thank you for the content, i really feel like pioneer is a honest and accessible format that people who want to play good magic can compete without being priced out
It's really funny I just put this together last night cause the main FNM near me is pioneer. I really enjoy Pioneer it has been most of the constructed I have played since the pandemic began so more Pioneer content is great.
Sweet deck, Seth! Also, I would like to say you piloted it very well! People are quick to criticize your gameplay but rarely praise it when appropriate.
It's so great seeing some pioneer content again seth. I hope we see more and I hope you're having fun. That second league you got to see some different decks which is awesome.
Awesome to see Pioneer being featured. The format is fairly healthy and fun to play. Unfortunate that Phoenix is what was seen predominately but I believe that has tapered down as the meta has adjusted appropriately.
This deck was awesome!! I love Pioneer, and I think I want to make this irl. A few small changes I'd recommend based on your losses, I feel like the land count is way too high since you're not running any of the Pioneer fetches, a lot of lost games came from flooding out in a deck with 23 lands. And secondly, with all the manadorks amd random tokens you make, Chord of Calling would be a huge upgrade to consistently get out Winota. I'm going to try those changes for myself, but maybe you can revisit the deck down the road some?
@@kitsovereign4127 When I said Pioneer Fetches, I was referring to Fabled Passage, Evolving Wilds, and Prismatic Vista. Although since then I remembered that Vista isn't Pioneer legal. But I still believe a playset of each would still be a buff to the deck.
Voice of Resurgence is one of my favorite cards. The art, the effect and the value-town decks it usually goes in. So nostalgic for it, too. Loved playing tournaments during that time in standard.
Hey, Seth. Non related question. What is up with that picture in the right of the video at the beggining? Is a poster or something i would love to take a closer look at it! it looks sick
Maybe Deafening Silence would be a good sideboard card for Phoenix? No idea; I don't play this deck or the format, but if graveyard hate doesn't do it then you probably want to stop them from casting all of their spells in a row.
Pioneer is my favorite 60 card format. This deck looks so fun, but almost too strong. I wouldn't be surprised of Winota gets a ban hammer soon. I'm hoping Bring to Light gets one at least.
You definitely have to aggressively Mulligan to get the best starting hand possible. I found that if winota isn't down by turn 4 it's probably a dead game.
man winota is crazy. getting to look at six cards just for attacking with a creature is pretty far above rate. I'm no card design expert but I like to think I would have made it "look at the top 3 cards" not 6.
“Grave Titan with fighting, even better than Grave Titan” Sooo…how about you quit calling it Grave Titan and call the card the name thats printed on it…. just a thought. Listening to older magic players call new cards by old card names is SO annoying. There is literally NO reason to do it other than to flex on how long you’ve been playing the game. Not only that, but when content creators do it while streaming, it leads to an endless string of newer players asking “what is that…what card is he talking about?” Then chat has to explain it, or the streamer…if they even bother…has to explain it. It’s just a waste of time. Just call cards by their names. We get it…you’ve been playing a long time…
My first dislike of a goldfish video. 1 bc Winona is just a dumb card I Wish was band. You should have to attack with her to trigger the ability. And 2 reason. There was 420 likes. Not like I could be the one who changes that
More pioneer please!!! Ill always leave a like for it
Thx for making pioneer content again. This is what the format needs to get back properly.
Finally, they found something powerful to do with Winota.
Pleaseeeee more pioneer this is what we need to people get more enthusiastic about it, content!!!!
This is great! More Pioneer content! Let's give this format the chance it deserves
thank you for the content, i really feel like pioneer is a honest and accessible format that people who want to play good magic can compete without being priced out
I’ve been having such a blast with this deck! So fun to play!
It is a really sweet deck.
@@MTGGoldfish Ross played this on VS live the other week, he had an absurd turn 4 with a good 40 Damage on the field.
It's fun because you are not on the other side of the table kkkk
It's really funny I just put this together last night cause the main FNM near me is pioneer. I really enjoy Pioneer it has been most of the constructed I have played since the pandemic began so more Pioneer content is great.
@Tim Ratcliffe you can make it happen!
Wish my local FNM did some pioneer
Sweet deck, Seth! Also, I would like to say you piloted it very well! People are quick to criticize your gameplay but rarely praise it when appropriate.
Really glad to see more pioneer
Yes! More Pioneer content please. Format is still a ton of fun.
This league was super fun. I think in general Pioneer is in a pretty good spot at the moment, maybe outside of Izzet Phoenix being annoying sometimes.
It's so great seeing some pioneer content again seth. I hope we see more and I hope you're having fun. That second league you got to see some different decks which is awesome.
Love seeing Pioneer.
What a fun and healthy looking format. I love it
Awesome to see Pioneer being featured. The format is fairly healthy and fun to play. Unfortunate that Phoenix is what was seen predominately but I believe that has tapered down as the meta has adjusted appropriately.
This deck was awesome!! I love Pioneer, and I think I want to make this irl. A few small changes I'd recommend based on your losses, I feel like the land count is way too high since you're not running any of the Pioneer fetches, a lot of lost games came from flooding out in a deck with 23 lands. And secondly, with all the manadorks amd random tokens you make, Chord of Calling would be a huge upgrade to consistently get out Winota. I'm going to try those changes for myself, but maybe you can revisit the deck down the road some?
"the Pioneer fetches" - Which lands are you thinking of, outside of Fabled Passage? The KTK fetches are banned in Pioneer.
@@kitsovereign4127 When I said Pioneer Fetches, I was referring to Fabled Passage, Evolving Wilds, and Prismatic Vista. Although since then I remembered that Vista isn't Pioneer legal. But I still believe a playset of each would still be a buff to the deck.
I play eldritch evo and 4 voices. feels solid
wizards needs to advertise this format more
I see Pioneer content, I SMASH that like button.
The baby shark singing was worth a like
That outplay Go Blank got my upvote. by the way 46:00, is there any reason to not play cathar, exile kalitas, crew chariot and kill liliana?
More Pioneer Please!!
Voice of Resurgence is one of my favorite cards. The art, the effect and the value-town decks it usually goes in. So nostalgic for it, too. Loved playing tournaments during that time in standard.
OMG Pioneer??!! Yes pls!
its been too long
Thank you for the pioneer content!
Glad you liked it!
45:20
>We really don't wanna get hit by this Grim Flayer
>Doesn't remove the Grim Flayer
When I first heard this idea, someone mentioned Rule of Law effects, but that was for commander, so their absence is fair
Love the pioneer content
I literally built a 4c EDH Tana/Tymna werewolf deck with Winota being the main spice in the 99, and then I see this video! Super fun synergy
Liking and commenting for more Pioneer content!
What a sweet deck! Keep on doing pioneer content
Wait... actually. That's really smart
37:58 is there an argument for just animating hydra and attacking lili?
Winota is one of the most fun cards ever made. I'm sad it's out of Standard, but very fun to see it here!
I'm a big Winota fan too. Werewolves are so perfect for it!
Would love to see a madness historic deck soon!
Wouldnt Goose be better than Sentinel? It's still a non human, but you can get Winona down with it without having a second creature.
I hit the like button at 22:28.
Hey, Seth. Non related question. What is up with that picture in the right of the video at the beggining? Is a poster or something i would love to take a closer look at it! it looks sick
Pioneer! Awesome, love to see it!
Can you make izzet budget standard deck, with serpentine curve as the base
I made a boros winota edh deck and the exclusion of the good green werewolves rly powers it down. And lots of politics to get your wolves to flip over
Pioneer!
Picked up winodas back in October, pretty happy about that one lol
prices back then?
@@LarsIsReal around 3 each
Maybe Deafening Silence would be a good sideboard card for Phoenix? No idea; I don't play this deck or the format, but if graveyard hate doesn't do it then you probably want to stop them from casting all of their spells in a row.
Excited for the pioneer content, especially with my challenger decks on the way :)
Pioneer is my favorite 60 card format. This deck looks so fun, but almost too strong. I wouldn't be surprised of Winota gets a ban hammer soon. I'm hoping Bring to Light gets one at least.
Could this work or be adapted for historic?
I wonder if I could adapt this to Historic. Or if it would even do anything in the format.
I think we could play Werewolves in Historic, although Winota is banned.
@@MTGGoldfish yeah I was heart broken when I saw that. Oh well.
“Werewolf?” I don’t know, you had him last.
I would honestly just love to hear Seth do play by play in touneys.
This deck is sick asf
Yes pioneer yes
More pioneer !!!
More pioneer! It's the healthiest format in the game right now!
I actually have a winota werewolf deck in reality. Combo's great with gier reach bandit
Ohh, that does sound spicy.
@@MTGGoldfish im planning on updating it with all the new werewolf support
hooly that first game LMAO
Its like Co co in a creature but better I love it!
I wish mayor of avabruck could be in the deck
Yeah, Mayor would be really great in this deck.
@@MTGGoldfish Re-print delver but not mayor yeah that seems good hahaha
Adventurous Impulse or something to dig for Winota seems like something to consider, the deck looks a lot worse without her 😢
You definitely have to aggressively Mulligan to get the best starting hand possible. I found that if winota isn't down by turn 4 it's probably a dead game.
This deck is brilliant... but that could be my bias towards werewolves talking.
Pioneer deserves a like.
Sacrifice to the algorithm for more pioneer
12/31 creatures are werewolves wish there were more :(
ah-wooooooooo
More pioneer please
Looking at 4 cards is tutoring now... interesting.
At the end of match one: And the werewolves got there!
Not depicted: Even a single werewolf
22:28
Lol wow
Huh. Almost like Winota is hideously broken.
Try this deck in modern
Pioneer? That’s still a format?
hah, double doodie
man winota is crazy. getting to look at six cards just for attacking with a creature is pretty far above rate. I'm no card design expert but I like to think I would have made it "look at the top 3 cards" not 6.
Lmao forgot pioneer even existed
But so did WotC.
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“Grave Titan with fighting, even better than Grave Titan”
Sooo…how about you quit calling it Grave Titan and call the card the name thats printed on it…. just a thought. Listening to older magic players call new cards by old card names is SO annoying. There is literally NO reason to do it other than to flex on how long you’ve been playing the game. Not only that, but when content creators do it while streaming, it leads to an endless string of newer players asking “what is that…what card is he talking about?” Then chat has to explain it, or the streamer…if they even bother…has to explain it. It’s just a waste of time. Just call cards by their names. We get it…you’ve been playing a long time…
Shut. Up.
My first dislike of a goldfish video. 1 bc Winona is just a dumb card I Wish was band. You should have to attack with her to trigger the ability. And 2 reason. There was 420 likes. Not like I could be the one who changes that
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