The climb has become so difficult that I almost never snap at all. If I have a good shot a winning and I snap, they pretty much always leave. If someone snaps on me and I'm not VERY confident I can win, I just leave. I mostly just snap if I'm pretty sure I'm playing a bot and even then they often retreat as well, but usually at least get 2 cubes from them. I think the worst part is that they said they'd be able to push out balance changes without needing a major patch and yet we're stuck with this until presumably the 21st, even though some of the changes have been needed for over a month. I really hope the balance patch at least has a lot of changes, including buffs, and not just nerfing Shuri and Thanos decks.
I've seen some people say forcing a retreat on Turns 5/6 should award 2 cubes (pulling a cube out of thin air). Or that an outright win should be worth an extra cube, something to break up the treadmill of gaining/losing single cubes because retreating is optimal. I think you're right on all points- and it's much worse for people without the T1 decks, trust me. It feels great to beat Shuri and Thanos, but for every win (and I'm almost never snapping into those decks) I'm probably losing 3-4 cubes in raw retreats. The unexpectedness of the game has been solved, so it's not worth risking extra cubes on a "Do they have it" telegraphed 50/50 soul read.
I'm climbing a bit faster than I have in prior months. I'm sitting at 56 now which is the 2nd highest I've ever been usually it's a struggle for me to break into the 50s so getting pushed up to 55 right away has been a huge help. I've been playing a mix of thor lockjaw, electro ramp, and death wave because I have no series 5 cards and my S4 are terrible (MBaku, Orka, and Sentry) or rotated to S3 (Titania and She Hulk). For me the frustration on ladder stems entirely from having to compete with decks I can't play because of random chance not favoring me.
I made infinite in the Zabu season, found it to be a traumatizing experience. I took most of last season off and finished at 84. Now I’m playing more, but facing almost nothing but Thanos and Galactus mirrors in the low 50’s. Total grid lock even down here
Great advice Zombie, I myself am still around 45. I started at 40. I really struggled to climb more than 2 ranks before getting perfect mirror-matched decks that would just pull exactly the cards you need to win. I noticed that after winning 4/5 matches straight I would get 3/4 matches where it was almost impossible for me to win. Either because Of the location or the deck I was facing. I’m just playing a bit and waiting for the patch to come out before I push for anything. This season is a real drag…..
I notice this too. Seems like after a short win streak I have to change decks because the AI is trying to swing me into unfavorable matchups, my paranoia is growing btw. lol
I slowly made it to 80 for most of the week and then as soon as I was 86 I hit a streak of 4 and 8 cubers from bots and made it to infinite in just a couple of hours playing Shuri/Destroyer. I recommend letting them snap first on turn 5 when they are ahead in two locations because if you snap as soon as you see the cards missing some effects they tend to stick to 4 cubes games much more than in the past.
70-100 was 453 games for me. I used Thanos and saved all my tokens to include Kang as well for free snaps. My biggest climb was on the weekend when I sat down and focused and basically only snapped with Kang or with perfect answers to the opponent otherwise I was incredibly conservative with my cubes. So it took me roughly 30+ hours to climb the 70-100 range. Now I’m just happy I can play something besides Thanos.
I’m a newer player who started around the beginning of this year. I’ve been playing consistently with the daily’s since then, and have gotten lucky with a decent card collection. I’ve been running the Shuri/Red Skull deck after getting trashed by it a bunch. I feel like I struggled the most to get out of the 50s/60s. I played a lot last night and got into the 80s from around 74.
Pretty sure their location randomization is busted or buggy in some way. I'm getting repeated locations on subsequent games with far more frequency than random chance
I'm started this season at 50. I'm at 65 right now, and I've barely faced any bots. I can usually tell the bots by their inked cards and the sub optimal plays. The bots retreat a lot more than they used to.
I 100% agree. This month was very difficult. I was forced to use a shuri zero deck just to keep up with the current meta, which I really did not want to do. Hopefully balance changes come soon. Great content!
I was having SOME success with my other decks for a bit; Patriot, Discard, Dino. Then lost like 12 matches in a row against perfect counters/mirrors with perfect card combos. Started using Shuri Zero and started climbing again. Hate having to resort to it but it's literally the only way for me to climb right now.
I'm in the same boat found myself floating from 77 to 73 so I pulled out the zero shuri deck and now I'm climbing again. Sucks because it's a boring ass deck but if you can't beat them you have to join them.
I like the way you are rewarded when moving up a devicion - No More Lame Grinding like crazy ! This was a very good decision and I hope they will not withdraw it ! I play for fun and I can not live into the game for 4-5 hours strate to grind like a Zombie. So, Thanks Second dinner! The reward for 50 cubes was exactly what we, the normal casual players, needed to have more fun climbing the ladder
This is my second full season and I just hit infinite. I just happened to be watching this video when I crossed the finish line. I had the same experience snap-wise. I played Thanos Lockjaw. I did not run into a lot of Thanos, but I did see a lot of Shuri. That matchup just has too many scenarios where it's clear to both players if someone is way ahead or way behind. Thanos is so much fun to play but the stones really make him too dynamic.
Started the season with both my accounts at 10. Main account(collection lvl 4800) hit Infinite 3 days into the season after 2 days grinding with Galactus/Nimrod/Destroyer. 2nd account(collection lvl 900) is currently at 65 where I’m playing meta decks that I have no business playing against considering I don’t even have Aero or Lockjaw, let alone all the other meta-defining card’s being used everywhere.😅
Finished building the Shuri deck at the start of the season. It feels unfair how straight forward it is to play and win with it. I'm hoping they fix it so I can brew a bit without feeling like not being able to put 30+ power in two lanes means the deck is unplayable. The Thanos players at my rank (30-70 so far this season) don't seem to be playing the broken version of the deck because I almost never see Leech or Lockjaw. I have switched Titania with Elektra because everybody runs Sunspot and Titania hurts me more often than helps.
Thank you. EACH TIME I try to snap agressively, I finish losing the game. You could add too many toxic location screwing our plan when we finally have a good hand... Like for Shuri, I keep getting cards cost +1 at T5 or swap hands on T6... The game doesnt let me play the deck.
I hit infinite in a week this season from 70. Granted I did play thanos 👀👀👀 can’t beat em join em eh 😅Struggled way more last season with a sandman ramp deck. Honestly my recommendation for climbing is to really learn how to identify a good start/opening hand/What locations are good for your deck etc And snapping turn 3-4 before a big play. That way even retreats net you 2 cubes rather than 1
Well currently back at 85, went up to 87, fell to 81. Leech has been wrecking me. So been crawling back up. Its the toughesr season for me thanos lockjaw is opppressive.
This season I got to rank 100 fastest, with higher cube rate and win rate ever. And I am not playing Thanos, actually played a shuri version with Nimrod.
That's part of what sounds like the issue is, inconsistent match-making. Most people are struggling because they're playing lots of mirror matches or other good players running meta decks. Then occasionally you have people that climbed super fast because their match-making was more advantageous for them.
@@monkeybunny89 dont think you payd attention to the video, play shuri or thanos is far from easy wins since u playing vs the other and mirrors 90% of the time, the surprise factor in this decks are way more important than netdecking atm.
I don’t like that bots will often retreat on turn 6 if they are losing. I’m only getting two cubes from bots because I’ll snap on 3 and they retreat on 6. (They have gold with no effects)
I hit infinite today and I didn't feel that different compared to last season, I think the reason I can climb fast is I'm not afraid of losing 8 cube games (I think I even had a 2 or 3 game loss streak that were all 8 cubers). I think most people would only play 8-cube games if they can win it 100%, which is nonsense, you only need to win more than 50% of your 8 cube games. A +8, -8 and +2, -2 both total 0 but I'm pretty sure most people would rather have the +2, -2 because it feels "safer", but that's a logical fallacy that's losing people a lot of cubes in the long run.
Went from 50 to 95 in first 6 days and I've been at 95 ever since. No one stays for snap, anyone already on infinite will snap however and whenever. Its such a drag that I dont want to keep throwing crap at the wall and seeing what stick.
I totally agree!The meta just getting worst from month to month…The climb to infinite is not an enjoyable experience at all…No casual mode for questing too…I just don’t understand what they do tbh…
Its a vicious cycle. This is my first season hitting infinite and I used Thanos to do it. What was crazy is everyone is running killmonger / cosmo really countered me hard plus once people see a stone they know they going to retreat unless they are shuri or have a big surprise. The low cube games were killing me, plus getting countered, plus really good players in my pool made it very hard but Im happy to be done. once you hit 100 you can mess around with other decks. Unpopular opinion after hitting infinite: I really wanted to play Nimrod but because of Cosmo and Armor its nearly impossible to play destruction. If they nerf Thanos/ Shuri, i wish they take a look at armor/cosmo. These cards are sooo strong in the vein of leech.
That's weird, I've had the exact opposite experience. It usually takes me about 3 and a half weeks to get me to infinite, this season I got it in less than a week. And like, the first week I usually play more fun decks, so I climbed to infinite running Hazmat and Quake into nothing but Thanos and Shuri.
I also had the opposite experience. But I manipulated the MMR to do so. Last season, I made infinite about a day before the reset. I spent that last day Agatha farming and lost 53 matches in a row, which destroyed my MMR. This season, when I started, I played a bunch of bots in 70-80 - surely due to my horrid MMR; started seeing Thanos and Shuri in 80-90; and saw nothing but infinite rank human players (they were showing off the gold Xmen card back) in 90-100. But I retreated immediately when I recognized a human/Thanos deck, and aggressively snapped whenever I faced a bot, even if my hand was junk. All told it took me 10 days to reach infinite.
If i could of liked the video more i would. They need to sort there shit out. I used to love playing this game and the last couple of weeks have been torcher. I even shouted at my screen the other day “DUDE… YOU ARE NOT GOOD! YOUR JUST PLAYING THANOS/LOCKJAW/ LEECH” 😂
I feel like the token shop is what made the game so stale. Made it so easy for everyone who's pool 3 complete to get these meta-defining cards and now we're only seeing Shuri and Thanos.
I wish they had just left it the old style where you could high roll multiple cards in a row from caches I think this new system suck and is only in place to get you frustrated enough to then spend money getting the cards you want.
ive hit infinite every season since ive played which has only been 2 this season makes 3 i was hard stuck in the 70s but then once i got 80 i hit infinite in about 30 minutes other season were much easier but it seemed more consistant in the match making this was just completely one sided it felt like after getting past the 70s
I snap on Thanos decks using my pool 2 deck and they retreat on me 🤣🤣🤣 And sometimes I even stay in and win 4 cubes. I think it has to do with human psychology. People are too afraid to snap.
Yes, I'd rather not snap and win 2 than snap and win 1 after the opponent retreats. On the same wave, I'd rather retreat an only lose one than come up against some turn 6 nonsense and lose 4 or 8. We're all "cube shy" and defensive. They need to implement some more modes ASAP so we don't all feel like poker players going against the house.
your 8 and 4 cubes win/losses net you 44 cubes in 15 games while your 1 and 2 cubes win/losses net you 12 cubes in 41 games the grind is real... the emotion, highs and lows in the game are dying... and the many feelsbad losses make the fun vanish...
ATM at 88 from iron. Very few bots past bronze most of my loses are from bad locations and thanos EVERYWHERE. im CL 2302 with 2 series four cards and and no series 5 cards (minus the season pass cards from suerfer +). feels horrible to lose to cards you will not own for a long time, #NoSkillThanos
I think I am playing a different game than you guys. I have never been higher than 70. Last season I started at 50 and could not get above it ( I literally spent the entire season between 45-50 ending at 50). This season I started at 30 and I got to 65 today. I literally have never climbed this fast in a season. I play a homeade kazar deck. A zoo style thanos and a destroy deck
Literally the easiest of the season Ive played. I played a classic shuri with Cosmo and armour and I reached 100 in two days just from casually playing. The only true skill you need is to master your snap. Yes for sure is boring but hard no
This becomes much harder to do when the opponents you consistently play have also mastered the snap/retreat mechanic. Even when I snap early this season most people simply retreat for 1 cube. But I’m sure this experience can vary player to player, this was just my experience
@@scrowll1565 depends of where you are ...at pool 3 complete almost everyone has what they need to climb ... I don't have thanos yet I have Shure ... which I was collecting tokens to buy since the announcement of her moving to p4 ...
Im rank 65 and its à pain and hard to climb facing 70% shuri deck other are galactus and thanos im just good to give cube lvl collection 3800 i dont hâve shuri and thanos.and this Game give me the worst pool 5 « shanna, sauron, shadow king » 😂
it was a nightmare to get infinite, not because i would lose 8 cube snaps, but because its literally just shuri thanos in the ladder. after i got 100 i basically just run the have some garbage deck to counter these tryhards and when i see a cool deck i donate cubes to ease the thanos shuri climb
I feel like I'm misunderstanding the logic here. 75% of the games are unpredictable and low cube wins/loss because of thanos/lockjaw deck but you climbed because you avoided the deck?
I climbed bc of getting more 1/2 cube wins than losses and this was further boosted by a handful of +4/+8 bonuses from identifying and beating bots. Most of my climb was into thanos and shuri, but the only reason the deck I used could work was by essentially getting lucky and them not always having leech.
When you are climbing it is zero sum except for the games played against the bots. Perhaps the players skill level has equalized a little... and for sure more players are level 3 complete at this point so the decks are more even. I would think that people having more equal card pool is the biggest factor that has changed.
That for sure can be part of it, but I think a huge factor is the RNG involved in the thanos deck makes people much more hesitant to snap. Even when things were broken in the Zabu meta I felt it was more possible to get bigger cube games vs other experienced players
suri/thanos meta is so oppressive, nothing like surfer/zabu meta, nothing like... etc etc etc. if only 2 decks are meta next months insert that here too. only took you 65 games to get from 70-100? thats so fast!
My stats here are from rank 96-100 it def took me a lot more games for the whole 70-100 climb. I wanted to use these ones though as it was all done with the same deck
It’s done wonders for my mental health to go from grinding for hours a week on pc to playing only my daily quests when I am tucked in to bed
Yeah ladder is toxic for mental health. It is creating a gambling addiction
The climb has become so difficult that I almost never snap at all. If I have a good shot a winning and I snap, they pretty much always leave. If someone snaps on me and I'm not VERY confident I can win, I just leave. I mostly just snap if I'm pretty sure I'm playing a bot and even then they often retreat as well, but usually at least get 2 cubes from them.
I think the worst part is that they said they'd be able to push out balance changes without needing a major patch and yet we're stuck with this until presumably the 21st, even though some of the changes have been needed for over a month. I really hope the balance patch at least has a lot of changes, including buffs, and not just nerfing Shuri and Thanos decks.
There is a balance patch releasing next week my friend. Fingers crossed!
@Colm I wouldn't be at all surprised if a bs policy from Apple is the cause of this. They're ruining it for everyone 😒
I've seen some people say forcing a retreat on Turns 5/6 should award 2 cubes (pulling a cube out of thin air). Or that an outright win should be worth an extra cube, something to break up the treadmill of gaining/losing single cubes because retreating is optimal.
I think you're right on all points- and it's much worse for people without the T1 decks, trust me. It feels great to beat Shuri and Thanos, but for every win (and I'm almost never snapping into those decks) I'm probably losing 3-4 cubes in raw retreats. The unexpectedness of the game has been solved, so it's not worth risking extra cubes on a "Do they have it" telegraphed 50/50 soul read.
I'm climbing a bit faster than I have in prior months. I'm sitting at 56 now which is the 2nd highest I've ever been usually it's a struggle for me to break into the 50s so getting pushed up to 55 right away has been a huge help. I've been playing a mix of thor lockjaw, electro ramp, and death wave because I have no series 5 cards and my S4 are terrible (MBaku, Orka, and Sentry) or rotated to S3 (Titania and She Hulk). For me the frustration on ladder stems entirely from having to compete with decks I can't play because of random chance not favoring me.
Good stuff man. Struggling with the "Yo-yo" ladder. Really good insight here, I know I'm not snapping enough.
I made infinite in the Zabu season, found it to be a traumatizing experience. I took most of last season off and finished at 84. Now I’m playing more, but facing almost nothing but Thanos and Galactus mirrors in the low 50’s. Total grid lock even down here
Great advice Zombie, I myself am still around 45. I started at 40. I really struggled to climb more than 2 ranks before getting perfect mirror-matched decks that would just pull exactly the cards you need to win. I noticed that after winning 4/5 matches straight I would get 3/4 matches where it was almost impossible for me to win. Either because Of the location or the deck I was facing. I’m just playing a bit and waiting for the patch to come out before I push for anything. This season is a real drag…..
Yeah it’s a real bummer, hope things improve with the patch
I notice this too. Seems like after a short win streak I have to change decks because the AI is trying to swing me into unfavorable matchups, my paranoia is growing btw. lol
@@ElWray8 WE ARE NOT ALONE!
I slowly made it to 80 for most of the week and then as soon as I was 86 I hit a streak of 4 and 8 cubers from bots and made it to infinite in just a couple of hours playing Shuri/Destroyer. I recommend letting them snap first on turn 5 when they are ahead in two locations because if you snap as soon as you see the cards missing some effects they tend to stick to 4 cubes games much more than in the past.
70-100 was 453 games for me. I used Thanos and saved all my tokens to include Kang as well for free snaps. My biggest climb was on the weekend when I sat down and focused and basically only snapped with Kang or with perfect answers to the opponent otherwise I was incredibly conservative with my cubes. So it took me roughly 30+ hours to climb the 70-100 range. Now I’m just happy I can play something besides Thanos.
I’m a newer player who started around the beginning of this year. I’ve been playing consistently with the daily’s since then, and have gotten lucky with a decent card collection. I’ve been running the Shuri/Red Skull deck after getting trashed by it a bunch. I feel like I struggled the most to get out of the 50s/60s. I played a lot last night and got into the 80s from around 74.
Pretty sure their location randomization is busted or buggy in some way. I'm getting repeated locations on subsequent games with far more frequency than random chance
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I'm started this season at 50. I'm at 65 right now, and I've barely faced any bots. I can usually tell the bots by their inked cards and the sub optimal plays. The bots retreat a lot more than they used to.
im in the same boat, bouncing between 65-69 and my opponents are almost entirely Infinite players
Considering bots are supposedly in the game to inject cubes into it. I don't see the benefit in coding them with a retreat mechanism it's stupid
I 100% agree. This month was very difficult. I was forced to use a shuri zero deck just to keep up with the current meta, which I really did not want to do. Hopefully balance changes come soon. Great content!
Hell I'm running Shuri Zero in the mid 30s and it's still a slog and a chore. :P
I was having SOME success with my other decks for a bit; Patriot, Discard, Dino. Then lost like 12 matches in a row against perfect counters/mirrors with perfect card combos. Started using Shuri Zero and started climbing again. Hate having to resort to it but it's literally the only way for me to climb right now.
I'm in the same boat found myself floating from 77 to 73 so I pulled out the zero shuri deck and now I'm climbing again. Sucks because it's a boring ass deck but if you can't beat them you have to join them.
it' been a chacha for me. one step forward, one step back. I can play for two hours and be at the same rank 76. Driving me nuts
Climbing has been incredibly tough. Hoping things change soon. For now, just might meme and forget infinite this month.
I like the way you are rewarded when moving up a devicion - No More Lame Grinding like crazy ! This was a very good decision and I hope they will not withdraw it ! I play for fun and I can not live into the game for 4-5 hours strate to grind like a Zombie. So, Thanks Second dinner! The reward for 50 cubes was exactly what we, the normal casual players, needed to have more fun climbing the ladder
I'm 20 levels higher than I was at the end of last season, so I'm ok with it so far. The grind from 85 to 100 might be tougher, but so far so good.
This is my second full season and I just hit infinite. I just happened to be watching this video when I crossed the finish line. I had the same experience snap-wise. I played Thanos Lockjaw. I did not run into a lot of Thanos, but I did see a lot of Shuri. That matchup just has too many scenarios where it's clear to both players if someone is way ahead or way behind. Thanos is so much fun to play but the stones really make him too dynamic.
Started the season with both my accounts at 10.
Main account(collection lvl 4800) hit Infinite 3 days into the season after 2 days grinding with Galactus/Nimrod/Destroyer.
2nd account(collection lvl 900) is currently at 65 where I’m playing meta decks that I have no business playing against considering I don’t even have Aero or Lockjaw, let alone all the other meta-defining card’s being used everywhere.😅
Finished building the Shuri deck at the start of the season. It feels unfair how straight forward it is to play and win with it. I'm hoping they fix it so I can brew a bit without feeling like not being able to put 30+ power in two lanes means the deck is unplayable. The Thanos players at my rank (30-70 so far this season) don't seem to be playing the broken version of the deck because I almost never see Leech or Lockjaw.
I have switched Titania with Elektra because everybody runs Sunspot and Titania hurts me more often than helps.
Thank you. EACH TIME I try to snap agressively, I finish losing the game. You could add too many toxic location screwing our plan when we finally have a good hand... Like for Shuri, I keep getting cards cost +1 at T5 or swap hands on T6... The game doesnt let me play the deck.
The main reason I dont snap as often is aero. There has been too many unexpected aeros for me, even in decks that don't usually run them
Thank you for your insights
Ive stopped grinding, my mental health cant handle this. After escaping 20 games in a row I just gave up…
it really isnt worth the stress right now sadly, I hope balance changes and improvements to the ranked system can help bc its just awful right now
Starting from Rank 60 I was matched people already at infinite and people who were at infinite last season while I wasn’t.
I hit infinite in a week this season from 70. Granted I did play thanos 👀👀👀 can’t beat em join em eh 😅Struggled way more last season with a sandman ramp deck. Honestly my recommendation for climbing is to really learn how to identify a good start/opening hand/What locations are good for your deck etc And snapping turn 3-4 before a big play. That way even retreats net you 2 cubes rather than 1
Well currently back at 85, went up to 87, fell to 81. Leech has been wrecking me. So been crawling back up. Its the toughesr season for me thanos lockjaw is opppressive.
This season I got to rank 100 fastest, with higher cube rate and win rate ever. And I am not playing Thanos, actually played a shuri version with Nimrod.
That's part of what sounds like the issue is, inconsistent match-making. Most people are struggling because they're playing lots of mirror matches or other good players running meta decks. Then occasionally you have people that climbed super fast because their match-making was more advantageous for them.
Lol. Funny post 😆 shuri = win fuh
@@BatDad-qu4fo I changed a little the nromal shuri deck and refused to play Thanos cuz I didint want to play mirror anymore.
@@monkeybunny89 dont think you payd attention to the video, play shuri or thanos is far from easy wins since u playing vs the other and mirrors 90% of the time, the surprise factor in this decks are way more important than netdecking atm.
I don’t like that bots will often retreat on turn 6 if they are losing. I’m only getting two cubes from bots because I’ll snap on 3 and they retreat on 6.
(They have gold with no effects)
Good info
I hit infinite today and I didn't feel that different compared to last season, I think the reason I can climb fast is I'm not afraid of losing 8 cube games (I think I even had a 2 or 3 game loss streak that were all 8 cubers). I think most people would only play 8-cube games if they can win it 100%, which is nonsense, you only need to win more than 50% of your 8 cube games. A +8, -8 and +2, -2 both total 0 but I'm pretty sure most people would rather have the +2, -2 because it feels "safer", but that's a logical fallacy that's losing people a lot of cubes in the long run.
I’m using shuri and still getting my butt kicked 😅
Went from 50 to 95 in first 6 days and I've been at 95 ever since. No one stays for snap, anyone already on infinite will snap however and whenever. Its such a drag that I dont want to keep throwing crap at the wall and seeing what stick.
I totally agree!The meta just getting worst from month to month…The climb to infinite is not an enjoyable experience at all…No casual mode for questing too…I just don’t understand what they do tbh…
Its a vicious cycle. This is my first season hitting infinite and I used Thanos to do it. What was crazy is everyone is running killmonger / cosmo really countered me hard plus once people see a stone they know they going to retreat unless they are shuri or have a big surprise. The low cube games were killing me, plus getting countered, plus really good players in my pool made it very hard but Im happy to be done. once you hit 100 you can mess around with other decks.
Unpopular opinion after hitting infinite: I really wanted to play Nimrod but because of Cosmo and Armor its nearly impossible to play destruction. If they nerf Thanos/ Shuri, i wish they take a look at armor/cosmo. These cards are sooo strong in the vein of leech.
Congrats on infinite!
@@ZombiesGoNomNom THANK YOU! I wish everyone could experience it. The joy of playing any deck you want regardless of cubes is immense.
That's weird, I've had the exact opposite experience. It usually takes me about 3 and a half weeks to get me to infinite, this season I got it in less than a week.
And like, the first week I usually play more fun decks, so I climbed to infinite running Hazmat and Quake into nothing but Thanos and Shuri.
I also had the opposite experience. But I manipulated the MMR to do so. Last season, I made infinite about a day before the reset. I spent that last day Agatha farming and lost 53 matches in a row, which destroyed my MMR.
This season, when I started, I played a bunch of bots in 70-80 - surely due to my horrid MMR; started seeing Thanos and Shuri in 80-90; and saw nothing but infinite rank human players (they were showing off the gold Xmen card back) in 90-100. But I retreated immediately when I recognized a human/Thanos deck, and aggressively snapped whenever I faced a bot, even if my hand was junk.
All told it took me 10 days to reach infinite.
They should change leech to affect both players hands.
Okay then they will have infinaut/Leech deck are you good with that😂😂
If i could of liked the video more i would. They need to sort there shit out. I used to love playing this game and the last couple of weeks have been torcher. I even shouted at my screen the other day “DUDE… YOU ARE NOT GOOD! YOUR JUST PLAYING THANOS/LOCKJAW/ LEECH” 😂
I feel like the token shop is what made the game so stale. Made it so easy for everyone who's pool 3 complete to get these meta-defining cards and now we're only seeing Shuri and Thanos.
I wish they had just left it the old style where you could high roll multiple cards in a row from caches I think this new system suck and is only in place to get you frustrated enough to then spend money getting the cards you want.
ive hit infinite every season since ive played which has only been 2 this season makes 3 i was hard stuck in the 70s but then once i got 80 i hit infinite in about 30 minutes other season were much easier but it seemed more consistant in the match making this was just completely one sided it felt like after getting past the 70s
I snap on Thanos decks using my pool 2 deck and they retreat on me 🤣🤣🤣
And sometimes I even stay in and win 4 cubes.
I think it has to do with human psychology. People are too afraid to snap.
Yes, I'd rather not snap and win 2 than snap and win 1 after the opponent retreats. On the same wave, I'd rather retreat an only lose one than come up against some turn 6 nonsense and lose 4 or 8. We're all "cube shy" and defensive. They need to implement some more modes ASAP so we don't all feel like poker players going against the house.
This product has not been enjoyable since the first week of Zabu. Coming back for this season was a mistake.
I think overall is better for the game that we have less bots I don’t want to reach infinite cuz free wins. I want to improve my game
I agree, I think the current system with bots is very flawed and comes with more cons than pros
Lockjaw + Leech is such an insufferable combination when they can get Leech on turn 3/4. It just ruins so much of the meta.
i got a decent number of bots from 70-80, a few from 85-90 and close to zero bots from 95-100
I was 89 to times this season 🤣 went back to 85 I'm at 86 now lol
your 8 and 4 cubes win/losses net you 44 cubes in 15 games while
your 1 and 2 cubes win/losses net you 12 cubes in 41 games
the grind is real...
the emotion, highs and lows in the game are dying...
and the many feelsbad losses make the fun vanish...
ATM at 88 from iron. Very few bots past bronze most of my loses are from bad locations and thanos EVERYWHERE. im CL 2302 with 2 series four cards and and no series 5 cards (minus the season pass cards from suerfer +). feels horrible to lose to cards you will not own for a long time, #NoSkillThanos
The fact that the two pillars of the format are gated behind pool 4 and 5 makes the situation even worse so I feel for you
@ZombiesGoNomNom yeah at least leader gave lower CL players a chance RiP leader
No skill involved. Same decks+RNG locations.
I think I am playing a different game than you guys. I have never been higher than 70. Last season I started at 50 and could not get above it ( I literally spent the entire season between 45-50 ending at 50). This season I started at 30 and I got to 65 today. I literally have never climbed this fast in a season.
I play a homeade kazar deck. A zoo style thanos and a destroy deck
I think the experience can be super different player to player for a variety of reasons, even for players at the same rank. Its very strange
Literally the easiest of the season Ive played.
I played a classic shuri with Cosmo and armour and I reached 100 in two days just from casually playing. The only true skill you need is to master your snap.
Yes for sure is boring but hard no
This becomes much harder to do when the opponents you consistently play have also mastered the snap/retreat mechanic. Even when I snap early this season most people simply retreat for 1 cube. But I’m sure this experience can vary player to player, this was just my experience
it's easy because shuri is broken y'all forget not everyone have broken cards or even good combos to climb
@@ZombiesGoNomNom even cube by cube you are still claiming ...it's boring but form 70 is 200 cubes ...
@@scrowll1565 depends of where you are ...at pool 3 complete almost everyone has what they need to climb ... I don't have thanos yet I have Shure ... which I was collecting tokens to buy since the announcement of her moving to p4 ...
Im rank 65 and its à pain and hard to climb facing 70% shuri deck other are galactus and thanos im just good to give cube
lvl collection 3800 i dont hâve shuri and thanos.and this Game give me the worst pool 5 « shanna, sauron, shadow king » 😂
ooof that is rough
it was a nightmare to get infinite, not because i would lose 8 cube snaps, but because its literally just shuri thanos in the ladder. after i got 100 i basically just run the have some garbage deck to counter these tryhards and when i see a cool deck i donate cubes to ease the thanos shuri climb
I feel like I'm misunderstanding the logic here. 75% of the games are unpredictable and low cube wins/loss because of thanos/lockjaw deck but you climbed because you avoided the deck?
I climbed bc of getting more 1/2 cube wins than losses and this was further boosted by a handful of +4/+8 bonuses from identifying and beating bots. Most of my climb was into thanos and shuri, but the only reason the deck I used could work was by essentially getting lucky and them not always having leech.
When you are climbing it is zero sum except for the games played against the bots. Perhaps the players skill level has equalized a little... and for sure more players are level 3 complete at this point so the decks are more even. I would think that people having more equal card pool is the biggest factor that has changed.
That for sure can be part of it, but I think a huge factor is the RNG involved in the thanos deck makes people much more hesitant to snap. Even when things were broken in the Zabu meta I felt it was more possible to get bigger cube games vs other experienced players
suri/thanos meta is so oppressive, nothing like surfer/zabu meta, nothing like... etc etc etc. if only 2 decks are meta next months insert that here too.
only took you 65 games to get from 70-100? thats so fast!
My stats here are from rank 96-100 it def took me a lot more games for the whole 70-100 climb. I wanted to use these ones though as it was all done with the same deck
Everyone is net decking we need a ban list