As a staunch quartz-only owner, I gotta say Citizen has the backs of all quartz-supporters with affordable, amazing looking timepieces and have to be my favorite watch company (tho some of their stuff look like Invictas can’t lie lol)
It is good to see Citizen starting to get some love on TH-cam, I have been frustrated for many years how many watch geeks show love for Seiko yet seem to write off Citizen, don't get me wrong I like Seiko and have a few but I also have a few Citizens, they make great Automatics, lovely Eco Drives, and their material quality and build standards are very high, and they are reliable, my titanium eco drives beater is over 25 years old and is still going stong albeit with some deterioration in power reserve, but hey after 25 years I can't complain.
I'm also a huge Citizen fan. And I own a lot of both. I will say that I wear my Eco-Drive watches MUCH more than any of my automatic watches!!! I've been wanting to try this one even though I'm not a dress watch guy, and much more a diver and field watch person. But this ticks a LOT of boxes for me and I'm going to try one!!!
@@TopTierTickerdidn't you do a video for this watch awhile back? I could've sworn it was you, if not it was that American guy living in Japan (can't think of his name, sorry) and I have wanted one of these ever since seeing that first video about it! But I'm not going to lie, i WISH it came in a solar Eco-Drive model. Don't get me wrong, I love and am still constantly amazed at the construction of an automatic or handwound watch, but I rarely use my multiple automatics anymore. My Citizen Promaster Diver Eco-Drive BN0150-28E (on my wrist RIGHT now with an orange FKM Fluororubber strap on it) is my most worn watch of ALL time. For the last 10-12 months or so, I've worn an automatic for MAYBE one month, while I had a solar Eco-Drive or a CasiOak GA-B2100 or GST-B300E-5A with Tough Solar and Bluetooth on the majority of the time. While I love a nice automatic, I'm just sick of fooling with them to be honest 😮😢
I absolutely love my 88L, the textured blue dial is stunning and it's a great all rounder for the money. The Tsuyosa range is a great addition to the affordable watch market
The watch is so clean, which I love. I would've gotten rid of the date. But my real gripe is is that the lugs doesn't support leather straps. But it's a great watch at a fantastic price. I do love bracelets because how easy they are to put on.
"Those Seiko 5 that will fall apart in a few years time" is a pretty asinine thing to say. Do your research and you'll find that the very simple 7S26 caliber was designed to run years without being serviced, in the tradition of the 61xx to 63xx movements.
I've owned 3 of those old school 5s. I know all about the 7s26. The movement itself is fine, a proper workhouse, albeit old fashioned. But it's the materials that will give. The mineral glass will have plenty of scratches, the hollow bracelets will stretch, and the 30m water resistance doesn't install much confidence. Nothing wrong with those Seiko 5s, they make an excellent dress piece. They just don't offer much longevity
This Citizen wipes the floor with the SNK393. If it's one or the other, it's the Citizen. But, both are cheap enough to enjoy both for what they are :)
The watch lovers love to see the watches in the review rather than the face of the reviewer. In all the reviews, you appear so frequently, almost in every seconds, that I feel it disturbing. You may please think about it. Thanks
I'm also a huge Citizen fan. And I own a lot of both. I will say that I wear my Eco-Drive watches MUCH more than any of my automatic watches!!! I've been wanting to try this one even though I'm not a dress watch guy, and much more a diver and field watch person. But this ticks a LOT of boxes for me and I'm going to try one!!!
These are nice looking watches, and I’m a fan of Citizen, but comparing this to a Rolex is just silly. It has a very basic movement, which is easily outclassed by Seiko movements, is let down badly by a lousy pressed clasp, and the water resistance is mediocre. It certainly has better QC than similarly priced Seiko watches, but calling the movement modern, when an NH35 will perform much more reliably.. nope. It’s very nice, but it’s not going to kill Rolex by any stretch of the imagination. And I don’t like Rolex.
The NH35 isn't inside the watches that reviewers consider 'Killers', it's the 7s26. So in comparison with that movement, yes the Citizen is much more modern. And it wasn't that long ago when Rolex used pressed clasps... I'm not trying to claim that this watch is better than a Rolex in any way, just an argument that the Tsuyosa is wayyyyy closer to Rolex than the old school 5.
@@TopTierTicker I’ll agree the old 7s26 movement is naff, but it’s been discontinued for 12 years, and I can pick up a Seiko 5 with one in for £70 new, so it’s a bit of an unfair comparison. The main problem is that every TH-cam review on earth calls damn near every watch a “Rolex killer”. Actually, closer to them would be San Martin who produce insanely good watches for the price. They are infinitely better value than any Rolex, which are stupidly overpriced and pretty average watches by comparison to similarly priced watches like Omega or Grand Seiko. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Citizen.. it’s a nice looking piece, but they could have included a milled clasp when they are asking £300. I know Rolex (and everyone else) were using pressed clasps until recently, but we aren’t in “until recently”. They need to be on par with what’s released now.
Thought I'd get in early for a change! I would say this is a bargain with really good specs, stylish and a good size. I like the cyclops, I need them these days as my eyes aren't what they used to be!! 😂 Another great video, cheers Kieron 👍
You can pick up the Tsuyosa for close to $300 from plenty of retailers. At that price, it's much better than the quartz PRX. The Auto PRX is better, but double the price. I made a video comparing the two, check it out. But short answer, no, I'd say get the Tsuyosa.
Influencers are silly calling the Seiko 5 a Rolex killer. But the Seiko 5 snx is kind of the unicorn of cheap, accessible, and decent quality automatic watches. The quality of the faces alone justifies that. The most serious criticism I'd give the snx77 has to do with the crappiness of the bracelet. Youre not going to get great WR at that price, and all automatic movements are dinosaurs anyway 😂
You say that, but I have statistics that show that the more edits, the longer on average people watch. It takes much longer to edit like this than a slower paced video, but that's what people watch for longer.
@@TopTierTickeryou must be right. Yet it also annoys people. It now caters to stupid ppl with short attention span. I won’t subscribe, but your channel, your choice. Best of luck.
The black is the most versitile for sure, it depends where it sits in your collection... If its a daily, go black. If its an occasional wear, get some colour
Non mechanical watch will beat the accuracy of quartz. You can compare the most expensive mechanical movement vs the most cheaper quartz movement and the quartz will always outperform the mechanical movement. But most people including myself like more mechanical movement than quartz because in my opinion is a more elegant engine, also is the og engine that makes watches work before quartz were a thing, you can make art with mechanical movement in the watch therefore mechanical movement watches will always be more expensive than quartz
I couldn't disagree more. Every watch is somewhat inspired by another. It's almost impossible nowadays not to atleast 'copy' one aspect of another design. A pagani is a clone with a different brand name, this citizen is a homage, in the true sense of the word.
I only see positive reviews on Citizen Tsuyosa on youtube. But this watch actually sucks. The crown is in an awkward position, and buried half-assed awkwardly, that it's difficult to pull it out.
The Citizen is a Japanese company. The Japanese are great imitators not innovators. Most electronic devices that you are familiar (VCR, DVD etc) were invented by caucasians. Even Citizen's eco drive solar watch was invented by an American in 1968. It was unsuccessful due to battery technology at the time. If you study the history invention the Japanese become less and less impressive. After all we dropped the atomic bomb on them not the reverse. Essentially all Japanese time pieces are derivative of Swiss engineering going back centuries. The first electronic watch was invented by Hamilton originally an American company manufactured in Lancaster Pennsylvania in the 1950s.
As a staunch quartz-only owner, I gotta say Citizen has the backs of all quartz-supporters with affordable, amazing looking timepieces and have to be my favorite watch company (tho some of their stuff look like Invictas can’t lie lol)
It is good to see Citizen starting to get some love on TH-cam, I have been frustrated for many years how many watch geeks show love for Seiko yet seem to write off Citizen, don't get me wrong I like Seiko and have a few but I also have a few Citizens, they make great Automatics, lovely Eco Drives, and their material quality and build standards are very high, and they are reliable, my titanium eco drives beater is over 25 years old and is still going stong albeit with some deterioration in power reserve, but hey after 25 years I can't complain.
I agree, they don't get enough coverage, but this is one hell of a watch!
I'm also a huge Citizen fan. And I own a lot of both. I will say that I wear my Eco-Drive watches MUCH more than any of my automatic watches!!!
I've been wanting to try this one even though I'm not a dress watch guy, and much more a diver and field watch person. But this ticks a LOT of boxes for me and I'm going to try one!!!
@@TopTierTickerdidn't you do a video for this watch awhile back? I could've sworn it was you, if not it was that American guy living in Japan (can't think of his name, sorry) and I have wanted one of these ever since seeing that first video about it!
But I'm not going to lie, i WISH it came in a solar Eco-Drive model. Don't get me wrong, I love and am still constantly amazed at the construction of an automatic or handwound watch, but I rarely use my multiple automatics anymore.
My Citizen Promaster Diver Eco-Drive BN0150-28E (on my wrist RIGHT now with an orange FKM Fluororubber strap on it) is my most worn watch of ALL time. For the last 10-12 months or so, I've worn an automatic for MAYBE one month, while I had a solar Eco-Drive or a CasiOak GA-B2100 or GST-B300E-5A with Tough Solar and Bluetooth on the majority of the time. While I love a nice automatic, I'm just sick of fooling with them to be honest 😮😢
I love my Tsuyosa 88L, the black is a great classic choice too. Thanks for the video x
Thanks mate, appreciate your viewership 🙏
I absolutely love my 88L, the textured blue dial is stunning and it's a great all rounder for the money. The Tsuyosa range is a great addition to the affordable watch market
I agree, that textured dial one is unbelievably good looking!
well, I have both the snxs79 and the tsuyosa in yellow. I don't find one better than the other. I just like them. Don't care about tags or tiers :)
Citizen dials are some of the best on the market too!!
They do, the fume and textured dials are also incredible!
The watch is so clean, which I love. I would've gotten rid of the date. But my real gripe is is that the lugs doesn't support leather straps. But it's a great watch at a fantastic price. I do love bracelets because how easy they are to put on.
"Those Seiko 5 that will fall apart in a few years time" is a pretty asinine thing to say. Do your research and you'll find that the very simple 7S26 caliber was designed to run years without being serviced, in the tradition of the 61xx to 63xx movements.
I've owned 3 of those old school 5s. I know all about the 7s26. The movement itself is fine, a proper workhouse, albeit old fashioned. But it's the materials that will give. The mineral glass will have plenty of scratches, the hollow bracelets will stretch, and the 30m water resistance doesn't install much confidence.
Nothing wrong with those Seiko 5s, they make an excellent dress piece. They just don't offer much longevity
I owned a Seiko 5 7S26 A, it’s still running today, it’s already 23 years old, how come you say it will fall apart within few years? Hahah lying kid
Agreed and bought one citizen tsuyosa Emerald green today. Lovely watch❤
Very nice, I hope you enjoy it my friend 🙏
@@TopTierTicker Thank you ! Brother. I like your videos and the way you simplify such deep knowledge in easy way.🌼🙏🏻
Seiko 5 are 100 bucks. That's 300
You are bang on by stating the Citizen is better than the Seiko 5.
Comparing this against the SNK393, as per the video you just released about 20 hours ago, which one would you go for?
This Citizen wipes the floor with the SNK393. If it's one or the other, it's the Citizen. But, both are cheap enough to enjoy both for what they are :)
Bruh, Tsuyosa is competitor against PRX, not Rolex.
The watch lovers love to see the watches in the review rather than the face of the reviewer. In all the reviews, you appear so frequently, almost in every seconds, that I feel it disturbing. You may please think about it. Thanks
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Great review and i agree its a very attractive design and a solid quality. Just if it was Eco 🤷
Oh,ive jusf watched an actual Citizen advert .
Go buy a Seiko 5 then, you'll be the one regretting it
I'm also a huge Citizen fan. And I own a lot of both. I will say that I wear my Eco-Drive watches MUCH more than any of my automatic watches!!!
I've been wanting to try this one even though I'm not a dress watch guy, and much more a diver and field watch person. But this ticks a LOT of boxes for me and I'm going to try one!!!
Love these. If they did it in quartz, or even better, eco-drive, I would be all over it.
These are nice looking watches, and I’m a fan of Citizen, but comparing this to a Rolex is just silly. It has a very basic movement, which is easily outclassed by Seiko movements, is let down badly by a lousy pressed clasp, and the water resistance is mediocre. It certainly has better QC than similarly priced Seiko watches, but calling the movement modern, when an NH35 will perform much more reliably.. nope. It’s very nice, but it’s not going to kill Rolex by any stretch of the imagination. And I don’t like Rolex.
The NH35 isn't inside the watches that reviewers consider 'Killers', it's the 7s26. So in comparison with that movement, yes the Citizen is much more modern. And it wasn't that long ago when Rolex used pressed clasps...
I'm not trying to claim that this watch is better than a Rolex in any way, just an argument that the Tsuyosa is wayyyyy closer to Rolex than the old school 5.
@@TopTierTicker I’ll agree the old 7s26 movement is naff, but it’s been discontinued for 12 years, and I can pick up a Seiko 5 with one in for £70 new, so it’s a bit of an unfair comparison. The main problem is that every TH-cam review on earth calls damn near every watch a “Rolex killer”. Actually, closer to them would be San Martin who produce insanely good watches for the price. They are infinitely better value than any Rolex, which are stupidly overpriced and pretty average watches by comparison to similarly priced watches like Omega or Grand Seiko. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Citizen.. it’s a nice looking piece, but they could have included a milled clasp when they are asking £300. I know Rolex (and everyone else) were using pressed clasps until recently, but we aren’t in “until recently”. They need to be on par with what’s released now.
Interestingly the black dial version is not available in Japan. Note that Citizen does not have the misalignment problems of Seiko.
Even in India
Thought I'd get in early for a change! I would say this is a bargain with really good specs, stylish and a good size. I like the cyclops, I need them these days as my eyes aren't what they used to be!! 😂 Another great video, cheers Kieron 👍
haha! my eyes are beginning to deteriorate too, think it's time for specsavers! Love this Tsuyosa, a miles better watch than the old school 5!
You can pick up the Tsuyosa for close to $300 from plenty of retailers. At that price, it's much better than the quartz PRX. The Auto PRX is better, but double the price. I made a video comparing the two, check it out.
But short answer, no, I'd say get the Tsuyosa.
This watch needs to be 2mm smaller.
Influencers are silly calling the Seiko 5 a Rolex killer. But the Seiko 5 snx is kind of the unicorn of cheap, accessible, and decent quality automatic watches. The quality of the faces alone justifies that.
The most serious criticism I'd give the snx77 has to do with the crappiness of the bracelet. Youre not going to get great WR at that price, and all automatic movements are dinosaurs anyway 😂
Next time try not to edit the thing so it changes what the viewer sees every 50 milliseconds. It sux. As far as the Citizen goes, I'll check it out.
You say that, but I have statistics that show that the more edits, the longer on average people watch.
It takes much longer to edit like this than a slower paced video, but that's what people watch for longer.
@@TopTierTickeryou must be right. Yet it also annoys people. It now caters to stupid ppl with short attention span. I won’t subscribe, but your channel, your choice. Best of luck.
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Bought one with yellow dial, great watch :)
Good choice, I'm eyeing up one of the textured dials 😜
Are you still happy with the black? it does look sleek, im tempted by the ice blue but think the novelty wears off quickly.
The black is the most versitile for sure, it depends where it sits in your collection... If its a daily, go black. If its an occasional wear, get some colour
I got the green dial and it’s a daily wear for me.
Black isn’t available in India what a shame.
In the left corner: Mark Wahlberg in a Rolex.
In the right corner: You in this Citizen
Ding ding, round one 🧔🏻♂️ 🥊
I'll stay on the outside and use my reach 🥊 albeit for around 35 seconds until I get tagged on the dome 😂
The Tsuyosa would be perfect if it was high accuracy quartz and 34-36mm.
Non mechanical watch will beat the accuracy of quartz. You can compare the most expensive mechanical movement vs the most cheaper quartz movement and the quartz will always outperform the mechanical movement.
But most people including myself like more mechanical movement than quartz because in my opinion is a more elegant engine, also is the og engine that makes watches work before quartz were a thing, you can make art with mechanical movement in the watch therefore mechanical movement watches will always be more expensive than quartz
In my eyes its perfect as is. Guess im lucky.
Absolutely spot on
Mine is the Sunburst Turquoise dial. Punches way above its price tag.
To hell with all the long waiting list!
I’m holding out for a 37mm 🙏
Fair enough! I do think that this watch works in 40mm, the way it sists on the wrist is great... Not like the PRX
I just bought 2 today
Could we put rubber strap to it??
You could cut one down to size, it might wear a bit weird though. I'm sure a factory in China will eventually make one purpose fit though
Great video !!!!
Nice one. Fine looking watch. Great honest review.
I agree
Thanks for watching my friend! appreciate the support!
Ooh, nearly... But that WR... 50m isn't trustworthy enough. I wouldn't risk it.
Fair enough! Should be good for everyday wear but, I understand the skepticism
It's not a dive watch. It's plenty.
I like it but it’s a little too big for me for this style of watch.
Trust me, I love to complain about oversized watches. This however is a great size
All the quick cuts are making me dizzy.
Nothing worse than a clickbait title like ‘blahblah killer’ No one in the market for a Rolex is going to by a Citizen instead.
Exactly
Is Rolex killed by now?
The only Rolex killer is Tudor
Rolex not only shows what time it is, but also how much you can do
Can you throw a fluted bezel on this bad boy? Why ? because I want to ..
A hammer is a less expensive alternative as well!!
I've heard the SNXS referred to as a poor man's Rolex but never a Rolex killer..
Search 'Rolex Killer' here on youtube...
It is too bjg, if this would be like 36-37mm it would be perfect
Seiko is so much better 🤙🏻
whether a style is copied from several sources or one, it is still a copy! Not in any way different than what Pagani is doing.
I couldn't disagree more. Every watch is somewhat inspired by another. It's almost impossible nowadays not to atleast 'copy' one aspect of another design.
A pagani is a clone with a different brand name, this citizen is a homage, in the true sense of the word.
I only see positive reviews on Citizen Tsuyosa on youtube. But this watch actually sucks. The crown is in an awkward position, and buried half-assed awkwardly, that it's difficult to pull it out.
The Citizen is a Japanese company. The Japanese are great imitators not innovators. Most electronic devices that you are familiar (VCR, DVD etc) were invented by caucasians. Even Citizen's eco drive solar watch was invented by an American in 1968. It was unsuccessful due to battery technology at the time. If you study the history invention the Japanese become less and less impressive. After all we dropped the atomic bomb on them not the reverse. Essentially all Japanese time pieces are derivative of Swiss engineering going back centuries. The first electronic watch was invented by Hamilton originally an American company manufactured in Lancaster Pennsylvania in the 1950s.
Great videos keep up the good work ,you are going to be very successful in the future 👍🏴🇺🇸👏🥂
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words and your support 🍻🙏🙏🙏🙏