Chess AI Leela (RTX 4090-trained) crushes Grandmaster without a knight
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- Featured is a remarkable Rapid game between a specialized version of AI Leela Chess Zero and chess grandmaster Alex Lenderman. This version of Leela, LeelaKnightOdds-dev on lichess, was trained on Nvidia's powerful graphics card, an RTX 4090. LeelaKnightOdds-dev was specifically trained from a start position without a knight. It's a thing of beauty to see just how effortlessly Leela creates an environment where its queen is more free, embarrasses more than one of the enemy pieces, and launches a tsunami of pawns towards the grandmaster's king all while making sacrifices along the way. The game finishes with an aesthetic tactical sequence leading straight to mate. And one final note, Leela's moves only took on average 1.1 seconds!
I'm a self-taught National Master in chess out of Pennsylvania, USA who was introduced to the game by my father in 1988 at the age of 8. The purpose of this channel is to share my knowledge of chess to help others improve their game. I enjoy continuing to improve my understanding of this great game, albeit slowly. Consider subscribing here on TH-cam for frequent content, and/or connecting via any or all the below social medias. Your support is greatly appreciated. Take care, bye. :)
★ LICHESS.ORG lichess.org/@/...
★ CHESS.COM www.chess.com/... (affiliate link)
★ TWITCH / chessnetwork
★ TWITTER / chessnetwork
★ FACEBOOK / chessnetwork
★ PATREON / chessnetwork
★ DONATE www.paypal.com...
PGN
1. c4 e6 2. g4 d5 3. Bg2 dxc4 4. O-O Nc6 5. Nc3 Bd7 6. d4 cxd3 7. Qxd3 Nf6 8. g5 Nd5 9. Rd1 Bd6 10. Ne4 Qe7 11. Nxd6+ cxd6 12. e4 Nb6 13. a4 e5 14. a5 Nc8 15. Qb3 Be6 16. Qg3 Nd4 17. Rxd4 exd4 18. f4 f6 19. f5 Bc4 20. Bf4 O-O 21. h4 Kh8 22. Rd1 d3 23. Rc1 Bb5 24. g6 h6 25. Qe3 Bc6 26. Bxh6 gxh6 27. Qxh6+ Kg8 28. b4 a6 29. h5 Na7 30. Rc3 Rac8 31. Rxd3 Nb5 32. Rg3 Qg7 33. Qd2 Rfe8 34. Qa2+ Kh8 35. Qb2 Re5 36. Qc1 Rce8 37. h6 Qe7 38. Qc4 Rg8 39. g7+ Kh7 40. Qxg8+ Kxg8 41. h7+ Kxh7 42. g8=Q+ Kh6 43. Qg6
I suppose Mikhail Tal's quote "Fisher is Fisher, but a knight is a knight" can now be extended to "However Leela is Leela"
However, Chuck Norris is victorious.
Who is Fisher? Has he caught some trout?
@@jaymxu lol Fischer
@@willmunoz1638 Yeah, thanks, Fischer meant too much for people to be writing his name like that, just doing it so people end up remembering how to write it in the future.
There’s something so beautiful with how engines like leela play. Please show us more of leela!
I bet I'm not alone on this; I could watch a thousand Knight-Odds-Leela-vs-GM-games in one sitting-
MANY Thanks 🙏😊🎉
No you cannot
Oddly enough, no pun intended, this has to be one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen. Leela's straightforward aggression but positional precision is remarkable! First, Leela sets out to gain space and disrupt black's development. Second, many of Leela's moves were multi-purpose, and of course the exchange sacrifice to deflect black's pawn from the e-file was very beautiful. This game makes me question how much do we really know about chess when an engine can play such beautiful and dominating chess against a 2650 gm down a full knight from move one and proceed with such unusual moves. Thank you for the game Jerry! Cheers!
I, for one, welcome our new Leela overlord.
the one to success silicon overlord
The way that Leela just storms down with every pawn and sacrifices a rook looks so beginner-like and yet so effective. Its poetry in motion!
Sometimes so happens to me that I make a move, then I think I messed up and I think it was an inaccuracy, mistake or blunder, but when I go analyze the game it was the best or excellent move:D
Sometimes even a ! Good move and even more rearely though occasionally it's a !! brilliant move.
What I find interesting is that Leela ended one knight down, just as she started.
GM trained on GTX 1070
lmao
i was thinking like an overclocked r9 380 or something
GM just needs to update his drivers and he'll be sound
The hardware only makes training faster. Not better results.
Fascinating! I always enjoy your analysis of Leela games. As always, great job explaining everything.
Next step: no queen-rook. I wonder how much time it would take Leela to figure out the blue chicken gambit.
it would figure it out pretty quickly as soon as that glitch is introduced to its training engine.
leela makes chess look like a different game
please show us more of these games
Greatest lesson in Queen mobility I've ever seen.
Less than 50 seconds for all moves? That's adding insult to injury.
Just an FYI, the GPU isn't a metric for training, a weaker GPU run for longer would have the exact same output
Unless it's running live of course
Nice vid Jerry! Greetings from Holland, Europe.
What's kind of astonishing is that despite all of the commentary, which convinced me that white had been winning or at least in a drawn position for the second half of the game, Stockfish says that black remained hovering at around -3 right up until the blunder on move 38. All things considered, Lenderman's defense was excellent.
But at this point do you even trust stockfish 👽
@@etiennechaplais1764 With more time to analyse the position? Sure, why not?
Good one:)
@@etiennechaplais1764
Of course. Depepnding on your hardware configuration, they're about equal, if not SF being stronger for engine play. @etiennechaplais1764
@@anderslarsen4412I think stockfish is biased because its evaluation of leela essentially works by comparing it with the moves stockfish would have played itself. So if leela and stockfish have a different style, then stockfish would rate leelas style worse than itself (at least over the course of the next few moves).
Im not a chess engine dev tho, so take it with a grain of salt.
a wonderful odds game. Thanks Jerry.
Crushing performance by Leela. Scary intimidating to watch. Thanks Jerry.
Thanks for posting Jerry!
Incredible game by Leela, showing insane strength of the best engines compared to humans. There’s plenty of interesting games amongst the computers which would be interesting to see with your coverage!
Leela play like tal in modern way
Jerry is a legend. Top notch chess commentary for >decade. Thanks for the game
That was awesome. Great effort by GM Lenderman, and amazing control by monster Leela
You could almost hear Liela’s hardware clicking with surprise at how easy her moves were to make. Here she was, anticipating certain doom a Knight down against an opponent like herself!
She threw the rule book right out the window at the start. Dazzling.
Has anyone played LIChess with Knight odds? I have at various levels and w/o the Knight Lichess uses the space to collect pieces in unique ways and really goes for the throat. I would define the play as "knowing it is losing and impatient to change that". Crazy fun. I'm OTB 1800 and that is my experience
Love engine games! Impressive amount of (exchange) sacrifices in this one given Leela already starts on the back foot. Poetic indeed.
Leela is honestly so awe-inducing to watch, every move is elegant perfection. People say human players are more interesting to watch but there's a lot to be said for Leela's ability to pierce through the latent space of possible moves and find wins with tactics a human mind simply could not identify.
@@Cuyut982 yeah, leela and alphazero have many interesting game
When people say "human players are more interesting to watch" I like to think that that's because their games are more comprehensible for us. On the other hand, you don't learn by observing the likes of you.
@@vivvpprof yeah , human idea is easier to follow
Hi Jerry its everyone! A daily viewer of yours, have all watched all ur videos from the past, just one request please try to post more often
A grandmaster being given knight odds and being beaten? The trick is the time control. 15/10 is too fast for a human. Let's see Leela beat a GM at 40 moves in 2 1/2 hours while giving knight odds.
yes, people normally get to think some on opponent moves also, but that doesn't happen here, so it's almost like the time control is halved
To be honest, I think this is kind of scary.
Leela really play like tal in modern way
and also Capablanca, the way Leela can make things looks simple with positional play.
Inspirtational game, AI chess programs probably will come up with breakthroughs in chess theory in the near future .. Many Thanks Jerry !!!
They have already been doing that since 2018
@@runl6117 Thanks for your clarification 👍
With the advent of quantum computing and the evolution of AI, I wonder how long until chess is solved
Poetic how in the final position black is still up that one knight in material.
just waiting for chess to be a completely solved game at some point where every game can be drawn with perfect play
Strong ai nice clear explanation, i learned a lot..
We've known engines are better than us for a while now... but occasionally they remind us how bad it is, and it's scary sometimes
I'm a simple man. I see a Jerry new video, I click on it.
Absolutely disgusting play from Leela. It’s just not even fair.
Black should have played 1...e5. Would have been a much better opening in that situation rather than that passive ...e6
Jerry you're the original ASMR imo
If Laela had to freeze and restart for updates Black would have had it
All hail our robot overlords. I hope they turn out friendly.
It is simply beautiful
Man, It looks like the game could have been played by me with the black pieces.
I wonder how "normal" Leela would do in this situation. Admittedly, it won't have the specialized training, but I assume it in general has way more training. It would be fun to see Leela knight odds vs Leela.
Hi! The current LeelaKnightOdds bot uses the standard Leela, while the specialized network runs on LeelaKnightOdds-dev. While the standard Leela performs well in knight odds with the right settings, LeelaKnightOdds-dev is even stronger
I’d love to see Magnus play odds vs Leela
Hello jerry,thanks
AI always plays game of the century games😮
AI I can get behind!
Baby steps towards dangerous ai
thanks
I'm pretty sure Stockfish would have sacrifice back some material to secure a winning endgame. But at the human level this is hard to do.
Time to invent your own game.
I think this Leela woman may be using an engine
the gm played scared, rather than give back the odds to maintain an easy game to trade away, he made some 1 move trades that generated 2 tempo for his opponent.
then he just developped with no plan ignoring all the gained space by leelu.
he couldve traded a piece for a pawn at anytime in the early game to gain back all his space and look for a drawn game.
instead he tried to fancy the computer.
Give it a go and check back in. It’s quite the experience.
@@ChessNetwork how can we do that?
@@TY1979KA You can play against the specialized version on Lichess, called LeelaKnightOdds-dev. You can also challenge the standard Leela at knight odds, under the name LeelaKnightOdds. Just click the direct link in the bot's description to challenge her
I wonder how far they can push this and see how many points an ai can be down and still beat gm players
Fantastic game.
Playing against Leela is just seeing how long you can survive
This is like watching a Paul Morphy game from the Romantic era of chess, only with the chess knowledge and computing power of 2024😄
So basically Morphy/Tal/Nežmetdinov game on steroids.
Though Morphy played against much lower rated players than him with a rook down and won many, if not all. I think the difference between this GM and Leela (Idk Leela's Fide rating if "she" even has one, but isn't her elo rating like 3700 to almost 3800?) So like 1000-1100 rated better than this guy (Well maybe his elo is higher than 2650 though, might alot more, which makes the gap difference a little bit smaller, if Leela's rating is it's Elo rating) and Morphy played with a rook down against even great players with only a couple of hundred ratings lowers, like max 500, but the toughest opponents he faced must have been like only 250-300 rating lower than Moprhy who played sometimes with a rook down against those top players not SO far behind him talent wise, as almost every other chess player was, when he played.
Give it harder odds! Like missing bishop pair. Really wanna see an “odds” Leela bot 😅 That’s my favorite type of chess content because it more easily breaks down how pieces have to work together to win. Fewer pieces and being outnumbered makes it a lot easier to see how it works.
Imagine giving your life to a game only to get destroyed with knight odds. Brutal
By an AI which has millions of games in its database and can do millions of math operations in seconds... Honestly, he did very well lasting this long in the game. Nothing to be ashamed of here!
@@SoutaN0101 He did a great job. I'm just saying it's gotta feel demoralizing
Great game by machine against human🎉❤
I would love to see Magnus taking on this challenge. Would he draw or even win being a Knight up?
Hi! I'm the person behind this project. While we believe top players are still favorite, the project is evolving rapidly. Stay tuned for a match against a stronger GM in the coming weeks!
Why did he let the queen stay in the middle unchallenged for so many moves
Ek paheli leela
What's up jerry
Computer vs human games are epic
Incredible game. Kind of sad in a way. The machine overlords are ...
Magnus would win this with black.
I 100% agree. I'm way below 2650, but it seemed to me like the GM blitzed out every move or didn't take the game serious.
@@fatihorhan9355he got low on time
@@MichaelSt Do you know what the time control was?
15'+10"
computer is strong.
Until what amount of odds can a GM defeat an engine like leela?
I think Queen odds is possible.
@@FahimHoq interesting
It depends a lot on the strength of the GM and the time control. In a classical time control, things would skew in favor of the grandmaster.
In rapid with knight or bishop odds, strong grandmasters tend to trade blows with the engine. That is, they lose some, win some, and draw some. A top-level player, like Hikaru or Magnus, might actually still win most of their games though. Hikaru has been able to hold draws against Komodo with only pawn odds.
With rook odds, the material imbalance isn't really felt until the endgame, so it might actually lead to better outcomes for the engine than knight or bishop odds.
For queen odds, the grandmaster should basically win every game. Although, they could still lose every once in a while.
@AFastidiousCuber i remember GM Andrew won aganist a version of stockfish in 0:15 + 0 or so, it is a very interesting match.
@@artificercreator what were the odds in that match
A monster
Stockfish or Leela??
Engines have ruined chess.
Leela got that turbo castle with no knight
Hey Jerry
the 4090 is no different from a gt 710 for training purposes. (equalized for time spent)
unfort tech bros seize on this kind of thing for their hype wagons
Wild
You can see a very clear skill gap between the two players, they are on completely different levels of thought complexity. This is like if I played against you, or if you played against Magnus.
Aside from the interesting and entertaining features of this game, it also has another hidden benefit:
Now I know exactly how to play next time I'm giving a GM knight odds...💀
The first thought: I absolutely didn't like how the man played, nevermind he's a grandmaster, and I'm not. Absolutely not the best human play. Engines are impressive nowadays. Give them more power, they will calculate almost instantly, but that doesn't mean that a human can't convert an advantage of extra knight into a win with the best play.
Stockfish says he was doing just fine until his blunder on move 38, so I wouldn't be too hard on him.
@@jrd33 still, should be no blunders with engines, or else you can't win
ELO 3600 vs 2600 is like me (1700) playing vs a total noob. What do you expect?
Material odds significantly increase value as the odds receiver become stronger. At the Grandmaster level, a knight up is a huge advantage, so giving knight odds in rapid games is far from trivial for any other engine. Most engines, struggle with knight odds against Grandmasters. Even masters can win the majority of knight odds games against Stockfish, despite Stockfish is not weaker than Leela
What is next?!
Yeah, Rg8 is a shocking error especially as up until then black is maintaining the advantage
Slenderman is good at chess
Drawing blueprints for a T-1000 proof underground shelter in backyard.
?
How does c4 take d3 at the 1:44 mark?
What is this?
This is en passant.
@@ChessNetwork Not only had I not known of this, but, a few times I've played chess I've thought, too bad there isn't a tricky rule that lets me do this.
I must have crossed into this universe in my sleep last night.
Very bizarre. Total freak out.
Hopefully in the next universe I cross into, I'll have McIntosh audio.
Perhaps they should ban these engines from tournament play, doesn't seem fair to the meat players.
Lol bro the meat 🍖 players
That's some shit
Well we should see Leela untrained, and then check the time again! Not an actual fair game!
The engine would make random moves untrained.
@@vivvpprof Well my point are the 10 minutes from which Leela used only a few seconds. This is what I say as unfair, since Leela had all the time necessary to train. If we want to compare we need to give the same parameters for both human & AI. Unless what we want to prove is that an AI can beat a human even from an inferior position, which we already know.
240
1222
jerry couldve beat leela
Hi
White Eric Miller Steven Miller Jose
I could draw as black. EZ Clap
draw a black picture, maybe
@@KF1 I played the bot 17 times and got humbled every single one of them. It is absurdly adept at forcing you into uncomfortable situations (opposite sides castling, preventing you from castling). Despite being objectively dubious, in practice this negates a lot of the material advantage. And it is a tactical wizard, which I did expect.
I dont want to critic Lenderman too much but I got the feeling he played very poorly in this game, too much in awe. If you are already a piece ahead why take on c4 and the on d3 giving lela basically 2 tempo to develop, not challenging g4 and allowing a5 scaring your Knight to c8. This is close to 1100 teretory.
The engine (Stockfish 16 NNUE) says he was winning all the until the fateful blunder. Instead, after 38... d5, for example, it says more than -5. So, I think Lenderman should be commended for his great play before the unfortunate miss, which was also more than -5 if White did not execute the beautiful sacrifice :)
Stockfish also gives both dxc4 and cxd3 as top 3 moves within roughly 0.2 centipawn evaluation. So, they were clearly perfectly healthy moves. I think quite the contrary is shown by them as well! He is not in awe of the machine, so he does not fear it saying "show me! I will take the pawns *and* still have the knight. I am clearly winning.". The knight from c8 also found its way out to b5 and could even have gone to d4 from there.
your analysis is 1100 territory...he played well for a long time
"I don't want to critic Lenderman too much..." says the 1000 elo player,
Lenderman began the game with a clear advantage. Consequently, Stockfish or any other engine would likely assess his moves positively, unless he made a significant blunder, as he did towards the end. However, it's evident that Leela prefers dynamic positions with spatial advantages and exerts pressure through its piece maneuvers. Lenderman's play directly favored Leela's strengths, as exemplified in my move examples. Leela even sacrificed a rook, capitalizing on its momentum to further restrict Lenderman's piece play and advance its kingside pawn, creating threats. Therefore, it's irrelevant whether Lenderman consistently played one of the top three moves or held a material advantage of +3 or +5. Leela maintained constant pressure and threats. I didn't perceive any significant threats or pressure in Lenderman's play; instead, his approach seemed to be 'I have such a large lead, I'll capitalize on it later.' If you disagree with this analysis or believe that it requires further clarification, please let me know.
11:24 Rh3++ is much nicer here. I always prefer mates with the lowest possible piece. Pawn mates are the best!
The GM played like a noob 😂😂
bro bought his gm title