@@ph-yd3sr I don't give a shit. It's a tool. I find it hilarious that AK guys are AK guys, though. No one cares. Have rifles. Shoot bullets. No one cares.
Now one can observe that mistake and factor in necessary precautions when attempting their own procedure. I learned to just stop and rest after every punch. This video was more valuable than the edited versions that show ONLY perfect results like no failures can occur. I know for a fact that some of these videos avoid showing you several attempts before successful results.
One strike at a time, boys. We've all hammered a million nails and have muscle memory built in. Resist the urge to hammer in rhythm. Thanks for posting nsz85. Your sacrifice can help others
I have a tip for u. Start off with a sharp skinny punch. It helps getting the stake centered. It is easier to see around. Then swap to your larger punch. I use this 2 punch method with great results.
I’ve used a 16 Penny nail with light taps from a dead blow hammer and that worked for me. I jacked the castle nut and plate up first time trying this, but luckily it didn’t touch the receiver and I have almost way too many extra parts around here anyway.
Thank you for making all these videos. I've had building an AR on my to do list for over a decade and i rember watching a lot of the videos years ago. Now that i want to actually start a build, it is really helpful to come back and (re)watch the videos to help clarify any uncertainties.
Derek Fightmaster, aka StakeMaster, is one of the very best :) BTW, ESF-H is machined from 4140 steel, we don't heat treat or black nitride them, they're harder than TDP spec 1018 or 1020 mild steel, it should be as it's a QD sling mount, not just an end plate.
This is too funny. I literally just clicked on this again a year later just for a little support. I laughed again when the punch walked. I agree with you that you're stake is awesome! Thanks for the video and for being humble enought to let us see that it doesn't always go perfect. Amen!
I prefer using a steel 12 oz ball pein hammer when using the starett punch it’s so much harder then my brass hammer it seems to take less force then the brass hammer great info on the build everyone should learn
I can't believe I watched a whole video on staking. Thank you for all your videos. And a heavier hammer made of steel with single heavy deliberate hits would probably serve you better and lead to less "mistakes " (which I assume you did on purpose for our benefit)
Instructive and helpful video. Thanks. Shame that some people are negative with the comments. It takes some humility to show the world one's mistake(s). It helps we who watch make fewer mistakes. End result was still a successful stake. I do agree with one reviewer, who recommended to reset after each strike at the punch. I enjoy this channel. Learn a lot. Makes my own attempts easier.
Fellow pond member here Nate and I’ve made the same mistake of putting dimples in my lower. As you were hammering down I said oh no this is how and then you slipped 🤣. I’ll share a pic with you later
I am a little late to the party watching this vid but I know you were ready to loose your mind when the double tap happened. I have serious OCD and I have already had touch ups on countless builds that have drove me nuts. Really cool you left that in the video, things do happen with an assembly ..
NEVER DOUBLE, TRIPLE OR QUDRUPLE TAP WHEN STAKING UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO LIKE THAT MESS, HIT IT ONCE THEN CHECK IT, REPOSITION & HIT ONCE AGAIN UNTIL YOU ARE HAPPY WITH IT.
Just finished mine; I didn't get the double-tap but at least I got three stakes but not a whole ton of material. It was my first time so didn't expect perfection but I feel a lot better that I've done it (learning about tools as well as the platform).
Damn man, that sucks. I was watching and saw as you were hammering it in and was getting more and more excited as more material was getting pushed in. I then saw the punch moved and my heart sank. It was such a clean stake until that happened.
Holy f*ck 2 bangs after slip really looks aesthetically pleasing hahaha kudos for leaving this in the video for people to learn from your error! Also, love these FC castle nuts I use them a bit good price too
Did you stake the Magpul ASAP plate like your other end plates? I just installed an ASAP QD plate but I realized the end plate and castle nut don't sit flush next to each other.
I've always hated staked castle nuts because they end up being "sharp" and catch on things. This staking looks like it's less likely to catch on things. I'll be giving it a go this week.
First time doing this. What is the difference in this method vs the other one you posted? I bought some real avid and wheeler tools. I don’t have that handy geissele block for the buffer tube
I like that you left that fuckup in the video for the lolz, subd. Idk why you're calling it the Fightmaster method, while Derek is great at staking, I don't see anything different from normal staking. Either way, thanks!
Ohhhhhh THAT sucked. I'm so sorry. Saw that happen and there is no marker or paint that'll make those dings go away ...on your gun, or in your heart. GREAT VIDEO - at the cost of aesthetics.
Hey buddy, don’t stake on center - favor the rifle’s R/H side. Look at your 2nd stake, you have a few mm to spin lefty-loosey and all you need is a few mm to break torque. You want the bulge right up against the R/H flat of the castle but. Nice VDO.
I use a good spring loaded center punch to start. Set it to max penetration (giggity). I punch it twice with punch perpendicular. Then I finish it with a center punch with it angled slightly toward the castle nut. I do one blow at a time until I’m satisfied with the hole (giggity). My stakes usually look pretty nice imo.
I’d re-stake it if it were me. Not because it won’t work, because it would piss me off every time I saw it. I use a Starrett automatic center punch for mr staking and haven’t had it slip yet.
You can remove the nut.a flat punch can push back some of the metal by holding it at an angle and I've done it without much trouble.I had a staked commercial tube and replaced it with a Mil-Spec one.
I did a few that were real nice. And one was crappy looking. I put some paint over it but it still looked bad. But it bothered me so I got a new end plate and redid it. Now it looks nice.
I've used all types and varieties. This punch and method creates the best stakes. Just like with everything, we all crawl before we walk and practice and experience is required to master anything. No auto punches produce the results I personally prefer.
@@nsz85 Why do you say they are junk? I have had extremely good luck with them for the last 5 years. I use it on my valkyrie .224 And my 556 both of them I built from the pistol grip up Including to mill out the receiver's . I watch a lot of your TH-cam videos that give me good imformation .
@@whoff8792 Other than the cost, the ratcheting castle nuts seem quite viable, especially for those who might want to frequently change out buffer tube extensions. Most reports I've either read or seen have been positive. Not sure why the "Junk" reply.
First, use a tiny dab of grease on the rear of the tube threads, and spin the castle nut into place (hand tight). Some castle nuts may not show threads through the stake hole, so back it off slightly, so Loctite can seep into the threads. Then, just add 1 drop of Blue Loctite in a square staking hole. Finally, torque the castle nut to 35-40ft-lbs. Been doing this for 30 years. I've never had a castle nut come loose. I've always been able to remove them with a wrench. And, I've never had to replace a castle nut. Staking simply isn't necessary.
To be clear, everyone, this is a video about staking your end plate into the castle nut, not staking your end plate into your lower receiver.
Saw this comment before the vid... Was bit confused.... Then... While watching i realized your comment became greatness.
Instructions unclear. Staked magazine to well.
As an AK person, it’s hilarious how much you AR types worry about tiny dinks and bruises on your guns
@@ph-yd3sr I don't give a shit. It's a tool. I find it hilarious that AK guys are AK guys, though. No one cares. Have rifles. Shoot bullets. No one cares.
Wait, what??? Oh, crap.
So a miss stake was made. Sorry couldn't help myself
That double-tap miss was hilarious.
For real! Lmao right after, "F**k"
The immediate BLEEP was perfect. Holy shit that was funny. Good on you to leave that in the video.
I yelled when I saw the first skip and cursed in the second lol. Glad he didn't cut it out
😂
Don’t get all tap happy
It's good that you showed your mistakes. Some people wouldn't, and thus they miss a teachable moment. Thanks for the video.
Now one can observe that mistake and factor in necessary precautions when attempting their own procedure. I learned to just stop and rest after every punch. This video was more valuable than the edited versions that show ONLY perfect results like no failures can occur. I know for a fact that some of these videos avoid showing you several attempts before successful results.
Just a tip but I always reset the punch after every blow
Exactly man, take your time…reset between blows.
Thats what he said.
@@boobio1🤣🤣🤣
One strike at a time, boys. We've all hammered a million nails and have muscle memory built in. Resist the urge to hammer in rhythm. Thanks for posting nsz85. Your sacrifice can help others
I have a tip for u. Start off with a sharp skinny punch. It helps getting the stake centered. It is easier to see around. Then swap to your larger punch. I use this 2 punch method with great results.
Great tip! Thanks for sharing.
Solid idea
I’ve used a 16 Penny nail with light taps from a dead blow hammer and that worked for me. I jacked the castle nut and plate up first time trying this, but luckily it didn’t touch the receiver and I have almost way too many extra parts around here anyway.
Thank you for making all these videos. I've had building an AR on my to do list for over a decade and i rember watching a lot of the videos years ago. Now that i want to actually start a build, it is really helpful to come back and (re)watch the videos to help clarify any uncertainties.
Bang bang bang ....F****! I love your vids man! Always awesome info and demonstrations. 🤘💪
That was funny.
No offense
His vids are top of the list. I learned how to build from him and always wait for the newest one to drop.
I agree. I always love some one who can live with our humanness.
I actually yelled SH*T when it walked. Then I was dying of laughter at the censor beep. Real life here.
Derek Fightmaster, aka StakeMaster, is one of the very best :) BTW, ESF-H is machined from 4140 steel, we don't heat treat or black nitride them, they're harder than TDP spec 1018 or 1020 mild steel, it should be as it's a QD sling mount, not just an end plate.
FCD is life
🦆
Any ideas when we're gonna get our filthy hands on some dimpled ABC's?
This is too funny. I literally just clicked on this again a year later just for a little support. I laughed again when the punch walked. I agree with you that you're stake is awesome! Thanks for the video and for being humble enought to let us see that it doesn't always go perfect. Amen!
thanks for giving us the opportunity to learn from your miss stake.
Those are gorgeous... my heart skipped a beat on that wander... looks great regardless.
I prefer using a steel 12 oz ball pein hammer when using the starett punch it’s so much harder then my brass hammer it seems to take less force then the brass hammer great info on the build everyone should learn
I wasn’t sure why he was using a brass hammer with a steel punch.
I can't believe I watched a whole video on staking. Thank you for all your videos. And a heavier hammer made of steel with single heavy deliberate hits would probably serve you better and lead to less "mistakes " (which I assume you did on purpose for our benefit)
Much appreciated for providing an honest video with a gratuitous 'mistake' to give the full idea. Thank you!
Instructive and helpful video. Thanks.
Shame that some people are negative with the comments.
It takes some humility to show the world one's mistake(s). It helps we who watch make fewer mistakes.
End result was still a successful stake.
I do agree with one reviewer, who recommended to reset after each strike at the punch.
I enjoy this channel. Learn a lot. Makes my own attempts easier.
Pretty impressive punch. The customer will love your work.
Im a first time ar owner , I can tell your videos are going to be so helpful , allready learned how to change gas rings thanks to you
Kudos to you sharing a mistake in your video. Great seeing that as it’s a learning experience for all of us
Appreciate the video. Those mistakes are helpful. Specifically, describing the punch saves time and directs one to the proper center hole punch👍Thanks
Fellow pond member here Nate and I’ve made the same mistake of putting dimples in my lower. As you were hammering down I said oh no this is how and then you slipped 🤣. I’ll share a pic with you later
Thank you for showing the method and the error. Humility is a virtue.
Stake looks great, but yes make sure that you re-index your punch after every hammer strike.
I am a little late to the party watching this vid but I know you were ready to loose your mind when the double tap happened. I have serious OCD and I have already had touch ups on countless builds that have drove me nuts. Really cool you left that in the video, things do happen with an assembly ..
My eyes went huge and sorry...I laughed out loud. It's so cool that you just roll with it. I love it!
5:54 OUCH! Never set a punch like you’re hammering a box of nails. Gotta recenter the punch after every hit of the hammer.
good tip! probably one of the reasons mine always turn out bad. Thanks!
What does resetting the punch regularly do for the quality of the indentation?
@@Baconaughts not necessarily quality but to mitigate mishaps like a skipping punch.
@@Baconaughts stops you from doing what he did in the video.
Derek is a hell of a guy and friend. Great video!
NEVER DOUBLE, TRIPLE OR QUDRUPLE TAP WHEN STAKING UNLESS YOU WANT IT TO LIKE THAT MESS, HIT IT ONCE THEN CHECK IT, REPOSITION & HIT ONCE AGAIN UNTIL YOU ARE HAPPY WITH IT.
Did mine with an ice pick and a rock and came out just as perfect.
Why the brass hammer?
Was that a mistake or a misstake or a missed stake?
Up-close and un-covered, this is a gunsmith's "VH1 Unplugged" ! 😜
I use a spring loaded automotive center punch from the harbor freight. No hammering. Dont even need the vice anymore.
One of my favorite videos
What about a dead blow hammer that would maybe get rid of that bounce. I have that blow hammers and think of using them
I purchased the Startett 264E center punch. Hopefully it works just as well. 🤷♂️
Just finished mine; I didn't get the double-tap but at least I got three stakes but not a whole ton of material. It was my first time so didn't expect perfection but I feel a lot better that I've done it (learning about tools as well as the platform).
I have the Real Avid brand staking punch and tools. They work as well?
What taper point are you using on your punched to stake the castle nut? You didn’t mention it in the video, and I know the right taper does matter.
I usually TIG weld mine on!
😂
Damn man, that sucks. I was watching and saw as you were hammering it in and was getting more and more excited as more material was getting pushed in. I then saw the punch moved and my heart sank. It was such a clean stake until that happened.
Holy f*ck 2 bangs after slip really looks aesthetically pleasing hahaha kudos for leaving this in the video for people to learn from your error! Also, love these FC castle nuts I use them a bit good price too
I enjoy watching your videos. I am more interested in building a short stroke piston driven ar! Any chance you can make a video like that!
Is staking castle nuts necessary if you tighten the castle nut with a tool until there is no wobble?
Yes.
Yes.
Did you stake the Magpul ASAP plate like your other end plates? I just installed an ASAP QD plate but I realized the end plate and castle nut don't sit flush next to each other.
Honesty.....I love it and THANKYOU!
That 3rd stake was perfect though!
Just watched your video from 7years ago.
Holy shit it took a long time for you to stake that.
I've always hated staked castle nuts because they end up being "sharp" and catch on things. This staking looks like it's less likely to catch on things. I'll be giving it a go this week.
What Jig are you using to secure the lower in a vice? Also, do you use aluma black in the staked portion?
I was wondering the same thing regarding the jig. Did you ever find out?
@@msb11286 Yes, I completely overlooked it. He showed what he was using at 01:05 (Geissele Reaction Block, which are impossible to find)
+1 for that Beskar steel.
First time doing this. What is the difference in this method vs the other one you posted? I bought some real avid and wheeler tools. I don’t have that handy geissele block for the buffer tube
Great video, thanks!
I think the term you’re looking for is “in relation to the center line”.
why does your lower look casted?
I like that you left that fuckup in the video for the lolz, subd. Idk why you're calling it the Fightmaster method, while Derek is great at staking, I don't see anything different from normal staking. Either way, thanks!
I wanna know how you used a reaction rod on a lower? I stopped listening after that.
Thanks for these videos!
I feel better about my staking results now.
Ohhhhhh THAT sucked. I'm so sorry. Saw that happen and there is no marker or paint that'll make those dings go away ...on your gun, or in your heart. GREAT VIDEO - at the cost of aesthetics.
Hello and great video. Could you send me a link to purchase that punch?
Go to the website, Fightmaster firearms
If a small dimple and not enough metal in the notch, it can still loosen as if it wasn't staked at all.
"Missed stakes do happen"....I see what u did there.
Can you just put thread lock on it instead
How not to stake your castle nut
Hey buddy, don’t stake on center - favor the rifle’s R/H side. Look at your 2nd stake, you have a few mm to spin lefty-loosey and all you need is a few mm to break torque. You want the bulge right up against the R/H flat of the castle but. Nice VDO.
what do you use to hold the lower while you are staking it?
It's in a geissele reaction block help by the vice .....
Thanks for sharing.
at least you hit the end plate and not something more expensive. thanks for vid
Well if you learned anything it's don't start welling on it because when you're punch slips you're going to stake it or it don't need to be staked
Without the shitty ass music from the other channels. Love some how to vide from NSZ85
what do you use to hold the buffer tube?
In other vids I've seen a gun vice is used.
I use a good spring loaded center punch to start. Set it to max penetration (giggity). I punch it twice with punch perpendicular. Then I finish it with a center punch with it angled slightly toward the castle nut. I do one blow at a time until I’m satisfied with the hole (giggity). My stakes usually look pretty nice imo.
A good tactical hammering course might aid you in your quest for the perfect castle nut stake!🤓
Why would you continue to swing the hammer after the punch jumped the rails?
Made a mistake.
@@nsz85 It can happen to anyone. Thanks for showing this staking method.
I’d re-stake it if it were me. Not because it won’t work, because it would piss me off every time I saw it. I use a Starrett automatic center punch for mr staking and haven’t had it slip yet.
What happened to this guy?
My dad used to live in Athol, MA
Your nails are perfectly cut
He’s not a savage. He’s a Guntuber. Standards must be upheld.
Everyone stakes the castle nut at true cost but, no one stakes the threads at loss. Steel deformation vs Aluminum
Single set and hits only..Even I at 68 wouldn't mess up like that.
You can remove the nut.a flat punch can push back some of the metal by holding it at an angle and I've done it without much trouble.I had a staked commercial tube and replaced it with a Mil-Spec one.
I did a few that were real nice. And one was crappy looking. I put some paint over it but it still looked bad. But it bothered me so I got a new end plate and redid it. Now it looks nice.
All this talk about steak is so close to dinner is making me hangry 😁
Remember one wack at a time. !! but good video anyway love your channel.
You should’ve kept fuxking it up, started swearing and turn this into a comedy 😂
Just use a loaded centerpunch and youll avoid your screw up. Ive done hundreds and never had one messed up.
I've used all types and varieties. This punch and method creates the best stakes. Just like with everything, we all crawl before we walk and practice and experience is required to master anything. No auto punches produce the results I personally prefer.
@@nsz85 the one I have does the same exact thing in the video minus the f up
Why dont you use a ratcheting castle nut?
Junk.
@@nsz85 Why do you say they are junk? I have had extremely good luck with them for the last 5 years. I use it on my valkyrie .224 And my 556 both of them I built from the pistol grip up Including to mill out the receiver's . I watch a lot of your TH-cam videos that give me good imformation .
@@whoff8792 Other than the cost, the ratcheting castle nuts seem quite viable, especially for those who might want to frequently change out buffer tube extensions. Most reports I've either read or seen have been positive. Not sure why the "Junk" reply.
I dont yell at videos but you got me you silly duck! lol
Using a brass hammer is a good choice. You wouldn't want to damage that hardened steel Starrett center punch. 😁
🤣👍💯
Derek is my best friend
This video was AMAZING, I almost fell off the toilet laughing. 💀I feel so good about my life right now.
LMFAO! Looks like Helen Keller did the staking.
Man that's cruel but funny.
Please come out of retirement and make more videos!
That was educational and funny as fuk.
Staking is not permanent, it would make a good laugh to anyone that knows
And this is why I bought a ratcheting castle nut 😂😅
Exactly, PWS has made life so much easier!
It will come loose. Stake your castle nuts
@@kanaka118446 No, it won't.
@@kanaka118446 Definitely can’t come loose. No need to stake it
First, use a tiny dab of grease on the rear of the tube threads, and spin the castle nut into place (hand tight). Some castle nuts may not show threads through the stake hole, so back it off slightly, so Loctite can seep into the threads. Then, just add 1 drop of Blue Loctite in a square staking hole. Finally, torque the castle nut to 35-40ft-lbs. Been doing this for 30 years.
I've never had a castle nut come loose. I've always been able to remove them with a wrench. And, I've never had to replace a castle nut. Staking simply isn't necessary.
Both of those stakes lool amazing haha