I have both VR and IRheadtracker. Personally I like the headtracker but both are great for DCS. Infact some could say an IRtracker or VR is required for DCS considering much much you have to look around and constantly looking back down in your cockpit.
"Sometimes, you don't win all your engagements. All you can do is take down as many as you can with you, even though in the end? You were never going to make it out alive..." Is truly a chilling quote, it sounds like the intro to the final chapter of a hero's story. I stop by this video every once in a blue moon because The Prowler's theme combined with DCS just hits so hard.
This is why I play DCS. That 1 hour of serenity flying into the AO, then 1 minute where all hell breaks loose. And then flying all the way back to homeplate at 30K feet, cruising, amazed that I actually survived, elated that I'm heading home, chatting with my wingman, admiring the moon and tense because I suck at landing at night hahaha. So much emotion, so much immersion.
Now imagine, that you have not planned mission like in DCS, but you have dynamic campaign like in Falcon 4 Allied Force or Falcon BMS and your gaming experience will get doubled.
You gotta just love the aggressiveness of flying low around mountains just above the tree top, especially in something as archaic as a tomcat that's got lots of canopy interference from support arms and the like.
I play vtol vr instead of dcs, but the feeling is mutual. There is nothing that can compare to the feeling when I watch a SAM cross my nose at only a couple dozen feet, only to see there are three more coming and weaving through all of them. Or the pure endorphins when I'm locked in a rolling scissors or in a toilet bowl with an equally matched opponent.
I love VTOL VR! I don't seem to have the patience to learn DCS well enough to accomplish anything, but VTOL gives me most of the important bits of realism without requiring the time investment that DCS does. If DCS is like iRacing then VTOL VR is like Forza Motorsport.
@@GuyFromJupiter VTOL VR is such a simple system, though it still has it's title as a flight simulator, I'd say it's more arcady but it really just depends on if you're used to the game or not. DCS though for me is not about the learning process, for me its about the actual cost, I'm only living through free trials right now :cri:
@@ryz_vik : I love VTOL VR. Physics and everything feels great. However, owning good a good hotas from Virpil, I can't really say the virtual stick is a good replacement. Too imprecise. At least you can use rudder pedals ;) Edit: Ahh. I just saw that its possible to get hotas support through a mod. Nice.
@@GuyFromJupiter I think the VTOL physics engine is also not as advanced, so you can’t do batshit crazy maneuvers with the thrust vectoring mod. But the game itself is still very fun, but no multiplayer yet.
Escape from Tarkov is the only other game that gets me feeling like how combat in DCS does. You know at the end of the day it's just a game and you're standing up from your desk, but god damn can it be immersive.
It would be cool if, after ejecting, DCS could go into a survival style FPS like Tarkov. You have to evade enemy forces, survive in the wilderness, and make your way to an extraction point.
I experienced the most profound moment I've ever had in gaming when I snuck up on a SAM in a Gazelle last week. I'm not sure anything will ever top the rush I felt when I killed the thing that wanted to kill me.
@@Daimo83 DCS in general is great, but the issue with Gazelle is that it's a 3rd party add-on, a not-so-well done helicopter. I've bought it and personally don't like it - it feels too simplified from a physics/handling standpoint. I prefer flying the Huey - but I've bought all the helis.
It's even exhilarating as a RIO in the backseat. Making sure you can locate and call out missile launches for the pilot and making sure the radar is set up for the best results in a dogfight is a ton of work and really satisfying once you get good at it.
One difference between a game and a simulation is that in a game if you make no mistakes you will survive. In a simulation even if you make no mistakes you can die/lose.
I was playing the flanker not too long ago. I’m not a very experienced pilot, keep that in mind. I’m going through the mountains, and awacs calls out 2 dudes right in front of me. One comes over the mountain’s peak, and I got him with an r-73, but he was just an AI. Then, I saw another f-16 coming around the mountain, and got him with that other heat seeker…. What’s it called? Those moments are what do it for me.
this is what makes dcs a beautiful game, everyone has their own story that blew their minds as it was happening. its a drug like no other, people talk dcs moments like gambling addicts talk about big wins
DCS is one of the games where it gives you both relaxation and rush, both calming noises and suddenly out of nowhere your plane shouts at you, a game full of peace and action. Its one of those games that has meaning, that lets you do anything, that lets you relax, shoot down other planes, and so much more. Its a peice of art.
I lately flew a 1 hour mission deep into syria at treetops, and then got shot down by a manpad... no warning. nothing. An other day I flew an Fw190 Anton over a few 100km to another airport. Landed it. perfect. And once I joined an event with many other players, and the job was to nightattack a facility with a harrier and AA refueling, after the hornets paved the way with CAP and HARMS. My GF wondered what that was all about... but to me all these scenarios were just bliss.
That last moment move that you made before the missile hit was well done as you had little to no options and you reacted to it that quick that you almost dodge it with instinct and reflects alone. Even tho the missile did hit you, you took it in a not an critical way into your cockpit and away from your center mass as possible.
I'm a RIO, and its just as insane feeling to have your pilot do some cool shit while your shit feels all broken in a dogfight, you want to help and all you can do is deploy countermeasures and shout words of encouragement to your pilot, maybe the pilot wants to deploy an AIM-7 in a dogfight, risky move, but the only thing you can do is enter into MRL mode and try to match target azimuth and elevation, read the DDD display and maybe spot him and lock-on, this entire time feeling like if you had just gotten lock on them while you were still 20 miles off, then maybe you could have killed all of them with AIM-54s, you wouldn't even have been in this life or death situation if only you were better at your one and only job. It's as good as the pilot's seat when it comes to adrenaline, that's for sure
Hello. I dislike pinning my own comments, but after receiving a lot of hate daily for the last several months, I'd like to address some things. I don't blame those who do not care. For the first seven months, this video didn't get any attention. *I was not planning on the video getting this many views.* At the time of creation, the idea came to me at complete random. And after several months of a writers block, I had nothing left to lose by slapping together a cut, a script, some music, and posting it. "Not like anyone will care, right?" was the motto, here. Not once did I create this thinking "aw yea this is the best thing I'm gonna ever create and people are gonna love it." Trust me, I've poured more than enough time into content creation to know how this works. To explore ones own passions and try new things is how you expand your skill set, and that's exactly what I was doing here. Far far from perfect or good imho, but if you enjoy it I'm happy I can supply that for you. I had never once done anything like this at the time, so everything here is completely over the top, very dramatic, and not fleshed out. At all. I'm not saying DCS is my life blood, I'm saying it's pretty fun in a very dramatic way. Yes, that's an opinion. Yes you're allowed to disagree. Plenty of people do. If you came to the comments in hopes to advise me how the video is bad, *_I am well aware, thanks._* Hit the dislike, that's why it's there. I'm not going to take a dislike personally. I am going to take several comments a day telling me, without construct, that I am bad as a human being, a little bit personally. I say it in all my descriptions, *_I read every single comment._* So reading these specifically every single day gets depressing. In hopes to clear a little bit of that up, I have provided what context is needed here. So please, if you desire to write a one word hate comment, spare me and your keyboard. I couldn't care less about the YT algorithm taking less interest by telling people to stop commenting these. I do not create videos for fame. If you came here to describe my personal life in a harsh tone based on 2 dramatic minutes of DCS flying, have a lovely day, and don't. Sorry for the essay. Thanks. *_Edit 2/3/2023_* A ton of this stuff has subsided, so thank you to all those that have came, listened, and read. I duly appreciate it. As such, I will be unpinning this comment and returning the top comments to their respected chosen places. Cheers, RV
I was enjoying this vid when you posted this. Its disappointing to hear but your honesty is a mark of your reslience. Keep up the good work. There's a reason you have as many views and subs as you do.
hey dude, This is the exact reason I deleted my account with 12k followers. Couldnt bare the hate myself. you hang in there, the video was not bad, I just really wanted to see what flying games there are. Like, im a rookie in this. I like aviation in general. But I could never afford a VR set. eitherway, I know the "rejection" feeling you can get of comments. And one might say "who cares, you dont know the person" yes, but some are very personal, and speaking for myself I have like Autism and ADHD, which makes such hate even worse. Eitherway, take care bro, life was never gonna be easy, yet you stand strong. big hug from the netherlands, take care. :)
People who doesnt even play dcs will not care even if you made a couple of mistakes while playing the game, its always the message and what they leave with that always matter
Don't be let down by haters man, they just have nothing going on in their life and their only way to get some 'fun'' is for them to act out their negativity on others
Find it weird people hate this. I think it’s pretty well made… is it a crazy high quality video. Not at all… but god damn it manages to perfectly capture the intensity you felt in that moment. Genuinely had a role in convincing me to throw all my paycheck into getting into DCS.
DCS literally is the only game that can scare the heck out of me when I hear Jester call out a missile. I actually really enjoyed watching this! Thanks!
I liked that last comment. Funnily enough just a couple of days ago I was playing on one of the 4ya servers doing CAP in the Tomcat. Took out three bandits BVR in TWS with my phoenixes (I'd gone for four pohenix, two Sparrows and two sidewinder), then another group of four bandits popped up, grouped closely enough that a sparrow shot would leave me dangerously vulnerable. But I was the only person up in their way and retreating would leave a pair of warthogs who'd probably been flying half an hour to get to the AO sitting ducks. I suck at bfm, doubly so in the Tomcat where I end up either spinning or snapping my wings. But I could buy the 'hogs a few minutes as a distraction so I dove on in anyway. No cover, just a flat desert. Survived far longer than I had any right to somehow and even took an Su-33 down with me. I really hate throwing planes away, so it was a real conscious decision that I'm not coming back but I'll make as good a distraction as possible.
I do wish that MiG-23MLA would have been done by Heatblur or Leatherneck/M3 to get it properly done, but now it is about Razbam from running it. Yet, can't wait to get in it, and beat those F-14 pilots in proper dog fight and BVR.
If you're breaking off your wings or going into spins easily, you're over-controlling the aircraft. The Cat is a bit temperamental with hard control inputs, especially at high speeds or transitioning from them. Try to focus on using less stick at first or easing into a maneuver. I started to get a fairly manageable aircraft when I started treating it like a lady. Once you reprogram yourself for that, you'll need to learn the ways it likes to chase. As designed, it likes a lag pursuit, keeping the target you're chasing just above the canopy spar. This keeps the speed up and gives you just enough to pull a hard nose-on when they get frustrated and make a stupid move.
Got the same feeling the first time I got into my ka-50. Recently started playing again, and had a few emotional experiences both in Elite Dangerous and il2 GB the last few days. Agreed with the emotion part.
I remember when I first played WT sim with my new VR headset some years ago I basically shit myself when I got reamed by an R3S. It is such a thrilling experience, the absolute closest I'll ever be to being a fighter pilot. I have never actually played DCS, but I guess there's never any better time to start
The tunnel flight at the end of Ace Combat 5 was the most stressful video game experience I ever had. My heart was beating very fast, and kept loosing my grip of the controller because of my sweaty hands. And when the mission ended, I had to took a break because of the adrenaline rush that made my entire body shake.
I remember that i have played almost the entire game with the F104 Starfighter, and that really became a problem for me in that mission. After many fails i finally got that mission. Jets like the F14 are even worse. I think the F22 Raptor is the way to go.
Pff back in my daay kids (IL2-Sturmovik, mid 2000s;)), you could look your enemy in the eyes, yell profanities at them and throw many interesting hand gestures at them. None of this beeping, beyond visual range nonsense you kids do these days! :P
Wow your flying skills are insane, I only just started with DCS. First sitting i learned how to cold start, set navs and radio, do safety checks, taxi to runway and take off all by myself, trying to master my landings better, I can do it just it’s really unstable, I did this in my beloved F16 Viper, my only Fighter Jet I will use as it’s my dream Jet that I love. I am only using keyboard and mouse and though a lot of others saying it’s impossible to do so with keyboard and mouse but I managed. Getting a Thrustmaster setup soon. But wow I can’t wait to get somewhat close to your flying skills. Keep up the amazing work my friend that’s incredible.
@@triplemurray Some pilots from Coalition forces during desert storm in 1991. I dont know exactly where I heard (Discoverу, National Geographics, or on internet). Its some kind of psychology thing. Missiles need much more time to get target, and pilot can do many things to avoid them ( maneuvering, ECM, flaers&chaffs). But if you are low and in range of some 20mm, 30mm or up to 40mm (like bofors) there is no warning and you hope that there are not so good crew on the ground.
I'm a civil pilot myself, and I tried to fly on DCS with little to no success. Maybe the fighter jets are much more complex than the GA planes I fly, and I'm not ready for them; or maybe I need a proper HOTAS setup. But I'm gonna keep trying. I'll eventually get it.
I use mouse and keyboard, and believe me you do not want to fight me in DCS, most dont believe me when I tell them, the only thing that makes me wish I used a hotas is when I have mismatched ordnance on the wings and need to fly straight for a long time, like bombing runs.
Especially with the F14 module, the sounds of the throttling and the beeps and just EVERYTHING is so immersive even without VR like how I am playing it. I have an old Logitech Wingman joystick and that's it. I don't play any other games anymore, getting gud at this game is now the only thing that does it for me. The other planes are cool like I also have the F16 but it doesn't feel the same as the F14 with jester or (I haven't experienced this yet) a human RIO. The jet just feels alive.
You're playing the F-14 module with just a Logitech Wingman joystick? It sounds like you need to upgrade to something that isn't so old. There are in fact F-14 replica joysticks for sale now by manufacturers like VKB and Virpil, for instance.
DCS like Arma is so / can be so rewarding because the action is surrounded by a lot of setup and calmness. If you would spawn strait into the fight, dogfight a few enemies, get killed and restart it would not be as thrilling. But if you go into a fight and you know you already invested an hour of your time and if you die it will take an hour again, the stakes are higher.
Sadly that isn't what DCS is about. The online gameplay is mainly pvp where it is instant action, and that means get up, launch missiles and land for rearming, repeat. The DCS really required a penalty for being hit and shot down. Now it is 3 min repair and 2 min rearming. We need at least 240-480 min repair depending damage. And 60 min rearming for West planes and 30 min for red. Then each base have limited number of planes, like 15 fighters, 10 helicopters and so on. If you get shot down, your ED account is denied to fly for 12 hours or sooner if a helicopter pilot perform SAR by picking up your virtual pilot and return it successfully back to your original base. You might return from fly by successful landing, but you can jump to another plane after 10 min briefing and all. Then the fight would turn interesting as you don't want to return too soon, but never return as damaged and you really don't want to be shot down. As well every pilot would be assigned maximum amount of missiles for a day from the base warehouse. Like 4-6 per day. Every single sortie would matter, and every single missiles would be meaningful. But players don't want it, as they have no skills to tolerate losses and think that they should be free to risk planes and ammunition just for sake of fun. And that makes DCS so unrealistic.
@@paristo well the servers I play on are a little slower than what you described. But I also think for a casual night flying your proposal is not feasible, maybe for a longer match with a white list. I'm doing a lot of strike or Cas missions so the pvp aspect doesn't really affect me since I try to dodge those fights.
@@pocketpunch9920 It should be opt-out feature, so those who want easier time to fly, can enable current mode. But default should be fearful experience in multiplayer.
Greatest video ever made. It represents DCS perfectly and the script is beautiful, i have been re-watching it probably too many times, perfect music and word choice, amazing video!!
For some, its the adrenaline of dog fight with odds that are not in your favor. For others, its the thrill of dropping troops into a hot LZ while taking small arms and avoiding Manpads. Nothing comes close to this game. The best is yet to come!
For me, it's the thrill of keeping low and out of radar for a half hour, then popping up and laying hate on enemy AA and armor with my A-10 so our helicopters can get in. I fly with a diverse group lol
You catching heat for this video? Continues to show the world is messed up. I certainly felt the adrenaline and excitement! Simple as that. Tearing people down is easy! Continue doing what makes you happy! Your video was appreciated by me.
VR makes all the difference for me. I like to fly the A10 in DCS. The situational awareness is amazing. You just don't get the sense of scale, distance and direction outside of VR. In VR, you are very aware of those SAMs just over there on that hill...
Feel the same when playing IL-2. Obviously the combat isn't quite as fast paced but when youve got a fuel leak and are being chased by two fighters, the victory is being able to parachute over friendly lines
TH-cam algorithm says hi. Love moments like this. My own personal one was sneaking through a net of Sa-2s, Sa-3s and Sa-8s, 600kts, less than 100ft all the way- and the first thing the SAM sites knew of me being there, was when I gave them some 1000lb care packages and a strafing run with the 20mm. Not even a blip on the RWR until it was too late for them to react.
This crap looks like fun! Unfortunately, College does not allow me to play. I tried it with the SU-25 and I could see myself enjoying it but the learning curve is too steep and I do not have the time to spare to learn all of the systems of the SU-25, the closest thing I have done is WW2 planes in WT on default controls. Hopefully when Summer comes around or if I can better manage my work, I can get into this game. Cool video.
If you want to get into it deeper the logical first step is the FC3 pack. If you want to get a high definition plane, i can reccomend the F-5. Old plane, no BVR capability whatsoever, modern jets will eat it alive. But it is so much fun to fly, not that complex and easy to learn, and compared with the Su-25 in air to air it is god, very nimble lightweight plane and fast enough if you have time to accalerate (mach 1.6 up high). You can still defeat any modern jet if you manage to ambush. No autopilot, the radar sucks, underpowered, two missiles and two cannons, only very little countermeasures - all in all its all about that pilot shit, no computers to take your hand :)
Nice, what got you at the end? I have learned that staying out of afterburner when dropping flares is actually modeled in the game and increases their effectiveness. I also have learned over time that AI don’t seem to use radar guided missiles when they are within Fox-2 range (at least, when they haven’t run out, I think). I know I’m sort of cheating, but it generally means that I only have to drop flares and there’s no need to try notching when there’s a bandit in close. What that means is I tend to be more aggressive about turning into bandits that are close and firing at them. Another cheap trick is that all the Russian missiles can be decoyed easily (make sure your ECM is off, because they do have HOJ capabilities) when in a notch (Fox-1) and outside of AB (Fox-2). Again it’s kind of cheap, but I play to get the opponents to run out of missiles and also save my own to get shots off at them once we close in. The objective is to survive and take away their advantage before a merge, so that I still have room to maneuver. If everything goes well (odds aren’t great, but 65-70% of the time), I can splash the first with a missile like you did and then kill the second in a merge-usually with guns. I often do this on MP vs AI servers and have been fortunate enough to get up to a 4 v 1 in a Tomcat. The circumstances matter, where the more staggered from altitude, distance, and bearing the enemies are, the greater the probability of killing them all. Against players, these strategies don’t work. People adapt and use all sorts of non-standard tactics, but we (self included) are all super prone to wasting missiles on sub-par shots or, conversely, overcommitting when we can just evade and come back. Anyway, I hope someone finds this to be helpful.
Lots of great advice, but let me clarify some things: 1. With evading Fox 2s, the best chance you got is by minimizing your own heat signature and dropping flares, while being *Fast*. Getting out of burner and into idle power minimizes the hottest thing's heat signature's on your aircraft: your engines. It was a while back, but if I remember correctly, an R73 got me in the end because I was slow, but I was in min and dropping flares. *It does not always work, and sometimes fox 2s will just go for you no matter what.* 2. In BVR and Dogfights, there is no such thing as "being cheap" or "cheating", there are those that are clever and adaptive, and those who are targets. 3. Make sure your ECM is *_ON_* against fox 1s, or any type of radar guided things. HOJ capabilities exist, but all HOJ does is display the direction the Jamming is coming from. Jamming allows an aircraft to conceal its range from the HOJ radar, which is better because you want to give your enemy _less_ information about where you are, not more. They will have no ranging information, which means they wont know for certain when to take a shot. At about 25-40 miles, the radar will burn through the jam, depending on the radar and target, at which point all ranging information will be displayed. 4. Against Russian designs like the flankers in the video, the objective should *not be to survive until a merge.* The reason is because that will cost a ton of fuel and time. And on a mission where your objective is to hit a ground target, youre gonna want as much fuel as you can take. Normally an F14 would slap all three of these flankers at about 30 miles with the phoenix, but I was, for lack of better terms, jumped by what I thought was only one, and turned out to be a few more than 1, which drove me into the dirt and death. Ideally, against a flanker, NATO designs hold BvR capabilities above them with better data integration (datalink and radars) and better weapons systems overall (AMRMAAM, Phoenix, HMCS, AIM9Xs, etc). If possible, you should lock in TWS, fire a longer range fox 3 as sneakily as possible, and then kill him without having to merge at all. It costs the least fuel to do this, the least amount of missiles, and the least amount of time. Even if your first shot is evaded, you should be pressing for a second, because you want to keep him on the defensive, close the distance, and kill him, without actually merging. Merging with Russian designs, who will almost 100% of the time have HOB missiles, great airframes for dogfighting, and loads of fuel, is not a good idea, *especially if you are laden with external fuel tanks, bombs, or really any extra weight at all.* Now, its not a death sentence if you merge with a russian design, but it does usually mean your entire mission is gonna go out the window, especially if you have to jettison weight (ie any bombs or fuel tanks that you needed to complete your initial mission) to be competitive in a merge. Many NATO designs are excellent dogfighters as well, but dogfighting in itself is very detrimental to an overarching mission. Exciting, yes, fun, yes, but useful to a real mission? Not really. Even where your mission is CAP, and your job is to clear the skies, getting into a merge means youre going to be burning lots of fuel, which means you are going to have to land sooner, which means that whatever air space you are guarding will become vulnerable to enemy air sooner, and if youre escorting something, then you might have to leave them completely defenseless because you didnt have the fuel to stay up and escort them back home. Sorry if this is a ton, but DCS and Air combat are nothing if not complex, and there are a ton of important details that should be considered if you want to be as good as you can be.
It’s not just combat that gets your blood pumping. Land that Tomcat on a moving deck in a storm at night. Or try finding a tanker in thick clouds when you are flying on vapor. I know it’s just a simulation but that little taste of what it must be like is thrilling as I will ever experience
I used to get real head dizzy, especially flipping upside down, as gravity on my body would be going one way, but my eyes would be saying its the other. But after many hours in DCS alone with VR, you get used to it, I've just passed about 1000 hours in cockpits. I'm comfortable doing pretty much anything now. Its just a matter of training your head to ignore some of what your body is saying. I still get VR sick in games like Pavlov, where you use a thumbstick to move you character around, and just like any other FPS game, its an instantaneous movement, and your head lurches forward in the fake world, but your body stays still in the real one. That movement still gets me today.
@@Romeovictor the most daring things I have done so far in VR is air refueling and carrier traps. I really want to dogfight, but you know. It's good to know that it can be overcome.
You should get used to it really fast. As I started fpv flying, I leaned against the car for the first hours, but then I was able to stand freely quite fast. I immagine there isn't much difference between flying a drone through video Googles or playing a flight simulator in VR.
God this video made me tense just watching it. Unfortunately I never really followed through with my DCS/Flight sim set up. I think this video might just have been what I needed. Thanks for the motivation
The problem in VR is extreme neck twisting, compared to a little left-right swipe in TrackIR. Smeared picture in the corners outside the sweetspot does not help as well. For competitive dogfighting, VR is a disadvantage to TIR
It'll be down to every pilots personal opinion. Swipe in Track for sure, but now you've got to get used to moving your eyes to parts of the screen and moving you head in completely different directions, even if its small, its unnatural. To many like myself, too unnatural. Smeared picture yes, but since its VR, and not a flat screen, you dont see it, as your pupils are now focused on each individual object you look at. Peripheral vision isnt as focused as your converged vision. If you want to see the smeared object in focus, you simply look at it, and it becomes clear. Large neck movements for sure, but large neck movements even give pilots a better indication of where their plane is in relation to themselves when looking across the circle. Neck bent really far? Nose is not on. Neck bent barely? Nose is getting closer. I'd say VR gives a large advantage in terms of spotting, as the pixels are shoved right up to your eyes and there aren't as many to sort through to find something, its super easy to keep visual on a target even twenty miles away, and in the merge, its very obvious where the bad guy is, as he's the only moving pixel in relation to everything else, where as TrackIR all the pixels move on your screen in relation to you. There are ups and downs to both, and one could make arguments for each case. Personally I simply prefer VR.
I play better in VR personally. I don't notice a smeared picture at the edges but maybe my eyes are just so used to focusing on the center. Anyways for me the immersion in VR greatly outweighs any advantage Track IR offers, and I own both. (I use Track IR for certain things) To each their own I suppose.
This works until you figure out the AI's behavior and then it becomes pretty easy because they react the same every time. Having said that I actually enjoy that greatly, and PvP is always an option to keep things truly unpredictable
I'm an old school gamer. EVE Online beta player, Broodwar and SC2.. etc. I used to be quite hard core into gaming. But DCS World is the only game I play these days. The game has so much potential it's unreal. And what's in the game already is enough to keep you entertained for years.
DCS really does combine elements & challenges from almost every other game genre into one title, from action mastery to MGS-like sneaking to Grand Strategy-style tools & maps to fighting game button combos. The only genre not represented in some way is like... dating sim, probably. Maybe in "Rising Squall 2."
Battlefield v gives me the same feeling. I know it's not as accurate of a flying sim as DCS. If I play ground combat it's whatever... Kill, be killed. Flying is the only thing that gets my adrenaline pumping. Not even a tank fight gives me a rush. When I win a dogfight I have a rush that I cannot get from any other video game. Who knows.. maybe we were all pilots in our past lives.
You are correct, it _is_ a study level sim. However, as a person that publishes his voice and actions on the internet, where people are just the smartest, most understanding people ever (sarcasm), I might come across as pretentious and gate keeping if I were to say this. Just as well I would be scaring and discouraging other people from trying the game, which is not something I want to do. I do try to keep my audience in mind when I script a video, or talk at all.
@@Romeovictor I wasn't completely serious in the first place ;) I totally agree with your approach. I would even call it a game when making sure new friends know I'm a nerd. After all we do have fun with it, do stupid stuff and it's not nearly as serious as let's say a PMDG 737 in Flight Simulator with Vatsim.
@@jemand8462 It seems the joke flew right over my head lol. But then again Im only smart on the full moon of every month haha, love hearing these words from the community of DCS.
@@jemand8462 to be honest game has become quite the blanket term nowadays, sure it might be technically correct but it feels wrong thinking that in an archive of everything ever DCS and Candy crush should be filed in the same cabinet
Eh, real-life pilots have had to eject in worse conditions and survived, though I'm sure they wouldn't wish that experience on their worst enemy. Like that time when Captain Brian Udell had to eject while moving at supersonic speeds, for instance.
@@Mazryonh true, but there have been some observable two-seat demo crashes stuck in unrecoverable inverted conditions where guaranteed one of them could’ve pulled the handle-but unlike in this video, they would only have launched themselves into the ground. With the altitude in this video, even at about a 135 degree roll at ejection, they might’ve recovered in time, but the chute could tangle/tear and there just might not be enough time to decelerate before you schwack a tree. Lastly, if you SEE the SAM/missile forward-quarter (or even beam) and you haven’t started your defense boldface…skip straight to “eject.” Nobody wants to take a missile hit if they can help it.
@@Teqsinterrier That's one of the dangers of flying low near trees. If you have to eject, you might just be headed straight for one! Yeah, the player in this video could actually see the incoming missile coming head-on starting at 1:44 - I take it that since the missile was coming from the front, countermeasures would not have helped. What does "defense boldface" mean?
@@Mazryonh “boldface” means procedures that aviators have to learn to the point it’s instinct or muscle memory. There’s emergency procedure (EP) (like engine failure) boldface and defense boldface (reactive procedures based on the incoming threat).
In VR you are in the middle of an adrenaline pumped fight and suddenly your ears are blaster by the raw noise of the wind as you find yourself watching your burning aircraft 3rd person is enough to jolt you out of the seat. I've often found I've needed to "take a moment" after that.
I’ve been playing War Thunder a lot, still playing tho, but I could never ever feel that emotion when I do 1v2, got one then hostile plane got me, I would probably jump into another battle ASAP in WT, but in DCS, that’s another story man. Great vid
Back in the old days, it was your flight of Spitfires promtly turning into the light and heat as you were the last one to fight the ambushing Abeville kids.. and some time after, the CYAC and "When all you can shoot is a Kodachrome"
Very chilling and amazing use of the song. I was NOT expecting that at all, the build up threw me off, at first I was like "hmm? That kinda sounded like... Nah.. probably some in-game alarm or something" just wow. I didn't realize I was holding my breath till the video ended bro. Liked, shared and subscribed
VR in DCS is amazing. Nothing scarier than in a UH1 cresting a hill and seeing a ZSU and 2 Arty pieces on the other side start unloading on you.
I have both VR and IRheadtracker. Personally I like the headtracker but both are great for DCS. Infact some could say an IRtracker or VR is required for DCS considering much much you have to look around and constantly looking back down in your cockpit.
How do you click buttons? I find it difficult to use my Reverb in DCS because my X3D pro moving on my desk can be unreliable when I can't see it
It gets your blood pumping when it happens for real too.
Uh1 and ah1 are just naturally dope
i was wondering if this was vr, im assuming it was
"Sometimes, you don't win all your engagements. All you can do is take down as many as you can with you, even though in the end? You were never going to make it out alive..." Is truly a chilling quote, it sounds like the intro to the final chapter of a hero's story. I stop by this video every once in a blue moon because The Prowler's theme combined with DCS just hits so hard.
Wouldn't mind if he made a narrative based version based on his gameplay
Jester: "Missile! Break right!"
RV continues left. Gets a missile kill.
Jester: ...
Also jester: ejects
This is why I play DCS. That 1 hour of serenity flying into the AO, then 1 minute where all hell breaks loose. And then flying all the way back to homeplate at 30K feet, cruising, amazed that I actually survived, elated that I'm heading home, chatting with my wingman, admiring the moon and tense because I suck at landing at night hahaha. So much emotion, so much immersion.
Man I wish I could throw away entire 1 hours just flying around doing nothing.. I'll just skip to the one minute flight and have done 👍
My name is jafar, I come from afar.
Allah hu akbarrr
ATC: Turn Right 339, cleared ILS RWY 34
You: Right 339, unable ILS request Visual
ATC: Unable
You: ...
ATC: ...
Jester: PUNCHING OUT!!!
Now imagine, that you have not planned mission like in DCS, but you have dynamic campaign like in Falcon 4 Allied Force or Falcon BMS and your gaming experience will get doubled.
@@corporalblyat829 In a second hand car
You gotta just love the aggressiveness of flying low around mountains just above the tree top, especially in something as archaic as a tomcat that's got lots of canopy interference from support arms and the like.
GETTING DOWN LOW AND FLYIN SLOW BOYS
Tomcat canopies are great. Fly a mig 21 sometime.
I-16 is most modern cockpit design tovarisch. No canopy best canopy.
@@questioneverything4633 Oh ive flown that too
I love doing it in the MiG-29
I play vtol vr instead of dcs, but the feeling is mutual. There is nothing that can compare to the feeling when I watch a SAM cross my nose at only a couple dozen feet, only to see there are three more coming and weaving through all of them. Or the pure endorphins when I'm locked in a rolling scissors or in a toilet bowl with an equally matched opponent.
or like in the video hugging the hills as much as you can to get any advantage is so much fun
I love VTOL VR! I don't seem to have the patience to learn DCS well enough to accomplish anything, but VTOL gives me most of the important bits of realism without requiring the time investment that DCS does. If DCS is like iRacing then VTOL VR is like Forza Motorsport.
@@GuyFromJupiter VTOL VR is such a simple system, though it still has it's title as a flight simulator, I'd say it's more arcady but it really just depends on if you're used to the game or not.
DCS though for me is not about the learning process, for me its about the actual cost, I'm only living through free trials right now :cri:
@@ryz_vik : I love VTOL VR. Physics and everything feels great. However, owning good a good hotas from Virpil, I can't really say the virtual stick is a good replacement. Too imprecise. At least you can use rudder pedals ;) Edit: Ahh. I just saw that its possible to get hotas support through a mod. Nice.
@@GuyFromJupiter I think the VTOL physics engine is also not as advanced, so you can’t do batshit crazy maneuvers with the thrust vectoring mod. But the game itself is still very fun, but no multiplayer yet.
Escape from Tarkov is the only other game that gets me feeling like how combat in DCS does. You know at the end of the day it's just a game and you're standing up from your desk, but god damn can it be immersive.
It would be cool if, after ejecting, DCS could go into a survival style FPS like Tarkov. You have to evade enemy forces, survive in the wilderness, and make your way to an extraction point.
@@angryginger791 good idea for a new game
@armoured-bicycle For sure. Just day dreaming though. The PC's, servers, and connection bandwidth you'd need would be crazy. Maybe in like 50 years.
Immersive games are my must-have. I love them.
How about Squad?
I experienced the most profound moment I've ever had in gaming when I snuck up on a SAM in a Gazelle last week. I'm not sure anything will ever top the rush I felt when I killed the thing that wanted to kill me.
Gazelle has unrealistic physics.
@@floatingchimney It does. It's also a uniquely capable weapons platform. I guess it depends why you play DCS, really...
@@Daimo83 DCS in general is great, but the issue with Gazelle is that it's a 3rd party add-on, a not-so-well done helicopter.
I've bought it and personally don't like it - it feels too simplified from a physics/handling standpoint.
I prefer flying the Huey - but I've bought all the helis.
@@floatingchimney elitism
@@Larsx22 Elitism? Not sure what you're talking about.
I'm stating facts, I'm not trying to sound "holier than thou".
It's even exhilarating as a RIO in the backseat. Making sure you can locate and call out missile launches for the pilot and making sure the radar is set up for the best results in a dogfight is a ton of work and really satisfying once you get good at it.
Lookin for a pilot?
@@steel_yeet2989 I have a pilot haha. But if you ever need a rio I'd be down. Lately I've been off the game though waiting for the Apache.
One difference between a game and a simulation is that in a game if you make no mistakes you will survive.
In a simulation even if you make no mistakes you can die/lose.
Maybe for a singleplayer game but that doesn't really apply to a multiplayer game.
@@mazzars1772 Yes of course.
@@mazzars1772 Good point!
Cries in Operation Flashpoint.
Can you explain to my puny brain, how making no mistake can also make you lose?
I was playing the flanker not too long ago. I’m not a very experienced pilot, keep that in mind. I’m going through the mountains, and awacs calls out 2 dudes right in front of me. One comes over the mountain’s peak, and I got him with an r-73, but he was just an AI. Then, I saw another f-16 coming around the mountain, and got him with that other heat seeker…. What’s it called? Those moments are what do it for me.
The realization that your own quick thinking and skill allowed you to prevail. Its very rewarding, well done.
Heat seeking missles are called fox 2's, AIM-7s or missles that require you to keep lock are Fox 1's, and the radar guided missles are fox 3s
@@hihi-dc9hc i was referring to the type of missile, in this case, the r-27ET.
@@potatopower707 Ah okay, it's basically a R73 but longer range
this is what makes dcs a beautiful game, everyone has their own story that blew their minds as it was happening. its a drug like no other, people talk dcs moments like gambling addicts talk about big wins
Bro, at 1:08, the way the beat came in when he locked on to the other plane was so fucking cool
That is some very nice flying, well done!
Thank you
DCS is one of the games where it gives you both relaxation and rush, both calming noises and suddenly out of nowhere your plane shouts at you, a game full of peace and action.
Its one of those games that has meaning, that lets you do anything, that lets you relax, shoot down other planes, and so much more. Its a peice of art.
I lately flew a 1 hour mission deep into syria at treetops, and then got shot down by a manpad... no warning. nothing. An other day I flew an Fw190 Anton over a few 100km to another airport. Landed it. perfect. And once I joined an event with many other players, and the job was to nightattack a facility with a harrier and AA refueling, after the hornets paved the way with CAP and HARMS. My GF wondered what that was all about... but to me all these scenarios were just bliss.
its very realistic so it feels natural
IL-2 has the “DCS affect” on me. If you haven’t heard of it, it’s a WWII aerial combat simulator that’s only a bit behind DCS. Love that game so much.
"War is long periods of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror."
Nerd.
That last moment move that you made before the missile hit was well done as you had little to no options and you reacted to it that quick that you almost dodge it with instinct and reflects alone. Even tho the missile did hit you, you took it in a not an critical way into your cockpit and away from your center mass as possible.
Just like Mihaly Dumitru Margareta Corneliu Leopold Blanca Karol Aeon Ignatius Raphael Maria Niketas A. Shilage
Lol "A." LMFAO!!!!
I'm a RIO, and its just as insane feeling to have your pilot do some cool shit while your shit feels all broken in a dogfight, you want to help and all you can do is deploy countermeasures and shout words of encouragement to your pilot, maybe the pilot wants to deploy an AIM-7 in a dogfight, risky move, but the only thing you can do is enter into MRL mode and try to match target azimuth and elevation, read the DDD display and maybe spot him and lock-on, this entire time feeling like if you had just gotten lock on them while you were still 20 miles off, then maybe you could have killed all of them with AIM-54s, you wouldn't even have been in this life or death situation if only you were better at your one and only job. It's as good as the pilot's seat when it comes to adrenaline, that's for sure
Hello. I dislike pinning my own comments, but after receiving a lot of hate daily for the last several months, I'd like to address some things. I don't blame those who do not care.
For the first seven months, this video didn't get any attention. *I was not planning on the video getting this many views.*
At the time of creation, the idea came to me at complete random. And after several months of a writers block, I had nothing left to lose by slapping together a cut, a script, some music, and posting it.
"Not like anyone will care, right?" was the motto, here. Not once did I create this thinking "aw yea this is the best thing I'm gonna ever create and people are gonna love it."
Trust me, I've poured more than enough time into content creation to know how this works. To explore ones own passions and try new things is how you expand your skill set, and that's exactly what I was doing here. Far far from perfect or good imho, but if you enjoy it I'm happy I can supply that for you.
I had never once done anything like this at the time, so everything here is completely over the top, very dramatic, and not fleshed out. At all. I'm not saying DCS is my life blood, I'm saying it's pretty fun in a very dramatic way. Yes, that's an opinion. Yes you're allowed to disagree. Plenty of people do.
If you came to the comments in hopes to advise me how the video is bad,
*_I am well aware, thanks._*
Hit the dislike, that's why it's there. I'm not going to take a dislike personally. I am going to take several comments a day telling me, without construct, that I am bad as a human being, a little bit personally.
I say it in all my descriptions, *_I read every single comment._*
So reading these specifically every single day gets depressing. In hopes to clear a little bit of that up, I have provided what context is needed here. So please, if you desire to write a one word hate comment, spare me and your keyboard.
I couldn't care less about the YT algorithm taking less interest by telling people to stop commenting these. I do not create videos for fame.
If you came here to describe my personal life in a harsh tone based on 2 dramatic minutes of DCS flying, have a lovely day, and don't.
Sorry for the essay.
Thanks.
*_Edit 2/3/2023_*
A ton of this stuff has subsided, so thank you to all those that have came, listened, and read. I duly appreciate it.
As such, I will be unpinning this comment and returning the top comments to their respected chosen places.
Cheers,
RV
I was enjoying this vid when you posted this. Its disappointing to hear but your honesty is a mark of your reslience. Keep up the good work. There's a reason you have as many views and subs as you do.
hey dude, This is the exact reason I deleted my account with 12k followers. Couldnt bare the hate myself. you hang in there, the video was not bad, I just really wanted to see what flying games there are. Like, im a rookie in this. I like aviation in general. But I could never afford a VR set. eitherway, I know the "rejection" feeling you can get of comments. And one might say "who cares, you dont know the person" yes, but some are very personal, and speaking for myself I have like Autism and ADHD, which makes such hate even worse. Eitherway, take care bro, life was never gonna be easy, yet you stand strong. big hug from the netherlands, take care. :)
People who doesnt even play dcs will not care even if you made a couple of mistakes while playing the game, its always the message and what they leave with that always matter
Don't be let down by haters man, they just have nothing going on in their life and their only way to get some 'fun'' is for them to act out their negativity on others
Find it weird people hate this. I think it’s pretty well made… is it a crazy high quality video. Not at all… but god damn it manages to perfectly capture the intensity you felt in that moment. Genuinely had a role in convincing me to throw all my paycheck into getting into DCS.
The music compiled with Jester, various beeping, the growling missile and the frantic dodging is amazing
Nice video. The gold standard of any game is when it triggers for even a little bit true flight or flight responses in your brain.
DCS literally is the only game that can scare the heck out of me when I hear Jester call out a missile.
I actually really enjoyed watching this! Thanks!
I liked that last comment. Funnily enough just a couple of days ago I was playing on one of the 4ya servers doing CAP in the Tomcat. Took out three bandits BVR in TWS with my phoenixes (I'd gone for four pohenix, two Sparrows and two sidewinder), then another group of four bandits popped up, grouped closely enough that a sparrow shot would leave me dangerously vulnerable. But I was the only person up in their way and retreating would leave a pair of warthogs who'd probably been flying half an hour to get to the AO sitting ducks.
I suck at bfm, doubly so in the Tomcat where I end up either spinning or snapping my wings. But I could buy the 'hogs a few minutes as a distraction so I dove on in anyway. No cover, just a flat desert. Survived far longer than I had any right to somehow and even took an Su-33 down with me. I really hate throwing planes away, so it was a real conscious decision that I'm not coming back but I'll make as good a distraction as possible.
Did you get to hit silk or were you both killed by the missiles?
I do wish that MiG-23MLA would have been done by Heatblur or Leatherneck/M3 to get it properly done, but now it is about Razbam from running it.
Yet, can't wait to get in it, and beat those F-14 pilots in proper dog fight and BVR.
If you're breaking off your wings or going into spins easily, you're over-controlling the aircraft. The Cat is a bit temperamental with hard control inputs, especially at high speeds or transitioning from them. Try to focus on using less stick at first or easing into a maneuver. I started to get a fairly manageable aircraft when I started treating it like a lady. Once you reprogram yourself for that, you'll need to learn the ways it likes to chase. As designed, it likes a lag pursuit, keeping the target you're chasing just above the canopy spar. This keeps the speed up and gives you just enough to pull a hard nose-on when they get frustrated and make a stupid move.
Surprised Jester didn't bail at the first missile shot.
Got the same feeling the first time I got into my ka-50. Recently started playing again, and had a few emotional experiences both in Elite Dangerous and il2 GB the last few days. Agreed with the emotion part.
Elite dangerous active on pc?
@@low5738 : Yeah. Still active. No idea HOW active, but I mostly fly alone anyways. Basically none of my friends play anymore.
I wish I'd had a pc when I got it. I'm on ps4.
@@ChrisIhao are there full servers? Shii I loved that game on PS4 but quit because I had no friends to play w lol. I’d play w u on pc
I remember when I first played WT sim with my new VR headset some years ago I basically shit myself when I got reamed by an R3S. It is such a thrilling experience, the absolute closest I'll ever be to being a fighter pilot. I have never actually played DCS, but I guess there's never any better time to start
The rush of thrill on flight simulators never changes.
this was sick
The tunnel flight at the end of Ace Combat 5 was the most stressful video game experience I ever had. My heart was beating very fast, and kept loosing my grip of the controller because of my sweaty hands. And when the mission ended, I had to took a break because of the adrenaline rush that made my entire body shake.
I remember that i have played almost the entire game with the F104 Starfighter, and that really became a problem for me in that mission. After many fails i finally got that mission. Jets like the F14 are even worse. I think the F22 Raptor is the way to go.
Tarkov and DCS. Games that make my heart pump like if it was in those kind of situations.
I play the flanker a lot and let me tell you that was incredible dodging those archers they are scary good!
this makes me want to play the f-14 in DCS then i remember it costs 80 dollars.
The heart racing, blood pumping, the fear, sometimes the pure emotion. DCS is something else.
Pff back in my daay kids (IL2-Sturmovik, mid 2000s;)), you could look your enemy in the eyes, yell profanities at them and throw many interesting hand gestures at them.
None of this beeping, beyond visual range nonsense you kids do these days! :P
Yeah, I like to add insult to injury!
Where can I buy the old IL-2 games?
😂 even further back BoB on a 486mhz beast! Had me a sound blaster audio card. Next level…
I love my Sturmovik disks! Preciously stored and preserved. All of them. :)
Psh, try Rise of Flight, the only flight sim I've ever played that lets you (attempt to) shoot enemy pilots with your sidearm!
The scariest thing is you don't know how far the missile is and if you dodge it.
My setiments exactly.
Also, for many of us this is as close as we can get to living a dream.
This was the best ode to a game ever made by a youtuber. Holy shiiiiiit!
Gun kills are more satisfying than missile kills, change my mind
Oh no, a spitfire pilot!
I used to play "Lock On", predecessor of DCS...same emotion.
@armoured-bicycle oh man so lucky u are to still have that.
Unfortunately I lost mine.😭
I think the originators of the Lock on series are actually the same guys who made DCS
Wow your flying skills are insane, I only just started with DCS. First sitting i learned how to cold start, set navs and radio, do safety checks, taxi to runway and take off all by myself, trying to master my landings better, I can do it just it’s really unstable, I did this in my beloved F16 Viper, my only Fighter Jet I will use as it’s my dream Jet that I love. I am only using keyboard and mouse and though a lot of others saying it’s impossible to do so with keyboard and mouse but I managed. Getting a Thrustmaster setup soon. But wow I can’t wait to get somewhat close to your flying skills. Keep up the amazing work my friend that’s incredible.
They say that pilot would rather try to dodge dozen of missiles than go through heavy flak from triple a.
Who's "they"?
@@triplemurray Some pilots from Coalition forces during desert storm in 1991. I dont know exactly where I heard (Discoverу, National Geographics, or on internet). Its some kind of psychology thing. Missiles need much more time to get target, and pilot can do many things to avoid them ( maneuvering, ECM, flaers&chaffs). But if you are low and in range of some 20mm, 30mm or up to 40mm (like bofors) there is no warning and you hope that there are not so good crew on the ground.
Well, you just can hardly outmaneuver a well aimed 23mm round much less a full burst and chaffs or flares won't work either. :)
Just wanted to say that I think you portrayed the excitement this sim can give very well! Might need to get another VR headset again.
I'm a civil pilot myself, and I tried to fly on DCS with little to no success. Maybe the fighter jets are much more complex than the GA planes I fly, and I'm not ready for them; or maybe I need a proper HOTAS setup. But I'm gonna keep trying. I'll eventually get it.
I use mouse and keyboard, and believe me you do not want to fight me in DCS, most dont believe me when I tell them, the only thing that makes me wish I used a hotas is when I have mismatched ordnance on the wings and need to fly straight for a long time, like bombing runs.
@@antoniohagopian213 You use mouse and keyboard? But you don't use the keys bound for trim?
Rock on Brother, Rock on!
@@michaeltrivette1728 it's a pain to trim with keyboard, it's better to not use it
Especially with the F14 module, the sounds of the throttling and the beeps and just EVERYTHING is so immersive even without VR like how I am playing it. I have an old Logitech Wingman joystick and that's it. I don't play any other games anymore, getting gud at this game is now the only thing that does it for me. The other planes are cool like I also have the F16 but it doesn't feel the same as the F14 with jester or (I haven't experienced this yet) a human RIO. The jet just feels alive.
You're playing the F-14 module with just a Logitech Wingman joystick? It sounds like you need to upgrade to something that isn't so old. There are in fact F-14 replica joysticks for sale now by manufacturers like VKB and Virpil, for instance.
DCS like Arma is so / can be so rewarding because the action is surrounded by a lot of setup and calmness. If you would spawn strait into the fight, dogfight a few enemies, get killed and restart it would not be as thrilling. But if you go into a fight and you know you already invested an hour of your time and if you die it will take an hour again, the stakes are higher.
Sadly that isn't what DCS is about. The online gameplay is mainly pvp where it is instant action, and that means get up, launch missiles and land for rearming, repeat.
The DCS really required a penalty for being hit and shot down. Now it is 3 min repair and 2 min rearming.
We need at least 240-480 min repair depending damage. And 60 min rearming for West planes and 30 min for red.
Then each base have limited number of planes, like 15 fighters, 10 helicopters and so on. If you get shot down, your ED account is denied to fly for 12 hours or sooner if a helicopter pilot perform SAR by picking up your virtual pilot and return it successfully back to your original base.
You might return from fly by successful landing, but you can jump to another plane after 10 min briefing and all.
Then the fight would turn interesting as you don't want to return too soon, but never return as damaged and you really don't want to be shot down.
As well every pilot would be assigned maximum amount of missiles for a day from the base warehouse. Like 4-6 per day. Every single sortie would matter, and every single missiles would be meaningful.
But players don't want it, as they have no skills to tolerate losses and think that they should be free to risk planes and ammunition just for sake of fun. And that makes DCS so unrealistic.
@@paristo well the servers I play on are a little slower than what you described. But I also think for a casual night flying your proposal is not feasible, maybe for a longer match with a white list.
I'm doing a lot of strike or Cas missions so the pvp aspect doesn't really affect me since I try to dodge those fights.
@@paristo maybe for a hardcore server, you don't want to alienate the player base to an already niche game
@@pocketpunch9920 It should be opt-out feature, so those who want easier time to fly, can enable current mode. But default should be fearful experience in multiplayer.
@@paristo I won't disagree with that !
Would place a greater emphasis on survival vs spaamraams
Greatest video ever made. It represents DCS perfectly and the script is beautiful, i have been re-watching it probably too many times, perfect music and word choice, amazing video!!
Im addicted to a Game I cant even play. (because of GPU shortage) I dont think many games can achive that.
Dude, the way the music picks up when he locks on always gives me goosebumps
For some, its the adrenaline of dog fight with odds that are not in your favor. For others, its the thrill of dropping troops into a hot LZ while taking small arms and avoiding Manpads. Nothing comes close to this game. The best is yet to come!
For me, it's the thrill of keeping low and out of radar for a half hour, then popping up and laying hate on enemy AA and armor with my A-10 so our helicopters can get in. I fly with a diverse group lol
'Taking small arms' and 'avoiding manpads'... Jesus exactly what sort of game is this!? 😯
You catching heat for this video? Continues to show the world is messed up. I certainly felt the adrenaline and excitement! Simple as that. Tearing people down is easy! Continue doing what makes you happy! Your video was appreciated by me.
VR makes all the difference for me. I like to fly the A10 in DCS. The situational awareness is amazing. You just don't get the sense of scale, distance and direction outside of VR. In VR, you are very aware of those SAMs just over there on that hill...
Feel the same when playing IL-2. Obviously the combat isn't quite as fast paced but when youve got a fuel leak and are being chased by two fighters, the victory is being able to parachute over friendly lines
Why do people keep comparing War Thunder to DCS they are completely different
TH-cam algorithm says hi.
Love moments like this. My own personal one was sneaking through a net of Sa-2s, Sa-3s and Sa-8s, 600kts, less than 100ft all the way- and the first thing the SAM sites knew of me being there, was when I gave them some 1000lb care packages and a strafing run with the 20mm. Not even a blip on the RWR until it was too late for them to react.
Its the reason why I wake up in the morning now
I just want to have DCS with VR
Because this looked awesome to do
This crap looks like fun! Unfortunately, College does not allow me to play. I tried it with the SU-25 and I could see myself enjoying it but the learning curve is too steep and I do not have the time to spare to learn all of the systems of the SU-25, the closest thing I have done is WW2 planes in WT on default controls. Hopefully when Summer comes around or if I can better manage my work, I can get into this game. Cool video.
If you want to get into it deeper the logical first step is the FC3 pack. If you want to get a high definition plane, i can reccomend the F-5. Old plane, no BVR capability whatsoever, modern jets will eat it alive. But it is so much fun to fly, not that complex and easy to learn, and compared with the Su-25 in air to air it is god, very nimble lightweight plane and fast enough if you have time to accalerate (mach 1.6 up high). You can still defeat any modern jet if you manage to ambush. No autopilot, the radar sucks, underpowered, two missiles and two cannons, only very little countermeasures - all in all its all about that pilot shit, no computers to take your hand :)
Sounds like the RIO is so bored he's playing his handheld Tetris all the time.
Nice, what got you at the end? I have learned that staying out of afterburner when dropping flares is actually modeled in the game and increases their effectiveness. I also have learned over time that AI don’t seem to use radar guided missiles when they are within Fox-2 range (at least, when they haven’t run out, I think).
I know I’m sort of cheating, but it generally means that I only have to drop flares and there’s no need to try notching when there’s a bandit in close. What that means is I tend to be more aggressive about turning into bandits that are close and firing at them.
Another cheap trick is that all the Russian missiles can be decoyed easily (make sure your ECM is off, because they do have HOJ capabilities) when in a notch (Fox-1) and outside of AB (Fox-2). Again it’s kind of cheap, but I play to get the opponents to run out of missiles and also save my own to get shots off at them once we close in. The objective is to survive and take away their advantage before a merge, so that I still have room to maneuver. If everything goes well (odds aren’t great, but 65-70% of the time), I can splash the first with a missile like you did and then kill the second in a merge-usually with guns.
I often do this on MP vs AI servers and have been fortunate enough to get up to a 4 v 1 in a Tomcat. The circumstances matter, where the more staggered from altitude, distance, and bearing the enemies are, the greater the probability of killing them all.
Against players, these strategies don’t work. People adapt and use all sorts of non-standard tactics, but we (self included) are all super prone to wasting missiles on sub-par shots or, conversely, overcommitting when we can just evade and come back.
Anyway, I hope someone finds this to be helpful.
Lots of great advice, but let me clarify some things:
1. With evading Fox 2s, the best chance you got is by minimizing your own heat signature and dropping flares, while being *Fast*. Getting out of burner and into idle power minimizes the hottest thing's heat signature's on your aircraft: your engines. It was a while back, but if I remember correctly, an R73 got me in the end because I was slow, but I was in min and dropping flares. *It does not always work, and sometimes fox 2s will just go for you no matter what.*
2. In BVR and Dogfights, there is no such thing as "being cheap" or "cheating", there are those that are clever and adaptive, and those who are targets.
3. Make sure your ECM is *_ON_* against fox 1s, or any type of radar guided things. HOJ capabilities exist, but all HOJ does is display the direction the Jamming is coming from. Jamming allows an aircraft to conceal its range from the HOJ radar, which is better because you want to give your enemy _less_ information about where you are, not more. They will have no ranging information, which means they wont know for certain when to take a shot. At about 25-40 miles, the radar will burn through the jam, depending on the radar and target, at which point all ranging information will be displayed.
4. Against Russian designs like the flankers in the video, the objective should *not be to survive until a merge.* The reason is because that will cost a ton of fuel and time. And on a mission where your objective is to hit a ground target, youre gonna want as much fuel as you can take. Normally an F14 would slap all three of these flankers at about 30 miles with the phoenix, but I was, for lack of better terms, jumped by what I thought was only one, and turned out to be a few more than 1, which drove me into the dirt and death.
Ideally, against a flanker, NATO designs hold BvR capabilities above them with better data integration (datalink and radars) and better weapons systems overall (AMRMAAM, Phoenix, HMCS, AIM9Xs, etc). If possible, you should lock in TWS, fire a longer range fox 3 as sneakily as possible, and then kill him without having to merge at all. It costs the least fuel to do this, the least amount of missiles, and the least amount of time. Even if your first shot is evaded, you should be pressing for a second, because you want to keep him on the defensive, close the distance, and kill him, without actually merging.
Merging with Russian designs, who will almost 100% of the time have HOB missiles, great airframes for dogfighting, and loads of fuel, is not a good idea, *especially if you are laden with external fuel tanks, bombs, or really any extra weight at all.*
Now, its not a death sentence if you merge with a russian design, but it does usually mean your entire mission is gonna go out the window, especially if you have to jettison weight (ie any bombs or fuel tanks that you needed to complete your initial mission) to be competitive in a merge. Many NATO designs are excellent dogfighters as well, but dogfighting in itself is very detrimental to an overarching mission. Exciting, yes, fun, yes, but useful to a real mission? Not really. Even where your mission is CAP, and your job is to clear the skies, getting into a merge means youre going to be burning lots of fuel, which means you are going to have to land sooner, which means that whatever air space you are guarding will become vulnerable to enemy air sooner, and if youre escorting something, then you might have to leave them completely defenseless because you didnt have the fuel to stay up and escort them back home.
Sorry if this is a ton, but DCS and Air combat are nothing if not complex, and there are a ton of important details that should be considered if you want to be as good as you can be.
that was a great one to watch i was rooting for you the hole way
Awesome FLYING!
"It doesn't matter if you die at the end, what matters is how many you take with you" man that's deep
I remember how I played in Flanker 2.0 and after Lock On many days spend in fly
"My stomach hurts from watching this guy fly!" -Reggie (1986)
What VR are you using? it is really cool.
In this video I was using a Rift S, but since then I've switched to a valve index.
It’s not just combat that gets your blood pumping. Land that Tomcat on a moving deck in a storm at night. Or try finding a tanker in thick clouds when you are flying on vapor. I know it’s just a simulation but that little taste of what it must be like is thrilling as I will ever experience
What I would like to know is how you deal with VR sickness. I'd be sick as a dog after such maneuvers.
I used to get real head dizzy, especially flipping upside down, as gravity on my body would be going one way, but my eyes would be saying its the other.
But after many hours in DCS alone with VR, you get used to it, I've just passed about 1000 hours in cockpits. I'm comfortable doing pretty much anything now.
Its just a matter of training your head to ignore some of what your body is saying.
I still get VR sick in games like Pavlov, where you use a thumbstick to move you character around, and just like any other FPS game, its an instantaneous movement, and your head lurches forward in the fake world, but your body stays still in the real one. That movement still gets me today.
@@Romeovictor the most daring things I have done so far in VR is air refueling and carrier traps. I really want to dogfight, but you know. It's good to know that it can be overcome.
@@antonbatura8385 vr sickness is the milsim equivalent of g training, luckly everyone can overcome it unlike g-forces ( disabilities aside)
You should get used to it really fast. As I started fpv flying, I leaned against the car for the first hours, but then I was able to stand freely quite fast.
I immagine there isn't much difference between flying a drone through video Googles or playing a flight simulator in VR.
@@fabianrudzewski9027 do you have stereoscopic vision when you control a drone?
God this video made me tense just watching it. Unfortunately I never really followed through with my DCS/Flight sim set up. I think this video might just have been what I needed. Thanks for the motivation
The problem in VR is extreme neck twisting, compared to a little left-right swipe in TrackIR. Smeared picture in the corners outside the sweetspot does not help as well.
For competitive dogfighting, VR is a disadvantage to TIR
track ir is cheating...lol
It'll be down to every pilots personal opinion.
Swipe in Track for sure, but now you've got to get used to moving your eyes to parts of the screen and moving you head in completely different directions, even if its small, its unnatural. To many like myself, too unnatural.
Smeared picture yes, but since its VR, and not a flat screen, you dont see it, as your pupils are now focused on each individual object you look at. Peripheral vision isnt as focused as your converged vision. If you want to see the smeared object in focus, you simply look at it, and it becomes clear. Large neck movements for sure, but large neck movements even give pilots a better indication of where their plane is in relation to themselves when looking across the circle. Neck bent really far? Nose is not on. Neck bent barely? Nose is getting closer.
I'd say VR gives a large advantage in terms of spotting, as the pixels are shoved right up to your eyes and there aren't as many to sort through to find something, its super easy to keep visual on a target even twenty miles away, and in the merge, its very obvious where the bad guy is, as he's the only moving pixel in relation to everything else, where as TrackIR all the pixels move on your screen in relation to you.
There are ups and downs to both, and one could make arguments for each case. Personally I simply prefer VR.
UNLESS you're on a very expensive rig
oh yeah. i feel the same way. real pilots doesnt move their heads either. they have their trackirs very high sens
I play better in VR personally. I don't notice a smeared picture at the edges but maybe my eyes are just so used to focusing on the center. Anyways for me the immersion in VR greatly outweighs any advantage Track IR offers, and I own both. (I use Track IR for certain things) To each their own I suppose.
RIP Birds and squirrels on top of those trees he mowed.
This works until you figure out the AI's behavior and then it becomes pretty easy because they react the same every time. Having said that I actually enjoy that greatly, and PvP is always an option to keep things truly unpredictable
Now the ai has improved i think
I'm an old school gamer. EVE Online beta player, Broodwar and SC2.. etc. I used to be quite hard core into gaming. But DCS World is the only game I play these days. The game has so much potential it's unreal. And what's in the game already is enough to keep you entertained for years.
DCS really does combine elements & challenges from almost every other game genre into one title, from action mastery to MGS-like sneaking to Grand Strategy-style tools & maps to fighting game button combos.
The only genre not represented in some way is like... dating sim, probably. Maybe in "Rising Squall 2."
Pilot: *ejects
Current objective: *Survive*
what kind of ace combat boogaloo I'm seeing right now
yes
That is intense! Well done, you managed to capture the feel of danger of DCS nice video
Battlefield v gives me the same feeling. I know it's not as accurate of a flying sim as DCS. If I play ground combat it's whatever... Kill, be killed. Flying is the only thing that gets my adrenaline pumping. Not even a tank fight gives me a rush. When I win a dogfight I have a rush that I cannot get from any other video game. Who knows.. maybe we were all pilots in our past lives.
BFV isnt a flightsim at all xD but fair enough
Great flying, I enjoyed this video. I hope I'll be as good as this once I start
"In the end, you were never going to make it out alive." I make it out alive all the time.
I envy you, then.
No one makes it out of DCS every time, or most of the time.
I also fly with invulnerability on when learning a new aircraft
@@Blablablabla1ify You should never use the invulnerability option. That's not how you become as good as I am.
@@eldridgefelder3427 You’ve beaten me. I’ve missed how or why you’re making that statement about always making it out alive 😂
This new US Air Force Recruitment Ad is amazing.
You don'T "play" DCS and it's not a "Game".
You are correct, it _is_ a study level sim. However, as a person that publishes his voice and actions on the internet, where people are just the smartest, most understanding people ever (sarcasm), I might come across as pretentious and gate keeping if I were to say this. Just as well I would be scaring and discouraging other people from trying the game, which is not something I want to do. I do try to keep my audience in mind when I script a video, or talk at all.
@@Romeovictor I wasn't completely serious in the first place ;) I totally agree with your approach. I would even call it a game when making sure new friends know I'm a nerd. After all we do have fun with it, do stupid stuff and it's not nearly as serious as let's say a PMDG 737 in Flight Simulator with Vatsim.
@@jemand8462 It seems the joke flew right over my head lol. But then again Im only smart on the full moon of every month haha, love hearing these words from the community of DCS.
@@jemand8462 to be honest game has become quite the blanket term nowadays, sure it might be technically correct but it feels wrong thinking that in an archive of everything ever DCS and Candy crush should be filed in the same cabinet
@@npc6817 hahahaha agreed! I would call Candy Crush a mind degenerator and time waster though ;)
"In the end you were never going to make it out alive" that's a mf Horrorcore sample right there
r/im14andthisisdeep
You have me gripping on to every moment, felt like I was watching a movie. Awesome stuff!
Damn, I woulda had my mom bring me a double helping of hot pockets after that craziness!
Honestly wish they made ASMR of dogfights like this, its exhilarating hearing the alarms and the guy telling you to break right 😂
Try not to eject when inverted. Zoom to eject if possible, upright, pitch up, slow as possible.
Eh, real-life pilots have had to eject in worse conditions and survived, though I'm sure they wouldn't wish that experience on their worst enemy. Like that time when Captain Brian Udell had to eject while moving at supersonic speeds, for instance.
@@Mazryonh true, but there have been some observable two-seat demo crashes stuck in unrecoverable inverted conditions where guaranteed one of them could’ve pulled the handle-but unlike in this video, they would only have launched themselves into the ground. With the altitude in this video, even at about a 135 degree roll at ejection, they might’ve recovered in time, but the chute could tangle/tear and there just might not be enough time to decelerate before you schwack a tree.
Lastly, if you SEE the SAM/missile forward-quarter (or even beam) and you haven’t started your defense boldface…skip straight to “eject.” Nobody wants to take a missile hit if they can help it.
@@Teqsinterrier That's one of the dangers of flying low near trees. If you have to eject, you might just be headed straight for one!
Yeah, the player in this video could actually see the incoming missile coming head-on starting at 1:44 - I take it that since the missile was coming from the front, countermeasures would not have helped. What does "defense boldface" mean?
@@Mazryonh “boldface” means procedures that aviators have to learn to the point it’s instinct or muscle memory. There’s emergency procedure (EP) (like engine failure) boldface and defense boldface (reactive procedures based on the incoming threat).
You were flying that like Will Smith being chased by aliens bro.
the dcs vr in f14 is every aviation freak orgasm. runs amazing with my rtx3080 and 32gb ram
Legendary level video, holy shit man :D No wonder it does get emotions out of you :D
Your video gave me goosebumps good fight brother!
This video brings me so much joy. This is exactly why we play DCS! Much love
In VR you are in the middle of an adrenaline pumped fight and suddenly your ears are blaster by the raw noise of the wind as you find yourself watching your burning aircraft 3rd person is enough to jolt you out of the seat. I've often found I've needed to "take a moment" after that.
I’ve been playing War Thunder a lot, still playing tho, but I could never ever feel that emotion when I do 1v2, got one then hostile plane got me, I would probably jump into another battle ASAP in WT, but in DCS, that’s another story man. Great vid
Back in the old days, it was your flight of Spitfires promtly turning into the light and heat as you were the last one to fight the ambushing Abeville kids.. and some time after, the CYAC and "When all you can shoot is a Kodachrome"
*The commentary, I love it!*
"the trick is to remember that you are already dead. Then survival means nothing. Only your goal."
this was so intense that the pilot lost his hand
The sheer terror, realising that you are right in the middle of a killzone.
Go down swinging, it's all you can do.
In life you’re always on the hardest difficulty. Some people just don’t realize that.
Very chilling and amazing use of the song. I was NOT expecting that at all, the build up threw me off, at first I was like "hmm? That kinda sounded like... Nah.. probably some in-game alarm or something" just wow. I didn't realize I was holding my breath till the video ended bro. Liked, shared and subscribed
That fucking stick work was immaculate.