Hey, (I'm guy in white) thanks for taking the time to review my video! If anyone has any tips or advice for me I'm open to any comments. Also, yes our plan was to keep away from the guy since we lost to them in pool play challenging him too much.
I think you. Like have targeted the girl in green to win easily. She popped everything up to be a kill shot. Poach more on some shots that are floating - read the opponents paddle and poach.
Nice game by all. I'm with Rory stating that you are at the 3.5 level. It's funny to me when watching these videos and seeing the comments that tend to want to lower the rating of players. First of all, video does not do justice to the speed of the game and secondly, it's easy to criticize certain missed shots or popups and forget how often it happens in their games. Anyway, thanks for submitting the video to Rory.
All of you did a wonderful job and you, my friend, have a solid partner. Great chemistry. I'm not sure what I can offer as guidance or advice aside from stay together, play more together and challenge each other. Nice thinking and great work.
Wow---I saved this video for future reference. Great rallies and yes, I believe they are close to 4.0 or 4.0 (in the Northeast) but that's who competes in a 3.5 gold match, right?
Great game! Unfortunately the girl in green just doesnt have put away power on her shots. Shes solid otherwise but you MUST capitalize on those smashes! Smart to target because long armed guy in green was clearly the best player.
many of the DUPRs have low reliability scores ... but current DUPRs are 4.1 for the lady in white, 3.7 for the guy in white, 4.2 for the lady in green, 4.1 for the (tall) guy in black
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 the DUPRs were after those wins to get to the gold medal game, and they had relatively few games, so they likely increased quite a bit from pre-tournament
Thanks for your comment. I have played in a number of tournaments. I don't really find that many players playing down. I see more players playing up and getting their butts kicked.
Yes, they should be playing closer to 4.0. Good dinking, drops and strategy. Comments from those that say 3.0 do not understand ratings criteria. The girl in green was the weakest due to 2 things; she did not poach balls on some elevated cross shots but most importantly she needs to keep the ball down. Way too many elevated shots.
The overall play in this game switches back & forth from 3.5 to 4.0 . Some rallies were even as good as 4.5 . Any combination of any of these players would be fun & challenging to play against .
At 10:50 the guy in white is trying to signal "Hold" but then he opens his hand leading his partner to believe he wants to switch which causes the confusion. The lady in green needs to work on her grip/swing mechanics. At 14:22 her paddle face is at 6 o'clock and she "lifts" the ball. She does that a lot and often lifts the ball too high. Dinking straight ahead should be the exception. It is easier to prevent a return volley/speed-up with an out of reach cross court dink.
Rory, Shortly after 15:08, you say "Perfect shake and bake" The lady in white's 3rd shot was a drop. I know there are variations but a key element of every shake and bake is a hard 3rd shot drive (Shake) by player A, normally to the advancing player's feet. Player B, anticipates a good drive causing a pop-up and advances forward, finishing with a 5th shot put-away (Bake). No 3rd shot drive, no shake and bake. That is my understanding. Is that correct?
That's correct. A shake and bake is a third shot drive, followed by a put away. I guess what happened is, she popped up the third shot drop and her partner put it away, so I called it a shake and bake. Same result, just not a true shake and bake. Thanks for pointing that out.
Bree the girl in white, hits a great inside / out shot at 8:06. she is very consistent and deceptive with that shot. Justin is extremely patient with shot selection and his dinking.
I didn't think most of these players were 3.5. Their form and follow through on shots was lacking, with the exception of some of the dinks. There were a lot of unforced errors, especially on some kill shots. Thought they were closer to 3.0, so I was surprised to hear some of the comments to the contrary.
Can't agree with you on this. They all played hard and fast and shocased a range of skills and good technique. They all were thinking on their feet and reacting as best as possible under the circumstances. It's always easy to judge and criticize from the comfort of a chair until we have to face the music and dance, ourselves. At a bare minimum, all these players performed at the 3.5 level, in my opinion.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to go back and watch. They probably did. I think during the time out they just confirmed what they wanted to do.
There’s nothing slow about this game. No resets. It’s 3/4 hits and the point is over. Control the shots at this level. Have purpose with your shits at this level. I see a lot of hail Mary’s here.
I only see 1 possible 3.5, here in pgh that is maybe 3.0 and I’m a 2.9 per tourney numbers, I got my first nasty Nelson Monday, I’ll take one in rec play.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I'm still trying to figure my rating. I use these videos to judge my skill set. I suppose I am in the 4.0 range. I'm sure I would beat these guys handily.I am now beginning to look for opportunities to play tournaments. But I don't have a partner. Do tournaments require me to sign up as a 'team'? Or can I sign up as a single 'looking' for a partner? Not sure how it works.
They are 3.5, maybe a touch more aware than most at that level but many mistakes were made that a 4.0 would not do Lots of pop ups and missed opportunities that the lack of skill shows. They will get better and they do understand how to actual play pickleball and have a good idea of fundamentals
The video doesn’t say the girl in green is 4.0. IIRC, Rory said the tall guy might be at that level. The video title says 3.5. “Poor girl in green” is a strange comment.
@CWK090 I was replying to Rorys comment that these players look like they could be 4.0s. I don't think any are at 4.0 level. As for the girl in green, she was obviously the weakest and was brutally targeted the entire match. Hence, my "poor girl" comment. By the way, she held her own, so Kudos!
His height is his only advantage but that doesn’t make him a 4.0. Our 3.5 players would eat him alive here. It depends what area you play because this would not be 3.5 play in general. Too many fundamentals missing.
I don’t know what state this is in, but this is not 3.5 play. The girl in Green is maybe a 3.25 tops. No strategy. No proper footwork. All of them lacking basic skills to play 3.5 level.
Well, I'm sorry, we're just going to have to disagree. I watch hundreds of games on TH-cam every couple of weeks. I've seen 3.5 players much, much worse than these players.. I would put these players against any 3.5 players.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 you see way more players across the country than I do, thus my comment about “what State they are in”. I’m finding that “3.5” play is different in each State. Per this video, they would get crushed in 3.5 play in California, but maybe in Illinois it would be gold medal play at 3.5 level.
Can't agree with you on this. They all played hard and fast and showcased a range of skills and good technique. They all were thinking on their feet and reacting as best as possible under the circumstances. It's always easy to judge and criticize from the comfort of a chair until we have to face the music and dance, ourselves. At a bare minimum, all these players performed at the 3.5 level, in my opinion.
@@aljerones99 that’s okay to disagree. But that’s not 3.5 play in our region so, like I said, it may be that they are in a different demographic of play level.
Hey, (I'm guy in white) thanks for taking the time to review my video! If anyone has any tips or advice for me I'm open to any comments. Also, yes our plan was to keep away from the guy since we lost to them in pool play challenging him too much.
You're more than welcome. I really enjoyed watching you play. Nice job.
I think you. Like have targeted the girl in green to win easily. She popped everything up to be a kill shot. Poach more on some shots that are floating - read the opponents paddle and poach.
Nice game by all. I'm with Rory stating that you are at the 3.5 level. It's funny to me when watching these videos and seeing the comments that tend to want to lower the rating of players. First of all, video does not do justice to the speed of the game and secondly, it's easy to criticize certain missed shots or popups and forget how often it happens in their games. Anyway, thanks for submitting the video to Rory.
All of you did a wonderful job and you, my friend, have a solid partner. Great chemistry.
I'm not sure what I can offer as guidance or advice aside from stay together, play more together and challenge each other.
Nice thinking and great work.
Wow---I saved this video for future reference. Great rallies and yes, I believe they are close to 4.0 or 4.0 (in the Northeast) but that's who competes in a 3.5 gold match, right?
Sometimes players do play down. Thanks for watching.
Great game! Unfortunately the girl in green just doesnt have put away power on her shots. Shes solid otherwise but you MUST capitalize on those smashes! Smart to target because long armed guy in green was clearly the best player.
He was. Thanks for watching.
many of the DUPRs have low reliability scores ... but current DUPRs are 4.1 for the lady in white, 3.7 for the guy in white, 4.2 for the lady in green, 4.1 for the (tall) guy in black
The video posted on TH-cam had them as 3.5 players. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 the DUPRs were after those wins to get to the gold medal game, and they had relatively few games, so they likely increased quite a bit from pre-tournament
I agree 4.0 sandbaggers but that is what most people have come to expect in tournament play
Thanks for your comment. I have played in a number of tournaments. I don't really find that many players playing down. I see more players playing up and getting their butts kicked.
Yes, they should be playing closer to 4.0. Good dinking, drops and strategy. Comments from those that say 3.0 do not understand ratings criteria. The girl in green was the weakest due to 2 things; she did not poach balls on some elevated cross shots but most importantly she needs to keep the ball down. Way too many elevated shots.
Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
The overall play in this game switches back & forth from 3.5 to 4.0 . Some rallies were even as good as 4.5 . Any combination of any of these players would be fun & challenging to play against .
Good observation! Thanks for watching.
Is this at the orlando racket and sports in orlando nice dinking you all
I'm really not sure.
At 10:50 the guy in white is trying to signal "Hold" but then he opens his hand leading his partner to believe he wants to switch which causes the confusion.
The lady in green needs to work on her grip/swing mechanics. At 14:22 her paddle face is at 6 o'clock and she "lifts" the ball. She does that a lot and often lifts the ball too high.
Dinking straight ahead should be the exception. It is easier to prevent a return volley/speed-up with an out of reach cross court dink.
All good points. Thanks for the tips.
Girl in green needs to change her forehand grip for better control.
Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice.
Agreed. That grip will hold her back. As is, she's popping more than half of her forehands up.
Rory,
Shortly after 15:08, you say "Perfect shake and bake"
The lady in white's 3rd shot was a drop.
I know there are variations but a key element of every shake and bake is a hard 3rd shot drive (Shake) by player A, normally to the advancing player's feet. Player B, anticipates a good drive causing a pop-up and advances forward, finishing with a 5th shot put-away (Bake).
No 3rd shot drive, no shake and bake. That is my understanding.
Is that correct?
That's correct. A shake and bake is a third shot drive, followed by a put away. I guess what happened is, she popped up the third shot drop and her partner put it away, so I called it a shake and bake. Same result, just not a true shake and bake. Thanks for pointing that out.
Girl in White is Bree, she has very deceptive inside out that goes down the line. Her and Justin are very good, consistent players.
No expert here but I’d say 3.5 teams for sure, the guy in black may score a bit higher, the girl in green maybe a little less. All in all, 3.5 play
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for watching.
Bree the girl in white, hits a great inside / out shot at 8:06. she is very consistent and deceptive with that shot. Justin is extremely patient with shot selection and his dinking.
Thanks for pointing that out and thanks for watching.
I didn't think most of these players were 3.5. Their form and follow through on shots was lacking, with the exception of some of the dinks. There were a lot of unforced errors, especially on some kill shots. Thought they were closer to 3.0, so I was surprised to hear some of the comments to the contrary.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
Can't agree with you on this. They all played hard and fast and shocased a range of skills and good technique.
They all were thinking on their feet and reacting as best as possible under the circumstances.
It's always easy to judge and criticize from the comfort of a chair until we have to face the music and dance, ourselves.
At a bare minimum, all these players performed at the 3.5 level, in my opinion.
I think the plan was target the woman from the beginning
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to go back and watch. They probably did. I think during the time out they just confirmed what they wanted to do.
In mixed, target the woman is almost always the plan haha
There’s nothing slow about this game. No resets. It’s 3/4 hits and the point is over. Control the shots at this level. Have purpose with your shits at this level. I see a lot of hail Mary’s here.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
I only see 1 possible 3.5, here in pgh that is maybe 3.0 and I’m a 2.9 per tourney numbers, I got my first nasty Nelson Monday, I’ll take one in rec play.
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@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I'm still trying to figure my rating. I use these videos to judge my skill set. I suppose I am in the 4.0 range. I'm sure I would beat these guys handily.I am now beginning to look for opportunities to play tournaments. But I don't have a partner. Do tournaments require me to sign up as a 'team'? Or can I sign up as a single 'looking' for a partner? Not sure how it works.
They are 3.5, maybe a touch more aware than most at that level but many mistakes were made that a 4.0 would not do
Lots of pop ups and missed opportunities that the lack of skill shows. They will get better and they do understand how to actual play pickleball and have a good idea of fundamentals
Thanks for your opinion and thanks for watching.
You think this is 3.5 play? Hmmmmm
Good play, but i dont think they're 4.0. 3.0 to 3.5 in my opinion. Especially the poor girl in green.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.
The video doesn’t say the girl in green is 4.0.
IIRC, Rory said the tall guy might be at that level.
The video title says 3.5.
“Poor girl in green” is a strange comment.
@CWK090 I was replying to Rorys comment that these players look like they could be 4.0s. I don't think any are at 4.0 level. As for the girl in green, she was obviously the weakest and was brutally targeted the entire match. Hence, my "poor girl" comment. By the way, she held her own, so Kudos!
Yeah the tall guy is a 4.0.
Unfair.
Tall players, I think, do have an advantage. But, they still have to have skill and athleticism.
His height is his only advantage but that doesn’t make him a 4.0. Our 3.5 players would eat him alive here. It depends what area you play because this would not be 3.5 play in general. Too many fundamentals missing.
I don’t know what state this is in, but this is not 3.5 play. The girl in Green is maybe a 3.25 tops. No strategy. No proper footwork. All of them lacking basic skills to play 3.5 level.
Well, I'm sorry, we're just going to have to disagree. I watch hundreds of games on TH-cam every couple of weeks. I've seen 3.5 players much, much worse than these players.. I would put these players against any 3.5 players.
@@pickleballpick-apart9787 you see way more players across the country than I do, thus my comment about “what State they are in”. I’m finding that “3.5” play is different in each State. Per this video, they would get crushed in 3.5 play in California, but maybe in Illinois it would be gold medal play at 3.5 level.
Can't agree with you on this. They all played hard and fast and showcased a range of skills and good technique.
They all were thinking on their feet and reacting as best as possible under the circumstances.
It's always easy to judge and criticize from the comfort of a chair until we have to face the music and dance, ourselves.
At a bare minimum, all these players performed at the 3.5 level, in my opinion.
@@aljerones99 that’s okay to disagree. But that’s not 3.5 play in our region so, like I said, it may be that they are in a different demographic of play level.