It's really a shame that our options for color reversal are so limited. I shoot almost exclusively color reversal (mostly Ektachrome, but recently shot Velvia 50) film with the purpose of projecting. Such a great way to see your images blown up to a huge size without dealing with the hassle and cost of printing.
I've seen some great results from xpro but I feel like those are the exception and most of the time it doesn't work that well. Plus it's a nightmare when you do your own scanning. After a few disappointing rolls I pretty much gave up on the idea.
With it's exaggerated grain and weird colours it's great for hammering into viewers' heads: "this is analogue!". Also useful for conveying a message of roughness or grittiness. It's just another tool in your toolbox... and just like a big hammer, you won't use it for precision modelling.
My family use to shoot everything on slide film, We have hundreds if not thousands of slides. Most of the slides date from the early 1960s through the late 80s. I am experimenting with film again and have always loved slide film. The amazing thing with slides is the presentations, the setting up of the noisy projector, the clunky screen, the focus of the watchers on the image on said screen and the shared experience of seeing the past. Very powerful and at times emotional. I hope slide film never dies. Thanks for covering this subject.
Always noticed “color negative” and “color reversible” but never knew the actual depth and difference behind both. I’ve always seen Velvia at so many shops and as a Fuji lover never tried it, that changed today man! thanks Analog!
I shot Velvia 50 for the first time last week. I find it to be a very intense and harsh film with high contrast and deep shadows and highlights. I was shhoting beaches and the sea and got very good looking overly saturated results. Now that you mentioned velvia 100 is more neutral, I might go with that. Since I live in Turkey, it’s very easy for me to get Fuji stuff for cheap. Right now, the cheapest film in Turkey is fresh Pro 400H.
Here's why Velvia is so sharp. Look at the MTF Curve graph on the datasheet at 5:01. The film provides greater than 100% response from 5 to 15 cycles/mm. That's not a misprint. What this means is that the film intrinsically highlight edges. The film effectively does an unsharp mask sharpening on itself. Look for the datasheet for Kodak Gold. It exhibits the same characteristic. However, Gold actually resolves significantly more detail than Velvia; look at where MTF30 terminates for both films. MTF30 is the traditional resolution extermination threshold. Nothing much below this is visible. With practically only five stops of dynamic range, specific tendency to amplify saturation to 11, it's a special situations film. On the few occasions I had this in the film back, it literally took three months to finish off a roll.
I love Slide film - I’ve technically tried both Ektachrome and Provia, though haven’t developed Provia yet. Ektachrome looks beautiful in the day AND at night with it’s 10 seconds before reciprocity kicks in. Shoot slide film; even if rarely!
Agreed! I only shoot slide for color now. I’m not down with the whole portra look most people are going for anymore. Personally my favorite film is Provia. Provia’s reciprocity is in the minuets range. I think you’ll really dig the Provia.
@@asmahism I’m tempted to buy another roll solely to test at night… I also reallllly want some more Ektachrome for night. I shot it on a foggy night last year and was blown away - all shots done under 10 seconds (which was tricky with the lenses I had - 2 of which are very soft and sharpness cuts off at f/5.6…)
@@randallstewart175 @Randall Stewart really didn't need a history on ferania. If they think they can do it then give them a fucking chance. They aren't kodak, it's gonna take a while. Let them do it before you say it's nonsense. New slide film had been off of their agenda for a few years before the start of 2021. They really only promised it in the Kickstarter and for a few months after they were funded. Their supply issues have been slowly resolving themselves and things are really looking up for them so don't be so nihilistic about it.
Noah, thank you for what you do. Because of a combination of Ben Fraternale of In an Instant and ofc you I decided to get into my first polaroid format, pack film, so I did. I had some issues...the dark tab ripped so my dad and I had to pull it out and load the pack in darkness which we have no experience doing. The first two shots came out fully black. After talking to a photographer about it online, I realized it needed a particular battery so I ordered one. Shot two shots today at my soon to be college and they came out really beautiful, super cool experience that I'm very thankful to y'all for.
I literally just received a roll of 120 Velvia 50 that I plan to shoot soon. I've shot a lot of Velvia in the past, but this will be my first time shooting Velvia 120.
Velvia 50 is sadly one of the films Fuji decided to raise the price by 60%. After losing Velvia 100 this is another punch in the gut to slide film lovers
I got some beautiful shots on Velvia 50 in Stockholm last autumn. Of course I shot three cartridges of Ektachrome too! Sad about the 100. Will that be stopped in Canada too?
@@AnalogResurgence Maybe this is just like toilet paper panic. It’s still available here in the UK, I can always send some if it continues here. I just found a box of Sensia400. I guess they won’t honour the prepaid processing now 😂
Slightly off topic -- Noah -- what are the options (if any) for cross-processing expired Kodachrome film to get something out of it? Definitely not expecting anything even close to real Kodachrome correctly-processed results. Doesn't it produce really "interesting" B&W negatives if cross-processed under C-41? Cheers!!!
I’ve never heard of it going through those processes, only black and white at this point. It’s definitely not stuff that I’m dying to try at all either.
@Watch And Shoot -- OK. I'm not desperate to do it -- I am not a big fan of expired film, but I have three rolls of Kodachrome 64 -- unknown date -- which I will be giving away and I wanted to be able to tell whoever gets them that there is indeed something that can be done with them!
A few years ago Rollei put out Vario Chrome, which was a limited edition slide film that was likely expired Agfa slide film (from back when Agfa made Agfachrome until the earlier 2000's). They currently have a film called Crossbird, which is originally a slide film that's marketed as being for cross-processing. It's also likely old Agfachrome film so none of their stuff is like freshly produced, quality made reversal film like Kodak and Fuji are still doing.
@@AnalogResurgence The Crossbird is a bit of a mystery. They gave it new packaging not long ago but it's usually sold out without any mention of discontinuation - possibly converted from old stock in very limited batches but you kinda never know if there's gonna be another or not. The original emulsion is most likely Agfa Aviphot Chrome - it was discontinued only a few years ago so even if it's old stock, it sure would be fresher than the old Agfachromes made in the 2000s. I had one roll developed in E6 so far and the slides came out looking like... cross-processed. Lots of contrast and tendency for greenish/yellowish colour shifts. Very weird. They also had a similar film called CR 200 a few years ago which was supposedly the same emulsion but actually marketed as a slide film.
It's really a shame that our options for color reversal are so limited. I shoot almost exclusively color reversal (mostly Ektachrome, but recently shot Velvia 50) film with the purpose of projecting. Such a great way to see your images blown up to a huge size without dealing with the hassle and cost of printing.
What do you use to project?
Ken Rockwell is excited rn
100% agree on cross-processing. It's one of those things that falls into the category of "just because you can doesn't mean you should."
I've seen some great results from xpro but I feel like those are the exception and most of the time it doesn't work that well. Plus it's a nightmare when you do your own scanning. After a few disappointing rolls I pretty much gave up on the idea.
With it's exaggerated grain and weird colours it's great for hammering into viewers' heads: "this is analogue!". Also useful for conveying a message of roughness or grittiness. It's just another tool in your toolbox... and just like a big hammer, you won't use it for precision modelling.
My family use to shoot everything on slide film, We have hundreds if not thousands of slides. Most of the slides date from the early 1960s through the late 80s. I am experimenting with film again and have always loved slide film. The amazing thing with slides is the presentations, the setting up of the noisy projector, the clunky screen, the focus of the watchers on the image on said screen and the shared experience of seeing the past. Very powerful and at times emotional. I hope slide film never dies. Thanks for covering this subject.
I hope Film Ferrania will eventually pick up the color slide slack.
Always noticed “color negative” and “color reversible” but never knew the actual depth and difference behind both. I’ve always seen Velvia at so many shops and as a Fuji lover never tried it, that changed today man! thanks Analog!
I shot Velvia 50 for the first time last week. I find it to be a very intense and harsh film with high contrast and deep shadows and highlights. I was shhoting beaches and the sea and got very good looking overly saturated results. Now that you mentioned velvia 100 is more neutral, I might go with that. Since I live in Turkey, it’s very easy for me to get Fuji stuff for cheap. Right now, the cheapest film in Turkey is fresh Pro 400H.
The most neutral slide Imo is Provia 100 if you are looking for that, it's great for portraits
@@graydeotto2820 Thanks, will try that!
I love velvia 50 so much… this is the go to film for my landscape. Looking at slide film in person on the light table is so amazing!,
Here's why Velvia is so sharp. Look at the MTF Curve graph on the datasheet at 5:01. The film provides greater than 100% response from 5 to 15 cycles/mm. That's not a misprint. What this means is that the film intrinsically highlight edges. The film effectively does an unsharp mask sharpening on itself.
Look for the datasheet for Kodak Gold. It exhibits the same characteristic. However, Gold actually resolves significantly more detail than Velvia; look at where MTF30 terminates for both films. MTF30 is the traditional resolution extermination threshold. Nothing much below this is visible.
With practically only five stops of dynamic range, specific tendency to amplify saturation to 11, it's a special situations film. On the few occasions I had this in the film back, it literally took three months to finish off a roll.
I love Slide film - I’ve technically tried both Ektachrome and Provia, though haven’t developed Provia yet. Ektachrome looks beautiful in the day AND at night with it’s 10 seconds before reciprocity kicks in. Shoot slide film; even if rarely!
Agreed! I only shoot slide for color now. I’m not down with the whole portra look most people are going for anymore. Personally my favorite film is Provia. Provia’s reciprocity is in the minuets range. I think you’ll really dig the Provia.
@@asmahism I’m tempted to buy another roll solely to test at night… I also reallllly want some more Ektachrome for night. I shot it on a foggy night last year and was blown away - all shots done under 10 seconds (which was tricky with the lenses I had - 2 of which are very soft and sharpness cuts off at f/5.6…)
I'm excited for feranias slide film. Hopefully it's coming out sooner than later.
@@randallstewart175 @Randall Stewart really didn't need a history on ferania. If they think they can do it then give them a fucking chance.
They aren't kodak, it's gonna take a while. Let them do it before you say it's nonsense.
New slide film had been off of their agenda for a few years before the start of 2021. They really only promised it in the Kickstarter and for a few months after they were funded. Their supply issues have been slowly resolving themselves and things are really looking up for them so don't be so nihilistic about it.
Velvia 50 is my go to Landscape Film, there is nothing better, period.
Amazing. Thank you for sorting my fridge.
Noah, thank you for what you do. Because of a combination of Ben Fraternale of In an Instant and ofc you I decided to get into my first polaroid format, pack film, so I did. I had some issues...the dark tab ripped so my dad and I had to pull it out and load the pack in darkness which we have no experience doing. The first two shots came out fully black. After talking to a photographer about it online, I realized it needed a particular battery so I ordered one. Shot two shots today at my soon to be college and they came out really beautiful, super cool experience that I'm very thankful to y'all for.
this is my favorite film photography channel! thank you for the info
David Alan Harvey’s go to, color film back in the day
I had shot a decent amount of Velvia 100, but now you've got me inspired to try 50 again.
My favourite film Channel talking about my favourite film stock😍
I just shot my first roll. It's still in the fridge and this made me even more excited to see it!
I literally just received a roll of 120 Velvia 50 that I plan to shoot soon. I've shot a lot of Velvia in the past, but this will be my first time shooting Velvia 120.
Just got a 6x6 Rollei slide projector up and running, medium format slides projected are really something special. Great review Noah!
Velvia 100 still alive here in Europe :)
I live in Canada. I just bought a roll of Velvia 100
Slide film is a wonderful experience!
Shoot some rolls and get a e6 kit and develop at home!
Have a nice week!
Just got 5 rolls of E100 120 format. Going to have a fun photo weekend
My Grandfathers slides are some of my favorite possessions. Hopefully, I'll shoot some Ektachrome soon, Fuji's stuff seems hard to find in the US.
I've been waiting for this one ^^
Slide film is my choice for very special travels. So there you have it: to me it's the mothership of film.
Nice review, you should do a roll review on Provia 100F before it disappears from this earth.
I love the intro!
Velvia 50 is sadly one of the films Fuji decided to raise the price by 60%. After losing Velvia 100 this is another punch in the gut to slide film lovers
Shot a fresh roll of Velvia 100 last week. Expired 2024.
@@goldenhourkodak I just purchased some Velvia 100.......but I live in Canada
2 years later, my lab said they would still develop velvia 100, but they cant sell it :(
A couple of years ago there was Rollei slide film. Alas, no longer in production - I think it was old Agfa stock rebranded.
It was.
Great Video!
I cannot shut up about Provia having no reciprocity failure below 128 seconds. Easy night exposure measurement.
I have no experience with slide film, but I feel like it's pretty similar to like Ektar or something. Really saturated and fine grain is what I hear
Beard looks great man! Keep it up!
Grew it myself!
This might be a dumb question, but if color negative film is called "color negative," why is the opposite type of film not called "color positive?"
Halifax @ 1:33
Nice
I got some beautiful shots on Velvia 50 in Stockholm last autumn. Of course I shot three cartridges of Ektachrome too! Sad about the 100. Will that be stopped in Canada too?
I’m not too sure, right now it’s just sold out lots of places here because people freaked out and bought it all up
@@AnalogResurgence Maybe this is just like toilet paper panic. It’s still available here in the UK, I can always send some if it continues here. I just found a box of Sensia400. I guess they won’t honour the prepaid processing now 😂
I dare you to make an entire video using only super 8 film
Slightly off topic -- Noah -- what are the options (if any) for cross-processing expired Kodachrome film to get something out of it? Definitely not expecting anything even close to real Kodachrome correctly-processed results. Doesn't it produce really "interesting" B&W negatives if cross-processed under C-41? Cheers!!!
Does not work properly
You could process kodachrome only in bw chemistry to get it developed, there's no way to process it in c-41 or e-6 chemistry :(
I’ve never heard of it going through those processes, only black and white at this point. It’s definitely not stuff that I’m dying to try at all either.
@@reverseddthinking1280 -- OK -- that's what I must be thinking of then. I knew that there was some very odd way to get images from the film. Thanks!
@Watch And Shoot -- OK. I'm not desperate to do it -- I am not a big fan of expired film, but I have three rolls of Kodachrome 64 -- unknown date -- which I will be giving away and I wanted to be able to tell whoever gets them that there is indeed something that can be done with them!
Doesn't Rollei make slide film?
A few years ago Rollei put out Vario Chrome, which was a limited edition slide film that was likely expired Agfa slide film (from back when Agfa made Agfachrome until the earlier 2000's). They currently have a film called Crossbird, which is originally a slide film that's marketed as being for cross-processing. It's also likely old Agfachrome film so none of their stuff is like freshly produced, quality made reversal film like Kodak and Fuji are still doing.
@@AnalogResurgence The Crossbird is a bit of a mystery. They gave it new packaging not long ago but it's usually sold out without any mention of discontinuation - possibly converted from old stock in very limited batches but you kinda never know if there's gonna be another or not. The original emulsion is most likely Agfa Aviphot Chrome - it was discontinued only a few years ago so even if it's old stock, it sure would be fresher than the old Agfachromes made in the 2000s.
I had one roll developed in E6 so far and the slides came out looking like... cross-processed. Lots of contrast and tendency for greenish/yellowish colour shifts. Very weird.
They also had a similar film called CR 200 a few years ago which was supposedly the same emulsion but actually marketed as a slide film.
I wish Kodak would bring back Kodachrome. I might win the Powerball twice before that happens.
rip Velvia 100 in united states
Cross processing is the 'custom preset' of the 1990s. Interesting but it soon turns tiresome, and you wonder why you wasted your time - and film.
Too bad the Biden Administration pulled this film. I will miss it more than Joe Biden.
Ken Rockwell has some real sus racial opinions