9-Year Hustle to Achieve a Single GoalㅣNotion's Cofounders
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2024
- This is the co-founders' story of Notion, Akshay Kothari(COO) and Ivan Zhao(CEO), building Notion.
Notion is one of the most innovative productivity tools worldwide to make every human able to build their own software without coding.
Before co-founding Notion, Akshay built Pulse, which is RSS based news curation app, and Ivan was a designer from Canada just after college graduation.
00:34 Akshay's background
03:15 Notion's first failure
06:21 Notion's PMF story
12:05 Notion's culture and core values
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Notion is great but it is not as dumb. It has a learning curve but once you get it, it works great. But the greatest thing about notion is the software itself. It never hangs, even with adding complexity, it works great. It’s a 10/10 from software perspective.
Also the security exploits are great. It’s great getting weekly massive data breaches lol. It blows my mind how they’ve continually dodged this bad PR.
Edit for more context:
They’re a software company without end-to-end encryption in 2023… this has been a basic requirement of all software since the early 90s with the dawn of the internet. If your company is using notion for sensitive information, or anything really, you’re absolutely going to have a ransomware attack. All a hacker has to do is get access to notion and then they have everything from your notion accounts - everything. Your data isn’t hashed or encrypted on their servers. It’s an open book.
How else are they going to turn a profit without selling absolutely everything about you to ad tech, insurance companies for off-the-books pro-rating, etc..
Notion staff have gone as far as to directly address this complaint and say they have no plans to add end-to-end encryption because it would “slow down the search feature”. Complete BS. Similar apps like Obsidian offer end-to-end encryption for a subscription and have far more impressive search functionality.
Notion’s negligence is taking a page out of FTX’s playbook.
Was thinking this as well. We use it at the startup I work for but definitely took a bit to wrap your head around it. After that, you realize the possibilities are endless
@@johnjamison460 Its just an advanced spreadsheet.
@@hamm8934 Did chatgpt write this 😂? Just a tons of buzzwords that don't make sense.
@@aziz9488 buzzwords? I’m a software engineer. I know this space. Notion is a powder keg ready to blow and take down any enterprise partnership they have with them.
I discovered Notion halfway through my bachelor's degree and it felt like a cheat code for productivity. I'm now close to finishing my masters and still use it everyday. Very interesting to see the journey behind it!
I recently got into it when ppl mentioned ChatGPT alternatives
So I started using notion AI and it is great. Idk how all the templates and database work yet, but im using it like a better and easy-to-organize version of OneNote (toggle headings, subpages and breadcrumbs are just amazing omg) supercharged by a Generative AI. I'm using it during and after work and it makes everything faster
What does Notion actually do?
@@method341 productivity tool keep track and keep your life organized, can be used as a weekly agenda, create list, take notes and store notes in a folder that you create, and you can customize to fit your needs
@@aqibhasan3157 yeah thanks, I actually had a look on their website just before and realised you can make databases and web pages too.
Can you recommend a tutorial on how to use notion?
Excellent video! It's inspirational to see Akshay and Ivan's drive and perseverance in bringing Notion to life. Their nine-year journey to attain their objective demonstrates the power of perseverance and hard work. Notion is an innovative tool that enables individuals and teams to be more productive and creative.
Notion is my #1 source, my everyday life organizer, my notes, my thoughts, everything... Thank you guys for bringing Notion to our lives.
It's your #1 source? As in, it gives you ideas and content? And then you build upon those ideas by entering your own content back into Notion? Ever wonder where its suggestions came from? Ever wonder if other users were given YOUR ideas to help them in the same way it helps you?
Hi Bilgehan do you already used Obsidian ? Whether it's yes, if you compare it to Notion which apps is the most valuable for you ?
@@hisoka1186 I used Obsidian. But you can't even compare Notion with Obsidian because Notion has 500+ features that Obsidian doesn't have. Things like embedding PDFs, extensions, and visual improvements are important for note-taking. Obsidian want to be cool with its mapping system which I believe Notion will bring it soon
It was an honor to be with Notion. If you're curious about what kind of world Notion will build in the future, build idea now.
I remember the very first time I used Notion. Groundbreaking in its usability and sleek design, continuously evolving to provide the tools I didn't know I even needed before. Thank you for sharing your precious journey with us !
Really love Notion, it's simplicity, minimalistic approach, the Japanese & minimal vibe of it. A really well designed peaceful product.
Well japan website's and internet is far from minimalistic. They have the most cramped up websites.
@@suhanipal4565gahaha
@@suhanipal4565that guy obviously never been to Japan lol
Its using IKEA effect
@@suhanipal4565lmfao working as a engineer in Japan also done my university education in here, I can tell that you are 100% right 😅
So thankful for these guys and what they’ve created. They’ve got a Notion believer in me.
I love notion , I am using it for two years . Finally met the founders 😊😊
"It's kind of like art combined with technology, it's very intuition driven" - Ivan Zhao CEO of Notion.
Cool to see a CEO doing strategy with something spiritual: intuition.
Big thanks to all of you, Notion is an absolute beast of a tool 🙏
Watching this in the background while writing content ideas in my Notion dashboard. Thanks for such an awesome platform!
This video was amazing! All the tips were super helpful. Akshay and Ivan seem so down to earth and honest!
💯
bro he built myspace without the social media part genius man, both of them and their teams I appreciate it
Notion is one of the best tools! I use this for everything like work, notes, planning and staying organized in life. Can’t live without it!
My friend introduced me to notion and now I can't use any other software. Design is very simple ,helps to organize things lot easier. The tools are really helpful.
Thank you so much.
Notion's free version has been a lifesaver for our fledgling startup, but trust me, the moment we take off, that "pay" button is getting hammered! All the incredible features and functionality, it's honestly mind-blowing. Thank you for crafting software that inspires true appreciation.
So cool to "meet" the poeple who save humble dyslexic students, like me. To now have a note/organisation app system that they can trust.
Absolutely love love love Notion, am a huge fan and evangelist. Cannot wait to see how else it evolves. Thank you Notion team for everything you folks do!
My whole life is organised in Notion. Loved the Template-based go-to-market strategy as well.
Absolutely love Notion and the vision behind it! Great start up story!
Wtf is even notion for isn’t it some kind of notes app?
@@simply6162 yeah for kites
@@Mr.BobsDog there is very much competition
I have been using Notion for a while, I didn't know its roots were grounded in Asia!
Notion is probably the best product coming out during that 2015 wave
If the story is true, notion as product is when engineering, product, business & marketing does sit together and do their best (each of their team could utilize their expertise to the max since every team just focus into their own expertise)
One of the best consumer software products ever! It's gives the feeling of Zen so much that it justifies the fact that the product was built in Japan.
Thats just one way to view the case
And then you realise Zen wasn't built in Japan.
해외 컨텐츠 너무 유용하고 좋아요! 앞으로도 많이 부탁드립니다~ 한가지 아쉬운건 한글 자막이 조금 아쉬워요!
discovered notion when i was starting high school and it has accompanied me ever since.
Amazing! Notion is a really great tool, but I never thought that it's valuation could reach to 10bn. Congratulations on that! Well deserved!
These guys are great. They're so passionate about what they do. Notion was part of the tech stack (though not in my department) at a previous job. I just started using it and I'm excited at some of the possibilities.
I really really really love Notion. Hope it will become better and better.
I loved Notion so much I made it my full time job
Great story told by founders. I will try Notion first thing tomorrow.
Damn..9 years!
Not all unicorn achieve the best result within 2-4 years
True It's just those motivational speakers use this unicorn within 2 years blah blah blah
the large majority of people don't achieve something like this in their lifetime.
they achieved nothing except funding lets wait
What a beautiful area to hold an interview...
truly groundbreaking product
Notion has helped me so much while earning my degree in software engineering. I’m excited to ditch my notebook and use notion as my note taking and productivity
As a founder, this is inspiring.
What did you founded ?
Discovered notion last year and I can say notion is such a convenient app
tooooo maaaany cuuuuuuuts. let the man speak and breathe.
와 노션이라니!! 잘 보겠습니다!!!
Hands down the best note-taking app ever built.
I have used Notion for such a long time but haven't known the founder and co-founder until now.
they are so clear about it
Glad to know how notion was built and how it grew until now. Nice content!
It is wonderful! Great people make great tools!
Omg ! It has been developed by a INDIAN origin !! It motivates ❤️🙏
Thank you for building Notion!
I love Notion. This app and Tiimo are helping me move forward in life. It looks complicated, but you can simplify it and personalize it. As you understand how you want to work with it, then you can make it more customizable. It's a great app. My favorite in a very very long time.
Great product, I'm still learning. Well done guys, keep it up
Tried Notion a couple of years back and found it unintuitive, so it was a no go. Now I'm all about Obsidian. I own my data and have tons of plugins to choose from. Obsidian is just more intuitive.
Great content guys!
Notion is the best tool I’ve found for productivity in the last 5 years!
This was such a great presentation and interview. I totally admire Ivan's vision and Akshay's acknowledgment of that, and I wonder if they got to a point where they can say that they accomplished what they set out to do in the first place. Also thank you editors for your hard work!!!
Notion was essentially ‘no code’ before becoming Notion. That was pretty forward thinking just a bit early. 6:11
Love this story!
Love notion! As steve jobs said, " The computer is like a bicycle for the mind"
I think you guys should make more videos like this that are more authentic and real. I believe it’s one of the reasons it has so many views. Less of that hyper business hyper typical content that isn’t as interesting.
It played a significant role in boosting my creativity and changing my career. It affected my life. Good job.
Watching from the Philippines
this is one of the most life changing applications i've used
Notion is the great organizer all you need
Notion is beautifully built!
I love the 4 core values!
Seems like such a positive place to work. Seems like the founders really walk the walk. Be kind!
Really wonderful story.
I absolutely love Notion
I don't know how this video got on my list but it got you another subscriber -who would have thought? 😀 The soundtrack is so good, matches the video perfect! 😆 👍
I LOVE NOTION !
Interesting the way they thought to build Notion. It seems to me that there indeed exists a fundamental symmetry between the way we interact with the world/computers and how the brain processes information. Organizing everything in trees with well-defined parent and child folders came to me some years ago as the best way of creating a mental map of the folder tree structure. Love it!
노션 너무 좋아요~~~~~~~~~
I love notion I use it everyday.
Thank you for the video!
looking forward to their netflix documentary next year
Plz can you tag me when the upload their documentary?
quality content!
Great app, great founder.
Bro's got the Patagonia vest - VC hasn't left him lol
I love using notion!!!!
"Dumb" i loved it lol and damn man i neeeed that auto grammar fixing in notion u just showed
Great stuff guys. Using Notion myself I really like it!
love notion so much
Question, Evernote or notion? For everyday use for startup, we use jira for project management but still we feel lack of clustering data, resources.
interesting love the product !
I know this is so common and many Indians in comments say this, but seeing one of my favorite tools for education or just life co-founded by someone coming from Indian hereditary is so cool!
I don't understand one thing why they have to go to US and co found everything why not in India cause they literally have millions of brains to do everything by themselves without the need of third party.
@@justonce967Higher education. More reach. More connections. More funding. It's all about being surrounded by elite group in terms of education, networking and money.
Inspiring
I just love notion.
Is there a version of notion still left that works on building the software?
Can't wait til it's finished
I really enjoy notion, it is what MS one note should be, and I really enjoy the integration of document, table, and embedded, to be perfect the only lack thing is offline mode and excel level tables
MS Office used to come with a DB tool called Access, and it had lots of templates.
I imagine it can't work offline because much of its functionality relies on remote servers. I also expect that their business model relies on having access to the content you enter into their tool.
Notion was the most retarded program I've ever used.
That's great !
amazing program
Amazing
Love how an advert for ClickUp started playing a couple minutes into the video
hi, I wonder if Notion could be used to make and sale a product as a SAAS (software as a service)?
Love Notion
I use notion every day. It just makes sense
great video
Notion is probably the first ever software version of the IKEA effect
I love this
❤ Notion.....
EO미쳤다! 노션이라니