Pumping a SUPER STEEP, heated, concrete driveway!!!

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  • Pumping concrete for this super steep, heated driveway with Sutherland Concrete LTD in West Vancouver, Canada
    #concretepumping #construction #concrete #concretepump #concretedriveway #putzmeister #canadianconcretepumper

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  • @romangavrilov930
    @romangavrilov930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We use the ones from Concrete pump supply. 4" and 5". 5" is almost never used. It helps to have the reducer, because you can't push the hose, or it'll kink, so you need the leverage of the reducer to rotate the elbow. Benefits are, you can pump slow and really smooth, while keeping a big hose, reducing plugs big time. Dowsides, if the hose guy doesnt know how to push the hose, he can kink it very easily and make a dangerous situation. Also have to watch for wear near the coupler, because they dont stay open, so the concrete wears the hose near the area that it folds at. We use the conforms aircuff with ours always, they say not to, but we havent had an issue. Just turn the pressure down to 40 or so.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is fantastic information! Thank you.
      I just placed an order through Alliance parts department for a 20’ long, 3” diameter lay-flat hose. Typically we’ll hang a 2.5” whip for most of our residential flatwork and architectural pours. With the secondary hopper screen which we run, plugging in a 3” is quite rare, so this should be a nice benefit versus the 2.5” which we’re accustomed to. Can’t wait to try it out!

  • @GRUBB-MUDD
    @GRUBB-MUDD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plenty of guys there at least for the finishers. Good video buddy

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely heavy on man-power. We just wanted to get it in and done before the sun worked it’s way around those trees 😁

  • @gavinperry7237
    @gavinperry7237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The skills of the crew is AWESOME. They are worth every penny & possibly even more

  • @robertaustin-y7j
    @robertaustin-y7j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Scott from those are your finishers that are finishing the driveway is that all they do is the custom work like that or do they do your commercial jobs too that you guys pump and place to

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey buddy! So our guys do primarily custom home stuff, with a smattering of light commercial/industrial work here and there. We sent out an army of guys on this one is we were seeing near record temperatures and wanted to have it placed in before the sun came around the trees. Half of the guys were cut loose as soon as it was placed in and went to do another job about 20 minutes down the road. Job turned out great.

  • @jayburrough4308
    @jayburrough4308 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have a great deal of understanding of your truck that is for sure great job guys

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jayburrough4308 Appreciate the kinds words. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment 🙏

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was the better view, this one or that job with that very steep hill that you did not want to back your truck down on? If you say it’s a tie, I understand haha.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Steep driveway, no contest 😁😁😁
      It’s one of the most gorgeous sites which I’ve been part of in my 25 years doing this. Every time we pour there I take a minute or two just to appreciate it. True story.

  • @MuddyfeetConcretePumping
    @MuddyfeetConcretePumping ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wish I had the ability to articulate the instructions of our profession like you have. Bill has a knack for it also. I look at myself like a bull in a china closet. Great video as usual.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank Jeff, I really do appreciate that. It’s funny, when I’m pre-screening my videos at the kitchen table, my wife chimes in with “how can you talk so much about concrete pumps???”, lol!!!

    • @Bdigital9482
      @Bdigital9482 ปีที่แล้ว

      Articulating what you are an expert in is extremely overrated. It’s is a struggle with myself in my profession as well. Seems as if it should be extremely simple but for whatever reason, it is not.

  • @landonderzaph9965
    @landonderzaph9965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used to work with Roger 4 years ago, glad to see he’s still laying it down

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Roger is a good dude. One of my favourite guys to work with. One of these days I need to have him train me in how to actually finish concrete.

  • @WombleUK
    @WombleUK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder what it costs to run a heated driveway like that?
    Is it common to have heated driveways in Canada?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      The actual cost to run it I would have to do some digging. Off the top of my head I’m going to say it would have to be at least a couple hundred dollars per month (during the freezing months). I wouldn’t say heated driveway are necessarily common here, definitely much more common amongst these higher end homes.

  • @ejakobs9881
    @ejakobs9881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang a heated driveway? I guess that makes sense but i've never heard of that. Pretty neat

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, with our damp, cold climate, it definitely makes sense for some of these steeper driveways (makes sense, if you have the $$$, of course) 😁😁😁

  • @frenchflies1
    @frenchflies1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a good chuckle when I saw you put your lunch on the motor. Back when I worked nights as a deputy sheriff, I would sit a can of food, bowl of chili, etc. on the motor for 20-30 minutes. Sure beat driving all the way home to heat it up!

  • @jessesloan9636
    @jessesloan9636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems most all your pump operators have a pretty decent attitude. Thats preference important with some people. I know in our area disgruntled workers can tend to send things through the pump that shouldn't be all because they might not like the operator. Play nice, get along, makes for easier days when everyone is more apt to help.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve always said the operators are the best sales guys. Placers and mixer drivers should be the pump guys best friends (especially on these residential pours), there often comes a time when we need each other to get out of a sticky situation. The more friends the better.
      All that being said, it’s amazing how trying to squeeze those one or two additional late jobs in a week for maybe not the most organized of customers can destroy moral very quickly (only took us about two decades to figure that on out, lol!).

    • @jessesloan9636
      @jessesloan9636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 Very much the truth. It's a fine line between winning and losing in the industry. The outcomes tend to be extreme on both sides of the spectrum and it all comes down to choice.

  • @lisandrohead6675
    @lisandrohead6675 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the purpose of the brown sugar at 16:55 ? Found myself confused yet fascinated

  • @BWP202
    @BWP202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mike Scoonhoven best concrete man in Canada
    Working on site c dam project in control of all the concrete work
    Look him up and see if he can help you out with pumping questions and or equipment

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike is a legend! Hell of a guy, and one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Between he and Eric Duiker of Cancrete Equipment, I don’t thinks there’s a concrete and/or concrete pump related question which could foil them collectively.

    • @BWP202
      @BWP202 ปีที่แล้ว

      He lives in Nelson BC and I have had the privilege of working on his trucks and equipment for several years
      Performing his annual inspections
      I still see him once every few months in a restaurant in town
      Cheers

  • @temzrceez5146
    @temzrceez5146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the concretes going hard, you go harder 💪🏾 pump on playa 👆🏾

  • @edchester1773
    @edchester1773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done a lot of concrete work. As a Well Driller for 45 years pumping well seals for 1,000's domestic wells, to hundreds of 800ft irrigation and Water District wells, as well as a tremendous amount of form work (treads for stairs and large landings)! I love to watch all your Pours! Subed

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate that my man. Sounds like you’ve got lots of good experience in many facets of construction. I’m guessing your seen more then your fair share of bentonite over the years 😁😁😁

  • @darkshadow69able
    @darkshadow69able ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schwing the pump over here 😂

  • @Readymix-Andy
    @Readymix-Andy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have a 4 inch version, doesn't splash at all. need to make sure the swivel elbow is nice and free so it is always pointing down. Also need a hose guy who a) is not a hose hugger b) realises it can't be pushed as far as a regular hose as it will kink and block.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m considering the 4” version over the 3” because it would be essentially “plug proof” with the mixes and hopper screens which we run. Thank you for the input 🙏🙏🙏

  • @tonycamaj7243
    @tonycamaj7243 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much mud was that? That was some job you guys did bro.

  • @markbailey9384
    @markbailey9384 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s a mud snake?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They also call them "lay-flat" hoses. Essentially a water pump hose with a heavy duty flange in place of the typical aluminum coupling. Not very common in our market, but I could definitely see them being handy for those jobs in which we would typically hang a 20' hose to get over/around/between the house(s).

  • @edchester1773
    @edchester1773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:57 is that Bentonite?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir! Powdered bentonite. We mix it up with water for priming the pump/lines. I also like coating the inside of hopper with it for an easy washout.

  • @kimvasquez1435
    @kimvasquez1435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lay flat hoses are essential to have on the deck. They come in super handy for every and any type of wall that can be poured. It can get down in between rebar for tall walls and in real tight situations you can run any possible way due to the flexibility. I mean everyone has their preference but for me they aren’t very idealistic for slabs and flat work just because you can’t maneuver the hose very well because instead of pushing the hose side to side, where your hands are , the hose will just bend. Again if it works for you sweet , just giving my two cents. Btw my favorite part of this video was the Lowkey “I’m not that old”😂😂

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just put an order in for a 20’ lay-flat (3” diameter) from Alliance parts department. Looking forward to trying out an upcoming architectural wall and/or sidewalk pour.

  • @mikeeemike988
    @mikeeemike988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So when you set up. On a down hill. You like the non working side to be a little higher then the working side?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      I always like my non-working side to be very slightly higher (like 1 degrees) as I find that the machine is less prone to lifting outriggers on the “light side” when the boom is fully stretched out. Manufacturers spec. is within 3 degrees, so this is just my own personal preference within their specifications.

  • @mikeklein318
    @mikeklein318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's nice not to chain up to get out of the driveway, but snow turns to water, where does that go , and hell of a fuel in the winter. I'm in California bay area.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      The melt off runs into the drains placed at verifies location throughout the driveway. Usually with these types of homes, heating the driveway 4-5 months per year is “within the budget” 😂😂😂

  • @IndyJones243
    @IndyJones243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran several over the years. Even a 5” running slow would no splash. Make sure swivel elbow is really loose. If not that’s where it would jam also first place to wear out. Can be a little pain to wash out. Overall loved them not sure if cost versus wear is worth it.

  • @staudtj1
    @staudtj1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't sawcutting pex embedded concrete a Bit Dicey?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just have to make certain the pipes aren’t set/don’t float too close to the surface. Definitely have to be extra careful.

  • @BZ1340
    @BZ1340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hopefully on the next heated driveway pour you’ll go a little more in depth how the heated system works. Boiler etc. Temp it works at, is it glycol they use etc. Drain system needed

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For sure. Next time we’ve got one coming up I’ll try liaise with the plumber to get all the details.

    • @redjohnson4859
      @redjohnson4859 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well.... for one thing, don't use electrician's tape on the PEX tubing.... the 'pressure sensitive adhesive' eats it.

    • @gavinperry7237
      @gavinperry7237 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redjohnson4859What method of fastening to rebar do you recommend

    • @pulporock
      @pulporock ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redjohnson4859 Is that what it was?
      No insulation under the pipes, it must cost a bomb to heat.

  • @bobsundance9297
    @bobsundance9297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So. .....so. love the videos!

  • @ConcretePumpingService
    @ConcretePumpingService ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking good 😎
    That crew made that pour look like a piece of cake. Great work all around.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks brother! Looking forward to the next video from ya!

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And shit, just like that I see that you posted one up just an hour ago! Also, I somehow wasn’t yet subscribed to your channel (fixed that right away).

  • @EliRivera-do5nc
    @EliRivera-do5nc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever primed back in the hopper or is phx the only crazy people ?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually do it quite regularly, usually on pours where we don’t have anywhere suitable for spreading the fist bit of wet stuff out of the boom. It’s a great option. Priming back into the mixer can be a good one as well. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @EliRivera-do5nc
      @EliRivera-do5nc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 I’ve never though about priming back into a mixer . Once again thank you for teaching me something new

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EliRivera-do5nc just be careful when you do, that the end of the hose isn’t butted up flush against any of the mixers fins. I learned this one the hard way on a two week old pump, using black coloured concrete, setup on a busy downtown Vancouver street 🙃🙃🙃

    • @EliRivera-do5nc
      @EliRivera-do5nc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 I found out water washing . When that hose kicks out you are in for a clean up day. The mixer the pump the street and any other car you get concrete on. Gota love the rookie days

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EliRivera-do5nc I still revert back to rookie status typically at least once per calendar year 😂😂😂

  • @chevy1986
    @chevy1986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks great, nice work

  • @garrettd6505
    @garrettd6505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man. Youre blessed with such small aggregate and smooth mud. In maryland we have to deal with 1 to 1.5in aggregate all day and remanufactured sand. No chance of a 2.5 in hose. Were stuck with the 4 and 5 inchers.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a day goes by that I don’t appreciate that materials which we have to work with around here. Some days I almost feel guilty pumping through 200’ of all 2” line. We get new guys whom complain about having to drag hose, and I constantly remind them how lucky they are not having to deal with 4” and 5” line. Almaty need to send them out your way for a short tour to smarten ‘em up! 😁😁😁

    • @garrettd6505
      @garrettd6505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 dont feel too guilty. For most commercial jobs we have the finishers help hook up all the pipe. We rarely use more than 50 ft of hose on line jobs. I recently saw the dragon egg video. That looks so much easier than dragging hose pans. Im gonna have to make a recommendation to the higher ups

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@garrettd6505 Yeah man, we LOVE the dragon eggs. I was a little bit skeptical as to how well the composite shell would hold up, but we've put some good mileage on these things now and they're still performing as new.

  • @caesar1295
    @caesar1295 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that has got to be one expensive heated driveway, that view is spectacular. Turn a switch to clear your driveway of snow and ice what a way to go. Enjoyed the videos I was a tower crane tech for 30 years and watched many yards of concrete being poured and pumped up high rises. In the winter I would stand beside poured walls to get any heat from them to make it thru the days while jacking up tower cranes.

  • @randyanderson1983
    @randyanderson1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE PUMPING CONCRETE❤🎉!!!!

  • @gavinperry7237
    @gavinperry7237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you ever send a camera through the boom to verify cleanliness if mechanical issues arise that may affect clean out procedure

  • @houcineachtouk8827
    @houcineachtouk8827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done

  • @smurphy820
    @smurphy820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boston Kreme is a thing in New England as well. It's my favorite Dunkin' Doughnut.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Solid intel. Fun fact: the Boston Kreme is almost solely responsible for my current lack of abdominal conditioning 😂

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Up here we have “Nanaimo Bar”, which is actually from Nanaimo.

  • @codypenner5383
    @codypenner5383 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos! As a young guy just starting out on a concrete pump these videos have helped me alot! Keep up the great work!

  • @pietmorees2775
    @pietmorees2775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super👍👍👍greetings from Amsterdam

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome brother. Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏🙏🙏

    • @pietmorees2775
      @pietmorees2775 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 i watching al you concrete pumps i like it i work in Amsterdam by a concrete factory and my father was a cocrete pumper 1969 to 2017 in 1988 concrete mixer

  • @KyleMorpheus
    @KyleMorpheus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful location!

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely don’t take for granted being able to work at sites like this 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @ehcoroche
    @ehcoroche ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the vid as always, will be checking on the updates on the lay flat, feels like a while lotta potential fuckery to me, put in the basket with the roughneck reducding hoses as "im just gonna stick to how i know"

    • @ehcoroche
      @ehcoroche ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣there is ZERO chance you want that model off the coffee table... your wife, as with all our long suffering compantions might, but it feels like a perfect place for the Schwing to me ;)

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a hose guy, an ran one on a foundation pour and really didn’t like it in terms of that it didn’t like being pushed around like a regular hose. For most of our flatwork pours, the guys aren’t really pushing too much as the priority is just to keep potential splatter down. I’m thinking it could be very helpful for that.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ehcoroche I’m probably just going to keep it and have one shipped from Schwing directly to the contest winner. Just going to tell my wife that nobody won the contest, so the Schwing will be going onto the mantle for the time being 😂

    • @ehcoroche
      @ehcoroche ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 there's a reason I bought a die cast model to give to my boss last Christmas... And I still have that one and the whoa chance extra I got as surety as well 🤣🤣😉😉

    • @ehcoroche
      @ehcoroche ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're addicts to the machines my friend, but for one I'm okay with it 😉😉

  • @زهرهحقیقی-خ1خ
    @زهرهحقیقی-خ1خ ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @rickyallen6886
    @rickyallen6886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this your company?

  • @samsiryani9023
    @samsiryani9023 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s really old school, my father use to cook the best sausages in wrapped in foil under the company’s monster of a furnace and before lunch he would put his meal and then a perfectly cooked sausage lol. That really brought back memories with you doing that. Great stuff sir.

  • @Campol09
    @Campol09 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate when finishers stand on my pads with their boots full of concrete. Or when they wash their boots on my pads. Lol 😂

    • @Campol09
      @Campol09 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big rock and rocky mix. Just water wash for the best. 😅

  • @seanthompson9519
    @seanthompson9519 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some people have too much $$. A heated driveway in vancouver😂. Nice videos man

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The amount of money in this town is absolutely mind-boggling. Us pumps guys just need to figure out a way to get in on a piece of the action 😂😂😂

  • @sgheavyauto4361
    @sgheavyauto4361 ปีที่แล้ว

    on a site with views of that nature have you ever thought about mounting a camera to the tip of the boom and putting the boom at full vertical extension and really enjoying the view?

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally have, and most definitely will one of these days 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @DangleMan27
    @DangleMan27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been loving these longer video’s lately. With today being the exception, this is perfect Saturday/ Sunday morning coffee content.
    My question for you is why do you spray water into the s-tube rather then to just open the prime port and fill? Am I missing a trick?
    Also a know you’ve been saying you’ve had a rough go with priming with slick through rubber hose. I do it with 3-3.5in and what I’ve been doing lately is when I’m attaching my hoses, I spray oil in the metal coupling ends of the hose. And when I use the slick, I throw a few squirts of dawn dish soap on top before I fill it up with water. When this mixture is pumped, I’ve found it to separate less and almost create a huge bubble inside the hoses. One of these days I’ll get a video sent your way on how to.

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be awesome to see a video of your prime out with the slick. I’ve heard guys mention the dish soap trick as well. Would be cool to see it in action.
      The reason why I spray water up into the barrels rather than removing the prime-port cap and spraying into there: it’s quicker/easier and, it works 😂. I’ll use the port when priming with bentonite on the larger booms, but I haven’t really found any need to use it for the mid-sized and smaller machines.
      Appreciate you watching the channel my man. I swear that us concrete pumpers are the only ones messed up enough in the head to sit through watching 40+ minutes of what we do for a living the other 5-6 days of the week. It’s fantastic!!! 😁😁😁

    • @DangleMan27
      @DangleMan27 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 I will definitely get to work on that video for you.
      You are right though, we are kind of messed up😂

  • @2brazy4ubitch
    @2brazy4ubitch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that shit cray

    • @canadianconcretepumper1979
      @canadianconcretepumper1979  ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment best summarizes it 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @2brazy4ubitch
      @2brazy4ubitch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canadianconcretepumper1979 im guessing it’s the municipalities making people build super far from the road on even these steep ass sites due to set back requirements? makes no fuckin’ sense garage should just be at road grade