Boost performance and eliminate wires with this simple to install ignition kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2023
- Wether you are rewiring your chopper and looking to eliminate some of the bulky OEM components, or if you just need to replace your failed ignition system, this Ultima Ignition kit will do the trick! Seth goes step-by-step through the installation process of the Ultima ignition kit. Increase the performance of your Harley-Davidson with this easy to install programmable ignition.
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This minimal, simple to install kit fits all Evolution Sportsters up to 2003 and
all nose cone type Shovelhead & Evolution Big Twin motors from 1970 to 1999.
Features of the kit:
Made in the USA
Single fire Ignition
Rotor, Single Fire Coil, Control Module, Plug Wires and installation instructions included
Intelligent overvoltage / overcurrent protection.
Improved fuel economy:
Switching from a points (or contact breaker) ignition system to an electronic ignition system can offer several advantages for motorcycles, including the potential for improved fuel efficiency. Here's why:
Consistent Timing: One of the main benefits of electronic ignition systems is that they provide more consistent and accurate timing than points systems. Precise ignition timing is crucial for fuel combustion efficiency. Points can wear, float, or get dirty over time, which can cause inaccurate timing. In contrast, electronic ignitions maintain consistent timing, ensuring that fuel burns more efficiently.
Maintenance: Points systems require regular maintenance, including cleaning, gap adjustments, and sometimes replacement due to wear. If not properly maintained, a points system's efficiency can degrade, leading to suboptimal fuel combustion. Electronic systems, on the other hand, are virtually maintenance-free, ensuring that they operate at peak efficiency for longer periods.
Dwell Control: In points systems, the "dwell" (or the time the coil charges) is fixed, based on the cam profile. Electronic ignitions can control the dwell electronically, ensuring the coil gets fully charged and can deliver a strong spark throughout the RPM range. A better spark can lead to more complete combustion.
Fewer Moving Parts: With fewer moving parts than points systems, electronic ignitions are less prone to mechanical wear and tear. This durability ensures that the system maintains its efficiency over time.
Cold Starts and Variable Conditions: Electronic ignitions can offer improved starting in cold conditions and can adapt better to a range of operating conditions, ensuring efficient fuel combustion under various circumstances.
However, while electronic ignition can improve fuel efficiency and overall engine performance, it's essential to note that the magnitude of the improvement can vary based on the motorcycle, its condition, how it's ridden, and other factors. In some cases, the difference in fuel efficiency might be minimal, while in others, it could be more noticeable. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Don;t cut the green one, you can use it as a tach signal for the timing light. Put a female connector on it and hide for if needed. Cheers.
I installed the module prior to watching this video and the LED was not coming on. I was at a loss and assumed it was broken. I watched your video and I found that I was on the wrong stroke. I can't thank you enough!
That's a great how-to video that's going to be one nice bike when it's done thank you for sharing with us
Really appreciate the vid, thank you!
Great kit, used these for years!
Tip: order the data recorder for it, especially if it's going on a customers bike. We had a customer that went WFO 3 minutes of recieving the bike, and beat it to death until the first service .
I installed mine and only get flashing lights. Put all the parts in. Checked the power wire to coil 12.3 volts. What could be wrong?
Good video, except when you started talking about where the wires were going, you said the blue went to rear -, and the Pink to front - on coil. Then when you connected the 2 wires you put them both on opposite terminals...Does this mean it doesn't matter which terminals the 2 wires connect to?
How do you add turn signals
Do you need the VOS hooked up to this system for the timing advance needed
I have an Ultima 53644 preset from factory. It won't static time to tdc. It works like you show here, but on the 2 dots advance marks. Ever seen that?
Great explanation & instructions! At first I was nervous to replace the Dual Fire ignition system with a Single Fire ignition on my 2001 Indian Scout, but after watching your video I am more confident to do the work myself correctly. I also thought you had to do dynamic timing which you said was not necessary. Does it matter if my bike is carbureted & not fuel injected?
We also performed this on a cabureted Sportster so it's fine if your bike also has a carburetor. Yep dynamic timing is fine if you want to go that extra step to eek every tiny bit of performance out of your motor but static timing gets the job done for regular road riding.
So I have a 2004 sportster, i bought the 2003 cam cover and this kit.
So its going to run like an '03
What else would be needed wiring to make this work?
I only get flashing lights on the module. I've checked the ohms on the coil, and it's good.
So what other connections are needed to make it run?
Where would I wire in net safety switch location on top of tranny 6 speed baker od ,before coil or after , what do you suggest bike has kicker and starter any information on this matter thank you for your time
Would you use the dame setting on a 883? My bike is idling erratically. Will idle normal then all of sudden drop. I know voes is advanced at idle. When the idle dropped i tested the voes snd found it not operating which is causing the low idle due to timing retarding. Im wanting this kit to just delete voes.
My 86 Sportster evo does NOT have a Timing Plug. Now what do I do?
What do you do with the seven pin wiring harness that plugs into the ignition module underneath your seat?
The Ultima ignition module is a self contained system so it replaces your OEM ignition module and pickup
if im installing the chopper wiring kit and the igination key is it necessary to install this ultima kit ? and if so what should i do if i have the sportster s that comes with 4 spark plugs ?
The S is a bit of a beast, they have a bunch of extra/different components.
Once everything is stripped off, our wiring harness (SKU 4077) will function the same on the S. As will the Ultima ignition (SKU 4026),
the difference is the dual plugs. You can't run your stock coil because they are .5 Ohm, and the Ultima requires 3 Ohm.
You will need either a 4 plug coil (SKU 4102), or two dual plug coils (SKU 4103) rated at 3 Ohms.
Hope this helps!
The only other thing to note, is you will want to set the static timing with the crank at 4 degrees after top dead center (rather than at TDC) compression stroke on the front cylinder.
I have a 1988 sportster xlh 883 and got this kit recently I have it to the solid line for TDC but as I turn the module that red light never goes out no matter where I rotate the module to.
Sounds like you are at TDC exhaust stroke, not compression. Use the wheel to rotate the engine 180 degrees so you see the TDC line come back around and try again. While you're at it verify all of your switches are at the correct settings. Let me know if the issue persists after trying those fixes.
@@ThrottleAddictionCoI did it but the red light blinks then goes out doesn’t light up no matter where I rotate the ignition module does the same on both solid lines
A question: how much does y'all's hardtail weigh compared to the stock swingarm on the '97-'08 sportster?
Not sure, we've meant to do a weight comparison but haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure we'll have that in a future video
Great thank you.
I like points better., they'll never leave you sitting along side of the road. I know because I've been riding for 50+ years and they're the only thing that hasn't broken on me.
Do you think electronic ignition improves the fuel efficiency?
Yes, switching from a points (or contact breaker) ignition system to an electronic ignition system can offer several advantages for motorcycles, including the potential for improved fuel efficiency. Here's why:
Consistent Timing: One of the main benefits of electronic ignition systems is that they provide more consistent and accurate timing than points systems. Precise ignition timing is crucial for fuel combustion efficiency. Points can wear, float, or get dirty over time, which can cause inaccurate timing. In contrast, electronic ignitions maintain consistent timing, ensuring that fuel burns more efficiently.
Maintenance: Points systems require regular maintenance, including cleaning, gap adjustments, and sometimes replacement due to wear. If not properly maintained, a points system's efficiency can degrade, leading to suboptimal fuel combustion. Electronic systems, on the other hand, are virtually maintenance-free, ensuring that they operate at peak efficiency for longer periods.
Dwell Control: In points systems, the "dwell" (or the time the coil charges) is fixed, based on the cam profile. Electronic ignitions can control the dwell electronically, ensuring the coil gets fully charged and can deliver a strong spark throughout the RPM range. A better spark can lead to more complete combustion.
Fewer Moving Parts: With fewer moving parts than points systems, electronic ignitions are less prone to mechanical wear and tear. This durability ensures that the system maintains its efficiency over time.
Cold Starts and Variable Conditions: Electronic ignitions can offer improved starting in cold conditions and can adapt better to a range of operating conditions, ensuring efficient fuel combustion under various circumstances.
However, while electronic ignition can improve fuel efficiency and overall engine performance, it's essential to note that the magnitude of the improvement can vary based on the motorcycle, its condition, how it's ridden, and other factors. In some cases, the difference in fuel efficiency might be minimal, while in others, it could be more noticeable.
Will this fit an 84 xlh1000?
Wanna know this aswell since he didn’t say ironhead
What is the difference with this brand and dynatek 2000i?
No difference. Dynatek makes the ignition for Ultima. Both ignitions are made in the USA.
Advance curves are different. Total advance is the same on both but the dyna advance comes in slower . This one is prone to detonation in the mid range if you set the dip switches the way it’s described in this video. I would not run one of these on curve 1 . If you do use this set it up for the least aggressive curve (curve 4)
👍😎👍.
Any chance it works on a 75 Ironhead ?
Unfortunately not, for Sportsters it'll only work on Evos from 1986-2003
Actually they’re wrong. Look up Tatro machine on
TH-cam (you’ll thank me later). He has several videos on this. You can call him and tell him what ironhead you’re putting it in and he will put a custom advance curve in it so it will work for an Ironhead.
@@bigrednick100 thank you!
Actually you skipped an important part when you said a “stripped down bike”. If your putting this on a kick only bike you have to reprogram it. From the factory it is programmed to have 3 dead revolutions before it puts out spark. They do this so the engine is spinning before you get spark otherwise you start is fighting very high compression if the fuel lights off when the engine is hardly moving. I have the software to reprogram it as these are made by Dynatek. If your bike is kick only you will never get it started since you can’t get it spinning fast enough for it to recognize to light the ignition up. I have video of how to program this Rap’s Garage Shop on TH-cam. I also have a video on how to install this that I think is a better way of doing it.
@@Rapsgaragethanks man- will check it out, I’ve been subbed to you for years bro 👍🏼
Do you make this kit for a 2005 Sportster ?
At this time we do not, we are hoping to increase our aftermarket wiring line to fit later model Sportsters soon though so stay tuned
@@ThrottleAddictionCo Dang, I got a bike here that needs parts. Id like to give my money to you guys but you’re making it tough
Useless product though, doesn't have a curve to suit my bike and the mythical "programming kit" isn't available anywhere.
anything made by ultima is absolute crap.
Good thing Ultima didn't make it