Moonshine in the Old West
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I come from south-west England and here we have a term called “moonrakers” these were smugglers who hid moonshine bottles in ponds or shallow bodies of water and would get them back out at night by using rakes. When questioned by the law, they said that they were raking the moon for its cheese. Hence the name “moonraker” it’s a small local tale I thought I’d share.
That is amazing history. I guess that answers the question of why the James Bond movie is titlet that..
Here in America we call the smugglers bootleggers hell moonshine was so rampant here in the untied states of America it started a sport nascar racing all that originates from trying outrun the law and the federal revenue agents and and stuff like that
Gotta watch out for them revenue agents!
Yep!
Yeah, one of 'em downvoted already.
Here in Vietnam, old timers make rice wine so strong, it is more like alcohol. Then they put reptiles or amphibians in it. Meat mellows out the flavor.
Woooooweee!
Learned to make “shine” nearly 50 years ago from an old guy in the Wallowa Country in NE Oregon. 10 lbs cracked corn, 10 lbs sugar and 10 gallons water for a small batch mash. Let it ferment in a non-metal tub. Strained it through a pillow case and ran it off in the kitchen in my wife’s pressure cooker thru a coil of good clean copper with water running over it in the sink and dripped into a jug . ( ticked her off big time 😂) We added the water and sugar to the mash two more times so got three runs off the same corn. We quit running it off when you couldn’t light a spoon full with a match. Got a full gallon on the first run, about 3/4 gal on the second and a half gal on the third. Then gave the spent mash to a flock of happy chickens😝. It was real smooth! 😜. By the way, still married after 55 years so I guess she got over her mad! 🤣
Well, that is something. Thanks for sharing and glad she got over being mad!
I remember in one of Louis L’amour’s books a character refers to “block and tackle whiskey”. One drink and you’ll walk a block and tackle anything.
Must have been the strychnine they sometimes used to artificially boost the proof of the crap booze most people made. Even a tequila shooter full of everclear (the 190 proof stuff, not that wussy 170) wont make you "block and tackle" drunk and it's as strong or stronger than most moonshine.
Consider that a lot of these folks back then had a diet different than ours today. They didn't necessarily eat the portions we do. I imagine they got snookered pretty quick if they didn't have a lot of nourishment before.
@@ArizonaGhostriders they probably didnt weigh 240 pounds like I do either.
That was "Borden Chantry" if I remember correctly.
@wolfinndndclothing I’ll have to dig that one out of my collection and take a look. Thanks
Tucson's daughter here, long before I was a 'shine in my daddy's eye, in the 50's. He lived in Columbus Ga. Daddy and my Uncle were stock drivers for rural shine routes mostly out of Phenix City Al. Said he was a kid doing it for the love of racing cars. That money bought him his 1st car. He got out of Dodge. See ya on down the trail...
That's very neat history, there!
Distilled once- Mountain Dew
Distilled twice - White Lightning
Distilled thrice - Pure moon
Any more and you blow up the damned still!
LOL!
Bourbon is distilled once.
Scotch Whisky is distilled twice.
Irish Whiskey is distilled thrice...
You know it's real moonshine when it smells like paint stripper and tastes like kerosene.
HA!
My great-grandfather and his brothers were moonshiners. But, he and one brother married a Methodist minister's daughters, got religion, and turned to blacksmithing.
That is a switch!
LMAO I know of methodist ministers that distilled all week then preached on sunday.
@@user-neo71665 Now that brings new meaning to Sunday school.
Mine too he was a shiner and a bootlegger
@@eclipseyt05 Man, you viewers got some corn likker in yer blood!
Once again I learned something new about types of "shine" thanks Santee.
In Ohio back in the 60's (1960's) we made our moonshine during the day and from the grape wine or apple cider we made in the back shed. We colored it with burnt sugar, and flavored it with anything handy and of course watered it down to 80 proof which is 40% alcohol.
My West Virginia born wife had a great uncle who was a sheriff in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, who helped the Federal men (or feds as they called them) go out and collect the tax at night, and consumed some "untaxed" shine during the day.
Glad you enjoyed
I came for the moonshine and stayed for the monkeyshine. If Sour Mash made an alcoholic beverage from pumpkins that was Halloween themed, he could call it Monster Mash.
People go ape over it.
Well, the "G" men, "T" men, revenuers, too
Searchin' for the place where he made his brew. They were looking, tryin to book him, but my pappy kept on cookin'
Phooooooo, white lightnin.🥃🎶🎤
HA!
Who doesn't love George Jones
@@ArizonaGhostriders great videos. Big fan of yours
@@midwesthistorycomesalive1895 Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders your welcome . Would like to talk to you sometime about reenacting
I can just imagine all the "research" this video required from y'all.
*hic* Waddya mean?
Research always includes sampling the research.
Considering I’m born and raised in WNC. I drink my shine straight. No flavors allowed. Same way I drink whiskey too.
One of my favorite channels to watch.
Thanks, Alan. I appreciate your devotion to the trade!
Thanks for "shining" a light on this. This country has a deep history of alcohol considering more troops were dispatched to put down the whiskey tax war than the amount of troops who fought against the British during the revolutionary war. I have never had real moonshine but the strongest stuff I've had is everclear. Yeah my family took away the everclear from me considering I drank half the concoction of cinnamon apple infused everclear at Christmas that was in a jar. I suppose they wanted some for themselves ha.
Everclear is about the same stuff. Sounds delicious, though.
Devin Petersen I walked into my dorm with some shine I bought from the ABC store, the next day he walks in with a couple of jars and says “this is REAL shine boy” I don’t remember the rest of that night. From the pile bone next to my unconscious self, I must have order a LOT of wings
My great grandpa is a shine distiller and I had some once ;-;
@@jamesstuart5016 how'd that fair? Did it give you pep?
Devin Petersen yes it gave me pep
My Grandpa ran shine in his youth. In the spring he'd make corn liquor (Spring Tonic) and in the fall he'd make it out of Apple's (Apple Jack) . Love the videos.
Thank you!
I recall back in the day when I was a buckskinner I went to a rendezvous at Bent's Fort. A fella brought in a 50 gallon keg of moon. Wow! He added some applejuice to give it flavor but a cup of that stuff would knock you on yer keister! Took the color out of yer hair! Powerful stuff.
Very cool! I want some!
There's a old hollow tree down by me, where you lay down a dollar or two, go around the bend and come again, filled up with that good ol mountain dew.
Yehaw!
My grandfather made a small fortune being a moonshiner. He lived in West Virginia. I make Dandelion Wine, myself, but not to sell, of course. This was a brilliant video, as always.
Wow, another moonshinin' sub! Love it. Thanks for watching.
I just picked up a bottle of 104.4 proof Kentucky Bourbon! Another great video Santee!
Me *hic* too!
Ok. I’m in Kentucky and I will only charge you .75 a proof. 🤣 and right now I have buy 3 bottles get 1 half price 😂. I really enjoy your videos dear friend. Tfs. Diane
Thank you Diane!
How much tax do you collect on each "proof"?
Thank you again Santee for another great beginning to my Saturday !
You're welcome!
Scene from one of my old favorites, "The Hallelujah Trail", showing "Oracle Jones."
"HALLELUJAH!"
The video I did on Frank Noel a couple weeks ago...he was in that as Bugler and held Burt Lancaster's horse in one scene.
Protect your rear, protect your other rear, protect both rears simultaneously!
@@thitsugaya1224 Sounds like what we tried to do in Nam but failed.
Perfect night for a midnight run
Yup
Santee just casually knocks back a mule kick like it was mama's milk.
What a man!
Yup
Amazing where a video game brings you lmao
Ain't it?
That ole Smoky shine is Great .! Very smooth! 😍..pexk
It's tasty
Thanks for the history lesson about Moonshine , Santee !!!!!!!!!!!
You're welcome!
Santee my good sir, moonshine is my families legacy its in my blood. Nothing beats some good ol Corn Liqour corn. (Fun fact, a sect of my mother's family from Eastern Kentucky moved to Arizona and opened a cattle ranch, its long since shut down but my mom has seen it and I gotta say I love how you guys are keeping our American heritage alive God bless you good sir) May the winds of fortune sail you all a gentle sea, and may it always be the other guy who says "Don't worry this round is on me"
Yeeehaw!
I didn’t know that’s what moonshine originally meant!! Great video! I love silent comedy. I loved the clip of buster keaton and fatty arbuckle
Yeah, me too. It's a weird movie short, that one. I don't think it's anything but gags (which is ok by me).
Two thumbs way up from Missouri for showing off a Platte Valley whiskey jug.
You're welcome!
@@ArizonaGhostriders love your content. I wish I could say I found you before I got involved with Red Dead Online, but Im just another statistic now that binges your videos. Also can't wait to try Arbuckles coffee thanks to your recommendation .
@@donc7664 Thanks much and I hope you enjoy the Arbuckles.
Love your videos guys, they are always super interesting, the facts help but most of the time you guys are what make this interesting. Much love from Jarl.
Thank you!
I'm pretty sure Santee just taught us how to make moonshine.
SHHHHHHH!!!!!
Very good video Santee glad I finally caught an early upload !
Yeah buddy! I enjoy some white lightning now and again! Especially with some green apples floating in it. And of course I ALWAYS buy it from my local liquor store. 😎
of course!
This is a good video to watch in the morning with a cup of Arbuckles' Mexicali after an evening of overindulgence.
Oh heck ya! I love their Mexicali roast.
Santee, you kinda got out shined there at the end. Keep up the great work.
HA! Thanks.
I remember someone telling me that if you took a spoonful of homemade moonshine and lit it on fire and it burned with a blue flame it was considered safe to drink. I am not sure how true this is! Lol! Thanks for another great video, Santee!
Pamela Kelly
That's gospel . . My grand dad on my mother's side was a huge moonshiner back in the early teens and twentys he was run completely out of Iowa and ended up here in Indiana and my great grand dad on my father's side was also a pretty big moonshine in Ohio county Kentucky around the same time I have their recipes . . Really smooth if you run it a couple times ( so I've heard )
@@brentrobinson6956 Thanks Brent!
It's amazing how many viewers have moonshining ancestors! Wow!
Santee, I knew you were bright. Now we know why. Keep on shining and have a hooch… er hoot of a time. 😁
LOL! thanks.
The Dumb and Dumber clip was perfection lmao, briefly choked on my sparkling water but was totally worth it
🤠
Hey I recognize that jug! Platte Valley corn whiskey! Good stuff, love it! Gonna have to try that 1:1 mezcal and whiskey cocktail, sounds like a way to really tie one on. Put some hot peppers in a bottle of white whiskey for a great morning pick me up with your huevos rancheros
Now that sounds interesting....
Nice one again Santee 🤪now I know how the term ‘boot leg’ came from.🤪..boy , I can smell the fumes just watching this.🤪better have me a lie down 🤭🤢
Get s snort first!
Along the rivers of Iowa, there used to be moonshining camps. You can still find clay jugs, some have even found old camps abandoned in Dubuque. Most people still make moonshine, using animal feed.
When prohibition happened in Iowa, people were already feeling the Depression even before the Depression hit. So a lot of the farmers started making moonshine from Animal Feed that they could get at the stores. Some even utilized the orchards to make brandy. Iowa of course was a dry state (dear god, the poor bastards) before prohibition was set in stone.
I bet that would be a lot of fun, finding those old camps.
Ha ha he hee lil brown jug i love thee! Good one Santee. Hic hic.
Thank you!
Raising a glass to old West tipplers!
Right back atchya!
Thanks for this Santee, kicking off my birthday today! 🤠🥃😜🥂🍻 Moonshine! Too many red dead redemption 2 fans running a muck here! LOL 😂. Oh well 🤷🏻♂️ I rather always stick with real old west history 😉! No video games! No westerns with fake characters! Just the real stuff! But thanks again, Santee! It's been wonderful! 🥃🤠 🎂🎈🎂
Happy birthday
Happy Birthday!
@@jerseyred9554 thank you! Cheers 🍻🍺🤠
@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you! Cheers 🍻🍺🥃 🤠
Good episode, Santee! This brought back memories of watching Dukes of Hazzard growing up.
Right?
I knew an old timer here on the Upper Skagit who told about towing a keg of whisky behind the boat when crossing the river, because it was so fresh off the still that it needed to be cooled. He said they put alder bark in a funnel and poured the whisky through it to get the amber color so the buyer thought he was getting the good stuff.
That is a great account!!
Oh you'll definitely see sour mash down the trail. 😉
I hope so!
Now I know you guys enjoyed making this one 😎
Oh *hic* yeah!
I love all the history information as a history buff
Much appreciated.
MOONSHINE !!!!!! ha ha ha Thanks so much Cheese ! Now if you do a vid on cigars, you have covered ALL the important subjects :-)
YES!
yep that stuff would grow hair on your chest & toenails too...It was sipping not chugging stuff like most think too. Plus it had other useful purposes too. Good Morning @Arizona Ghostriders..it's coffee time. lol
Good...uh...afternoon and thanks for watching!
Damn Sourmash!!! $180 what a jip Bob🤣
Yeah....but it was gooooood!
My Great-grandfather was a bootlegger across the Niagara River during Prohibition. Bringing in liquor from Canada.
Wow! Everyone's family history on here has some bootleggers or moonshiners!
The Crabbie Goat Distillery in Valleyview, Alberta makes a GREAT Root Beer Moonshine.
Great for making hard root beer floats on a hot summers day
Thanks for the info!
I live in Western North Carolina and we still have moonshiners around here to this very day. I don’t have a taste for any alcohol luckily but I get offered it whenever I’m at a friends house. So clean you can pour some out, light it on fire and you can’t even see the flame. Cars could run off this stuff. I usually make a point not to drink stuff that will run a car. That’s just me though.
Probably smart!
In Virginia we càll that whiskey triple back 3 times through the still
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha... I think Sour Mash put you together. "A buck a proof"? Dang, I'm int the wrong business. Fun episode today my friends! Thanks.
Yeah, he got me alright.
According to family legend my Great Grandfather Cornelius Hansen ran a still near Pinetop Arizona. There are dangers to doing such though as he fled Arizona ahead of the local constabulary.
What great history! When was this?
Let see, he died in 1953 I believe. So around the beginning of the twentieth century seems about right. I’d have to check with the family historian to be sure though.
I do know he borrowed his brother’s model T when he went if that helps give a better timeline.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Santee
Thank you!
What a cool episode I use to love watching moonshiners doco, it's so interesting to me and crazy what they have to do, it's amazing how many different flavors etc there are, apple pie sounds good to me.
Yup! Much appreciated.
@@ArizonaGhostriders +likewise my friend, 🙂
Best tasting shine I ever did get came directly from Popcorn Sutton while in Maggie Valley NC. That man could make the best shine out of anyone I ever knew. For modern legal shine, lots of choices now days, is from Palmetto Distillery in Anderson SC. Used to live a few miles from their shop and we would do Christmas Gift sets to our not so religious family and friends every year, seemed to be a much requested item for gift exchange/dirty santa family events. LOL
So cool you had some of his stuff!
I had a grandfather and grandmother who apparently made a profit off of moonshine. Interesting episode!
Wow!
Hey Santee speaking of moonshine Back in the late 30s to early 40s my dad used to deliver moon shine in the hills of Kentucky for the people who raised him. His mother left him around the age of 5 and an old man and woman that made it took him in and one of his jobs was to deliver the shine. Great video have a great week SMASHED THE THUMBS UP
That is so cool!!
Mighty fine. Thanks Santee
Many families had recipes that used very specific ingredients.often water from certain sources of corn from key farms.and certain still designs were favored by family tradition.
Thanks for sharing
Santee its my 31st bday today. Pass that shine my way! God bless Santee enjoy your saturday :)
theultimatehunt happy birthday.
Happy Birthday! You can have it all!
You and your pards always amazed me with the facts that you uncover. Keep up the great work and I'll see you on down the road. 🤠👍 Kid Tumbleweed
P.S. sorry I didn't get to see you at Winter Range
Wish I could have made it up. Hopefully next year.
I knew a guy back home in Virginia way back in the Hills ever so often he would give me a Mason Jar of his brew, 3x through the still 150 to 190 proof just from the trips through the the kettle still. It would put your lights out if you didn't go easy. He's been gone now for about 25 years. It was just for family and friends. He never sold it
.He said it was, his water,corn, yeast and grains and no the Government's business what he did with it. Those old time Scot- Irish were a different breed. They were tuff as nails and good as gold.
Great history.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks, he felt my,corn, grain water etc none of the Government's business
Don`t light a match ... TOO FUNNY :-)
He is!
Well the G-men and T-men (Revenuers too), were searching for the place where he made his brew! They were lookin', tryin' to book 'im, but mah Pappy kept on cookin'!
Pbbbbbbbtt!
White Lightning!
Yeeehaw!
Santee, you could make these videos twice as long we would still want more.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Poor Dirty Dan missed out on the shins, he would’ve had fun with this episode!
Maybe he done too much research and couldn't make it.................
HA!
2:38 that's funny, The Horse Drinking also
7:00 PM | 1//22//2021
🤠 Yup
@@ArizonaGhostriders Is there a Video of that particular part Ghostrider if you don't mind me asking?
8:57 PM | 1//25//2021
hey Sante could you do a video on how to fall safely (ie if you have been shot) so you dont get hurt
Yes. After I heal up from not falling safely. HA!
Try not to think of it as falling, but rather as colliding with a planet instead.
I looked for some once about 20 years ago. Couldn't find anyone up North around where I live who 'shined.
Talked to some of my friends down in Tennessee and Georgia, and darned if everyone's uncle didn't 'shine, lol. Got a Ball jar full (hey, it was free), and the stuff was tasty, but I don't think they were taking cuts, since a shot would give me a headache. But it was a good learning experience!
If you're looking for "safe" commercial moonshine today, it's being marketed as "new make spirit". It's essentially un-aged whiskey in cask strength...
So I understand. I have some in a small cask aging as we speak.
Hey Santee.
Here on Mexico it's hard to find Moonshine, but Pulque, oh man, specially on the center of the country, you can find pulque everywhere around here.
Tastes wonderful! You should definitely try it out one day!
Thanks for the info! One day...
A couple years ago we toured Jack Daniels, they told us about the black mold, it was everywhere.
It would appear it's at Jim Beam, too.
Ho Santee, got my bottle of Jim Beam on my little table ready to watch GUNFIGHT AT THE OK CORAL tonight ( douglas and Lanc ) your bourbon whiskeys are the best in the world. Graham in England
Glad to hear it. I'm fond of it, myself. Never took to Scotch as much.
Excellent video as usual Santee , I've never given a thought to frontier moonshiners . , I've read it was called Firewater because if you put a match to it it would burn a blue flame. Keep up the great work y'all ! . PS : I really liked your Steampunk video too .
That's true! Thanks for watching, Dennis.
When visiting Craters of the moon National Monument in Idaho, I found out there is a still off in one of the valleys' The kind of place you could die just trying to find it.
I believe you will find the terms moon shine and boot legging came with the Scottish and Irish immigrants who settled the Tennessee and Kentucky areas.
No doubt
I have a friend who’s my age who made his way as a bootlegger running shine in Georgia. So the production and distribution system still survives. I was cautioned by an employer to fly higher over the Appalachians, when I see smoke! 🤔
Cool!
I can only imagine the logistical nightmare of your products being produced for a major network formatted towards education.... But they are the type of program that I would subscribe to. Too bad cable TV can't compete with the Ghostriders
Well, that is a wonderful thing to say, Rusty. Thank ya!
I haven't had any homemade moonshine, but I do have an unopened bottle of bourbon on the shelf, maybe i'll stick with that for now...
That works.
Red dead redemption moonshiners brought me here's
great channel partner
Thank you! Welcome to the Ghostriders.
Santee I saw the Death Valley Days video on getting snow, then ice to cool beer from the mountains. I always wondered how did the saloons in the more arid parts of the west keep their beer cold. Did they dig out caves and store the beer kegs there or what? That would make a good video on how they keep their food and beer cold in the old west.
I have a video on that. But I may go more into detail in the future.
Damn now I need a drink thanks ghostriders. Wait a minute I don't drink. Oh well.
Grab a coke and smile.
Man I love this channel great content keep up the good work
Thank you!
As always, informative and funny thank you
Thank you!
Great stuff Santee, I learned something this morning, thanks
You're welcome!
If you can find it, there is a company making legal moonshine using Popcorn Sutton's recipe, it's amazing
Good stuff!!
Could you do a video on traveling shows in the west?
Yes
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks Santee!!
I would love to find some real shine sometime.
Take a trip to the south
Dang! Whiskey and mezcal in equal parts?!?! Meet me at the Cosmopolitan and I'll try that!
Oh no you don't Gerry. Those two are a recipe for disaster.
Always good when a new video is released. My grandpappy on my Mama's side made moonshine. My dad used fruit and other items he gathered in the South Pacific during WWII to make shine. He called it Jungle Juice. Shine in my area of NC was called by many names. I remember it being called Stump Hole as well as just Shine. Have a friend that makes the best Apple pie moonshine. He leaves slices of apple in the jar. Keep up the good work and I will see you on down the trail.
Thanks, Eric. Pass the Jungle Juice.
@@ArizonaGhostriders daddy's pet monkey got into the stash, that daddy hid in the foxhole, and got drunk. This was at Puerto Princessa in Palawan Philippines in 1945. Daddy was in the 13th Air Force.
@@ericruss4189 A pet monkey? That's fun. My Dad was in Guam with the 3rd Marine Div.
I know he drank...but he never had a monkey!
Rex would be a good ridgerunner. Not many revenuers will try to stop him
Excellent idea!
Would mead have been at all popular? It's so easy to produce (maybe honey cost could be something) but you'd think a saloon could have a couple jugs of it fermenting all the time. Also can you do a video on all the critters and varmint our ancestors had to deal with out west?
Well it’s not the old west but I enjoy making mead from local bees in Flagstaff Arizona. I don’t distill alcohol as I keep getting different answers on its’ current legality here.
I think it's wholly possible, since a lot of the cultures that came west would have had ancestors who passed down the recipe.
Interesting topic man. Appreciate the video.
You're welcome!
I expected Dirty Dan to bring a cigar in and you end up with soot on your face lol
Could happen in the future.
Lordy mercy. I'm in eastern kentucky and I didn't know who hit Sally cost that much lol
LOL!