Choosing a Rav Drum - Find the Best Scales for Beginners, Percussionists and Songwriters
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Hello my Friends!
Join me today in a discussion that is imperative to the purchasing of a Rav Vast.
The scale you choose first, makes a big difference in the directions you head creatively and musically.
Here we will discuss and demo four amazing scales, that are a perfect place to start for first time players, and seasoned musicians alike.
These scales are, in my opinion, ones that provide the most melodic movement, and dynamic playing styles.
Have tried all the Rav scales currently available, I feel confident in these recommendations.
As stated in this video, these recommendations are only PART of the process. No matter which you are purchasing, making sure you feel connected to that scale, will allow even the trickiest of scales to work for you.
Follow your heart and ear!
Good luck on your Rav Journey and remember,
Rewildyoursoul
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I have just discovered this absolutely beautiful instrument and it just blows me away. I am in the process of deciding and what you shared has helped me very much. Thankyou. I am 62yrs old and its a challenge to learn a new instrument and one I feel I'm up for. Thanks again for your guidance. Warm regs from Aus
I love hearing that! I think music is an amazing things for all places in life. Good for you starting this new music journey! If you ever need any lessons are advice, be in touch my friend! rewildyoursoulmusic @ gmail . com
Now I want all of them. Lol. Awesome video!
Seriously! It’s an addiction of the best sort 🤣🙏🎶
I agree. They all sound beautiful. I feel like I could throw a dart and still love whatever it lands on. Lol
Beautiful playing brother, thank you
Grateful for you putting out this informative video. as I try to make a decision - this is extremely helpful
Oh man, your playing makes me cry. Thank you for this, and yes, to rewilding the soul!
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Thank you - informative and inspiring!
These are super helpful! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge freely.
Glad it was helpful! :)
Thank you very much for this video! You really helped me chose my first Rav Vast ... I initially ordered the B Celtic Double Ding in 432 Hz ... however after some more listening I felt the B Kurd to genuinely touch my heart. I don't know what the reason is, perhaps because of being from Bulgaria and the more "eastern" vibe it has. So before they shipped it, I changed my order to the B Kurd. The thing you play on B Kurd in all your videos is awesome, I will definitely be trying to learn it from your video :) If I one day find spare money for another Rav it will definitely be the G Pygmy though... that scale just blows me away. It has very meditative sound.
Well done my friend! Finding the scale one gravitates to was my starting point along with your guidance made selecting our first RAVs an easy choice. I seem to gravitate to the minor scales the most. Our Ravs are the best investment in instruments we have ever made! Not many instruments can hold up to every day playing like a RAV Vast can. Thanks!
Agreed brother! It has definitely changed my musical direction significantly! The choice of a scale is such a tough call so wanted to get a video mentioning my current thoughts, since all those reviews videos are years old now! 😂 Thanks for listening! 🙏
oh wow i want both lol amazing playing btw and thank you for the reviews!
It’s a tough choice haha. You are very welcome! Glad to help. If you get one and are on the market for lessons, be in touch 🎶🙏 I also recently posted my whole Rav Vast album on my page as well. 🎶🔑
A integral here!! Really loving the scale!
Glad you got that one!
Awesome thanks, I choose the Rus A rav vast minor to go along with my Native flutes.
A perfect choice!
B Celtic all the way! I can't wait to eventually buy one... One day 💙
Thank you for the video. Even this informative video was so relaxing
My pleasure Jesse! I am certain you will get one eventually! Feel free to check out my Rav album Lux Natura (should be the most recent video on my TH-cam home page). Have a good day!
I'm liking this a lot more than my steel tongue drume. The middle you talked of sounds perfect for me. The sound and pitch (finger strike, of course) is a better match. I enjoy this one better.
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LETS go! That sounds amazing.
amazing content!
Appreciate it!
What does everyone feel the best is as I can’t pick and it’s going to be my first I love them all!
I really want this drum!!❤
🙏🎶
I'm not a musician, but I've been watching Ravvast videos for a few years. During the next weeks I will finally purchase one, I think it will improve a lot my mental health. I was so secure I wanted an Onoleo (been wanting an Onoleo for at least 3/4 years) but now listening you playing the B Celtic I'm not feeling so sure 😂 it's the first time I'm having doubts about this! You made me feel a connection with the B Celtic and I never felt it in the past! Till now only Onoleo resonated with my heart, now I'm having mixed feelings ahah
If you resonate with it, get it! I say at the beginning and end, uLtimately, the scale best for you is 5 some you resonate with. I think feeling connected to it is the key 🔑 If you need help working with it to, would be happy to set up lessons when it arrives 😉🎶
@@ReWildYourSoul thank you so much for taking time to reply me 🙂 took the day to watch more Onoleo and B Celtic videos. I'll probably get Onoleo now and save for a B Celtic. I've been watching your videos to get more knowledge about how to play the Rav. They really help me a lot to understand how everything works. When I get mine, if I see I get stuck on it, I'll definitely contact you to see your availability for some lessons 🙂 thanks once again, have a great week. Sending good vibes from Portugal ✨
Exact same story with me.
I love Irish music (Chieftons, etc), however, the music of my soul is Middle Eastern, Indian, and Progressive). I play Tabla, dumbec, berimbau, gongs, talking drums, etc. Now, after watching these videos, for my first pan, I can't decide.
..Any more help deciding would be very helpful.
@@woodzieniles9072 I ended buying the Onoleo and and couldn’t be happier with my choice! The sound of it it’s definitely the one I connect more
I like the way you play...
Thanks! :)
thank you so much🙏🏻 you helped me a lot! when i’ve decided to choose my own Rav Vast (B celtic) i got completely lost🙆🏼♀️
Glad to help and if you are interested in lessons, feel free to reach out through here, my website or email! rewildyoursoulmusic @ gmail . com
🙏🙏 Thank you
You’re welcome 😊
Wow you play really beautiful :)
Thanks so much! I have tons of music in here, on Spotify and iTunes as well. Just look for Rewildyoursoul and the albums are Lux Natura and Lunaria 🎶😉
@@ReWildYourSoul yes! I will take your music as inspiration to learn the Rav Drum for myself :)
Thank you for that helpful content. I wonder why no one mention the B major Rav Vast. It’s often all about the D major. I would love to see a comparison video B major and D major if possible, but also replying to this text would be much appreciated.
Since the B major is deeper it seems to give a slightly different mood than the higher D major which sounds even more joyful. Would be great to get your opinion on the two scales. Thank you.
Hey there! I think it is lily because it was initially only made for a short time and I have never done a review of it back then for their channel or mine.
I Would love to so if I get my hands on one!
One of the other reasons is that they are producing so many scales with a B central note, people are looking for something different (though the B Celtic is only 2 note different from the D Major!) Have a great day my friend!
ravtastic brother, thanks for another sterling video, b kurd is my 1st vast then a integral. any thoughts on mic pickups?
Thanks my friend! Pickups are a tricky thing. There are a few handpan pickups that are magnetic that work, but I have not really encountered anything, aside from my friends custom made one for a snare stand, that I love! Will look around for some links for you.
Hi, love your music. Please tell me the name of the color of the instrument that you're playing in this video. I do not like the dark mat blue which seems to be the only one I can find. I want to get it in the Celtic minor, and will gladly buy it through your link. Thank you
I have a (very old, now) degree in music education but you have the advantage way over me in these instruments and these particular scales. It's exciting to learn about them. You have a sweet and clear personality in presenting them. Reminds me of "Donovan" from my seventies era. I am just venturing into playing tongue drums but yours is something even more etheral. Where would I buy a Rav drum? Do you have teaching videos?
I believe most people prefer to order directly from the manufacturer RAV. Good communication and fast delivery. You can also ask for a discount. I didn't ask but on the next day they've noticed that I kept something in the cart (I've registered before). I was grateful and also ordered mallets and a bag-mallets proved very useful for us (total beginners) as hitting it with bare hands takes some skill and some effort (especially the smaller tongues), plus mallets certainly bring some variety.
I wish I can post the link but TH-cam automatically deletes the comment containing it. Just search for this instrument's name and you will find the official website. Only one company is making them.
You can try using REWILD promocode on the checkout page to get some discount. I've just found it posted by Ricky (ReWildYourSoul) in his video description!
Really appreciative of the kind words :) Rav drums are often the least expensive from them directly! Ravvast . com is their site.
There is also a link and my personal discount code, REWILD, for 10% off to, if you go that route.
Its an amazing rabbit hole to jump down. Ravs and tongue drums in general still fascinate me after all these years!
If you get one and are looking for lessons, be in touch. Would be great to work together to get you started!
Just discovered this instrument yesterday. I am in love with the A Integral. Waiting for it to go on sale or find a used one. Any suggestions for finding one that is second hand? Great vid!
Welcome to the Rav journey! A highly addictive hobby Second hand is a little harder to come by, but they are having a sale currently on some scale and j do have a discount code, REWILD on their US and international site.
A integral is a great choice and if you are in the market for lessons, I offer weekly 1:1 classes for people all over the world! Vastdrum.com or ravvast.com are their primary sites.
I really like mine, but also I like marmara, g pygmy and golden gate!
They are all amazing! Maybe the G pygmy will be next :)
I have a Quint Art D Celtic minor and I do find it really difficult to produce clear upper notes! What scale would you recommend to pair it with D Celtic minor? I would like to play with my son. Thanks!
I appreciate your videos. ...Im looking at the G Pygmy, or the G Pygmy 432 Hz version. Im not sure how much diffrence this makes. Any advice please?
Hey my friend. Montreal difference, other than being slightly lower pitched and not being able to play with most instruments. I love the story of 432hz tuning, but as a performer, prefer 440, as this is the standard tuning for all instruments.
That said, if you like it, are interested in sound healing/ etc, 432 may be a good fit!
What are your thoughts on the D Celtic Minor for a novice player with zero experience regarding percussive rhythms or melodic diads, triads, and progression/resolution? It's the scale I've had my eye on for the last year because of the mellower sound I feel like it has. Hoping to get one for Yule this year.
It’s a lovely scale, all things said about the b Celtic, apply to the D. It just has smaller notes and it pitched a bit higher! The only deterrent I have heard is right some people, initially have a hard time with striking it. It is the same technique as the rest of the Rav family though, so should not take long to master 🙏🎶 Thanks for watching!
Oh wow, thank you for the video. And I am so drawn to the B Celtic. Because I’ll be using it mainly for meditative purposes. Although, pardon me for the silly question, what is the difference between the Rav Vast (steel tongue drum was it?) and the Rav Pan / Hand Pan? And for the meditative purposes would you recommend the Vast or Pan?
Hello Aga! Many people use the Rav for meditative playing. What most are looking for is a long sustain, and some handpans have this. The rav, however has especially warm and long lasting sound. Ravs are instruments that use cut tongues to make sound. Their size and weight determine the notes. Handpans are essentially Caribbean steel drums, turned upside down, that is compression of the tone fields to create sound.
If you do go with either one, be in touch! I offer I lessons for people from beginners to advanced 🙏 Rewildyoursoulmusic @ gmail . Com is my email.
Welcome to the journey!
@@ReWildYourSoul Dear Richard, thank you so much for the enlightenment. Yes, already had the intention in mind to learn. Thank you again so much. Will stay in touch :)
Thanks for the great info! How long do they hold their tuning and how do you retune when needed?
Good question! They are never out of tune ;) Ravs are primarily tuned via the size of the tongue. I have never needed to retune any of my Ravs, even after 6 years! that is one of the many great things about them!
Wow!! You are incredible. Makes me want to get one. How long did it take you to get pretty decent?
Hey beauty! It depends on you if you have some musical/rhythm experience and feeling.
just have to find the right scale for you!
Do you think it is a good option to take a d Celtic minor instead b Celtic ?
Hi! Thank you for your video! I am hesitating between the B celtic and the B kurd.. I have played percussions for more than 10 years and I would like to use my rav vast for meditation and also during my yoga classes during savasana. Do you have more advices?
Thanks a lot!
Yes, absolutely! I Think the B celtic is a great fit or yoga as well. The B kurd is more oriented towards songwriting, so it all depends on the objective. Both will work nicely, so definitely recommend picking the one between the two you resonate most with! Feel free to be in touch when you get one if you are in need of any lessons! :)
@@ReWildYourSoul thank you for your quick and nice answer 🙏🏻. The more I listen to both, the more I love the B kurd.. The vibes make my heart beat increase sooo much.. 🤩
Do you have tips on where to buy a RAV? I’ve been listening to this style of music for a while and would love to get my own to try to learn with. There’s just something about percussive instruments that’s fascinating and really draws me in.
Ravvast.com or vastdrum.com are their primary sites. Through resellers, they are often a bit more. Glad you enjoy my music! 🙏🎶
What do you think about the D scale
Thank you for the comparison. I am interested in more meditative music and I am a music illiterate. Therefore I am searching for something very easy to begin with.
Would you rather recommend the B Celtic or the G Pygmy?
Thank you
Those would be great choices! These instruments are really designed from someone to pick up and play with no experience. I mostly play by ear anyways, so if can be developed! 🙏
Am a professional percussionist and really like having options. Unfortunately it's quite difficult to own and transport a number of these pans and be as creative as I want to be? The long note resonance seems to require careful choices when playing in large band setting. It can fill quite a bit of space in a musical piece? I currently play recorded hang drum samples via percussion synthesizers. I can modify timbre, pitch, resonance, etc., however I often wonder what playing the real instrument would be like? Where I live there are rarely any handpans for me to audition. I've found a RamVast Pigmy I'll be able to audition in the near future. Your thoughts on how versatile it would be in a five piece band setting? Really appreciate the info provided in your videos. Thanks for sharing!!
There are many synth options, but I perform professionally all over and usually carry 15 while traveling in a tiny car, so doable!
What set of microphones are you using? Thank You! You can make any scale sound good!
Thanks so much! A mix of a zoom H6 XY mic and a gopro 7! Easiest simple solution for outdoors!
what about the 432 hz for first choice?
I'm looking for a great scale for meditation and sound healing. I already own a handpan in D-Kurd but i love the RAV vAST. What would be a great addition to my handpan. I really don't want to get another D celtic since i already have the D kurd. What would you recommend as a beginner for meditation/yoga nidra? Thank you fr your advise. Also i'm in doubt about the 432 vs 440 hz .
Hey there! I think G Pygmy or B celtic would be perfect! The D celtic Rav vast is a bit higher than the other scales, so I think meditative play is better suited to the B celtic. Would love to work together if you need any lessons on your journey! As for 432, I would honestly just go for 440. I like the theory behind it, but it makes playing with others more difficult, and for those with perfect pitch, such as myself, they just always sound out of tune haha. Best of luck!
@@ReWildYourSoul thank you for helping me out on that regards. Made me doubt again as i'm truly a fan of the d celtic and that's what raV recommends for sound healing. Although the b celtic sounds very good as well
What’s the name of the last rav and where can I by him
What about the E Pygmy for a beginner? I gravitate toward lower pitch, Earth tones, and it was described as good for meditations and sound healing?
Hey there! Yes it is a good place to start in terms of scale, just not a good percussion player instrument, because the notes are so resonant. For meditation and songwriting playing (like my music) it is perfect!
Pretty much all the comments about the G Pygmy apply, as they are the same scale in a lower key!
If you get one, feel free to use my 10% off at checkout if you want. The code is REWILD 🎶
I picked up a backstar d Celtic.. and.. clearly it doesn't sound nearly as good as these.. and much less expensive..( I reeeeeeally wish you could demonstrate this drum or type so I can see if it's possible to make it sound good..( I have another couple weeks to return it if I change my mind and there's such a short demonstration.. and that's all anywhere.. like 30 second s.....I'm not sure if I should just send this back and spend the expensive price for a much better sound of drum..the toungues sounds pretty good I suppose but idk know I wish I could hear someone experienced make it sound good so I know if it's possible..bc if it is..I can use it at least to practice while saving up or deciding slowly what exact drum and scale to spend the much higher price on .I spent soooooo many hours listening to different scales keys drums .. these ravs..the pan drums novas
Happy drums..I thought this one bc it's the biggest for the price and I thought bigger would give lower notes Wich I love..but I'm pretty far from really sounding good and as I said if I could hear someone who plays amazingly well make this sound good..it would give me more incentive to try..( too many options..) if you find the time..I'd appreciate a response advice so to speak..) if not I know you're really busy thank you!!
I love my D sabye. Can you recommended something to pair with it or contrast
I think the Kurd is a great compliment to it! For something completely different the G Pygmy is a great one as well!
Thanks for the great videos. I like the sound of the b Kurd. Would you say it’s only slightly harder than b Celtic or is a lot more difficult?
Not at all
You make choice greetz frm Holland
@@boven110 I picked the b Kurd. Love it. :)
@@Bphilie1hi, it’s difficoult to play the rav vast? 😊
@@andreamonticelli3076I don’t think it’s hard. I’ve been playing mine for awhile now. It’s pretty easy to get use to.
Are they tuned at 432 or 440 ? Or is that even a thing w these drums obviously I know little about music ty
They are typically tuned 440, but can be custom made in 432. You will just be limited in your ability to play with others, because most instruments are created in 440. Hope that helps! Either one, you would love 🎶
I cant decide between the B Kurd or the G pygmy... i like the having many options and i dont want to be limited and thats kinda important to me. Im not planning on playing with other musicians im just gonna play it by myself. I just cant seem to decide. Which one would you recommend?
I would go with the B Kurd in that case, simply because it has a more diverse chordal movement for percussion and melodic playing. Either way, you will love what you get! Haha 😂 Best of luck my friend! If you need anything be in touch!
Hey Martin did you buy already? i have both now and have input.
@@Fahmbo Hi Ajua, I'm totally new to this instrument and was hoping you could share what made you get into rav vasts? and what made you keep coming back as you bought another one. I would totally buy one already however its a bit pricy and thus wanted you help deciding if its worth investing in. Thanks alot in advance!!
@@Fahmbo do you think you could maybe make a comparison video? I am looking to get my first RAV and am still learning about the differences
I went to a festival once, and Matthew here brought them! They sound wonderful never go out of tune and are comparably affordable to a hangpan.
I also loved the design of the cutout- its very I dunno ethereal? Transcendant?
Do different notes vibrate longer/shorter than others?? My C4 note vibrates shorter than my D4 note..
All depends on the scaled ;)
Where can I buy the Rav Drum B Celtic kurd that you recomment?
Kurd!
For a beginner who wants the most diversity. Should I go with the b Kurd?
B Kurd is a great place to start, essentially the same as the B celtic, with one extra note :) I highly recommend both, but I personally write more on the Kurd. I have a discount code, REWILD for 10% off on their site, if you get one! Be in touch if you are in the mood for 1:1 lessons when you get started as well!
Love my G Pygmy…what scale(s) would you pair with it?
It works well with the E low, A integral and G minor pentatonic! 🎶🙏
@@ReWildYourSoul Thank you, Ricky!💗
@@charlarge3555 you are very welcome! 🙏🎶 I think the integral in particular would be a cool one to work with!
@@ReWildYourSoul 👍🏻🙏🏻
Is there one you'd recommend for playing with native flutes?
Yes! B Celtic or Kurd works well with B minor and F# minor flutes.
G pentatonic is just a g minor scale, so works with all g flutes.
Kurd has the most potential for variety between the three of them.
If you pick on up eventually, do use my discount code REWILD on their site!
@ReWildYourSoul thank you! ✌️😎
I have been wanting to purchase a RAV vast 2 since spring 2021, and I still have not found a single place from where they can be purchased. Also, since I believe RAV is a Russian company...now I *seriously* doubt anyone can purchase one. I WOULD LOVE TO BE WRONG. Help?
There are quite a number to sites that sell them. Ravvast.com is their official site, vastdrum.com is their US reseller. Also didge project in NYC is a reseller as well. They are still shipping normally from Russia! They no longer differentiate the Rav vast and the Tav vast 2, so you will not see if references on their sites.
If you get one, feel free to use my discount code REWILD to save 7% on their sites. I also offer online lessons when it arrives 🎶 best of luck!
Is g minor pentatonic an ok scale for a beginner? I just chose it because I like the sound most
Absolutely! One of the easiest scales, and if you connect with it, you will do well! If you need lessons when it arrives, be in touch 😉🎶🙏
How do I contact you for lessons / what are your rates?
@@danielsutherland2152 Rewildyoursoulmusic @ Gmail . Com 🎶
I left my rav vast g pygamy in conservatory on a hot day and it sounds different have I de tuned it ? 😢
Pretty unlikely! How hot was it? It could have been the glue has separated the two halves of the instrument, will you send me a recording? I can help you reach out to Rav as well if we need to 🎶🙏 my email is Rewildyoursoulmusic@gmail.com
Will it impact on tuning ? It sounds different 😢
@@deedee99ist if you send me a video, I can check it out, I have never experienced one going out of tune is the last 7 years of playing them. Feel free to email me a video of it. Is it an old one or new?
@@deedee99ist happy to try and help!
I feel like I may have become interested in a Rav, at the worst time possible. I don't know if Rav will be available outside of Russia.
They are indeed! Still available on their site. There are also a few resellers, but easier to order directly.
@@ReWildYourSoul That is wonderful to hear! Thank you for the fast response!!!
What about the Arabic scales?
Love those as well! Many percussionists prefer them!
@@ReWildYourSoul do you think it's a good idea to start with them for a novice player?
I have a hexatonic kosmosky which feels very limiting
Do I have to get a piercing to play one of these ;)
Not a requirement, but a recommendation 😉😂🙏
Is that the b Celtic minor or major?
I explain all the scale names in the video sections, B celtic, B Kurd, G pygmy and A integral are in here!
@@ReWildYourSoul I just didn’t hear if it was minor or major. But I see minor is the one everyone uses. I’m new to this world. I’m definitely going to buy one. Just trying to figure out which one. I understand why you suggest b Kurd or the celtic. But the g Pygmy is a bit deeper sounding to my un trained ears. And I like that one
@@BradenEarly g Pygmy is also fantastic! It really depends on what you connect with, I have students who start of with some of the harder scales and pick it up immediately. My suggestion is to listen to aims a tusly music on each scale (I have tons of songs on here and on Lux Natura album by Rewildyoursoul on Spotify and iTunes ) then pick which works!
@@BradenEarly Here are some examples! th-cam.com/video/0h7JJvSuB4Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ReWildYourSoul
th-cam.com/video/iJEbxfaKeb0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ReWildYourSoul
th-cam.com/video/o2BFaZst0XA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ReWildYourSoul
@@BradenEarly Feel free to send me an email if you need any particular help or comparisons. Would be happy to help! I work with Rav creating content and reviews as well, so plenty on their channel as well. My email is rewildyoursoulmusic at gmail . com
It seems more like a demonstration of your skills rather than a lesson. Too fast for a beginner I think
Glad they were impressive! I have about 100 other lessons in a playlist, if you are looking for something in particular! Check back a few weeks or a month and you will find lessons, this is not a lesson, but a conversation and demo of various playing styles. Thanks for the compliment, however! 🙏🎶