1. Arena gives ‘found loot’ new value, putting more emphasis on a core tenant of the game. 2. Ice caves treasure hoard was goated, add it back 3. Queue refill on the 3 stack maps is a must, but they should add some sort of 3rd party deterrent like locking the boss doors 4. Devs need to post a weekly ‘guaranteed for next wipe’ ‘Maybe, probably not’ ‘No way’ They get so excited and spill beans on interviews, leading to impossible expectations. I don’t want them to die at their desks working. (Soma mentioned more official previews and communications) 5. They should have communicated about the multiclass event. Also there should be a banner on the client or menu that clearly states it is an event. Banger of an episode, great work guys!
Really hoping that the Ice Caves loot room "Icicle" is juiced this next season. Ina Ryan6DaysaWeek video he showed a new Ice Boss so maybe they will add it to the the middle room and turn it back into a POI
The three tier dungeon thing was fun as hell. Only time I play 3s is with Timmy bros. It makes the entire adventure so much more rewarding. Just surviving PVE that long is huge. If we survive trios pvp, even more joyful win. The lobbies being smaller, the deeeper you go, make the pvp interactions more organic. No offense but streamers viewpoints are askewed from AVG Joes and Timmies. 8hrs a day dealing with stream snipers/ rats w/e. Meta/BIS are for the sweatys. The game needs pure dungeon diving vibes maintained to bring in new players.
@@markthepro88 I hated the 3 tier system in the past, but with the post hound and player refill in between levels, I think I'll enjoy it It will also make it harder for me to obtain BiS for arena so it'll give me an incentive to grind
The absolute best pvp I've had is fighting over exits either out the dungeon or to lower floors, solo blue stairs with 2 mins or less on the clock is the great, trios fighting over red stairs or the lift /raft.
At around 30 minutes thelorr doesn't understand why people are so mad. Me and my friends are pretty new to the game like 200ish hours. We have been saving $ and pieces of kits to make like a last game 20k+ kit run. The patch drops, we died to two warlocks with dreamwalk, phantomize, magic missile, and fireballs. We couldn't hit them, they could shotgun our melee players without taking damage with MM and I couldn't kill anyone on wizard because everything I hit someone 2-3 times and they got low, dream walk, or phantomize proc run away while a diff pressures. It just felt so stupid to lose to just random shit we NEVER would have saw coming. Then we proceed to play a few more games I died to a fighter who turned into a demon lost to my fighter as he was running away he took a fucking book out, went invisible, i was cleric so he legit ran past my fighter stabbed me in the head 3x I died like what the fuck man..... how do I read that shit???? Wtf did I do wrong. Then he started healing himself like bro what the fuck, he's a plate fucking fighter???? Everything we have learned all season means nothing and when we die it never feels like ahh I fucked up or they are just better. It just feels like whaa... what the fuck just happened dude???
Crazy that I agree the classes feel the most balanced in a long/ever while and I haven't wanted to play the game in 3 weeks since it's just not fun to play with the current metas in the game lol. Good ass podcast boys. Glad you got Lorr on finally. Massive W creator and good ass dude
@@_Soma you really do be in the comments! I didn't mean it like that though. They were pretty much the 3 first content creators I watched for this game. But you are the glue Soma, you keep spud from going too wild and make sure Jay is still awake haha! And after last episode I think i resonate with your takes the most. Excited for this episode, gonna listen when I get on the airplane!
Im fucking tired of playing the squishest fuckinh class ever ranger, im done im switching to warlock tomorrow fuck this class. Im so angry because i learned this class and it is so bad right now with all the mages and fighters and warlocks. Its in the end of the bottom.
Should make goblin caves the first tier of ice dungeons until they get stuff sorted for the top layer of that and bottom of goblin. Otto and postman should only be going from 2 to 3 so you have to get through 2 layers to extract gear
The main reason I'm upset about MC coming back for a week is I was planning on using the last week as a hail Mary for the couple named items and expensive kits I've saved up with a friend and getting some reps in on geared PVP without having to worry about being broke after. MC has basically destroyed any notion of what I want to do in the game, so I'm just not playing till wipe. I'm not spamming gen chat like those degens, but it's definitely a big blow to what I've been planning for a month.
I feel exactly the same way.. was planning builds & saving pieces/gold for dedicated kits, but with MC now my builds are totally thrown off and I hate the idea of losing my hard-earned gear to broken builds that are the definition of unfun to play against. super disappointing end to an otherwise enjoyable season!
@@duncangreywater the final ~48hrs of previous wipes have been the real bonanza when everyone uses their best gear in a crazy frenzy.. it was awesome, and totally expected that again this season. can't blame people for expecting something similar again this time! patience is a virtue!
quiver could also be put on the back slot so you can choose if you want a cape or a quiver. there could be some stats like fire rate or strength on them and there could be a legendary one that gives you magic arrows or something
Love listening to this while driving at work. Transport patients by ambulance and this pod really makes my day go by quicker wish there were 2 eps a week! Yea game feels so balanced and i love it! Applaud ironmace and excited for wipe i put in pto for the 6th its my bday and wipe gonne be LIT 🎉🎉
Since I am mostly playing solo, I don't do bossing too much and the idea might not reflect the reality for duos and trios, but what if the boss would give some kind of significant buff or an item that activates automatically as soon as you loot it. It could encourage killing the boss, since for a period you could become stronger and have an advantage in a team fight. In a nutshell, it is a similar idea as killing a mid boss in deadlock.
somas point on modding, mentioning skyrim and such. i personally think dark and darker would thrive as a sandbox type of game, allowing players to create their own skills/spells to hopefully encourage and open a new side of dark and darker. With the communitys creativity and D&D inspiration, along with the theory of halo forge or something similar. there could be some insanely creative and enjoyable gamemodes that no one would ever think of. I personally think this is the best path for dark and darker if they want a long run and not get replaced by a deecent AAA replica that people will eventually flock to.
people arent gna like this but a strong short term fix to the rats loot dumping meta with postman is to shorten the timer on the first floor. if theres only time to get in 1 or 2 fights, theres not enough time for rats to wait for the coast to be clear or for teams to stray too far from portals. the obvious drawback is theyd be limiting time on the new* map and new bosses. on top of this, i think you should have to lift open the gate to reds instead of being able to sprint down them instantly. the lifted gate would stay up for like 8 seconds before falling again
Things I would love to see in this game -3 tier system for all the maps -More spell diversity -Normalize movement speed and just add abilities that either increase it or give mobility -Give every weapon a block and a special attack to give weapon diversity -Roaming bosses -Special mobs -More RPG leveling(Skill points for talents/crafting/gathering) -Make HR way more enticing(implement the arena soul bound gear idea to HR) -Let us collect gold coins and silver coins in larger stacks -Increase gold purse, bag and chest capacity -Get rid of weapon slowdown while attacking, just feels bad as a mechanic
Weapon slow is really important as someone who enjoys melee. Take it is use longsword so there’s almost none but even the small amount i get is absolutely required to be able to kill any kiting class
Weapon slow needs to be a thing I play barb why would I ever not be attacking It’s also a core fighting mechanic you need a window to punish the attacker a rogue would never be able to weave in and out of hits would just get stat checked all the time
@@dakku5019 you misunderstand. Not that weapons shouldn't slow you down, the fact that when you're attacking, your own movement speed goes down which just feels clunky especially with how movement speed is king in this game so unless you catch someone off guard, the game just devolves into putting weapons away and kiting.
Can confirm about the 2 shot rogue or ranger with 60+ agi with panther. Have used it and have been killed by it and its actually insane how fast people died. Same with the bearbarian with like 50+ strength its just a one shot headshot to most things.Also W Podcast and W video keep it up boys!
They need to make it so the post master can’t take equipped items. You can give him everything in your inventory except what you have currently equipped. If you hop in and loot you’ll go down to the next level, give it to the post master and keep going with what you’ve got on you. If you want to loot around you’ll have to remove your gear before going into the portal but that will limit how much money you can make cause the space is taken up by what you’re trying to keep
1:37:55 this talk about fighter dealing more dmg with bow got me thinking. Plate wearers should get their strenght/phys power reduced? Cuz plate armor irl( I know its a game but..) is like heavy and pulling arrow string or doing a blow with sword is way harder, slower compared to someones who is wearing light armor
@@greentext2345 no, the plate lets them get more strength, vig, as well as Pdr, but they also have different perks and skills. Just a fun perk, probably wouldn’t be meta.
They should remove the 1 way ap payment for the layered maps I mean if im in the ice caves and got like full inventory of loot I should be able to pay the half ap and just extract
49:15 Thats an easy fix. Just make reds not infinite and have matchmaking between floors. Make the floors worth while going to and players will flood there. I feel like this issue is being thought of in the context of no matchmaking between floors.
I'm excited for wipe but am worried about the dungeon exchange system / Otto. I believe a way they can balance it is to make it so you have to escape to get the loot you stored or you either lose all of it or get a few items at random like the goblin merchant.
I have felt sus about certain people finding me while I hide for quests or whatnot. First time I tried crouch/friendly checking behind cover at some dude rolling up on me I discovered he was 100% confirmed cheating. Sad!
My theory on Wizard is this. People die to spells and feel like they have been hit by so much more than arrows for example. A fireball in the face is far more visually shocking than an arrow or axe to the nose. I would also bet that most people who cry about wizard haven't tried the class much.
@@greentext2345 Due to rate of spells, or simply due to the perceived effect (large visual appearance of particles)? Rangers can more effectively suppress at range than a wizard. I've played as and against wizards and it's tougher playing as one for the most part, until you get good gear. Anyone with speed and health just rushes you.
As far as the expressman goes I feel like you should only be able to drop off quest items, huge ancient scrolls gold waterpots etc especially since they take up so much space. I believe player gear shouldn't be dropped off because it allows for an example a duo/trio to fight for their teammates gear back.
Instead of buffing weapon damage on weapons, they could just buff slayer itself to give extra weapon damage. It would be a direct buff to slayer and not give the PDR guys more than they already have. I love the multiclass event. I think to keep everyone happy they couldve had MC be in norms and HR stays the same but thatd be a lot of extra backend work so idk how viable a solution like that could be for a week event. I understand jay's and spuddy's point on the expressmen but lets be real, a static blue opens and I can still get out for free. it literally changes nothing. On the note of loot needing to be worth it, i shouldnt open a Gold chest in inferno or abyss HR and see all blues, they need to up the chance on legendary+epic gear in the golden chests, especially if theyre reworking AP system. The self found system for Arena is gona be a banger.
Slayers issue isn’t damage tho. A few wipes ago slayer was doing 160s with a falchion, and even then it wasn’t super strong in trios. Fighters meant to be a frontline and slayers just get melted too fast to do that, you gotta play it like a no hide rouge. Making giving fighter some inate damage reduction perks like cleric instead of defense mastery which only really does anything if ur In full plate.
I’d love to see more combat based skills like clerics judgment. It’s so fun to use and it seems odd it’s one of the only skills that can be used as a “weapon”
yeah please get rid of deranking, so annoying sometimes when you get killed by something you cant help or as what happens in the game just some random bs. Im down with the deranking in the current rank and not losing that rank but you could always just make it so if you die your just at 0 gain
Usually 2 weeks after wipe. Hopefully they have it out sooner but so much shit happens when wipe goes live so usually gets back burnered bc some crazy bug or something breaks.
Falchion does 42 damage, longsword is only 47, just 5 more, with slower move speed, slowing swing speed, and slower on hit slow, and worse scaling as it’s a 2 handed weapon. Falchion is fine, and if we are gonna argue it needs a buff then the longsword definitely does
@@Schwarzlose which is entirely reliant on dsync and how the servers feeling that evening. A one handed faster swinging weapon shouldn’t have a higher base damage than a slower 2 handed weapon. And why does the longsword has a lower on hit slow? It’s comparable to Castilian dagger, which is just silly.
@@greentext2345 it’s a 125 modifier, it’s already been nerfed by 25%, about half of the riposte damage was removed. It’s already barely worth going for a parry, any less damage and never would be,
I worked 5pm to 8am tending bar and due that regularly every weekend outside of summers. I would love nothing more than to get a chance to play arena, maybe game limit is better? 10-20 games a week?
Spud touched on something I have wanted about spawn points having random types. Medium mob, range mob etc etc. But go further than axe/mace man or bola/archer.
I think there's a point for them making multi-classing an event for the end of wipe and if they continue to do that, I think in their mind the devs are thinking people keep holding on to that good gear until the end of wipe. So let's put something in place that makes them change their rhythm to start using all their good items early on and losing more of their good items so other people can have it and they use it and they lose it I think the devs want to make people stop holding on to things The devs don't want people to get in the way of the flow of items and currency hoarding Good items messes with that flow because not everyone is bossing. Not everyone wants to continue to do that to get good items and you doing that and getting the good items Is a way for it to get added into the flow of things
Pro Tip: You don't have to spend 5-15k per kit to "get good" Thanks for coming to my TedTalk ALSO, ya'll are missing out on the worst part of mid journey stashing. These Rats or teams could loot others with great kits and go down. You usually chase those people to steal the shit they have on them. That's not the case now, because all the shit they've stolen or looted is now mid journey stashed and they have dick all on them continuing in. So you chased for no reason with no reward.
I want the sub-level of GC to be the underdark and have spiders and Dark Elf enemies so we can get a Dark Elf skin on the topic of filling matches between levels, im not a fan because you cant kill everyone on the top level to guarantee you have an empty next level to do the boss in peace on the topic of expressman, i think they said it has to be 'Looted' status, anything anyone brought in cant be saved with Otto, so if you kill someone and take their kit (or rat it off a corpse) you have to actually survive and take it through an extract yourself
Gear looted off enemies players is given the looted state. This was changed at the end of last wipe to help incentivize pvp during AP farming. So you are able to take out gear taken off an enemy player. Just figured I’d lyk :)
the problem with removing the 125+ is that it takes away from the free players being able to use their purples. we keep forgetting there is a split with high roller and having bought the game. Theres just a problem with gear and cheaters for making free player having access to the best access to loot. Although i would love a harder mode or just making it 3 total modes, its just never gonna be okay to split any further or give more access to cheaters. We are in a cheating epidemic with all gaming sadly so gotta tread slowly.
Soma is it possible to get any dark and darker merch like they’ve done before? I’ve asked before and I know you said you’re gonna release some stuff soon! I’d like to spend money on shirts or a hat or stickers, all that little stuff. The new in game shop is great.
Arena solo self found is going to be great,it gives you the time to find a kit and not lose it straight away. Only improving everyones skill, The only people who dont like it are the streamers the same with the new gear score, They have to face players on an even'ish playing field and they all hate it, #but 99% love it only the 1% loud ones dont
I'm so sick of streamers complaining about rats. Bro, you left the room for like three minutes to chase that last guy and expect your loot to all still be there? It's a hardcore pvp extraction game, you have to make tough calls and sometimes you don't get everything
Three layer would work if they had spuddys and Soma's poi discussion as well as first layer being heavy PVP like goblin caves with spuddys loot elaboration and the inferno layer basically like a Jamba juice just printing money im not talking like guaranteed named items but if we ran two concurrent lobbies and then requeued the lobbies into one aftee the first or secons layer then thered still be organic pvp but im not a progammer and im smokin a fat joint
1:11:17 for anyone who hasn’t tried, mobile dark n darker is pretty fun i got into the beta, can attest it held my attention while i was at work lol idk what soma is saying that its similar to pubg mobile, its literally dark and darker but on the phone with some new mechanics
I think the community has a baked in hate for wiz after how OP it was in the early playtest. It sucks but I dont think wiz will ever be a good class again
Skill Based Matchmaking system I assume this stands and falls with the player base size. But I still am curious, is that possible in the future of this game?
im perfectly fine with them adding multiclassing as an end wipe event, i just think if there gonna do that they should tell people a week ahead of time because people save good gear for this particular time of wipe. had they said a week ago they were doing this people couldve used there stuff and the people bitching would actually have 0 reason to bitch. alot of them would anyways cuz god forbid they dont know what the most broken class is to mid max for a week, but you can literally chalk that up to children being children. I feel like just dropping mc on people created a valid complaint which sucks to have in terms of an event.
People "hate" "flipping" items because it's not as earned I guess? Personally i respect merchanting. You can't hate a man for game knowledge and better understanding of the economy then you... plus merchanting isn't even hard you just gotta take time to learn prices
I enjoy the dynamic SpudHunter brings to the podcast
1. Arena gives ‘found loot’ new value, putting more emphasis on a core tenant of the game.
2. Ice caves treasure hoard was goated, add it back
3. Queue refill on the 3 stack maps is a must, but they should add some sort of 3rd party deterrent like locking the boss doors
4. Devs need to post a weekly ‘guaranteed for next wipe’
‘Maybe, probably not’
‘No way’
They get so excited and spill beans on interviews, leading to impossible expectations. I don’t want them to die at their desks working. (Soma mentioned more official previews and communications)
5. They should have communicated about the multiclass event. Also there should be a banner on the client or menu that clearly states it is an event.
Banger of an episode, great work guys!
Really hoping that the Ice Caves loot room "Icicle" is juiced this next season. Ina Ryan6DaysaWeek video he showed a new Ice Boss so maybe they will add it to the the middle room and turn it back into a POI
The three tier dungeon thing was fun as hell. Only time I play 3s is with Timmy bros. It makes the entire adventure so much more rewarding. Just surviving PVE that long is huge. If we survive trios pvp, even more joyful win. The lobbies being smaller, the deeeper you go, make the pvp interactions more organic. No offense but streamers viewpoints are askewed from AVG Joes and Timmies. 8hrs a day dealing with stream snipers/ rats w/e. Meta/BIS are for the sweatys. The game needs pure dungeon diving vibes maintained to bring in new players.
@@markthepro88 I hated the 3 tier system in the past, but with the post hound and player refill in between levels, I think I'll enjoy it
It will also make it harder for me to obtain BiS for arena so it'll give me an incentive to grind
AMEN to this comment!
@@vultrex1839 Yeah give postmaster stuff to buy it back for 1k gold makes no sense
@@vultrex1839 sadly they said player refills wont be coming for a while
The absolute best pvp I've had is fighting over exits either out the dungeon or to lower floors, solo blue stairs with 2 mins or less on the clock is the great, trios fighting over red stairs or the lift /raft.
TheLorr should just 2v3 with Soapy, would be siiiiiiick
Hel yea
100% but knowing Soapy he wouldn't like that
thelorr the goat 🐐 been hyped for this
Lorr is playing Dark and Darker during the podcast😂😂😂
scimitars would be so hype, one for main hand one for offhand, maybe the main hand one could even replace the kris dagger on warlock
Briefly touched on the Kris dagger removal but no one said much and we moved on
Soma's sassy lisp voice had me genuinely laughing out loud to myself lmao
At around 30 minutes thelorr doesn't understand why people are so mad.
Me and my friends are pretty new to the game like 200ish hours. We have been saving $ and pieces of kits to make like a last game 20k+ kit run. The patch drops, we died to two warlocks with dreamwalk, phantomize, magic missile, and fireballs. We couldn't hit them, they could shotgun our melee players without taking damage with MM and I couldn't kill anyone on wizard because everything I hit someone 2-3 times and they got low, dream walk, or phantomize proc run away while a diff pressures. It just felt so stupid to lose to just random shit we NEVER would have saw coming. Then we proceed to play a few more games I died to a fighter who turned into a demon lost to my fighter as he was running away he took a fucking book out, went invisible, i was cleric so he legit ran past my fighter stabbed me in the head 3x I died like what the fuck man..... how do I read that shit???? Wtf did I do wrong. Then he started healing himself like bro what the fuck, he's a plate fucking fighter???? Everything we have learned all season means nothing and when we die it never feels like ahh I fucked up or they are just better. It just feels like whaa... what the fuck just happened dude???
Thank the Lord its only for a week.
If you don't know what's happening then clearly it's a skill issue.
Yeah I've been playing this game since pt 2 and I feel pretty much the same way when they do this multi class bs.
MC is a joke, just treat it like an event betweens wipes tbh. It won't stick around for a whole wipe so it won'tb e around too long
its here for a last week of wipe event, have some fun for once.
The aussie guy has some really good points
Crazy that I agree the classes feel the most balanced in a long/ever while and I haven't wanted to play the game in 3 weeks since it's just not fun to play with the current metas in the game lol. Good ass podcast boys. Glad you got Lorr on finally. Massive W creator and good ass dude
Eyyy TheLorr, automatically best episode.
Spud, jay and thelorr. Fire.
What am I, chopped liver?! lol
@@_Soma you really do be in the comments! I didn't mean it like that though. They were pretty much the 3 first content creators I watched for this game. But you are the glue Soma, you keep spud from going too wild and make sure Jay is still awake haha! And after last episode I think i resonate with your takes the most. Excited for this episode, gonna listen when I get on the airplane!
@@JSON_bourne I was just fuckin with ya
For those of you who don’t know, Lorr makes music and it’s honestly fire, go check it out!
Im fucking tired of playing the squishest fuckinh class ever ranger, im done im switching to warlock tomorrow fuck this class. Im so angry because i learned this class and it is so bad right now with all the mages and fighters and warlocks. Its in the end of the bottom.
Just began the episode, anyone willing to place a bet that theLorr will mention macha coffeee, mcdonalds or we-ed??
Should make goblin caves the first tier of ice dungeons until they get stuff sorted for the top layer of that and bottom of goblin. Otto and postman should only be going from 2 to 3 so you have to get through 2 layers to extract gear
the otto saving and new matchmaking system sounds badass, cant wait to check it out!
Thelorr is so humble great dude 🫡 love that guy
Absolutely awesome to have thelorr on. Love that dude.
The main reason I'm upset about MC coming back for a week is I was planning on using the last week as a hail Mary for the couple named items and expensive kits I've saved up with a friend and getting some reps in on geared PVP without having to worry about being broke after. MC has basically destroyed any notion of what I want to do in the game, so I'm just not playing till wipe. I'm not spamming gen chat like those degens, but it's definitely a big blow to what I've been planning for a month.
I feel exactly the same way.. was planning builds & saving pieces/gold for dedicated kits, but with MC now my builds are totally thrown off and I hate the idea of losing my hard-earned gear to broken builds that are the definition of unfun to play against. super disappointing end to an otherwise enjoyable season!
You had a pretty decent lead-up to this happening and knew a month in advance when wipe was gonna happen. I wouldn't have waited this long.
@@duncangreywater didn't expect the game to be turned into a gimmick mode with no opt out
@@duncangreywater the final ~48hrs of previous wipes have been the real bonanza when everyone uses their best gear in a crazy frenzy.. it was awesome, and totally expected that again this season. can't blame people for expecting something similar again this time! patience is a virtue!
all would have been fine if they just announced it like 2 weeks before it happend
Spud said what ive been saying about wizard. Wizard was dogshit for a year, playable for 2 weeks, and nerfed again
quiver could also be put on the back slot so you can choose if you want a cape or a quiver. there could be some stats like fire rate or strength on them and there could be a legendary one that gives you magic arrows or something
Love listening to this while driving at work. Transport patients by ambulance and this pod really makes my day go by quicker wish there were 2 eps a week! Yea game feels so balanced and i love it! Applaud ironmace and excited for wipe i put in pto for the 6th its my bday and wipe gonne be LIT 🎉🎉
Hell yeah dude glad you like it. I’m thinking of starting a second podcast but I haven’t decided yet
Since I am mostly playing solo, I don't do bossing too much and the idea might not reflect the reality for duos and trios, but what if the boss would give some kind of significant buff or an item that activates automatically as soon as you loot it. It could encourage killing the boss, since for a period you could become stronger and have an advantage in a team fight. In a nutshell, it is a similar idea as killing a mid boss in deadlock.
somas point on modding, mentioning skyrim and such. i personally think dark and darker would thrive as a sandbox type of game, allowing players to create their own skills/spells to hopefully encourage and open a new side of dark and darker. With the communitys creativity and D&D inspiration, along with the theory of halo forge or something similar. there could be some insanely creative and enjoyable gamemodes that no one would ever think of. I personally think this is the best path for dark and darker if they want a long run and not get replaced by a deecent AAA replica that people will eventually flock to.
people arent gna like this but a strong short term fix to the rats loot dumping meta with postman is to shorten the timer on the first floor. if theres only time to get in 1 or 2 fights, theres not enough time for rats to wait for the coast to be clear or for teams to stray too far from portals. the obvious drawback is theyd be limiting time on the new* map and new bosses. on top of this, i think you should have to lift open the gate to reds instead of being able to sprint down them instantly. the lifted gate would stay up for like 8 seconds before falling again
Totatly what sucked me in. The infinite feeling to it in such an enclosed space that there's nowhere to go but up
Things I would love to see in this game
-3 tier system for all the maps
-More spell diversity
-Normalize movement speed and just add abilities that either increase it or give mobility
-Give every weapon a block and a special attack to give weapon diversity
-Roaming bosses
-Special mobs
-More RPG leveling(Skill points for talents/crafting/gathering)
-Make HR way more enticing(implement the arena soul bound gear idea to HR)
-Let us collect gold coins and silver coins in larger stacks
-Increase gold purse, bag and chest capacity
-Get rid of weapon slowdown while attacking, just feels bad as a mechanic
Weapon slow is really important as someone who enjoys melee. Take it is use longsword so there’s almost none but even the small amount i get is absolutely required to be able to kill any kiting class
@@Zorkalot pretty sure he meant only on attack (like while you're swinging), not hit
Weapon slow needs to be a thing I play barb why would I ever not be attacking
It’s also a core fighting mechanic you need a window to punish the attacker a rogue would never be able to weave in and out of hits would just get stat checked all the time
@@dakku5019 you misunderstand. Not that weapons shouldn't slow you down, the fact that when you're attacking, your own movement speed goes down which just feels clunky especially with how movement speed is king in this game so unless you catch someone off guard, the game just devolves into putting weapons away and kiting.
@@LaserReptar you misunderstand. He is saying that self slow down is essential for classes like rouge to be viable.
Can confirm about the 2 shot rogue or ranger with 60+ agi with panther. Have used it and have been killed by it and its actually insane how fast people died. Same with the bearbarian with like 50+ strength its just a one shot headshot to most things.Also W Podcast and W video keep it up boys!
Thelorr is the goat slayer turned ranger
i used to flip lanterns back at the trading post like it was nobody's business
I suppose you could make it so you can only unload treasure only to make room for more loot.
That would solve a few rat problems.
They need to make it so the post master can’t take equipped items. You can give him everything in your inventory except what you have currently equipped. If you hop in and loot you’ll go down to the next level, give it to the post master and keep going with what you’ve got on you. If you want to loot around you’ll have to remove your gear before going into the portal but that will limit how much money you can make cause the space is taken up by what you’re trying to keep
monk with a wukong monkey skin would be sick
1:37:55 this talk about fighter dealing more dmg with bow got me thinking. Plate wearers should get their strenght/phys power reduced? Cuz plate armor irl( I know its a game but..) is like heavy and pulling arrow string or doing a blow with sword is way harder, slower compared to someones who is wearing light armor
Hot take. Ranger Knight perk. Ranger can wear all plate armor minus helmets and gauntlets lol
So a worst fighter?
@@greentext2345 no, the plate lets them get more strength, vig, as well as Pdr, but they also have different perks and skills. Just a fun perk, probably wouldn’t be meta.
Awesome episode, thank you boys Huge Love
Dang the lorr is….handsome, nice man
They should remove the 1 way ap payment for the layered maps I mean if im in the ice caves and got like full inventory of loot I should be able to pay the half ap and just extract
they should have announced the multi-class ending at least a month out to get our bis kits gone in a natural way
49:15 Thats an easy fix. Just make reds not infinite and have matchmaking between floors. Make the floors worth while going to and players will flood there. I feel like this issue is being thought of in the context of no matchmaking between floors.
hell yeah new podcast to start off the weekend and we got the lorr!
I'm excited for wipe but am worried about the dungeon exchange system / Otto. I believe a way they can balance it is to make it so you have to escape to get the loot you stored or you either lose all of it or get a few items at random like the goblin merchant.
I have felt sus about certain people finding me while I hide for quests or whatnot. First time I tried crouch/friendly checking behind cover at some dude rolling up on me I discovered he was 100% confirmed cheating. Sad!
My theory on Wizard is this. People die to spells and feel like they have been hit by so much more than arrows for example. A fireball in the face is far more visually shocking than an arrow or axe to the nose.
I would also bet that most people who cry about wizard haven't tried the class much.
Eh rangers kinda bad the current problem with wizard is its way to suppressive.
@@greentext2345 Due to rate of spells, or simply due to the perceived effect (large visual appearance of particles)? Rangers can more effectively suppress at range than a wizard.
I've played as and against wizards and it's tougher playing as one for the most part, until you get good gear. Anyone with speed and health just rushes you.
As far as the expressman goes I feel like you should only be able to drop off quest items, huge ancient scrolls gold waterpots etc especially since they take up so much space. I believe player gear shouldn't be dropped off because it allows for an example a duo/trio to fight for their teammates gear back.
This was my first wipe it was alot of ups and downs but im really over the pve/pvp and the cheaters.
Instead of buffing weapon damage on weapons, they could just buff slayer itself to give extra weapon damage. It would be a direct buff to slayer and not give the PDR guys more than they already have.
I love the multiclass event. I think to keep everyone happy they couldve had MC be in norms and HR stays the same but thatd be a lot of extra backend work so idk how viable a solution like that could be for a week event.
I understand jay's and spuddy's point on the expressmen but lets be real, a static blue opens and I can still get out for free. it literally changes nothing. On the note of loot needing to be worth it, i shouldnt open a Gold chest in inferno or abyss HR and see all blues, they need to up the chance on legendary+epic gear in the golden chests, especially if theyre reworking AP system.
The self found system for Arena is gona be a banger.
Slayers issue isn’t damage tho. A few wipes ago slayer was doing 160s with a falchion, and even then it wasn’t super strong in trios. Fighters meant to be a frontline and slayers just get melted too fast to do that, you gotta play it like a no hide rouge. Making giving fighter some inate damage reduction perks like cleric instead of defense mastery which only really does anything if ur In full plate.
I’d love to see more combat based skills like clerics judgment. It’s so fun to use and it seems odd it’s one of the only skills that can be used as a “weapon”
Magic Missile?
@@greentext2345 that’s a spell, not a skill.
great ep great pod
Ironmace needs to add counterspell to wizard
dnd logic I love that, but how would it work?
The lorr makes awesome videos for sure
yeah please get rid of deranking, so annoying sometimes when you get killed by something you cant help or as what happens in the game just some random bs. Im down with the deranking in the current rank and not losing that rank but you could always just make it so if you die your just at 0 gain
How much time the High Roller rewards takes to come for our accounts?
Usually 2 weeks after wipe. Hopefully they have it out sooner but so much shit happens when wipe goes live so usually gets back burnered bc some crazy bug or something breaks.
1:46:10 What Spud here is describing is basically the stat system that Dungeonborne uses. DaD really should copy that stat system.
Falchion does 42 damage, longsword is only 47, just 5 more, with slower move speed, slowing swing speed, and slower on hit slow, and worse scaling as it’s a 2 handed weapon. Falchion is fine, and if we are gonna argue it needs a buff then the longsword definitely does
longsword has parry
@@Schwarzlose which is entirely reliant on dsync and how the servers feeling that evening. A one handed faster swinging weapon shouldn’t have a higher base damage than a slower 2 handed weapon. And why does the longsword has a lower on hit slow? It’s comparable to Castilian dagger, which is just silly.
@@Zorkalot I think a way of improving this would be to buff longsword base damage and nerf long sword parry damage.
@@greentext2345 it’s a 125 modifier, it’s already been nerfed by 25%, about half of the riposte damage was removed. It’s already barely worth going for a parry, any less damage and never would be,
I worked 5pm to 8am tending bar and due that regularly every weekend outside of summers. I would love nothing more than to get a chance to play arena, maybe game limit is better? 10-20 games a week?
Devs definetly cooking
Spud touched on something I have wanted about spawn points having random types. Medium mob, range mob etc etc. But go further than axe/mace man or bola/archer.
shapeshift buffball is nuts. haha
I still watch the trailer to dark and darker to hype myself up to play 🔥
Hell yeah❤
I truly miss Donnie but spuddy is an absolute legend and is a great fit for the pod
I think there's a point for them making multi-classing an event for the end of wipe and if they continue to do that, I think in their mind the devs are thinking people keep holding on to that good gear until the end of wipe. So let's put something in place that makes them change their rhythm to start using all their good items early on and losing more of their good items so other people can have it and they use it and they lose it I think the devs want to make people stop holding on to things The devs don't want people to get in the way of the flow of items and currency hoarding Good items messes with that flow because not everyone is bossing. Not everyone wants to continue to do that to get good items and you doing that and getting the good items Is a way for it to get added into the flow of things
Once a Druid goes into rat form I start licking my lips for that one shot snipe kill. I hope they go rat 🤣
I was just killed by a level 175 fighter with blood exchange. someone please explain?
Pro Tip: You don't have to spend 5-15k per kit to "get good"
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ALSO, ya'll are missing out on the worst part of mid journey stashing. These Rats or teams could loot others with great kits and go down. You usually chase those people to steal the shit they have on them. That's not the case now, because all the shit they've stolen or looted is now mid journey stashed and they have dick all on them continuing in. So you chased for no reason with no reward.
I want the sub-level of GC to be the underdark and have spiders and Dark Elf enemies so we can get a Dark Elf skin
on the topic of filling matches between levels, im not a fan because you cant kill everyone on the top level to guarantee you have an empty next level to do the boss in peace
on the topic of expressman, i think they said it has to be 'Looted' status, anything anyone brought in cant be saved with Otto, so if you kill someone and take their kit (or rat it off a corpse) you have to actually survive and take it through an extract yourself
Gear looted off enemies players is given the looted state. This was changed at the end of last wipe to help incentivize pvp during AP farming. So you are able to take out gear taken off an enemy player. Just figured I’d lyk :)
Underdark is a great idea.
the problem with removing the 125+ is that it takes away from the free players being able to use their purples. we keep forgetting there is a split with high roller and having bought the game. Theres just a problem with gear and cheaters for making free player having access to the best access to loot. Although i would love a harder mode or just making it 3 total modes, its just never gonna be okay to split any further or give more access to cheaters. We are in a cheating epidemic with all gaming sadly so gotta tread slowly.
Unfortunately I don't think the game should consider free to play in the decisions of the game.
I think boss and mini boss kills should add time to the timer.
That's an interesting idea. Might be difficult depending on the backend though.
Soma is it possible to get any dark and darker merch like they’ve done before? I’ve asked before and I know you said you’re gonna release some stuff soon! I’d like to spend money on shirts or a hat or stickers, all that little stuff. The new in game shop is great.
Hell yeah, about time for some lorr lore
Arena solo self found is going to be great,it gives you the time to find a kit and not lose it straight away. Only improving everyones skill, The only people who dont like it are the streamers the same with the new gear score, They have to face players on an even'ish playing field and they all hate it, #but 99% love it only the 1% loud ones dont
I'm so sick of streamers complaining about rats. Bro, you left the room for like three minutes to chase that last guy and expect your loot to all still be there? It's a hardcore pvp extraction game, you have to make tough calls and sometimes you don't get everything
Thelorr is the goat!
S tier podcast ❤
Three layer would work if they had spuddys and Soma's poi discussion as well as first layer being heavy PVP like goblin caves with spuddys loot elaboration and the inferno layer basically like a Jamba juice just printing money im not talking like guaranteed named items but if we ran two concurrent lobbies and then requeued the lobbies into one aftee the first or secons layer then thered still be organic pvp but im not a progammer and im smokin a fat joint
Euthaphro!!!!
Good episode
Thelorr is Kramers son
Did they talk about Warlock getting the Kris taken from them at any point in this?
did they talk about state of ranger or just said o nice seeing you play it Lorr ?
Ranger is in a great spot atm, what's there to talk about?
@@Just-the-Gameplay Its kind of under tuned right now.
@@greentext2345 as a ranger main I can get behind that
@@Just-the-Gameplay I only think forceful shot should break doors and it should be fairly balanced.
@2:01:30 I think a lot of ppl agree with you less disparity in gear is good
1:11:17 for anyone who hasn’t tried, mobile dark n darker is pretty fun i got into the beta, can attest it held my attention while i was at work lol idk what soma is saying that its similar to pubg mobile, its literally dark and darker but on the phone with some new mechanics
Fuuuuuugyaaaa 🎉❤ just what I needed today
I think the community has a baked in hate for wiz after how OP it was in the early playtest. It sucks but I dont think wiz will ever be a good class again
11:30 I actually thought they put AK47 audio over it for a second wtf
Skill Based Matchmaking system
I assume this stands and falls with the player base size. But I still am curious, is that possible in the future of this game?
I enjoy Ice cavern, only map i play really lol
YES BUFF ROGUE THANK YOU SPUDD
im perfectly fine with them adding multiclassing as an end wipe event, i just think if there gonna do that they should tell people a week ahead of time because people save good gear for this particular time of wipe. had they said a week ago they were doing this people couldve used there stuff and the people bitching would actually have 0 reason to bitch. alot of them would anyways cuz god forbid they dont know what the most broken class is to mid max for a week, but you can literally chalk that up to children being children. I feel like just dropping mc on people created a valid complaint which sucks to have in terms of an event.
Make the Lorr the new perma 4th of the darkest hour?
Thelorr is a cutie
People "hate" "flipping" items because it's not as earned I guess? Personally i respect merchanting. You can't hate a man for game knowledge and better understanding of the economy then you... plus merchanting isn't even hard you just gotta take time to learn prices
I don't see a single bad thing that would happen if they removed this feature though.
Jay facing intel CPU issue RIP...
This lorr guy on to something I ran for an hour or so and listen to the same episode with NotLikeThis
Spuddy is talking about a platypus not a wombat at the start
2 or 3 red portals in GC and have there be a gobo boss down below
the 3 layer runs feel less competitive and just more survival like which i like. to me it plays like how it was always meant to be
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