There is billions the best can earn... thats why you got massive companies investing so heavily in AI and the like, as any investment will be offset by the final product. Don't think it will work perfectly in the future, but likely for small studios, it will be a massive help, or even for people needing models to better describe or display their product or service; imagine architects making models from floorplans or a DIY programmer making a stylized shell for their project, simply using a Core model with the thread holes and air vents as a reference to be built into the core.
I’m speechless at how trash the models are, and that the one good one has a fanatical catholic fear of any hint of a naked human body, and sees nudity in a... benchy. 😮😂
@@canadiangemstones7636 it used to be impossible, which the fact it can produce stuff of even that quality is the shocking part. Sure its bad by actual standards, but you know how little work actually went into it? There is a reason large companies like google are investing billions into AI generative development... its a several billion dollar industry.
@@SCHOOLERstyle AI will be really really usefull for creating Quick, generic stuff such as Chests, tree trunk, etc but still requires fixing up, but horrible for making anything important like Characters, ETC
I loved your video. Can’t believe how good the best version was. Also you gave me an excellent introduction to tools I was completely unaware of, given my 3D printing journey only began two weeks ago. Excellent work. Thanks.
I think you're underestimating how much it's already being used in big productions. The only difference is that right now it's still less effort to dive in the free library models to make shovelware games. That's why they're commonly Known as asset dumps. But really that doesn't matter. They're not real games. It's generally just a form of scam. Those games don't hire anyone to do anything anyways. Big studios have already done a ton of their layoffs a couple years ago in reaction to this tech becoming available to them... It's not the future, it's now. My personal hope is that we see indie become strongly empowered by these tools and can fill the gap left by increasingly uninspired big studio productions with some bigger scale gems despite not having all the resources. Because that's how the market is supposed to work. A small nimble newcomer is supposed to be able to displace large slow moving existing companies
6:32 this already seems impossibly good to me wtf. It actually interprets what the image SHOULD be in 3D exactly as you'd expect. 12:50 THIS is more what i thought would be the best we could get. Blobs, random wrinkles, dudes melting into chairs, etc. I'm always astonished with how fast progress is being made in this field
Thanks for testing Meshy! We've recently updated the Hard Surface Mode in Image to 3D. This enhancement significantly improves the mesh quality of hard surface models, making them ideal for 3D printing. We invite you to try it out and share your feedback!
Hey Meshy, thanks very much for getting in touch. I've loved your setup since I started using it in prep for my previous video on 3D Generative AI. I'll definitely be playing with the updated to your service and I'll be covering it in future videos. It's great that it sounds like you're actively working to improve your tool for use with 3D printing so I look forward to hearing more about that.
I don't have the time to finish this video, but I hope I find it free or at least free to try out without giving out card numbers. definitely a awesome use of AI
really impressed with rodin, i have been waiting for some time to have good high quality 3d models from text and/or images. i will be playing with this for certain.
Thanks, very nice test and you wend through the complete process including printing the models. I learned a lot from this, and I am sure going to give these AI generators a try.
At least on Cura and probably other slicers you don't need to cut objects that aren't flat to get a flat surface for printing. Simply set the orientation to the way up you want then set the z head to a small negative, any part of the model below the xy plane gets cut at that point when slicing and will have a flat bottom...yet I've seen so many people say to get round this by cutting models in mesh mixer...unless you're sharing it on for others that don't know this trick don't waste your time!
I'm not surprised they struggled with the word stetson, it's not a word we use much in the US, and if in theory their training data was mostly US -english centric then it would be a word not represented much.
I appreciate the intro so much. The matter of originality has been bothering me in the back of my mind as I was thinking of using AI generation for my 3D model generation.
Wonderful video - again! Thank You! I love your tempo, your style, your way of explaining… It is •Just Very Good• ! And… the content is very interesting and has top value as well. Subscribed ☺️
I can't wait for the inevitable rain of garbage AI Model flooding printables and thingaverse with comments like. I made this cool thing. Give me points for free filament.
Can't wait for the flood of regurgitated gen AI content on Fortnite & Roblox custom maps.Easy access to so much content that took no actual input or creative thought behind it is something i find incredibly boring.
I agree to disagree: Symbolic AI (of Alan Turing type) manipulates symbols according to rules or constraints to generate valid original combinations (new output)… Anyway your video is original and quite interesting!
Thanks for the video . Question.. do any of the products tested have the ability to separate objects. Like you robot on the throne. So you could separate the throne from the robot for better printing. Thanks.
brilliant neutral video with great informative comparison! probably the companies who you compared are looking this clip to get a better understanding where they are in terms of competition.
So Rodin goes: text to image -> image to text, but then what model is it feeding into to make the actual 3d object? The first 2 parts are very easy but that last bit is something I haven't seen. Some sort of photogrammetry engine would be my guess. Anyone know?
Interesting video, thanks. ive just generated my first model using meshy image to model, but first i generated the image via AI using microsoft image maker. Its printing now. I need to figure out how to get the image maker to give me images of the same subject from different angles and use them in the rhodin? ai modeling program to see if i can get better detail. At 60 years of age, its certainly "interesting times" !
That's not actually a box, it's a Google TV remote holder. However the concept can be adapted for anything which is what I did when creating that. The concept of a push, click system is nothing new. I did a dedicated video on that a few years ago that you can find here ; th-cam.com/video/K9tCMbt6WkA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rJzWw8dhgQ87XNwl And you can download the STL from here: makerworld.com/models/66021
These AI tools can be fun to play with, but are nowhere near a replacement for manually designed models, especially for practical purposes. Learning how to design stuff yourself will increase the personal value of your 3D printer by orders of magnitude. She should definitely learn Fusion if possible
I think there is a long way till 3d ai model have a real life usage but im looking forward to having an ai add-on in blender like the adobe firefly in photoshop
Thanks for the review of the different applications. It looks like Rodin generates significantly better models. Does anyone know of a photo ai app that can generate multiple views of the same object so it can be used in Rodin?
Kleenex is also a brand, but it is also a generic word for 'thinly sliced dead tree for making funny nose noises'. Everyone knows what is meant, even if you aren't literally talking about the specific brand. Where I live in the US, if you say a 'Stetson', everyone will assume you mean 'cowboy hat'. I would see where that it is leap of logic for some contexts, but on a trained model, I would think it would pick up on the colloquial use of the term.
I covered Tripo quite a bit in my previous video on 3D generative AI. As for CSM, I find the user interface is glitchy and problematic. Plus, the free version quotes over 50 hours wait for a single generation, and even the paid version quotes 2 minutes which is slower than the free version of most of the ones featured in this video. It's something I will address in the future but I didn't think it had anything to contribute for this video.
For a feature they haven't done yet. It seems like there is big room for improvement on the quest home environment. Right now these are just pointless spaces, it would be nice to have portals and interfaces that take the place of boring menu mechanics ported from tablets and phones. Especially with AI integration. Perhaps I want to ask a magic well or mirror to summon a game or a Horizon space or maybe I want to use hand gestures to cast spells to open portals into different apps and games both horizon and 3rd party. Let us customize the space and have persistance. Also move apps which aren't currently installed into a menu within the apps screen you must open on purpose if they aren't going to let us remove them!
Unfortunately Rodin Gen1 needs a subscription to be able to add multiple images for multiview or fusion. It also limited the polygon count for free accounts.
You can. You just have to have hardware capable of running the models. In the case of Rodin they likely have servers running some H100's because that generation was very fast.
Amazing video comparing the models! I would say if you still have your account 3D AI Studio does have a Beta version of their new model that is available under tools! Its better and more on par with Rodin :) Think you should give that a go as well!!
Really glad you enjoyed the video. Yes I am going to be playing more with 3D AI studio as I've got another couple of weeks on my account with them. However, interestingly it looks like the reason their output is getting better (and "more on par with Rodin) is because it seems that 3D AI Studio are now using Deemos Techs API: x.com/DeemosTech/status/1813634728316268868
Thanks for the video! Great info. One thing is that you erroneously call the hat a Stetson. Stetson is a brand and they make cowboy hats and other styles too. ;-)
@3drevolution I've had issues with it not generating the original image. Has anyone run into this? Example: I created a text input similar to the video with a figure on a throne. Looks great and hit generate. It would then leave out the whole throne or a portion of it or even a portion of the figure. Could never get it to generate the whole original image it created. I'm using the free account to start so not sure if that's why.
Altering the text after it generated the image does not make any difference here. "a elephant on a motorbike" changed to "a duck on a motorbike" generates the exact same image...
Haha, I usually manually go through the CCs of my videos and correct any errors or clean them up to be easier to read before I upload them, must have missed this one. So what I'll say there is, DND can be spelled however you want it to be spelled :)
I tried all of them and none of the mesh that were generated are usable to me. The images that are being generated are getting very good but the mesh are so bad. I have not seen any improvements in the results since your last video. Try with prompt "Medieval round shield with detailed engravings" and you will see.
My neighbour asked me the other day "Why would I spend money on any AI-created product when I know I can generate mine just as easily?". Watching this video, those words are starting to sink in. Can't wait for these tools to get even better.
I think your attitude to copyright and IP needs a lot more careful thought. There is nothing wrong with derivative works but there is a lot that is wrong in how the data used to train these AI has been obtained. The whole tech industry needs an ethics overhaul. Everything from privacy, copyright and T&C that continuously change needs close attention from government and lawmakers.
1:50 well its not original because its not creative. When you make things you are using some kind of inspiration, but that filters through the meat sack in your brain, and along with your experiences and your own unique perspective makes something original. A computer is purely mathematical calculations, weights and averages. That means that it will always generate something unoriginal. Here's how you can test this, ask any LLM to write a story, dont specify the setting but say it features anthropomorphic animals. And see that it has a forest setting. Now ask 10 real people the same prompt, and see how many of them put it in a forest setting.
I wish you tested it making more than sweet little dolls for little girls. Like have it make a phone case and a make a bracket or something..utilitarian.
I chose the tests I did because I understand the current limitations of this software. You can't (at least at the time I produced this video) prompt for dimensional accurancy. Creating a phone case that would explicitly fit the shape and dimensions of a specific phone, or a bracket that would fit a specific thing would just not have worked. As these tools get more refined, that will be more the sort of things that I test. Have a wonderful Friday, a wonderful weekend, and a wonderful life.
In the past there has been services that have claimed to be ai model generation but actually is a real person outsourced to model the object. I’m suspicious about some if these.
I'd be impressed if they had enough people skilled enough to manually design pretty detailed 3D models of anything a user requests in a matter of seconds, and capable of keeping up with the level of users using their service.
3d ai studio is worthless. cant even see what it can do without forking over 15 bucks. all of these failed my voronoi balogna test. copilot passed but it wont give you a model
Great quote by Mark Twain. Evolution itself is literally copying. Plus if you believe in gods and deities they evolved their creations as well. It's not like everyone was created at all at once. Hell the universe itself is constantly evolving and largely somewhat copying previous iterations of closely the same things with minor adaptations along the way.
As someone who sculpts my own character prints, these things produce such godawful meshes that most of the time it is faster to genuinely build them from scratch. I've used generated images as references and been able to produce some great stuff, but these meshes barely even get the proportions right, let alone any details. More often than not you're better off just taking an image and building the model with primitives. The "robot king" is still 95% just rectangles, cylinders and spheres stacked on top of each other, with a little bit of proportional editing. I'm sure at some point these tools will get around to a point where they'll actually create some useful geometry for printing, but these products are nowhere near that. The 10-20 hours it takes to learn the basics of any free modeling software will leave you with a lot more options and far better models than any of these generated dumpster fires.
While some of what you say is true. Making your own from scratch would be in some ways easier. A LOT of people don't have the 10 hours to put in just to learn how to use a modeling program much less to actually make the models. I think for a lot of people this is a dream of "I have this idea in my head and I want to see it come to life." that's pretty much what 3D printing is all about. If people have the brain power and the time to learn how to 3D model their own things it is a 100% worth it if you're a 3D printer enthusiast But recognize that this is not something the is in everyone's wheelhouse. And people are looking for a tool that will help them overcome this.
I am definitely looking forward to this being released to, though I think it's interesting and worth noting that in Metas own paper on this subject (ai.meta.com/research/publications/meta-3d-gen/), they reference Rodin Gen1 a lot, in comparison to their own platform and other AI mesh generators. Even in the first table detailing the capabilities of these platforms (top of page 5), they identify Rodin Gen 1 capable of generating clean topology, where as none of the others, including their own Meta 3D Gen, are capable of this. Meta 3D Gen does win out over Rodin Gen1 in that specific table in time taken however. As I say, I'm excited to get stuck into this. Though being in the UK, I know there will likely be a delay before we receive it. Meta have said they will be releasing their various AI platforms in the UK immnently, unlike the rest of Europe, but there is still going to be a bit of a wait I think,
The very first result on Google when I search "mark twain no such thing as a new idea", is a page on the 'Good Reads' site (www.goodreads.com/quotes/843880-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-new-idea-it) which states that full line I read in the video as being a quote directly from Mark Twains autobiography: www.goodreads.com/book/show/7526366-mark-twain-s-own-autobiography. There's also thousands of references in every other google result I get, I'm not quite sure why you're only seeing recent references.
Honestly, give it about 5-10 years, and we'll see the AI 3D models look so good that game developers and filmmakers will be capable of using them in video games and cinematics.
I don't believe I ever specified that for this one. My previous video that compared AI 3D model generators was exclusively using free ones, but as I state in this video, that's not the case here. At the time of recording, as I say in this video, all but one of the tools I use here are available to use for free in some capacity, and the one except for that was simply to see if paying for a premium exclusive platform would give significantly better results.
the samples you show here are really really bad. not a single one produced an actual cowboy hat. from on 3d printing stand point almost nothing is really useable or acceptable.
I have a bit of a look at Luma in one of my earlier videos (th-cam.com/video/GVd5vcMDfVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=woeo5vSoBjpoipVA) but I'll be taking a closer look at it's gen abilities soon.
Maybe it’s me but all these ai tools no matter the specialization are crap. They all seem like unfinished early stage prototypes that produce lackluster results but somehow feel entitled to charge for their services. Finish and polish your damn products ai evangelist. All these weird companies just rushing to get to market without realizing crappy products will lose more customers than being early to market will attract. Maybe I’m old and surly but all the ai is overhyped and gimmicky at best…
Im not against AI to help buuuutttt be real be real about it! I draw anime and i used AI to draw my image for my profile why? i dont have the time and 2ed the creativity for a drawing just doesn't come... ill literally sit there on my graphics tablet and i hit the undo button so many times that i would save so so much time for my projects and my everyday life. Im not a machine 😂 nore do i ever wanna be.
Well clearly from my accent I'm from the UK where no one wears a 'cowboy' hat outside of fancy dress. And much like Bic, dumpster, and tupperwear, which are each synonymous with the items they represent, "Stetson" is commonly used here interchangably to refer to that style of hat.
This is degrading, quoting mark twain does not absolve your complicity of the numerous data sets that have been made by scraping artists work without artists consent.
Using prompts doesn't make you an artist. AI is for the "idea man". people who have ideas but lack the skill to follow through with them. I lack skill there for rely heavily on other people's files. This technology takes real peoples art and remakes it.
Im speechless how fast this is progressing.
I just finished reading a series of Reddit posts from last year claiming this "might happen in our lifetimes."
There is billions the best can earn... thats why you got massive companies investing so heavily in AI and the like, as any investment will be offset by the final product. Don't think it will work perfectly in the future, but likely for small studios, it will be a massive help, or even for people needing models to better describe or display their product or service; imagine architects making models from floorplans or a DIY programmer making a stylized shell for their project, simply using a Core model with the thread holes and air vents as a reference to be built into the core.
I’m speechless at how trash the models are, and that the one good one has a fanatical catholic fear of any hint of a naked human body, and sees nudity in a... benchy. 😮😂
@@canadiangemstones7636 it used to be impossible, which the fact it can produce stuff of even that quality is the shocking part. Sure its bad by actual standards, but you know how little work actually went into it? There is a reason large companies like google are investing billions into AI generative development... its a several billion dollar industry.
I think it is safe to say that I’ll be sticking to Rodin
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
Yes Rodin is crazy acurate and symmetrical mesh. It's just INSANE. And it's just the beginning.
@@SCHOOLERstyleand nobody gives a fuck. :)
@@SCHOOLERstyle AI will be really really usefull for creating Quick, generic stuff such as Chests, tree trunk, etc but still requires fixing up, but horrible for making anything important like Characters, ETC
Rodin is insanely impressive
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
@@SCHOOLERstyleyea, just a trash YT channel.
I loved your video. Can’t believe how good the best version was. Also you gave me an excellent introduction to tools I was completely unaware of, given my 3D printing journey only began two weeks ago. Excellent work. Thanks.
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
The fact that one of them offered a riggable character makes me wonder how many low budget games will use AI generated characters in the near future
We might even skip past that straight to playing real time AI generated video as a game.
@@jaredf6205 you're completely missing my point. Congratulations
@@catdisc5304 how
@@jaredf6205He's not positive about the outcome...
I think you're underestimating how much it's already being used in big productions.
The only difference is that right now it's still less effort to dive in the free library models to make shovelware games. That's why they're commonly Known as asset dumps. But really that doesn't matter. They're not real games. It's generally just a form of scam. Those games don't hire anyone to do anything anyways. Big studios have already done a ton of their layoffs a couple years ago in reaction to this tech becoming available to them... It's not the future, it's now.
My personal hope is that we see indie become strongly empowered by these tools and can fill the gap left by increasingly uninspired big studio productions with some bigger scale gems despite not having all the resources.
Because that's how the market is supposed to work. A small nimble newcomer is supposed to be able to displace large slow moving existing companies
6:32 this already seems impossibly good to me wtf. It actually interprets what the image SHOULD be in 3D exactly as you'd expect.
12:50 THIS is more what i thought would be the best we could get. Blobs, random wrinkles, dudes melting into chairs, etc.
I'm always astonished with how fast progress is being made in this field
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
Thanks for testing Meshy! We've recently updated the Hard Surface Mode in Image to 3D. This enhancement significantly improves the mesh quality of hard surface models, making them ideal for 3D printing. We invite you to try it out and share your feedback!
Hey Meshy, thanks very much for getting in touch.
I've loved your setup since I started using it in prep for my previous video on 3D Generative AI.
I'll definitely be playing with the updated to your service and I'll be covering it in future videos.
It's great that it sounds like you're actively working to improve your tool for use with 3D printing so I look forward to hearing more about that.
I don't have the time to finish this video, but I hope I find it free or at least free to try out without giving out card numbers. definitely a awesome use of AI
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
@@SCHOOLERstyle @SCHOOLERstyle, I’ve subscribed to your channel! I hope you can share tips on creating videos and making amazing 3D content.
really impressed with rodin, i have been waiting for some time to have good high quality 3d models from text and/or images. i will be playing with this for certain.
I create better 3D models on my channel than any of this AI generate JUNK! 💪
@@SCHOOLERstyle cool, but i SUCK at making 3d models, so i want an AI that can make them for me.
Thanks, very nice test and you wend through the complete process including printing the models. I learned a lot from this, and I am sure going to give these AI generators a try.
I am really liking rodin! Never heard of it until I saw this video so thank you.
Happy to help!
At least on Cura and probably other slicers you don't need to cut objects that aren't flat to get a flat surface for printing. Simply set the orientation to the way up you want then set the z head to a small negative, any part of the model below the xy plane gets cut at that point when slicing and will have a flat bottom...yet I've seen so many people say to get round this by cutting models in mesh mixer...unless you're sharing it on for others that don't know this trick don't waste your time!
I'm not surprised they struggled with the word stetson, it's not a word we use much in the US, and if in theory their training data was mostly US -english centric then it would be a word not represented much.
"cowboy hat" would have been the verbiage to use instead of Stetson which is a brand of hat not a style in the US, at least.
Unfortunately it's not a Texas-centric vocabulary. 😢
Stetson is a very well known brand of cowboy hat, especially in the Southern US.
Wow dude just the opening mechanism is awesome.
Very cool. So glad you made this!
I appreciate the intro so much. The matter of originality has been bothering me in the back of my mind as I was thinking of using AI generation for my 3D model generation.
Wonderful video - again! Thank You!
I love your tempo, your style, your way of explaining… It is •Just Very Good• !
And… the content is very interesting and has top value as well.
Subscribed ☺️
I can't wait for the inevitable rain of garbage AI Model flooding printables and thingaverse with comments like. I made this cool thing. Give me points for free filament.
Can't wait for the flood of regurgitated gen AI content on Fortnite & Roblox custom maps.Easy access to so much content that took no actual input or creative thought behind it is something i find incredibly boring.
If it's cool, it's not garbage.
@@Kotka1986 I'd rather use AI to make some simple things for a roblox game than just use some random shit from the library like most games do.
They should make a separate website for ai print like an ai thing verse or something
@@lexdysic416 Don't see you making better models. 👀
I agree to disagree: Symbolic AI (of Alan Turing type) manipulates symbols according to rules or constraints to generate valid original combinations (new output)…
Anyway your video is original and quite interesting!
Thanks for the video . Question.. do any of the products tested have the ability to separate objects. Like you robot on the throne. So you could separate the throne from the robot for better printing. Thanks.
brilliant neutral video with great informative comparison! probably the companies who you compared are looking this clip to get a better understanding where they are in terms of competition.
Thank you very much for sharing. I really appreciate you and your videos/tutorials!
Great video! I’ve been dealing with ai tools to generate stls a bit, Rodin is really amazing!
So Rodin goes: text to image -> image to text, but then what model is it feeding into to make the actual 3d object? The first 2 parts are very easy but that last bit is something I haven't seen. Some sort of photogrammetry engine would be my guess. Anyone know?
Points just for quoting Twain!
Interesting video, thanks. ive just generated my first model using meshy image to model, but first i generated the image via AI using microsoft image maker. Its printing now. I need to figure out how to get the image maker to give me images of the same subject from different angles and use them in the rhodin? ai modeling program to see if i can get better detail. At 60 years of age, its certainly "interesting times" !
where can i find the push latch box in the video at 1:15
That's not actually a box, it's a Google TV remote holder. However the concept can be adapted for anything which is what I did when creating that. The concept of a push, click system is nothing new.
I did a dedicated video on that a few years ago that you can find here ;
th-cam.com/video/K9tCMbt6WkA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=rJzWw8dhgQ87XNwl
And you can download the STL from here:
makerworld.com/models/66021
I might give Rodin try
Absolutely loved your video. Thank you. Liked, commented and subscribed!!!!!
Awesome! Thank you! Really glad you liked the video.
Rodin took all the golds here, it created the best-looking models, the best textures and neater meshes. Plus it did it faster.
this video is gold❤
I design something similar to the thing at 1:16 but one piece print in place with the spring included.
Just bought my daughter a bambu X1c. Do I have her learn fusion 360 or are these AI tools good enough yet?
These AI tools can be fun to play with, but are nowhere near a replacement for manually designed models, especially for practical purposes.
Learning how to design stuff yourself will increase the personal value of your 3D printer by orders of magnitude. She should definitely learn Fusion if possible
what are you using to inspect models?
The slicer I was using is Bambu Studio, but I may have also opened them occasionally in Autodesk's Mesh Mixer
Please compare it to Tripo 2.0, I think its even better
I think there is a long way till 3d ai model have a real life usage but im looking forward to having an ai add-on in blender like the adobe firefly in photoshop
SF3D , TripoSR , Unique3d , InstantMesh all open source can run locally on gpu with 24gb vram
Thanks for the review of the different applications. It looks like Rodin generates significantly better models. Does anyone know of a photo ai app that can generate multiple views of the same object so it can be used in Rodin?
I really want to be able to use a 3D model for the style.
I got some mods I want to make to some stls I already own.
SUBSCRIBED!!! 👍👍👍 IT SHOULD OF HAPPENED SOONER.
Stetson is a brand not a type of hat. They make many different types of hats. Maybe you meant fedora which is a type of hat.
You don’t even need to write fedora, you can just use a descriptor.
Kleenex is also a brand, but it is also a generic word for 'thinly sliced dead tree for making funny nose noises'. Everyone knows what is meant, even if you aren't literally talking about the specific brand.
Where I live in the US, if you say a 'Stetson', everyone will assume you mean 'cowboy hat'. I would see where that it is leap of logic for some contexts, but on a trained model, I would think it would pick up on the colloquial use of the term.
you also should have used CSM and TripoAI
I covered Tripo quite a bit in my previous video on 3D generative AI.
As for CSM, I find the user interface is glitchy and problematic.
Plus, the free version quotes over 50 hours wait for a single generation, and even the paid version quotes 2 minutes which is slower than the free version of most of the ones featured in this video.
It's something I will address in the future but I didn't think it had anything to contribute for this video.
@@3DRevolution you bring a fair point, just found your content will have too look in to your Tripo cover ;)
The AI' Blueprint for the mass production / printing of AI Operared Robots / Androids is coming soon 🙃
hey dude you logo looks like yeah... turn it sideways might think a rebrand or a minor tweak to the logo its buggin me
Wow, that was a great comment about AI and humans. I totally agree!
kaedium actually blew me away .. thought rodin was the best
rodin is crazy
For a feature they haven't done yet. It seems like there is big room for improvement on the quest home environment. Right now these are just pointless spaces, it would be nice to have portals and interfaces that take the place of boring menu mechanics ported from tablets and phones. Especially with AI integration. Perhaps I want to ask a magic well or mirror to summon a game or a Horizon space or maybe I want to use hand gestures to cast spells to open portals into different apps and games both horizon and 3rd party. Let us customize the space and have persistance. Also move apps which aren't currently installed into a menu within the apps screen you must open on purpose if they aren't going to let us remove them!
Unfortunately Rodin Gen1 needs a subscription to be able to add multiple images for multiview or fusion. It also limited the polygon count for free accounts.
I dont understand why the image to 3D generated are not accepting MULTIPLE images.
Why wouldn’t they want more accurate images to build upon?
Even limiting multiple images to 5 seems unusual.
I just wish I could get a standalone software instead of that credit and monthly payment stuff
You can. You just have to have hardware capable of running the models. In the case of Rodin they likely have servers running some H100's because that generation was very fast.
Name suggestion for your horse with a mask: Mascarpone
no blinking in this video
Amazing video comparing the models! I would say if you still have your account 3D AI Studio does have a Beta version of their new model that is available under tools! Its better and more on par with Rodin :)
Think you should give that a go as well!!
Really glad you enjoyed the video.
Yes I am going to be playing more with 3D AI studio as I've got another couple of weeks on my account with them. However, interestingly it looks like the reason their output is getting better (and "more on par with Rodin) is because it seems that 3D AI Studio are now using Deemos Techs API: x.com/DeemosTech/status/1813634728316268868
Thanks for the video! Great info. One thing is that you erroneously call the hat a Stetson. Stetson is a brand and they make cowboy hats and other styles too. ;-)
@3drevolution I've had issues with it not generating the original image. Has anyone run into this? Example: I created a text input similar to the video with a figure on a throne. Looks great and hit generate. It would then leave out the whole throne or a portion of it or even a portion of the figure. Could never get it to generate the whole original image it created. I'm using the free account to start so not sure if that's why.
Altering the text after it generated the image does not make any difference here. "a elephant on a motorbike" changed to "a duck on a motorbike" generates the exact same image...
speach: „for your dnd game“
subtitle: „for your daddy game“
Yah that gave me a giggle too.
21:28 I don't think thats how DND is spelled, captions.
Haha, I usually manually go through the CCs of my videos and correct any errors or clean them up to be easier to read before I upload them, must have missed this one. So what I'll say there is, DND can be spelled however you want it to be spelled :)
Rodin is OP
good for random props
I tried all of them and none of the mesh that were generated are usable to me. The images that are being generated are getting very good but the mesh are so bad. I have not seen any improvements in the results since your last video. Try with prompt "Medieval round shield with detailed engravings" and you will see.
I'll definitely give it a try. Prompt engineering is definitely an important aspect of it.
My neighbour asked me the other day "Why would I spend money on any AI-created product when I know I can generate mine just as easily?". Watching this video, those words are starting to sink in. Can't wait for these tools to get even better.
I think your attitude to copyright and IP needs a lot more careful thought. There is nothing wrong with derivative works but there is a lot that is wrong in how the data used to train these AI has been obtained. The whole tech industry needs an ethics overhaul. Everything from privacy, copyright and T&C that continuously change needs close attention from government and lawmakers.
Horse name: Sir Lionel Maskalot the 3rd (dimension)
1:50 well its not original because its not creative. When you make things you are using some kind of inspiration, but that filters through the meat sack in your brain, and along with your experiences and your own unique perspective makes something original.
A computer is purely mathematical calculations, weights and averages. That means that it will always generate something unoriginal.
Here's how you can test this, ask any LLM to write a story, dont specify the setting but say it features anthropomorphic animals. And see that it has a forest setting.
Now ask 10 real people the same prompt, and see how many of them put it in a forest setting.
I wish you tested it making more than sweet little dolls for little girls. Like have it make a phone case and a make a bracket or something..utilitarian.
I chose the tests I did because I understand the current limitations of this software. You can't (at least at the time I produced this video) prompt for dimensional accurancy. Creating a phone case that would explicitly fit the shape and dimensions of a specific phone, or a bracket that would fit a specific thing would just not have worked. As these tools get more refined, that will be more the sort of things that I test. Have a wonderful Friday, a wonderful weekend, and a wonderful life.
In the past there has been services that have claimed to be ai model generation but actually is a real person outsourced to model the object. I’m suspicious about some if these.
I'd be impressed if they had enough people skilled enough to manually design pretty detailed 3D models of anything a user requests in a matter of seconds, and capable of keeping up with the level of users using their service.
The speed of generation makes your suspicions impossible. That's not a person, that's an H100 gpu.
That's it, I have no more job.
that hat stayed the same :P
Wheezy the safe breathing horse
Went from hylics to steamworld
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Most of these generation sites produce really crappy models. Only Meshy seems to make stuff that's realistic and useable.
3d ai studio is worthless. cant even see what it can do without forking over 15 bucks. all of these failed my voronoi balogna test. copilot passed but it wont give you a model
sad day to be a 3d modeler
Great quote by Mark Twain. Evolution itself is literally copying. Plus if you believe in gods and deities they evolved their creations as well. It's not like everyone was created at all at once. Hell the universe itself is constantly evolving and largely somewhat copying previous iterations of closely the same things with minor adaptations along the way.
Video started 3.45
Name: Mask-a-Mane or Mas-K-Raid.
As someone who sculpts my own character prints, these things produce such godawful meshes that most of the time it is faster to genuinely build them from scratch. I've used generated images as references and been able to produce some great stuff, but these meshes barely even get the proportions right, let alone any details. More often than not you're better off just taking an image and building the model with primitives. The "robot king" is still 95% just rectangles, cylinders and spheres stacked on top of each other, with a little bit of proportional editing.
I'm sure at some point these tools will get around to a point where they'll actually create some useful geometry for printing, but these products are nowhere near that. The 10-20 hours it takes to learn the basics of any free modeling software will leave you with a lot more options and far better models than any of these generated dumpster fires.
While some of what you say is true. Making your own from scratch would be in some ways easier. A LOT of people don't have the 10 hours to put in just to learn how to use a modeling program much less to actually make the models. I think for a lot of people this is a dream of "I have this idea in my head and I want to see it come to life." that's pretty much what 3D printing is all about.
If people have the brain power and the time to learn how to 3D model their own things it is a 100% worth it if you're a 3D printer enthusiast But recognize that this is not something the is in everyone's wheelhouse. And people are looking for a tool that will help them overcome this.
a Giga Farm of 3d Printers for robots 🤣
Another "prompt engineer". cool
Meta 3d Gen laughing at this. Just waiting for meta to release it
I am definitely looking forward to this being released to, though I think it's interesting and worth noting that in Metas own paper on this subject (ai.meta.com/research/publications/meta-3d-gen/), they reference Rodin Gen1 a lot, in comparison to their own platform and other AI mesh generators.
Even in the first table detailing the capabilities of these platforms (top of page 5), they identify Rodin Gen 1 capable of generating clean topology, where as none of the others, including their own Meta 3D Gen, are capable of this. Meta 3D Gen does win out over Rodin Gen1 in that specific table in time taken however.
As I say, I'm excited to get stuck into this. Though being in the UK, I know there will likely be a delay before we receive it. Meta have said they will be releasing their various AI platforms in the UK immnently, unlike the rest of Europe, but there is still going to be a bit of a wait I think,
Pls stop. I can feel my eventual career becoming less eventual
Oldest Mark Twain quote "There is no such thing..." I found internet is from 2016 and there is not much answears in search.. troll?
The very first result on Google when I search "mark twain no such thing as a new idea", is a page on the 'Good Reads' site (www.goodreads.com/quotes/843880-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-new-idea-it) which states that full line I read in the video as being a quote directly from Mark Twains autobiography: www.goodreads.com/book/show/7526366-mark-twain-s-own-autobiography.
There's also thousands of references in every other google result I get, I'm not quite sure why you're only seeing recent references.
Maskretariat? Seagasket?
Honestly, give it about 5-10 years, and we'll see the AI 3D models look so good that game developers and filmmakers will be capable of using them in video games and cinematics.
Maybe less time, I would say 5 years as max in that span
Probably a good prototype in 5 years rather than being full scale
I thought this videos was for FREE softwares
I don't believe I ever specified that for this one.
My previous video that compared AI 3D model generators was exclusively using free ones, but as I state in this video, that's not the case here.
At the time of recording, as I say in this video, all but one of the tools I use here are available to use for free in some capacity, and the one except for that was simply to see if paying for a premium exclusive platform would give significantly better results.
@@3DRevolution I will search your videos then in your home page. Thank you
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Name for the horse - Horvid = Horse + Covid🤦♂
Haha nice suggestion thanks. Unfortunately the poll ended on the weekend and the winning name is SeaGasket.
the samples you show here are really really bad. not a single one produced an actual cowboy hat. from on 3d printing stand point almost nothing is really useable or acceptable.
Any one test luma ai
I have a bit of a look at Luma in one of my earlier videos (th-cam.com/video/GVd5vcMDfVI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=woeo5vSoBjpoipVA) but I'll be taking a closer look at it's gen abilities soon.
You dont even blink
Blinking is so overrated!
Maybe it’s me but all these ai tools no matter the specialization are crap. They all seem like unfinished early stage prototypes that produce lackluster results but somehow feel entitled to charge for their services. Finish and polish your damn products ai evangelist. All these weird companies just rushing to get to market without realizing crappy products will lose more customers than being early to market will attract. Maybe I’m old and surly but all the ai is overhyped and gimmicky at best…
There is a mega hype, because companies are investing tons of money in AI, despite the not so good results.
I think you are just old and lack foresight
Rodin gen1 seems pretty good, assuming it keeps improving, it'll probably be usable in a few years.
Im not against AI to help buuuutttt be real be real about it! I draw anime and i used AI to draw my image for my profile why? i dont have the time and 2ed the creativity for a drawing just doesn't come... ill literally sit there on my graphics tablet and i hit the undo button so many times that i would save so so much time for my projects and my everyday life. Im not a machine 😂 nore do i ever wanna be.
all of these programs are based of stolen artwork and the end result looks like trash
stetson is a brand of hats? where are you from lol
Well clearly from my accent I'm from the UK where no one wears a 'cowboy' hat outside of fancy dress. And much like Bic, dumpster, and tupperwear, which are each synonymous with the items they represent, "Stetson" is commonly used here interchangably to refer to that style of hat.
This is crap so far 😂 The texture cration on Meshy seems good though.
This is degrading, quoting mark twain does not absolve your complicity of the numerous data sets that have been made by scraping artists work without artists consent.
tried that useless and waste of time
Those who complain about AI's are rocks that do not want to move to the future. It's just an assistant.. much like a slave in prehistoric time 😂
lol pass
Using prompts doesn't make you an artist. AI is for the "idea man". people who have ideas but lack the skill to follow through with them. I lack skill there for rely heavily on other people's files. This technology takes real peoples art and remakes it.