this way. Now we just have wasted $1,000,000,000 filling prisons full of non-violent drug offenders, and addicts dying in the streets due to the doctors refusing to write them Rx's for medications out of fear of being nailed by the DEA, so they get street drugs laced with fentanyl and die. This happened with alcohol during prohibition as well, the government tainted alcohol on purpose to "deter" it's use and people still drank it and died. #theplantswon #thewarondrugs #endit
@@JShdwstar
You can trace the origins of corruption in all arenas of law, government and business to the foundation of civilisation itself. The problem is not that it occurs in any particular area, it's that it's possible in all areas.
Until you change a culture in which corruption is lauded, you won't be able to pursue systemic counter measures to corruption and everyone has to suffer the consequences.
The problem is bb that capitalism is based on. Theft and usury so it will always be a few taking advantage of the many
lose*
Yeah. I'm actually for cutting medicare entitlements. Its better to invest in the children With Medicaid we neglect anyway that have to disproportionately pay the bill from demographics and poor policy.
A little perspective about the "Freedom" convoy in Ottawa: one in 1000 truckers is in it. Their organizers are known Yellow Vests, Alberta separatists and fundraising at the platform of The Proud Boys. They're big and loud but a tiny minority hijacking our flag and words like "freedom" 🇨🇦
@@therightway2412 I grew up in Eastern Europe under communism, have been a Canadian by choice for over 20 years - and love to travel. Your turn.
Proud boys ....really?. Lol
@@therightway2412 wow, could you be any more vague? Most of the countries in the world have freedom and constitutions, most people love their countries (Hitler, Stalin and Un included)... You're regurgitating political talking points.
@@itsobvious5333 those are facts, not my imagination. Look it up.
The panel could have really benefitted from a Canadian 🇨🇦 living through it and KNEW what they were talking about, rather than the superficial, cursory observations of a couple of Americans (Marianne notwithstanding) who were naïvely sold on the concept of “free dumb.” These idiots don’t speak for truckers - over 90% of truckers are vaccinated, working and don’t have time for this sh!t.
Imagine if 2024 is Vivek vs Marianne
Bill Maher doesn't call out the corruption of people like Newsom enough.
I have free healthcare and my taxes arent 80%. Where do these people get these figures from?